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Friday, September 27, 2013

OT: NBC.news: Valve isn’t making one gaming console, but multiple ‘Steam machines’

Valve therefore left open the possibility that whatever Steam Machines eventually make it to market next year could either be first- or third-party hardware. The company is putting out invitations for 300 Steam users to participate in a beta test they must qualify for by completing an “eligibility quest” that involves familiarizing themselves with Steam’s current features.

The other gaming thread died. Here’s a new one for those interested. I figured Steam looking for Beta Testers made for a good lead-in.

Happy Gaming!

Poster Nutbag Posted: September 27, 2013 at 05:34 PM | 841 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   301. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: December 20, 2013 at 10:02 AM (#4621550)
Flop
   302. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 20, 2013 at 10:10 AM (#4621552)
Everyone should post their Steam handles so we can find each other. And who knows, maybe some secret Santa will grant you something on your wishlist?
   303. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: December 20, 2013 at 10:30 AM (#4621559)
I'm Kaiserbrown on Steam. I won't be around much for the next week, though. Christmas and all. And you'll see me on Football Manager a lot. God that game is addictive.
   304. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM (#4621685)
Great idea YR! Like our own Secret Santa thing
   305. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: December 20, 2013 at 02:34 PM (#4621782)
DSzymborski
   306. Moe Greene Posted: December 20, 2013 at 02:50 PM (#4621802)
I'm 'nbread_audiosurf' on steam, although I don't really get to play nearly as much as I'd like. I'm a game collector more than a player.

BTW, anyone interested in a free Crusader Kings 2 Steam code? If memory serves, I think I may have codes for a few of the DLC's as well.
   307. Greg K Posted: December 20, 2013 at 02:55 PM (#4621805)
I posted it earlier, but mine is n0257203 in case anyone is wondering who just added them.
   308. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 20, 2013 at 03:07 PM (#4621811)
As noted above, I can be found under pstrnubag44.

Greg - an issue has arisen that has me on the road right now but I'll be in at around 7:30-8:00pm EST, right around the end of that timeframe from earlier. My apologies, as it was entirely unavoidable and sudden. I am still game at that, or any other time though. Again, my apologies for the last minute inconvenience.
   309. Greg K Posted: December 20, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4621824)
No worries, I'm in the process of setting a game up now (because I'm slightly bored and because I have no idea how to do so, so I figured I'd get a head start)...it seems quite flexible so there's no rush.

So far I've got as far as creating a game entitled "BTF Game". I'm having trouble inviting people to it, so anyone interested perhaps search for that game on the multiplayer robot site and see if we can go from there.



EDIT: You may have a typo there, I believe your tag is "pstrnutbag44"
   310. Greg K Posted: December 20, 2013 at 03:23 PM (#4621827)
This link may or may not be a link to join the game. If I understand it correctly the link only works once per generation. So if someone other than Mr. Putbag wants in, raise your hand and I'll generate a new link

[also, let me know if it actually works if you do try it]

The link in full is:

http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/8720?token=22c7caab-3aa9-4554-82f1-4c967d14c54f
   311. zack Posted: December 20, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4621837)
Sent friend requests to a bunch if you get some from an unknown, should be pretty obvious.
   312. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: December 20, 2013 at 03:38 PM (#4621842)
I posted it earlier, but mine is n0257203 in case anyone is wondering who just added them.

What am I supposed to call you in-game? Random characters?
   313. Greg K Posted: December 20, 2013 at 03:47 PM (#4621850)
What am I supposed to call you in-game? Random characters?

Just another product of me not knowing what the hell I'm doing when it comes to computers.

I somehow managed to mangle my screen name into my university e-mail address (which is just a bunch of numbers) by accident. My username (which I use to log-in) is my traditional namer tag. I figured something called a USERNAME would be the name other users saw when I was online...but apparently not. Being stupid is an incredible burden to bare.

edit: well that was easy...I just changed it. Just to confuse you all, my tag is now "mryarl"
   314. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 20, 2013 at 04:24 PM (#4621867)
I am JimmyTheShovel (which is a game reference in itself though probably not one that many people would get). I decided to splurge and bought Borderlands 2, will check it out tonight.
   315. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 20, 2013 at 04:38 PM (#4621873)
309 is correct. Driving and posting on here is dangerous, improper & you spell #### wrong!


pstrnutbag44 is the correct spelling. Thanks Greg!
   316. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 20, 2013 at 04:39 PM (#4621875)
A nice mix of games available on this Day 2 of the glorious Steam Winter Sale. Anyone here have any experience with "Chivalry: Medieval Warfare"? Multiplayer first-person (or third-person) hack-n-slash seems like an interesting option for a mere six bucks and change. Naturally I'll say you just couldn't go wrong picking up Shogun: Total War 2 for only $7.50, a game that will pretty much ruin your enjoyment of half-assed RTS combat. And of course there are FPS games a-plenty for all, including the very cool open-world Far Cry 3 and the CPU-hogging Crysis 2, each for a mere $7.50.

