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Wednesday, October 31, 2012

OT: NBA thread—November2012

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, but with our own thread, we won’t detract from what the site is really about: um…baseball?

link is to the previous month’s thread. 


oh, and since i can make everyone see this every time they click on this thread, let us discuss the…unique hairstylings of the sixers projected frontcourt:

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   1. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:51 PM (#4290102)
Knicks-Nets cancelled.
   2. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: November 01, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4290155)
Let's discuss how to create threads with formatting that works.
   3. steagles Posted: November 01, 2012 at 01:54 PM (#4290168)
Let's discuss how to create threads with formatting that works.
yeah, my bad.


and over here, in honor of a new thread and jrue holiday's new contract, here's a link to a video of him trying to sell his own jersey at a sporting goods store. "how about a nice jodie meeks shirt?" "who?"
   4. rr Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4290188)
Our friend Pelton breaks down the Lakers in a free piece at BaskPro:

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2436

I agree with about 95% of it; it is a clear, common-sense piece. As I said to Hombre in an email, I am not sure how good the Lakers actually are, but I think they are a fairly simple team to run, and Brown is messing it up (although he of course is not the only problem). "Brown needs to keep two stars on the floor at all times" became a Lakerland meme about halfway through the 3rd quarter of the opener, and Pelton makes the point again here, WRT Bryant and Nash, and it also applies in some ways to Howard and Gasol. This seems obvious to everybody except Mike Brown, which is a bad sign for him and for the Lakers.
   5. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 07:25 PM (#4290453)
Pelton was also on the most recent Hang Up And Listen podcast, the best sports podcast there is, imo.

SVG hired by NBC to do college games.
   6. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4290455)
Oh, speaking of Mike Brown... ?@ramonashelburne tweets:

Brown explained need for "system offense" as for seven-game playoff series where, "They'll stop that one thing you're good at."

"We can say Steve, go play and roll. He did that in Phx & they won a lot of games, it was fun to watch, but where were they in May?"

   7. smileyy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:11 PM (#4290505)
Hm. Who do I trust to run an effective offense more: Mike Brown or Steve Nash?

"We can say LeBron, go pound the ball outside the 3-point line, then crash through the lane. He did that in Cle & they won a lot of games, it was fun to watch, but where were they in May?"
   8. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:54 PM (#4290535)
I'm all done trying to defend Brown. He's gotta go.
   9. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4290537)
Hasheem the dream sighting for OKC. First subs!

Ditto on hang up and listen.
   10. rr Posted: November 01, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4290539)
Here's the full quote, emphasis mine:

“We could do it now,” Brown said. “We could spread the floor and play pick-and-roll all the time. We can have different types of play calls that are pick-and-roll and Steve said we’ll score. And he said, but, A) It will wear him out and B) It will make him one dimensional so when we play the good teams, they’ll figure out that one thing we’re good at and they’ll take that away. Then when we’re in seven-game playoff series, for sure the later you get in the playoffs, they’ll be able to take us out of our offense because we’ll be so one dimensional. What we’re trying to do is we’re trying to eliminate that and try to be hard to guard because it’s a read-based offense.”


So, they are selling the idea that Nash wants this. My guess is that Nash is going along with it since he is that kind of guy, and, of course, there is no reason not to do both--run the PO and a lot of PnR, using more PO with a Kobe/Pau team and more PnR with a Nash/Howard pair, and doing both when all of them are on the floor.

Even with all the issues, the D has been a bigger problem than the O. They may need to try Earl Clark.

Nash is doubtful for tomorrow night's game against the Clippers.

No one has talked about, but the MEM/LAC game was pretty good, and there seems to be some real dislike between those teams.
   11. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4290542)
Also, it appears Maynor beat out Jackson for the backup PG spot. No shock there. More surprising Brooks waited to announce.
   12. andrewberg Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4290547)
Ended 1Q with Jackson, Maynor, Sefolosha, Martin, Collison. Microball lineup.
   13. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4290555)
My guess is that Nash is going along with it since he is that kind of guy

I got the impression that Nash is being a good company man in his quotes, though I'm not privy, obviously. The D is definitely a bigger concern.

