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i estimate that absolutely noone gives a damn about the NHL, so by folding that thread into this one, we won’t distract from what this thread is really about: boner pills, blood doping (is it low t?), and…jesus christ did mike vick just throw another ####### interception?

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   1101. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 04, 2013 at 02:43 PM (#4339072)
just from a people perspective i think andy reid is making a horrible decision. given all that has happened in his personal and professional life the man needs to go somewhere, with his wife, and just 'be'.

running into a new job is not the answer

that's my two cent psychobabble
   1102. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 03:22 PM (#4339114)
On a more serious note, so glad Pioli is gone, but not excited about Reid being the "GM". As been previously discussed, Reid's player personal decisions (outside of trading backup QBs) have been awful.

Is it certain that Reid will be the GM? I thought I'd read that they still may bring a GM in, though it may end up being more of a "VP of Player Personnel" type that actually reports to Reid.
   1103. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 03:23 PM (#4339116)
Reid is better than the likes of Jeff Fisher, though.

The Chicago media seems to love Fisher, and I've heard/read comments that it's a shame Lovie wasn't fired last year so we could have gotten Fisher.

I don't get it at all.
   1104. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4339120)
just from a people perspective i think andy reid is making a horrible decision. given all that has happened in his personal and professional life the man needs to go somewhere, with his wife, and just 'be'.

running into a new job is not the answer

that's my two cent psychobabble

You may be right, but many, many people end up defining themselves via their careers. Retirement can be tough, and given what he's gone through personally, it might be that much tougher.

That's my two-cent psychobabble. :)
   1105. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 04, 2013 at 03:27 PM (#4339122)
chirs

not suggesting he retire

say he get away for a while

   1106. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:09 PM (#4339170)
just from a people perspective i think andy reid is making a horrible decision. given all that has happened in his personal and professional life the man needs to go somewhere, with his wife, and just 'be'.


I think you have this backwards, Harvey. To me, Reid's problem is not his job. It's his marriage and kids. The latter should probably not have happened, unless he's actually a wonderful and dedicated father and that fact has been masked by the trouble his kids ran into.

It is difficult to devote this much time to a job and have a family at the same time. People can do both successfully; Reid can't. But the coaching is who he is; it's what defines him, not his family life. It's kind of a sad state of affairs but people are often like that. I know some of them myself in other settings.

One of the things the Jovan Belcher situation did for me was bring into focus again how much these head coaches work. Because on that fateful day Belcher showed up at the Chiefs' training facility at 8am on a Saturday morning -- and Crennell and the GM were there. They work long hours.
   1107. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:10 PM (#4339172)
The Chicago media seems to love Fisher, and I've heard/read comments that it's a shame Lovie wasn't fired last year so we could have gotten Fisher.

I don't get it at all.


Fisher was on the 1985 Bears. What more needs to be said? Chicagoans would be excited about bringing back Cliff Thrift.
   1108. zenbitz Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:25 PM (#4339189)
But he would start for 5-10 teams. As mentioned above, if KC could get him for a 6th rounder they should jump on that yesterday.


But most of those teams have a high draft pick. And some of those teams are far from a QB away from a playoff spot. I think the only way the Niners get anything notable is if
a) the Raiders decide they want Alex Smith
b) there are 3 teams in a bidding war over him
   1109. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:29 PM (#4339198)
ESPN Chicago is reporting that the Bills are going to interview Lovie: source.

Following in the footsteps of Dick Jauron!
   1110. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:34 PM (#4339207)
Chris, don't forget Wanny's the recent ex-DC there too!
   1111. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 05:43 PM (#4339274)
Chris, don't forget Wanny's the recent ex-DC there too!

Wow, I didn't even realize that. Shows how much attention I pay to the Bills, I suppose.
   1112. smileyy Posted: January 04, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4339318)
Because on that fateful day Belcher showed up at the Chiefs' training facility at 8am on a Saturday morning -- and Crennell and the GM were there. They work long hours.


I don't doubt that those jobs are long-hours jobs -- but they're also seasonal and more weekend-oriented, so I'd expect to see a lot more hours put in during the football season.
   1113. hokieneer Posted: January 04, 2013 at 09:16 PM (#4339388)
Is it certain that Reid will be the GM? I thought I'd read that they still may bring a GM in, though it may end up being more of a "VP of Player Personnel" type that actually reports to Reid.