Plus some other games that look pretty cool though I know nothing about them, like Nether and Project Zomboid.

Let's get something going tonight! Who's got what it takes to Party With Nixon?
   317. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 20, 2013 at 05:11 PM (#4621894)
So I don't have the slightest idea what I'm getting into with Borderlands 2. Is it going to be a problem that I'll be starting out fresh while you guys have characters that you've been playing for a while and leveling up?
   318. The Good Face Posted: December 20, 2013 at 05:18 PM (#4621901)
Anyone here have any experience with "Chivalry: Medieval Warfare"? Multiplayer first-person (or third-person) hack-n-slash seems like an interesting option for a mere six bucks and change.


Mount & Blade; Warband is better, and there's an insane amount of mods and content that you can download for it. Just an amazing game.

So I don't have the slightest idea what I'm getting into with Borderlands 2. Is it going to be a problem that I'll be starting out fresh while you guys have characters that you've been playing for a while and leveling up?


One of the nice things about BL2 is that if you group up with higher level characters, you'll get full XP for their kills, and will catch up to them in levels very quickly.
   319. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 20, 2013 at 05:31 PM (#4621914)
Jim - I just started BL2 recently myself. It's super easy to pick up, even if you don't play those types of games very often. It's also very easy to make a new character and start at the beginning and I think that would be best if we got a nice little BTF campaign going.
   320. Moe Greene Posted: December 20, 2013 at 05:52 PM (#4621920)
I'd love to start playing BL2.

Unfortunately, first I need to upgrade my laptop to something that has better than Intel HD graphics.
   321. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 20, 2013 at 06:33 PM (#4621934)
I probably should have installed BL2 on XP instead of Win7 since I only have 2 gigs of RAM, I'll see how it performs though and make the switch if necessary. Hopefully my girlfriend will decide that my suggestion of 4 gigs of RAM was a good Xmas gift idea and I'll be upgraded in a few days.
   322. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: December 20, 2013 at 06:45 PM (#4621938)
Here are my Christmastime recommended builds, $600 and $1000.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($204.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ TigerDirect)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $607.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-20 17:41 EST-0500)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-20 17:44 EST-0500)
   323. Greg K Posted: December 20, 2013 at 06:53 PM (#4621942)
Just because it's changed my life for the better in countless ways, I made a personal vow to thank Dan whenever it was even vaguely on topic to do so...

Thanks again for the help with the build Dan!
   324. madvillain Posted: December 20, 2013 at 07:13 PM (#4621950)
That source 210 case is great for the price used it in a couple of recent builds. I just built a high end matching for a client using the fractal design r4. Hands down nicest case I have seen for a mid tower,although IMO its still a bit too big. The sound damping on it is amazing they have foam inserts on every surface. Love the classic Scandinavian minimalist style as well.
   325. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 20, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4621952)
So I don't have the slightest idea what I'm getting into with Borderlands 2. Is it going to be a problem that I'll be starting out fresh while you guys have characters that you've been playing for a while and leveling up?


You'll do fine as long as you keep Poster Nutbag *in front* of you.
   326. Greg K Posted: December 20, 2013 at 07:50 PM (#4621955)
Question for anyone that might know. Is Pitboss a better method of playing Civ V than giant robot?

Giant Robot sounds like you have to quit and restart Civ V for every turn, which sounds kind of annoying if I'm understanding it right.
   327. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 20, 2013 at 11:01 PM (#4622008)
Whew! Just got back in.....I have yet to try pitboss, but am under the understanding that the "host" must leave Civ running at all times...
   328. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 20, 2013 at 11:49 PM (#4622022)
So I guess I like Borderlands 2 since I just played it for four hours straight. YR and I played for a little while and I believe I avoided shooting him in the ass though he did have to revive me a bajillion times at first. I'm getting better though, I realized I'm having to unlearn habits from other games since my primary FPS experience on the PC lately has been Unreal Tournament and in that you're jumping a lot to avoid fire (and it's easy to aim while jumping) and generally fighting in the open with little disregard for how exposed you are....two things that are generally uneffective in BL2. Tons of fun though and it will be great if we can get 4 BTFers going in a game sometime. Weekends are difficult for me to plan specific times but since my girlfriend works nights I have pretty much an open schedule on any weeknight to play. I also need to go get a headset tomorrow since having to type things out is annoying.
   329. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: December 20, 2013 at 11:53 PM (#4622023)
Man, Civ V multiplayer is a horrible mess no matter how you slice it.
   330. Greg K Posted: December 21, 2013 at 12:01 AM (#4622025)
Man, Civ V multiplayer is a horrible mess no matter how you slice it.