Troy Murphy is about to be a Mav. Not sure who's out - Jones, I'd guess.
   14. Famous Original Joe C Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4290558)
Ended 1Q with Jackson, Maynor, Sefolosha, Martin, Collison. Microball lineup.


Whoa! Sefolosha as a notional big.
   15. Tripon Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:56 PM (#4290596)
The reality is that Mike Brown is a company solider. The real problem is that Jim Buss is now running the team and he has no freaking idea what he is doing.
   16. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: November 01, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4290619)
Stephen Jackson's proto-mohawk/headband combo is pretty awesome.
   17. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: November 01, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4290620)
Nash has never been anything other than a good company man. Not once can I recall him lighting up a teammate on the court or ripping him to the press.
   18. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 01, 2012 at 11:38 PM (#4290623)
D-League draft is tomorrow. If you're a lunatic, copious pre-draft data now available (Renardo Sidney sighting! Glen Rice Jr!). JaJuan Johnson considered the likely #1 pick.
   19. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 01, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4290626)
So, uh...@flip_saunders is on twitter and his typing isn't the best, but his tweets have been pretty fun so far.
   20. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: November 02, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4290640)
Wow, just like that, Tony Parker.
   21. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 02, 2012 at 12:05 AM (#4290642)
Tony Parker, wow. 2 nights in a row.
   22. rr Posted: November 02, 2012 at 12:49 AM (#4290660)
Not a great first couple of nights for the Harden trade from an OKC perspective (although Sefolosha and Martin more or less did OK, they were a very pedestrian 6/17).

   23. cmd600 Posted: November 02, 2012 at 01:49 AM (#4290678)
"We can say LeBron, go pound the ball outside the 3-point line, then crash through the lane. He did that in Cle & they won a lot of games, it was fun to watch, but where were they in May?"


Brown gets the blame for all the crap that happened in Cleveland and deserves next to none of it. He was completely undermined by the higherups (read: Gilbert) whose only plan was to placate Lebron, and who then traded for an old Shaq and Jamison, and wondered what happened to the team defense. I haven't seen the Lakers yet this year, so I'm not sure how much is Brown's fault, but #15 sounds about right.
   24. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 02, 2012 at 02:14 AM (#4290681)
Westbrook on the final play.
   25. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:26 AM (#4290782)
I agree with a lot of #23. Brown's run in Cleveland I thought was very good, with the pieces he had. But that doesn't mean he's the right coach for the Lakers.
   26. rr Posted: November 02, 2012 at 11:36 AM (#4290824)
I have stayed mostly agnostic on Brown; 41-25 and a second-round exit was as good as could be expected last year. He caught some breaks with health and Pythag, but results are results. But there are issues with the guy. He seems, based on stuff he says and on many aspects of how he runs things, to be more cut out to be an assistant than a head guy.

As to #15, Brown is Buss' guy, and Buss does have a lot of input into personnel. But I don't think it was Buss who wanted the PO and I don't think it was Buss who put Kobe, Howard and Gasol back in after the Portland game was gone, and I don't think Buss has set up the the unstable and unproductive rotations that we have seen in the first two games and also saw last year. In fairness, Nash missed most of the second game, but as Pelton pointed out, Brown is making some strange decisions about player usage that are already visible even to casual obervers. The Lakers have a lousy bench, so Brown doesn't have much to work with there, but I think he could do better by stabilizing some roles and mixing and matching more simply.

Brown is a "preparation" guy; that was one theme form his awesome interview. He seems to do well at things when he can put in a lot of work, but he seems less comfortable in-game, preocessing stuff in real time.
   27. JJ1986 Posted: November 02, 2012 at 02:09 PM (#4290975)
D-League draft is tomorrow. If you're a lunatic, copious pre-draft data now available (Renardo Sidney sighting! Glen Rice Jr!). JaJuan Johnson considered the likely #1 pick.