According to what John Clayton just said, Reid will have power over personal, but the Chiefs are still going to hire a GM to work along side Reid.
   1114. zack Posted: January 04, 2013 at 09:18 PM (#4339390)
For anyone that's up at 8am tomorrow, watch the USA play for gold tomorrow vs Sweden. It'll be streamed free online (or if you get the NHL channel on there).
   1115. Every Inge Counts Posted: January 04, 2013 at 09:20 PM (#4339391)
Chip Kelly to Cleveland is a huge move if it happens. A potential game-changer.
   1116. Langer Monk Posted: January 04, 2013 at 10:48 PM (#4339425)
Assuming the rumors are true, looks like the owners were very serious about not missing another season - not sure they are making fast progress, but neither side has walked off in a fit of any kind. So, still cautiously optimistic the NHL has a near 50 game season.
   1117. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: January 05, 2013 at 11:43 AM (#4339595)
Gold!

John Gibson was amazing. Very happy for former Hawk Phil Housley.
   1118. zack Posted: January 05, 2013 at 03:30 PM (#4339695)
Oh, say...

That game was worth getting up early for.
   1119. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 05, 2013 at 03:44 PM (#4339706)
Rex Ryan, despite the Jets winning 6 games was stunningly bad in 2012. Took a bad situation with the QB mess that he had and made it much worse than it had to be. Just no concept on how to manage a situation like that.


He has no business being a head coach. He knows less than nothing about how teams score points and thus win games in today's NFL. The rules are geared towards protecting the quarterbacks and wide receivers - and this absolutely must be taken advantage of.
   1120. JJ1986 Posted: January 05, 2013 at 05:41 PM (#4339758)
The Jets made the championship game two years in a row under Ryan. He had a bad year, but a lot of that is the fault of the front office for extending Sanchez and bringing in a backup QB that Ryan didn't want.
   1121. booond Posted: January 05, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4339792)
The Jets made the championship game two years in a row under Ryan. He had a bad year, but a lot of that is the fault of the front office for extending Sanchez and bringing in a backup QB that Ryan didn't want.


While it isn't all Rex's fault, the team point differential has taken significant steps backwards evey year after Year 1 and that team was more the previous regimes than his. He needs to get them moving in the right direction (9-7, 10-6)or he's gone next year.
   1122. Famous Original Joe C Posted: January 05, 2013 at 09:18 PM (#4339829)
Joe Webb!
   1123. JJ1986 Posted: January 05, 2013 at 09:52 PM (#4339841)
Whatever physical tools he has, Joe Webb seems quite lacking in awareness. Looks to run way too much, doesn't feel defenders and not good at tossing the ball away.
   1124. booond Posted: January 05, 2013 at 11:00 PM (#4339858)
Vikings need a discount double check.
   1125. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:26 AM (#4339885)
pretty much a dud day of WC games, even the close Texans game.
   1126. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:59 AM (#4339948)
NHL and players have reached a tentative agreement, per reports.
   1127. Langer Monk Posted: January 06, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4339980)
8-10 years of no more NHL CBA talks.
   1128. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: January 06, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4340016)
8th candidate, 6th OC:

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter
Bears asked for and received permission to interview Texans OC Rick Dennison for HC job. Dennison worked with Cutler and Marshall in Denver.


And:

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter
Bears told their nearly dozen HC candidates they plan to bring two finalists to Halas Hall this week for second round of interviews.


Hmmm.
   1129. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 06, 2013 at 12:59 PM (#4340019)
What? The Bears can't bring Dennison to Halas Hall as long as the Texans are still alive in the playoffs.
   1130. stanmvp48 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:16 PM (#4340029)
Someone help me with a rule. The Texans got a first down with about 2:30 left in the game. Cincy was out of time outs and the clock would run down to two minutes. They could then take three knees, ending the game. Howevere, there was a personal foul on Cincy and the clock stopped which helped Cincy because H could not then run out the clock. I know that sometimes the clock keeps running after a penalty, but when? Also if H had declined the penalty would that have caused the clock to run?
   1131. stanmvp48 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4340033)
Another question: I certainly might have missed it, but was there a lot of talk about Ponder's status before he was announced unavailable? A lot of people would have liked to know about it. Webb looked like a bad Tebow.
   1132. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:36 PM (#4340035)
I don't feel great about the Redskins chances today, but I can't be anything but thrilled with the season. I thought it would take a few more years.
   1133. Howie Menckel Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:44 PM (#4340045)

someone needs to be "re-educated" on what a great gentleman and ambassador Ray Lewis is:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-mike-bianchi-ray-lewis-0106-20130105,0,1707256.column

   1134. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:45 PM (#4340047)
NHL and players have reached a tentative agreement, per reports.


A couple of those Canadian reporters looked ####### exhausted. Some of them had been "reporting" for the last 25 hours straight as they got closer and closer to an agreement.

And both major sports networks in Canada (TSN and Sportsnet) will be having a special "end-of-the-lockout" discussion at 6:00pm, and then a team-by-team review after that.