Actually the one way I've played has worked out great! A friend comes over with his laptop and we do it local area style. Obviously not applicable for a lot of people, but there's at least one way!
   331. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: December 21, 2013 at 12:18 AM (#4622030)
Yes, local area is the only way to do it and have it do something that resembles working, in my experience.
   332. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 21, 2013 at 12:45 AM (#4622034)
Funny you mention it Jim....I was almost identically the same way, even down to the majority of my experience prior to my recent re-hash into FPS in the PC had been in Unreal Tournament. YR is a great cat to cut your teeth with (or on, if that hiney is involved), great team player.
   333. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: December 21, 2013 at 01:52 AM (#4622044)
Just because it's changed my life for the better in countless ways, I made a personal vow to thank Dan whenever it was even vaguely on topic to do so...

So you've been enjoying your build then?

Honestly, I think all I told you was to make sure it was plugged in!
   334. BFFB Posted: December 21, 2013 at 08:20 AM (#4622067)
Papers Please is 50% off today on the Steam Sales, Stanley Parable is also on sale. If you haven't played either you should!

Also Metal Gear Rising in the new year on PC makes me extremely happy, 2014s 2013s Game of the Year right there.
   335. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: December 21, 2013 at 09:47 AM (#4622076)
Any Battlefield Junkies here?

God what a clusterF!@#
   336. hokieneer Posted: December 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM (#4622112)
Hey, I see Guns of Icarus Online is available for a song, one of my friends who is a game developer said he'd heard good things about it for online team play; 4-person teams piloting opposing steampunk dirigibles with up to 8 ships competing at once. Could be fun, and for under $4 a nose how much risk are you taking?


I think I might be interested in something like that. If nothing else is a different experience. I do think it would cripple my GPU though.

I picked up Dead Island yesterday. Downloading it now while I go to my mom's for some pre-Christmas dinner action. Still debating on picking up BL2, Guns of Icaurs, Shogun 2, and rogue legacy. It doesn't help that on the first day of the steam sale my refrigerator's control board died. I almost feel like it was some higher power telling me to stop buying games when I have enough of a backlog already.

Steam name is shockingly "hokieneer". Might be on later tonight for some DI or something. Have been promising the wife we'll get into The Last of Us sometime over the holidays, so could start that adventure tonight.
   337. I am going to be Frank Posted: December 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM (#4622114)
Is Railroad Tycoon 2 any good?
   338. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4622134)
Funny you mention it Jim....I was almost identically the same way, even down to the majority of my experience prior to my recent re-hash into FPS in the PC had been in Unreal Tournament.


To top it off my other experience with online co-op play in an FPS is years of on-and-off play of Team Fortress Classic. I started off mostly as a sniper but in later years was almost exclusively a rocketman, mostly playing advance the flag maps; as I never gained the top aiming/maneuvering skill of the truly good players my strategy was generally to throw myself into the fray, cause chaos, and attempt to blow #### up. Again, a strategy that just gets you killed in BL2. TFC was also a game where firing while jumping around was a common technique.

Towards the end of my time with YR last night I was getting a lot better about that stuff but then I played solo for a while afterwards and frequently found myself jumping from higher ground right into the middle of groups of enemies, gun blazing. Some people never learn.
   339. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 21, 2013 at 01:13 PM (#4622148)
YR is a great cat to cut your teeth with (or on, if that hiney is involved), great team player.


Nixon is a friend to all and a man of the people. Playing with pretty fun but I keep putting points into sniping-related skills and I've yet to find a good sniper rifle, which makes me feel pretty stupid charging headlong into action with a shotgun instead.

It's funny PosterNutbag, me and Jim played through to almost the exact same point where you and I stopped last time, so if we want to pick up a game with the three of us at least we'll all know where we are :)

I'm installing Dead Island now, maybe we can get something going in that or Borderland 2 this evening.
   340. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 21, 2013 at 01:20 PM (#4622152)
I shall be binge gaming today.....nudge me if anyone gets any kind of game going
   341. BFFB Posted: December 21, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4622158)
Any Battlefield Junkies here?

God what a clusterF!@#


Put in ~50 hours until an evening where it crashed/bug-out like 7-8 times in the space of a couple hours a few weeks ago. Haven't touched it since until I hear some solid word that it's stopped being a complete ###########.
   342. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 21, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4622175)
Crazy Paradox bundles are live again on Amazon. Go check them out.
   343. SteveF Posted: December 21, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4622176)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($383.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Spending 38% of the budget on the video card strikes me as unusual. Is this a case of desperately wanting 4GB of memory? Are we on the cusp of needing that much memory? I'd rather spend $200 on a video card every 2 years instead of $400 every 4 years. In the past it's just been a better way to keep pace with the games in my experience. It will suck (well, relatively) if I need to start doubling that!
   344. Moe Greene Posted: December 21, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4622183)
Crazy Paradox bundles are live again on Amazon. Go check them out.