What is the eligibility for this? I saw that Henry Sims and Oscar Bellfield were assigned to a team because they were in Knicks camp, but other players who were in camps are in the draft pool.
   28. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 02, 2012 at 02:16 PM (#4290984)
Teams can claim up to three players who were cut from their affiliate's camps (as Sims and Bellfield were) - with the caveat that, if the guy played in the D-League the year before, the old team gets first dibs. If not claimed, into the pool with you.
(The Canton Charge recently put out a nice .pdf detailing how these and related processes work).
   29. Jimmy P Posted: November 02, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4291016)
JaJuan Johnson considered the likely #1 pick.

Woohoo!

I've been having a discussion with a few of my friends and they think JJ should go to Europe right now. I think he should stay in the D-League, at least for this season. He's still drawing off his rookie contract, so the money isn't an issue right now. And I think the exposure and closeness to the NBA teams, not to mention not being locked into a contract, make it much more likely he gets back to the NBA. I do think if he doesn't get back this year, he should get that money in Europe.
   30. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 02, 2012 at 03:09 PM (#4291043)
I agree with your reasoning. Also, it doesn't hurt that he'll play in Ft. Wayne.
   31. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 02, 2012 at 05:05 PM (#4291139)
May go easy on my Wade hatred at least for a little bit:
"I just felt that (there were) bigger things to be concerned about than us being here to play a basketball game," Wade said after the Heat's shootaround Friday at Madison Square Garden. "Obviously, sports ... takes people's minds away from things, but I think there are bigger things that need to be done here in this city."...Wade plans to make a donation to Sandy's relief efforts, according to ESPN's Rachel Nichols. USA Today reports that Wade will donate his check from Friday's game. Per game, he makes $209,536.59.
   32. andrewberg Posted: November 02, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4291150)
I have no illusions about the double standards for major athletes, and I think it is dumb when we treat them like heroes just because they are good at sports. Even so, NJ's excerpt is not the first time Lebron and Wade have done really impressive things, and they seem to be more engaged than MJ (republicans buy sneakers too) ever was. I do not care about them supporting political candidates- in fact, I'm glad they do not-, but the emphasis Lebron has put on giving kids opportunities and encouraging kids to take advantage of them, the support for Trayvon when the wore those hoodies last year, and this incident all indicate that they are socially aware and they care. Even if it's just better PR and image management, it sends a good message and I appreciate it.
   33. Jimmy P Posted: November 02, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4291231)
Eric Gordon is now saying he'll be back in 4-6 weeks. At least one doctor that he's visited has recommended microfracture surgery. Gordon's been against it, and is doing other treatments from other doctors.

Good thing Stern made the Hornets take the "better" deal of Gordon and the 10th pick in the draft.
   34. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4291256)
Milwaukee has some interesting pieces.

Jennings and Ellis in the back court.
Gooden looked surprisingly non-toasty last year, and Ilyasova played well. Dalembert I think fits a need well.
Dunleavy had a really good year last year. They have some interesting young 3/4 players in Harris, Henson, and Udoh.

I think Skiles is a good coach, too. I think this team can win 45 games.
   35. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:10 PM (#4291269)
Jason Terry, your jock is on the floor.
   36. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:17 PM (#4291272)
Marquis Daniels sucks. I'm sure Boston already knew that.
   37. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:21 PM (#4291275)
I don't think those Bucks pieces fit together. And also don't fit on a Skiles team or system.


Bulls are spanking the Cavs. Up 21 early in 2nd quarter.
   38. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:23 PM (#4291277)
Holy crap. Magic up huge at the half over the Nugs.
   39. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:24 PM (#4291278)
Bucks are up 42-24 late in the 2nd quarter. Bucks are playing inspired defense.
   40. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:41 PM (#4291286)
According to the Bucks announcers, the Celtics are a "big post-up team. Big."
   41. steagles Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4291287)
Holy crap. Magic up huge at the half over the Nugs.
denver's closed the gap a bit in the 3rd quarter, but this seems like more fuel for the "nuggets are not very good" fire.
   42. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4291288)
I don't think those Bucks pieces fit together. And also don't fit on a Skiles team or system.