The best part about this agreement is no more ####### KHL highlights that were filmed with a Nintendo Gameboy Camera.
   1135. Howie Menckel Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:51 PM (#4340051)

I think the personal foul gave the Texans a first down, which would be a big advantage there. not sure of the rest of your question.
The Ponder news seemed to be out by mid-afternoon, iirc, with the idea that he was questionable at that point.
   1136. SoSH U at work Posted: January 06, 2013 at 01:52 PM (#4340052)
Someone help me with a rule. The Texans got a first down with about 2:30 left in the game. Cincy was out of time outs and the clock would run down to two minutes. They could then take three knees, ending the game. Howevere, there was a personal foul on Cincy and the clock stopped which helped Cincy because H could not then run out the clock. I know that sometimes the clock keeps running after a penalty, but when? Also if H had declined the penalty would that have caused the clock to run?


I wondered that myself. It's ridiculous that Cincinnati would benefit from a personal foul in that situation, and I'm sure Houston would have declined the penalty if it meant the clock kept running.


I think the personal foul gave the Texans a first down, which would be a big advantage there. not sure of the rest of your question.


No, they already had the first down on the completion. The PF merely added yards to the end of the play.
   1137. JJ1986 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4340067)
Are NFL reporters just completely making stuff up and hoping it turns out to be correct? First Andy Reid was definitely going to coach the Cardinals and then Chip Kelly was definitely going to coach the Browns.
   1138. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 02:49 PM (#4340085)
I don't feel great about the Redskins chances today, but I can't be anything but thrilled with the season. I thought it would take a few more years.


They've certainly surpassed expectations by getting this far, but I'm a little more optimistic about today. The Seahawks are the better team, but they are beatable on the road, and the Redskins coaching staff has done a stellar job of scheming over the last 7 weeks to cover for personnel deficiencies.

I'd feel a lot better if RG3 was able to play without that brace, though.
   1139. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: January 06, 2013 at 03:26 PM (#4340106)
Hockey. Playoff football.
   1140. DA Baracus Posted: January 06, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4340109)
Are NFL reporters just completely making stuff up and hoping it turns out to be correct? First Andy Reid was definitely going to coach the Cardinals and then Chip Kelly was definitely going to coach the Browns.


They are blindly repeating what the coach's agents are saying to them. They deserve to get burned for that.
   1141. zenbitz Posted: January 06, 2013 at 04:04 PM (#4340126)
I don't really believe in extreme home road splits - even in an amplifier like Seattle's stadium. I think the Seahawks are going to crush the Redskins, and should probably be even money against the Falcons, if not slight favorites. I hope I am wrong, because I think they will beat the Niners in SF, too (assuming we get past the Packers)
   1142. Howie Menckel Posted: January 06, 2013 at 04:16 PM (#4340135)
Which Seattle road game this year sold you on their greatness there?
8-0 at home, 3-5 on road, albeit competitive against the 49ers and all 7 out-of-playoffs opponents.

They have been extraordinarily healthy this year, the QB and RB are very good, and the D is even better. But I just don't see the road performance that tells me they can travel 3,000 miles and win.

* - of course if RG III is too banged up to be effective, sure the Seahawks ought to win.

We'll both find out soon enough.
:)

   1143. DA Baracus Posted: January 06, 2013 at 04:18 PM (#4340139)
Seattle has a better pass offense, rush offense, pass defense, rush defense and special teams. Washington could still win but Seattle is clearly the better team.
   1144. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 06, 2013 at 04:18 PM (#4340140)
I knew the Colts sucked, but man, they really suck.
   1145. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: January 06, 2013 at 04:27 PM (#4340146)
wooo hockey
   1146. Howie Menckel Posted: January 06, 2013 at 05:21 PM (#4340180)

Seattle has a better rush offense?
really?

not sure where the better pass offense comes in, either, especially with Garcon playing (Redskins are 9-1 when he plays).

Morris and RG III barely beat out the SEA counterparts in stats overall this year, so call it even, except it's a Seattle road game.

Seattle has a MUCH better defense, that is true.

   1147. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 06, 2013 at 05:51 PM (#4340199)
howie

are you accounting for qulaity of opponent in the two teams schedule?
   1148. DA Baracus Posted: January 06, 2013 at 05:52 PM (#4340200)
Seattle has a better rush offense?