Speaking of which, I still have this Crusader Kings 2 Steam key burning a hole in my pocket, if anyone wants it (for free).
   345. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 21, 2013 at 02:18 PM (#4622188)
Playing with pretty fun but I keep putting points into sniping-related skills and I've yet to find a good sniper rifle


Did you get the one from doing the Bullymong fur quest from Hammerlock? It's the only sniper rifle I've seen so far and it was working pretty well for me last night, got a bunch of one-shot kills from a distance.

I'm looking forward to post-Christmas gaming since I'm expecting that my parents will have bought me the keyboard and mouse I suggested as a gift idea. My currents ones are cheap crap, the keyboard has keys that sometimes get stuck in the down position after being pressed (if you ever see me strafing left out of control for a few seconds you'll know why) and the right mouse button doesn't always respond; plus the mouse I should be getting has some extra buttons for gaming so that ought to be handy.
   346. Greg K Posted: December 21, 2013 at 03:14 PM (#4622211)
Speaking of which, I still have this Crusader Kings 2 Steam key burning a hole in my pocket, if anyone wants it (for free).

I actually just found out I had an extra copy of Crusader Kings II to give as a gift that had been lying in my steam account for months. I was about to ask who wanted it, but it turns out only one friend on my entire steam list didn't already have it, so I sent it to him.
   347. BFFB Posted: December 21, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4622223)
Spending 38% of the budget on the video card strikes me as unusual. Is this a case of desperately wanting 4GB of memory? Are we on the cusp of needing that much memory? I'd rather spend $200 on a video card every 2 years instead of $400 every 4 years. In the past it's just been a better way to keep pace with the games in my experience. It will suck (well, relatively) if I need to start doubling that!


Up until a few weeks ago I had been able to play most things on high with my 560 Ti from 2011 and only upgraded to a 280X because I wanted 60 fps in Battlefield 4/Planetside 2, so yeah the "buy a midrange card and upgrade to another midrange card" is the way to go.
   348. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 21, 2013 at 04:29 PM (#4622242)
BTW, on the original topic, I hear that the Steam OS is available for free. I also hear that if you have the right spare parts laying around, you can easily build your own Steam Machine at home. Might have to give this a shot before I go back to work.
   349. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: December 22, 2013 at 12:28 AM (#4622376)
We are, in fact, on the cusp of seeing more than 2 GB desirable in cards that are good enough to make use of the memory. If you're playing a lot of high-end games (and if you're building a $1000 gaming rig instead of a $600 one, you probably are), the cards in the $350-$400 range tend to be the sweet spot.
   350. Paul D(uda) Posted: December 22, 2013 at 01:53 PM (#4622509)
I just finished Rogue Legacy. Pretty fun rogue-like. If that's your thing, grab it in the Steam sale.[
   351. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM (#4622814)
Greetings game-lovers! I was lucky enough to engage in some vault-hunting over the weekend and can report with some chagrin that not only has PosterNutbag progressed beyond his butt-shooting tendencies in Borderlands 2, but now he's a fair bit better than me (if a bit overly aggressive).

Today's latest Steam Winter Sale goodies include more quality stocking stuffing, such as Max Payne 3 for a mere $4, a price point at which you're pretty well guaranteed to get your money's worth out of the game. I haven't played it but I liked the first two installments, and for $4 I grabbed this one as well. Into the queue behind the rest of my booty!

Bullet-time shooters aside, it's a banner day for RPG fans on the sale, with three of the more heralded games of the last few years on sale: pick up Dragon Age, Oblivion, and Witcher 2 for only $5 a pop! Literally hundreds of hours of questing and character customizations can be yours for slightly more than the cost of a pumpkin spice latte! Oblivion in particular benefits from the extensive mod community so don't be dissuaded by the age of the game, it can be made to look quite gorgeous with a small bit of effort. Witcher 2 benefits from modding as well as I'm currently playing through it once more with the benefit of several new texture packs to better show off my new system. There's also a very well-done combat redesign mod made by the developers themselves (although it is unofficial) which I'm enjoying quite a bit since the combat in this series has always been on of the less accessible aspects of it.

A new panel of games on sale will be up at 1PM EST! Who knows what blessings the great GabeN will bequeath upon us?
   352. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: December 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM (#4622846)

Put in ~50 hours until an evening where it crashed/bug-out like 7-8 times in the space of a couple hours a few weeks ago. Haven't touched it since until I hear some solid word that it's stopped being a complete ###########.


The new patch is a lot better. You can actually hit things with a sniper rifle now.
   353. Greg K Posted: December 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM (#4622851)
Anyone played that "Verdun" game on steam? I've always thought Call of Duty made the mistake of moving the wrong way in history. My ultimate goal would be to play a Napoleonic or early 18th century shooter where half the game was going through the elaborate procedure of loading your gun.

Verdun looks like a step in the right direction, unfortunately it is only multiplayer.
   354. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM (#4622858)
Anyone played that "Verdun" game on steam? I've always thought Call of Duty made the mistake of moving the wrong way in history. My ultimate goal would be to play a Napoleonic or early 18th century shooter where half the game was going through the elaborate procedure of loading your gun.