I dunno, they have a ton of length and depth 3-5. That fits very well in making up for their lack of backcourt height. We'll see though.
   43. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:46 PM (#4291290)
denver's closed the gap a bit in the 3rd quarter, but this seems like more fuel for the "nuggets are not very good" fire.


Maybe. But the Celtics are down 16 at the half to Milwaukee in their home opener. Miami is down 16 to the Knicks.
   44. steagles Posted: November 02, 2012 at 08:47 PM (#4291291)
Maybe. But the Celtics are down 16 at the half to Milwaukee in their home opener. Miami is down 16 to the Knicks.
more fuel for the "celtics are not very good" and the "heat don't care about the regular season" fires.
   45. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:03 PM (#4291299)
The officials are strongly in Boston's corner, and they're still getting their ass whipped.
   46. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:06 PM (#4291300)
The only Celtics who has any interest in playing in the paint consistently is Sullinger. I realize their shooting has been cold, but this is a really embarrassing performance.
   47. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:17 PM (#4291308)
Anthony Davis is being tested for a concussion and is out for the rest of the game against the Jazz.
   48. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4291312)
Tobias Harris is playing a big time game for the Bucks.
   49. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:33 PM (#4291317)
I need to get myself a Larry Sanders jersey. This dude is awesome. Larry Sanders stats from last year:

Stats per 36 minutes: 3.5 OREB, 1.8 STL, 4.3 BLK

Those are like prime David Robinson numbers. Nevermind the fact it was in like 600 minutes.
   50. Lassus Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:47 PM (#4291327)
Is Steve Novak 37 or something? He looks old.
   51. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4291329)
Indiana lost to Charlotte. That's... not good.
   52. Spivey Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4291336)
James Harden has 42 points on 14-19 shooting! Even crazier is that Omar Asik has 19 rebounds and 0 points!
   53. smileyy Posted: November 02, 2012 at 09:59 PM (#4291344)
Soo...if James Harden turns out to be a top-5 NBA player...

Edit: But only 15/17 from the FT line. Presti is probably still insisting that it was a good idea, because Harden isn't a 50/40/90 guy
   54. King Mekong Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4291349)
Got league pass this year. My ceiling for the rockets has gone way up after these first two games. Jeez. Asik is an ok pnr big and harden is unreal. I never knew Lin was such a good rebounder. Nearly had a triple double tonight. Good game to watch.
   55. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:08 PM (#4291351)
I never knew Lin was such a good rebounder.

That was one of the main points Hollinger has made in his Lin analysis. He contributes in so many places in the box score that it gives him room to regress and still be a net positive. After 2 games, I think it's going to be interesting to see how McHale manages the minutes. The Rockets bigs, outside of Asik, haven't offered much defensively thus far and their guards, outside of Lin and Harden, have no playmaking ability. Lin, Asik, and Harden haven't been asked to carry heavy minute loads to this point of their careers, but for this team to be successful they're going to have to do just that.
   56. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:21 PM (#4291363)
Every Paul Millsap 3 is with less than a minute left in a tight game.
   57. steagles Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:22 PM (#4291364)
Even crazier is that Omar Asik has 19 rebounds and 0 points!
how is it possible to have 9 offensive rebounds and not score a single point?

according to play index, that's happened 3 times since 1986. dennis rodman did it twice, and dasagna diop did it once.

dennis rodman is actually a very interesting name to come up in a discussion about omer asik.
   58. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:23 PM (#4291366)
Keeping Al Jefferson in to play defense in a tie game with 7 seconds left is just...

And as good as Foye has been, I hate the signing if it relegates Burks to the bench.
   59. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:24 PM (#4291368)
I've been comparing Asik to a bigger Ben Wallace with worse hands / floor vision - still do.
   60. andrewberg Posted: November 02, 2012 at 11:12 PM (#4291415)
Wolves overcome terrible shooting to beat sacto. Stiemsma shut down boogie (yeah), Barea did enough on offense, and we only need about 43 more.
   61. andrewberg Posted: November 02, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4291418)
It's interesting that Asik comps to guys way smaller than him.
   62. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 02, 2012 at 11:50 PM (#4291434)
I think Mike Brown's time in Los Angeles is juuuuuuuuuuuuuust about up. If that's the Princeton offense, then I'm King of all Londinium and wear a shiny hat.
   63. steagles Posted: November 03, 2012 at 12:27 AM (#4291444)
today in terrible sixers blogging, we visit libertyballers:

We were all jubilant when the Sixers traded for Andrew Bynum this offseason, but it's been three months since they got him and he hasn't done anything for this team. His knees are glassier than Mr. White's crystal and he used to be a Laker so that should tell you all you need to know about him. But still, I was eagerly anticipating his debut whenever it happened.

Then the Sixers went out and proved they don't need him. They beat Andre Iguodala (bum) and Andre Miller (should of kept) and the Denver Nuggets, sending a message to the entire NBA that even if Bynum never plays a minute here, they're a championship contender. In fact, I think they're a better team without him.

Spencer Hawes is definitely good enough to start for the Sixers and if he keeps playing like he did last night, he should make the All-Star Game. When you have an opportunity to start and All-Star, you do it. Plus he's white and I always like rooting for white people better anyway.

They're 100% without Bynum and haven't won a single game with him yet so I think my point is proven.

So Andrew, please stay in your dumb suit on the sidelines. We don't want you here. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO.



now, i'm sure there's a joke in here somewhere, but wherever it is, it's not a good one.
   64. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 03, 2012 at 12:34 AM (#4291449)
Okay, now it's just ####### embarrassing. This isn't the Princeton offense, it's NO OFFENSE AT ALL. Throw in the 82 points allowed after 3 quarters...

Someone's head needs to be on a pike.
   65. andrewberg Posted: November 03, 2012 at 12:58 AM (#4291457)
So, Phil, we've written a check. There's no number on it, but we trust that you're a reasonable guy. Plus, you like Nash, right? Anyway, your giant chair will be ready for the next home game.
   66. Lassus Posted: November 03, 2012 at 01:21 AM (#4291462)
Was I getting a contact high in a bar, or did I see Rasheed Wallace playing basketball?
   67. Yardape Posted: November 03, 2012 at 03:05 AM (#4291476)
Okay, now it's just ####### embarrassing. This isn't the Princeton offense, it's NO OFFENSE AT ALL. Throw in the 82 points allowed after 3 quarters...


I thought it kind of looked like his Cleveland offense. Give the ball to Kobe and hope he can do something miraculous...
   68. Benji Posted: November 03, 2012 at 03:25 AM (#4291480)
If only 10-12 of us care about the NBA, then I'm sure I am the only Sacramento Kings fan primate. We're 0-2, losing to Chicago without Rose and Minnesota without Love and Rubio. The defense looks better, and I like Brooks/Thomas at PG, but DeMarcus Cousins drives me insane. I have never, in 40+ years of watching the NBA, seen a player who makes worse decisions and forced shots in the last 5 minutes. Throw in that perpetual crying face and he makes me hope that he forces a trade. He's the 21st century Derrick Coleman.
   69. smileyy Posted: November 03, 2012 at 04:48 AM (#4291483)
I'd rather have DeMarcus Cousins than Derrick Coleman, but that probably says more for my distaste of Derrick Coleman than anything else. And pretty much every other forward that's come out of Syracuse. Except Hakim Warrick. Hakim Warrick is ok. Not very good, but ok.
   70. JC in DC Posted: November 03, 2012 at 05:52 AM (#4291489)
Kobe Bryant might be a dick, but he's become one of my favorite people in sports. I love the guy. His quote from last night's game (about the Clips 20 points on 9 offensive rebounds, "It's mathematically ridiculous") is a case in point. I love the guy.
   71. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: November 03, 2012 at 08:46 AM (#4291512)
Kobe's late career willingness to junk his Jordanesqe cliche answers and just be his brutal self has been fun, especially when he's unhappy.