Oh golly, I remember playing a game like that many years ago, I think it was a mod of the Half Life engine.
   355. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 23, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4622961)
Today looks like the day to grab your copy of BL2 if you haven't yet. It's $7.50, an the GotY edition is a mere $14.99. That's a fantastic deal!

Thanks for the encouragement YR....I learn quick! ;-)
   356. Paul D(uda) Posted: December 23, 2013 at 02:19 PM (#4622966)
What's dead space 2 like? I tried the first one and thought that it was a little too Plodding, but the second one is on today's steam sale
   357. zack Posted: December 23, 2013 at 04:53 PM (#4623068)
I've always thought Call of Duty made the mistake of moving the wrong way in history

Yes but, and I say this with love, you're a complete weirdo.
   358. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 23, 2013 at 05:34 PM (#4623099)
Games I've played and enjoyed this year (not necessarily came out in 2013):\

Spelunky - fun little platformer, the daily challenge is something I try not to miss
Magic the Gathering: 2014 - The annual update to the collectible card game is fun for me and a friend to play against the PC (which is both ruthless and sometimes bizarre in strategy).
X-COM Enemy Unknown - I'm slowly working my way through this game, but my impatience in the missions often injures/kills someone unnecessarily.
Crusader Kings II - gifted to me by a BBTF member, I'm going to be going back to it (after 20 hours) because a friend just gifted me the full DLC package when it was on sale on Steam yesterday.
Path of Exile - excellent free-to-play game that is how Diablo III should have been done (with slightly less impressive graphics). The skill tree is unlike anything I've seen before.
   359. hokieneer Posted: December 23, 2013 at 06:08 PM (#4623136)
Magic the Gathering: 2014 - The annual update to the collectible card game is fun for me and a friend to play against the PC (which is both ruthless and sometimes bizarre in strategy).
Path of Exile - excellent free-to-play game that is how Diablo III should have been done (with slightly less impressive graphics). The skill tree is unlike anything I've seen before.


I saw some early interviews with the POE devs, and they were talking about how MTG influenced the skill tree creation. How there are 3 distinct attribute "areas", and 7 starting spots, but nothing is stopping someone from pulling pieces from going into many areas, just like MTG. And the way they are constantly balancing and adding to the tree suggests they treat it much the same way as a MTG.

How much have you played POE? I've been playing off an on since open beta launch. I get in spells where I will completely binge on it for weeks and then not play for months. I played for 3 weeks at the Oct. release, but haven't played since Thanksgiving. Nemesis league is a lot of fun on the harder difficulties.

I have a few errands/chores to do this evening (put together one of the boys Christmas presents, wrap a few more), then I'll be available for either Borderlands 2 or Dead Island (or POE). Depends on where the party is I guess.
   360. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: December 23, 2013 at 06:57 PM (#4623172)
Man, if you guys keep proceeding apace with BL2, I won't even have to roll a new character when I finally am able to play with y'all.
   361. Greg K Posted: December 23, 2013 at 07:09 PM (#4623179)
Yes but, and I say this with love, you're a complete weirdo.

Received in kind!

And thanks Mr. Random for the Path of Exile suggestion. I had seen that game earlier, and was on the fence about playing it.
   362. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 23, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4623233)
I've played POE for only about 12 hours so far, but I'm intrigued on how the skills are going to open up.
I'm using a sword-swinging brutish-type character, so most of my skills are just to boost strength and damage from a sword.

#359 is correct on how the skill tree branches, and I actually see a path of development for my character where I can stop adding strength and maybe boost some other options.
Here is a screenshot I took of the skill tree for a friend to see.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=206777011

I haven't tried the league stuff yet, and with an infant and a terrible commute, my play time is so very small most weeks.

I should say that the one thing I liked about Diablo3 was being able to respect my skills at any time, just to try new things out.
It's why I didn't take to Torchlight 2 (even though I loved Torchlight), and being able to respect some skill points in POE is a nice balance.
   363. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 23, 2013 at 10:17 PM (#4623246)
I will be playing Borderlands 2 for probably the next two hours or so if anyone wants to join. Find me at JimmyTheShovel
   364. madvillain Posted: December 23, 2013 at 10:39 PM (#4623250)
I'm curious as to what most you guys game on? We're kinda in a golden age of PC gaming wrt to specs, as even an older e8400 (ah, the legend) paired with an older Radeon 4800 will run most new games at medium or low settings, and most older games (Source, WoW) at medium or high settings.

Personally my rig is currently "just" a i5 2500k, 8gb PC3-1280, Radeon 4800 and a 23" generic LED monitor. Got a pretty nice THX certified Logitech 2.1 System with an 8" woofer that rocks pretty hard. Case is a "low end" Fractal Design Mini-ATX, hard drive a WD Blue 1TB and PSU a 460w Coolermaster. Pretty cheap build, kinda piecemieled it together over the past few years. I own a computer business and could easily build a pimped out Haswell system with all the latest jazz, but don't really see the need right now.

I was kinda disappointed to find out that OOTP hardly runs better on the i5 than the e8400, it must not be optimized for the 4 cores and additional threads. I suspect most games are similar. Of course running OOTP and FM13 and 20 FF tabs with Itunes going and seeing no slowdown is kinda neat.

Any "killer apps" coming down the line that really scream "upgrade"? Like I remember when Bioshock came out or even GTA IV, now that was a reason to upgrade.

In fact, I have some money to spend on upgrading my electronics this new year and almost all of it going towards a PS4 or XBONE (still haven't decided) and possibly a better TV (the 40" Sceptre from 2009 I have now isn't even that bad, but when 55" LED sets can be had for $600 it kinda makes ya think).
   365. hokieneer Posted: December 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM (#4623252)
I've played POE for only about 12 hours so far, but I'm intrigued on how the skills are going to open up.
I'm using a sword-swinging brutish-type character, so most of my skills are just to boost strength and damage from a sword.

#359 is correct on how the skill tree branches, and I actually see a path of development for my character where I can stop adding strength and maybe boost some other options.
Here is a screenshot I took of the skill tree for a friend to see.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=206777011


One thing you'll learn as you progress is POE is a very hard game, and survive-ability is key. I assume you are playing in standard league, which means you don't have to worry about perma death, just xp penalty; but's it's still very important to keep that in mind. It's very hard to go full glass-cannon-y esp once you hit act3 and into Cruel difficulty. Starting with a marauder helps, just make sure you crab those life nodes at the start. You'll need them eventually.

I should say that the one thing I liked about Diablo3 was being able to respect my skills at any time, just to try new things out.
It's why I didn't take to Torchlight 2 (even though I loved Torchlight), and being able to respect some skill points in POE is a nice balance.


It also helps that active skills are in gems, so theoretically you can switch those out at any time. Doing so too drastically could ruin the skill tree synergy, just depends on the individual skills and tree combination. Aside from a few "keystones", most of the tree is building up your stats/attributes efficiently.
   366. hokieneer Posted: December 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4623254)
Sent you an invite Jim. Steam name is hokieneer as well.

I just installed BL2, so I'm like level 2 now. Also it's been a long time since I played a FPS with K&M, so this should be an adventure.
   367. Greg K Posted: December 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4623256)
One thing you'll learn as you progress is POE is a very hard game, and survive-ability is key. I assume you are playing in standard league, which means you don't have to worry about perma death, just xp penalty; but's it's still very important to keep that in mind. It's very hard to go full glass-cannon-y esp once you hit act3 and into Cruel difficulty. Starting with a marauder helps, just make sure you crab those life nodes at the start. You'll need them eventually.

Now I am slightly intimidated about trying this game (which just finished downloading). I think I understood about 35% of the words in this paragraph.
   368. hokieneer Posted: December 23, 2013 at 11:33 PM (#4623271)
Now I am slightly intimidated about trying this game (which just finished downloading). I think I understood about 35% of the words in this paragraph.


Sorry Greg, don't let my ramblings scare you. I've been playing the game for almost a year, so really familiar too me.

Basically the game can be challenging, esp at higher levels, but it doesn't start off too rough. Just be mindful of your life and defenses. It also doesn't have a tutorial or any kind of tips/hints for new players (most indie game lack these extras), so there might be some frustration early on while you learn some of the mechanics. At it's heart it's a diablo clicky ARPG, but there is a lot of customization, mechanics, character building, systems interaction, etc; under the hood.

If you need any help just ping me. I don't care to answer any questions or hop in game to help out if I can. I'd like for more people to at least be exposed to the game (and hopefully like it for selfish co-op reasons).
   369. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM (#4623400)
Steam Sale update! Very indy-flavored right now, although everything is prone to change at 1PM of course. Reus looks like a really interesting game, somewhere around "Black and White" and "Populus" for you old-school world-builders. Hey, it's $2.50, that's ashtray money for Lenny Dykstra *today*! There's also Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs for $10, I played the first "Amnesia" game and was really impressed at how effective and atmospheric it was as survival horror, so this might be worth checking out as well.

And of course you can pick up Borderlands 2 with all the DLC for $30, or just Borderlands 2 for $7.50. Be cool like me, Jim, PosterNutbag, Formerly DP, and the rest of your Primer brethren and get out there and kill mutant nomads!
   370. hokieneer Posted: December 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM (#4623410)
OK so the price has jumped on BL2 GOTY since yesterday evening. I purchased it right when I got home from work for $15, because I was debating on rebuying just vanilla or all the DLC.