It's pretty clear to me that either the new offense is way too hard for these guys, or they've tuned Brown out after two games. On Facebook, I actually have Lakers fan friends actively rooting for 0-10 just so they'll fire Brown.
   72. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 03, 2012 at 08:48 AM (#4291514)
Cousins is better than Coleman (in particular from a +/- perspective)... but there are parallels.
   73. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:17 AM (#4291520)
Kobe's late career willingness to junk his Jordanesqe cliche answers and just be his brutal self has been fun, especially when he's unhappy.

This. I love Kobe interviews as much as I love Cashman interviews at this point.

I looked at LAL schedule and I'd expect them to win at least 5 of the next 7.
   74. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:37 AM (#4291531)
If you're actually depending on DeMarcus Cousins for anything important, you're setting yourself up for inevitable disappointment. He's in the Joe Barry Carroll/Derrick Coleman line.
   75. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:40 AM (#4291535)
What could have been for Cuban:
Sources close to both players said Howard and Paul settled on the Dallas Mavericks as an ideal destination, knowing owner Mark Cuban had the means to clear salary-cap space for them. The Mavericks explored trades for both players, but didn’t have attractive enough assets to make a deal. And while Howard and Paul could have become unrestricted free agents in the summer of 2012 by opting out of their contracts, neither exhibited the patience to make such a plan feasible.

Paul was all in for joining the Mavericks as a free agent in 2012, but he wanted a commitment Howard also had interest, sources said. Howard, however, remained indecisive about his future in Orlando and wasn’t ready to commit to Paul. Frustrated, Paul eventually grew tired of waiting on Howard, gave up on the Dallas plan and asked the Hornets for a trade.
   76. andrewberg Posted: November 03, 2012 at 11:05 AM (#4291578)
I think cousins is the best thing going for the kings. Their perimeter players are redundant and don't match their interior guys, plus they don't try on defense.
   77. Booey Posted: November 03, 2012 at 12:55 PM (#4291637)
And as good as Foye has been, I hate the signing if it relegates Burks to the bench.


DeMarre Carrol and Jamaal Tinsley. Why the hell are they playing 15-20 minutes a game while Burks and Evans are riding the pine? Foye should be the backup PG over Tinsley, and Burks should take Foye's minutes as the backup SG. Evans should take Carrol's 15 minutes as the backup SF. Carrol and Tinsley should be the backups to the backups who only play during garbage time or in case of injuries.

Corbin seems to have inherited Sloan's obsession with scrappy veterans that don't actually have much ability (Jarron Collins, Keith McCloud) over raw youngsters with much more upside. Even though he plays hard and seems like a nice guy, I actually wish we didn't have Carrol; he's the type of player that will always get way more minutes than his numbers say he deserves because coaches love the heart and the attitude and announcers always talk about how he does all the hustle plays that don't show up in the stat sheets. That's great and all, but he doesn't do anything that actually DOES show up in the stat sheets, and that's even more important. This isn't some junior rec league team where you play the kids who try the hardest. This is the NBA; you should play the guys that give you the best chance to win. And DeMarre Carrol over Alec Burks is just silly.
   78. tshipman Posted: November 03, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4291894)
So, Phil, we've written a check. There's no number on it, but we trust that you're a reasonable guy. Plus, you like Nash, right? Anyway, your giant chair will be ready for the next home game.