So anyone still wanting to purchase the full GOTY, I'd head over to GetGamesGo. They have it for $15 still. I have never used GetGamesGo, but I assume after you check out they just email you a steam key.
   371. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM (#4623432)
Even though I just spent $10 on regular BL2 I should probably just get the GOTY edition for 15 as well, I'm sure I'll want the extra content eventually
   372. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM (#4623512)
GetGamesGo is golden. You get your Steam keys and off you go. Just one of the many places I check daily for deals.
   373. formerly dp Posted: December 24, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4623529)
Is the BL2 GOTY at GetGamesGo only for Mac? That's how it looks when I go to the site...

Hope everyone's have a great holiday season, looking forward to doing some sniping with everyone here when I return from my winter travels.
   374. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 24, 2013 at 01:54 PM (#4623550)
In the description on GetGamesGo the very first, bolded line explains that it is a "Steamworks" title.

"This is a Steamworks title, so buy it once and play it on PC or Mac!"

It'll work, through Steam, on either platform. So go grab it! ;-)
   375. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 24, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4623578)
Hmm, I wonder if I'd be able to carry over my character from the regular edition to GOTY if I bought it....

Wouldn't be a huge deal if I had to start over but I'd rather not.
   376. formerly dp Posted: December 24, 2013 at 05:06 PM (#4623653)
It'll work, through Steam, on either platform. So go grab it! ;-)
On it, thanks for pointing that out!
===

Hmm, I wonder if I'd be able to carry over my character from the regular edition to GOTY if I bought it....
Don't see why it wouldn't. This is just adding the DLC packs I think.
   377. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 24, 2013 at 05:33 PM (#4623666)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Some games the special editions give you one giant integrated program but with modern distribution techniques it seems likely that the GOTY ed. would just give you all the DLCs as separate installs.
   378. hokieneer Posted: December 24, 2013 at 06:28 PM (#4623687)
Just purchased Gnomoria for $2. It will serve as my casual or simple Dwarf Fortress.

I always wanted to try DF, but just didn't think I would have the time & energy to get past the interface and initial learning curve.
   379. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 24, 2013 at 07:38 PM (#4623700)
Yeah, Dwarf Fortress sounds like something the younger, more obsessive me would have gone nuts over. The current me is pretty intimidated by the whole thing.
   380. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 25, 2013 at 03:10 PM (#4623858)
Hey y'all, in you're looking for a little something to fill your online stocking I bring tidings of great joy - Behold, the super-fun co-op game Left 4 Dead 2 is absolutely 100% FREE right now on the Steam Winter Sale.

Who loves ya baby?
   381. Greg K Posted: December 25, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4623864)
Just redeemed a bunch of Christmas Steam Wallet pounds. So far Far Cry 3 seems like a ridiculous amount of fun.
   382. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 25, 2013 at 03:28 PM (#4623866)
Steam Store servers have melted down under the load :)

Keep checking in though, this is a great game and everyone should check it out for the low, low price of FREE. Praise GabeN!
   383. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 26, 2013 at 07:20 PM (#4624403)
Borderlands 2 players: After having no luck for a while with finding a shotgun worth using I found one and then soon after ended up with three more. So now I have three good shotguns available if anyone needs one, as well as a good assault rifle, solid sniper rifle (all of the previous items are level 12-13) and a good level 8 fire pistol. I'd be happy to give them away to a good home but would of course also be interested in trading if you've got anything interesting; I'm actually pretty happy with my weapon assortment right now but there's always room for improvement.
   384. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 26, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4624437)
One of my friends obviously has decided to ruin my already hectic life by gifting me OOTP 14.
I have a long commute, a tired wife, and 7-month old baby...how am I supposed to be a good husband if I'm too busy leading the Jays to the promised land?!
   385. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM (#4624461)
Re: OOTP 14 - I just picked this up as well. Shocked that nobody from here had it
   386. Daunte Vicknabbit! Posted: December 27, 2013 at 06:30 AM (#4624542)
I've added a few of you already, DJS and YR I know, my handle is Islero729. I have started attempting to learn DotA and am usually down for some TF2 at the very least.
   387. Swedish Chef Posted: December 27, 2013 at 06:40 AM (#4624544)
Anyone played that "Verdun" game on steam?

Not gaming, but have you seen Joe Sacco's panorama of the Somme?
   388. Greg K Posted: December 27, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4624557)
I hadn't seen that, I'll have to check it out.

The way he talks about being obsessed with the First World War sounds very familiar to me. I remember making a Lego Fort Douaumont once as a kid, and haven't really stopped reading about that war since. At certain point you have to stop and wonder why.
   389. Paul D(uda) Posted: December 27, 2013 at 11:03 AM (#4624584)
So far I've picked up tomb raider, max Payne 3, gone home,call of Juarez gunslinger,brothers,and guacamele. Steam sale + year end gaming podcasts = lots of new games.
   390. hokieneer Posted: December 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4624667)
Yes, thanks to year end gaming podcasts, I want to pick up Gone Home and Stanley Parable. Both seem right up my alley. But I'm still fairly saturated with new games from GOG's summer sale, GOG's gifting of Fallout(s), steam winter sale, and re joining PS+ and PS3 after not having one for almost a year; that I have no idea when I would boot up Gone Home.