Mike Brown has been a complete fiasco.
   79. Famous Original Joe C Posted: November 03, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4291957)
No one should be saying anyone is anything for 20-30 games. Lakers, Celtics, Nuggets, you name it.
   80. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: November 03, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4291970)
Nash out for at least a week with a "small non-displaced fracture in the head of his left fibula."

Lakers trainers, your move.
   81. Into the Void Posted: November 03, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4291997)
I feel awful for Brandon Rush. Not that they had much of a chance for the #8 seed, but the Warriors season is already dealt a severe blow the second game in.
   82. steagles Posted: November 03, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4292019)
is it too early in the season to point out that, if the playoffs started today, miami wouldn't be in them to defend their title?
   83. King Mekong Posted: November 03, 2012 at 06:32 PM (#4292037)
Yes
   84. madvillain Posted: November 03, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4292047)
Nash out for at least a week with a "small non-displaced fracture in the head of his left fibula."

Lakers trainers, your move.


Good luck with that one. Seems like the sort of injury that tends to linger, especially when you're on the wrong side of 35.

I'm shocked at how efficient Chicago's offense was last night. Maybe Rip Hamilton is the key.
   85. madvillain Posted: November 03, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4292050)
today in terrible sixers blogging, we visit libertyballers:


The non MLB SBN blogs are hit or miss. They rushed to fill the spots. I can't stand BlogaBull's overall tone or writing quality and the analysis isn't anything I can't get elsewhere. You might enjoy the RealGM Sixers forum, not a great signal to noise ratio, but at least there is a signal.
   86. steagles Posted: November 03, 2012 at 08:35 PM (#4292141)
houston looks really, really good. really, really, really good.

and i haven't even seen terrance jones yet.
   87. steagles Posted: November 03, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4292153)
houston looks really, really good. really, really, really good.

and i haven't even seen terrance jones yet.
and the great thing about watching them is that their three best players, j
ames harden, jeremy lin, and omer asik are all hungry. asik was tossed aside by chicago, lin was thrown out the door in new york, and this is harden's first year as a starter in the NBA. they all have something to prove.

and they're also really unique players. asik is probably the best pure rebounder/shot blocker in the NBA. and then harden is a potential 50/40/90 guy. and lin is asian.

and then, the supporting cast has a lot of fun players, too. cole aldrich is finally getting some playing time. chandler parsons and patrick patterson and marcus morris and tony douglas are interesting. they have royce white and terrence jones coming in as rookies.

it's just a really fun team.
   88. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:18 PM (#4292177)
Maybe Rip Hamilton is the key

you better hope not - it's not like he'll be there all season.
   89. smileyy Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:35 PM (#4292204)
[82] What I find remarkable is how quickly teams passed Miami on the schadenfreude scale. But I'm really enjoying LA and OKC's mistakes so far. Though, thus far today, Harden has slipped out of his F-You gear.
   90. HOLLA(R) Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4292215)
The non MLB SBN blogs are hit or miss.


Their design doesn't have you actively avoiding them? I'm impressed that anyone makes it to the content.
   91. steagles Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4292219)
Their design doesn't have you actively avoiding them? I'm impressed that anyone makes it to the content.
google reader ftw
   92. Spivey Posted: November 03, 2012 at 09:58 PM (#4292220)
google reader ftw


Given that snippet you posted from libertyballers, I don't think "for the win" is an appropriate description.
   93. Tripon Posted: November 03, 2012 at 10:10 PM (#4292235)
If I was SB Nation/Vox Media, I'd probably fire/banned the person who wrote that blog post. There's no business for overt racism, even as a 'joke' in journalism.
   94. baudib Posted: November 03, 2012 at 11:30 PM (#4292314)
Thanks to Hurricane Sandy, my tickets for the game tonight at Barclays Center happened to be the first official pro sports game hosted by a Brooklyn team since 1958.

Impressions:
Arena is fine. I sat in the 222 section. Seating is a big cozy. If you're in the middle of the row, getting to the aisle is rough. View is fine, I could almost make out Beyonce at floor level.