I have a long commute, a tired wife, and 7-month old baby...how am I supposed to be a good husband if I'm too busy leading the Jays to the promised land?!


It doesn't get any easier. My son is 4, and this console generation has been a lesson in time management and min/maxing gaming experiences. I now try to restrict myself to 1 or at most 2 games at "a time". I play them until I get bored or finish them. Usually something that's an in depth experience and something that is more lightweight and/or multiplayer. This helps cut down on time to get re acclimated to controls/mechanics of a game from constant switching. I also don't care to mildly use guides, FAQs, message boards, etc. I used to love trying to figure out games completely by myself but that requires a level of free time I don't have anymore.
   391. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 27, 2013 at 01:36 PM (#4624703)
Since it has been brought up, can anyone point me in the direction of some good gaming podcasts?
Also, GetGamesGo is doing a "GetLoaded" sale I anyone missed out on BL2 or Bioshock Infinite. 2 games for $15. There are more then those 2 available, but those are the two most often mentioned here.
   392. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 27, 2013 at 01:55 PM (#4624713)
GetGames 2 for $15 Full List: Bioshock Infinite, BL2, The Buerau: X-Com Declassified, Shadow Warrior, Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls IV Deluxe, Elder Scrolls 3 GOTY, Doom 3, Tomb Raider, Hitman Absolution, Sleeping Dogs, Warhammer: Dawn Of War II, Warhammer: Space Marines, Warhammer: DoW II Chaos Rising, Warhammer: DoW II Retribution, Speedball 2 HD, Sniper Elite V2: High Command, Painkiller: Hell & Damnation Collector's Edition
   393. zack Posted: December 27, 2013 at 02:39 PM (#4624738)
Was about to make my first purchase of this (rather underwhelming) sale Don't Starve for $1.20, but that must have been a mistake because now it's $5.

Whatever happened to the publisher packs? Those are what made the Steam sales epic a few years ago.
   394. Moe Greene Posted: December 27, 2013 at 03:19 PM (#4624754)
Yeah, the Don't Starve price was definitely a glitch. That's part of the fun of the Steam sale: when the new day's deals are posted, buy anything showing > 90% off because it's a glitch!

Here's a good deal on Amazon: Sword of the Stars: The Pit Gold Edition for $1.74. Includes Sword of the Stars: The Pit and two DLC's. Currently $9.74 on Steam. People on CAG have been wondering whether it's a mistake, but it's been available for a little while now.
   395. CrosbyBird Posted: December 27, 2013 at 03:58 PM (#4624795)
I'm crosbybird on Steam, although most of my gaming is console. That might shift a bit when the XBox1 controller becomes PC-compatible.
   396. Paul D(uda) Posted: December 27, 2013 at 05:59 PM (#4624869)
Gaming podcasts I like:

Giantbombcast - probably the premier gaming podcast. Just finished a massive week of year end podcasts.

Weekend confirmed - hosted by Garnett Lee, who hosted the first great gaming podcast. Much more focused than the Bombcast which frequently has long non gaming digressions .

Rebel FM - mostly for a different perspective. Arthur in particular is either insightful or annoying,depending on the topic and my mood.
   397. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 27, 2013 at 10:16 PM (#4624994)
Thanks Paul!

FWIW, budget gamers, try Nation Red on steam for about $1.49 right now. I dicked around with it for about a half-an-hour earlier and it's simplistic fun at it's best. It also has a CO-OP mode.
   398. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 28, 2013 at 01:05 AM (#4625043)
The best gaming podcast I've come across is "Crate & Crowbar".
It's a collection of PC Gamer UK employees (or ex-employees for a couple of them, including the guy who created the indie game "Gunpoint") who get together each week, crack open some liquor, and talk about computer games.
There are no restrictions on the language being used, the stories about games (and gaming moments) are hilarious (they are slightly tipsy at this point), and they answer a fair number of questions from email/twitter. They are big fans of indie games, and will provide links in the show notes to more information about what they discussed during the podcast.

The only problem (for some) might be the English accents/phrasing, but to me it just adds to the hilarity of the gaming stories they tell.


   399. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 28, 2013 at 05:11 PM (#4625267)
If anyone wants a good game to just totally #### around with your buddies, especially if you imbibe in any substances which thwart sobriety in any way, grab Garry's Mod for $2.49 today. With games like "Prop Hunt", you can really have a blast. I cannot explain the endless amount of entirely juvenile and pointless fun you can have with this game. Combined with the Steam Workshop, it can get quite insane....

(The game DOES require that you have one of the "base" games already in order to play, as it's really just an obese mod of sorts)
   400. Esmailyn Gonzalez Sr. Posted: December 31, 2013 at 12:27 PM (#4627112)
Alan Wake for $2.99 on Steam. Highly recommend.
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