The Nets: A bunch of average guys and Deron Williams, whatever he is. A decent team would have beat them tonight. The Nets left the corner 3 wide open on many occasions, and there were some awful possessions where they not only gave up an uncontested 3, they got beat 2 on 1 for the rebound.

Toronto shot the lights out in the first and scored 35. From a fantasy basketball perspective, I am guessing that Kyle Lowry could have a monster year on this team. The Nets got back into the game thanks to their second unit. C.J. Watson was terrific and Marshon Brooks gave them a spark. The Raptors do not exactly have an impressive frontcourt, so the piss poor games by Humphries and Reggie Evans was disappointing.

Lopez is a terrific offensive player, but is basically nonexistent on D. It seemed like Joe Johnson was the most useless player on the court for Brooklyn. Avery Johnson went with C.J. Watson and Deron on the floor at the same time quite a bit, and they looked good. With that configuration, Williams played something of a Kobe Bryant role with Watson playing PG.
   95. baudib Posted: November 03, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4292317)
The fans seemed confused about whether they wanted to chant "LET'S GO NETS" a la "LET'S GO METS" or "LET'S GO BROOKLYN" with the "LET'S GO RANGERS" cadence. With about a minute left, it seemed that they decided the slow, "BROOOOOOK-LYNN, BROOOOOOK-LYNN"" chant was best.

   96. Into the Void Posted: November 04, 2012 at 03:36 AM (#4292471)
The Warriors (without their starting center) took care of the Clippers tonight, whose entire offense still seems to be a high pick and roll for Chris Paul. I get it running it often, but 90% of the time seems a bit much. Even the Warriors woeful defense eventually figured out how to force him to go left.
   97. steagles Posted: November 04, 2012 at 10:23 AM (#4292517)
for today's look at terrible sixers blogging, we visit philadunkia:

Joshua Harris and his crew should just sell this team right now. The recent news of the Jrue Holiday extension and the team picking up Evan Turner’s 4th year option becoming a reality, a feeling of darkness should have begun creeping out like zombies at the Eastern State Penitentary.

This team has absolutely no idea what they are doing and the front office is setting up the fans of the 76ers for many seasons of a Gus Frerotte-like series of head banging concussions without help in sight. Further proof of that is the recent news of the 7-6 hiring analytical expert Aaron Barzilai. Coincidentally, this comes after Dileo and DC spent the offseason lighting the team’s future championship equity on fire and locking the team into a no win salary cap situation.
   98. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 04, 2012 at 01:29 PM (#4292613)
With about a minute left, it seemed that they decided the slow, "BROOOOOOK-LYNN, BROOOOOOK-LYNN"" chant was best.


You mean to the tune of "DAAAAAAAAARYYYLLLLLL"? Isn't that supposed to be for MOCKING the team in question?
   99. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: November 04, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4292615)
asik was tossed aside by chicago

That would be a great narrative to create if you were say a Reggie Miller quality level broadcaster or something. Or if it were true.

---

Last night's Bulls game (and offense) is the counter point to the Cleveland game Friday. Just awfulness - Boozer, Rip and Hinrich were 4 for 26 and all were benched for the whole 4th quarter (this is pretty much word for word a KC Johnson tweet). On the positive side, Nate Robinson has been fantastic. He's playing totally in control, he's running the offense relatively smoothly (compared to Hinrich, he Steve f'in Nash), and has been incredibly efficient.
   100. steagles Posted: November 04, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4292629)
That would be a great narrative to create if you were say a Reggie Miller quality level broadcaster or something. Or if it were true.
yeah, there were cap considerations, but chicago would have had two years to prepare for them.

the sixers tipped off at noon, and so far, new york is just killing it from beyond the arc. they scored 57 in the first half, and are up 13 at the half.

also, just to go a little george carlin, that photographer who took out jason ricahrdson in the first quarter should be executed in the middle of the floor during halftime. it's just unacceptable for a player to be injured like that.
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