I'll amend that to equal. FO has them #1 by a nose, Advanced NFL stats has them a shade behind Washington. Still, everything else they do is better than the Redskins. Washington being 9-1 when Garcon plays doesn't tell me anything unless they played a similar schedule to the Seahawks, which they didn't.
   1149. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 06, 2013 at 05:54 PM (#4340205)
seattle has really good special teams

fwiw
   1150. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:03 PM (#4340215)
seattle better get their sea legs or this game might get away from them
   1151. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4340218)
Took his helmet off - is that illegal just in NCAA?
   1152. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4340219)
Good thing Shanahan doesn't give a hoot what doctors think about Griffin's health. Otherwise we'd be seeing Cousins.
   1153. DA Baracus Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:09 PM (#4340221)
This could be a good game if the Seahawks showed up.
   1154. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:13 PM (#4340224)
Griffin pretty clearly concussed himself when his head hit the ground on the play (two snaps before the TD.)
   1155. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4340226)
RG3 had helmet radio trouble at the beginning of the game. Maybe the Redskins radios are picking up all the Seahawks plays as they are called.
   1156. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:40 PM (#4340237)
Took his helmet off - is that illegal just in NCAA?
Maybe OK because he was out of bounds? (guessing)
   1157. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4340239)
Damn, it feels like the Redskins have let a huge opportunity slip away here. A different bounce on that fumble and one more third-and-long stop and this is a different game.
   1158. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 07:08 PM (#4340253)
Re: Ray Lewis

In the past, I found myself conflicted about Ray Lewis and the murders. But the best that can be said about him is that he conspired to cover up murders by his friends, and the worse is that he actively participated in the murders.

He's done a fabulous job of rehabilitating his image. The plea deal and the subsequent acquittal played into that a lot, but really, it sounds like its not so much that "They were innocent", but really "We couldn't convict them". Was that a prosecution screw-up?
   1159. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 07:17 PM (#4340259)
Stinkin break for the Skins!
   1160. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 07:33 PM (#4340267)
Wow, that was a huge flag for the Seahawks. Bad time for the refs to wake up.
   1161. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 07:58 PM (#4340276)
I do not understand 3rd down blitzing.
   1162. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:00 PM (#4340277)
Lynch and Wilson are pretty good.
   1163. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:00 PM (#4340278)
Wow. Maybe he gets in without that block from the QB, but maybe not. Hell of hustle by Russell Wilson.
   1164. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:01 PM (#4340279)
True, although Lynch's fumble and Wilson's missed TD bomb are the only reason the Skins are still in this. Those third and long conversions have been killers.
   1165. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:01 PM (#4340280)
Wilson's block looked pretty useless.
   1166. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4340281)
I do not understand 3rd down blitzing.


Why? I know some coaches do it by default, which is pretty foolish. Is that what you're talking about? Because otherwise, I don't see the problem.
   1167. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4340282)
#### me.
   1168. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4340283)
Wilson's block looked pretty useless.


Yes it did. Still pretty cool to watch though.
   1169. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:04 PM (#4340284)
I remember saying something like let's see how good the Redskins are when RGIII gets banged up. Folks, this is what they look like.
   1170. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:07 PM (#4340287)
RGIII just died.
   1171. JJ1986 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:07 PM (#4340288)
What the hell is Shanahan doing?
   1172. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4340289)
[1166] Sorry -- I especially mean 3rd-and-ten blitzing, where the chances of gaining 10+ yards seem to increase with the fewer players you have in the secondary.
   1173. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4340290)
Well that's a shitty way to end the season. It's a shame we couldn't have a healthy rg3 today, I think they would've given the Seahawks a hell of a game.

Go Falcons I guess.
   1174. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4340291)
Ew. I don't want to watch replays of his knee doing that.
   1175. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4340292)
I hope RGIII learns to be a good pocket passer for 2014 because otherwise this is another draft bust.
   1176. JJ1986 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:10 PM (#4340293)
Sorry -- I especially mean 3rd-and-ten blitzing, where the chances of gaining 10+ yards seem to increase with the fewer players you have in the secondary.


Gregg Easterbrook was obsessed with this, but he would constantly point to mean stats instead of success rate to make his point.
   1177. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:10 PM (#4340294)
I hope RGIII learns to be a good pocket passer for 2014 because otherwise this is another draft bust.


Oh, go #### yourself.
   1178. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:11 PM (#4340295)
I would like an NFL where "dynamic playmaker" QBs like RGIII, etc., in some fashion be a viable system as much as "laser sharp pocket passer" QBs are in this NFL. Sort of like the aesthetics of baseball where baserunning is an important aspect of the sport.

I don't know how to make that happen though.
   1179. MHS Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:12 PM (#4340297)

Well that's a shitty way to end the season. It's a shame we couldn't have a healthy rg3 today, I think they would've given the Seahawks a hell of a game.


He shouldn't have been on the field. He is a worse pocket passer than cousins, the team would have been better with him in street clothes.
   1180. NTNgod Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:13 PM (#4340299)
I don't want to see Golden Tate ######## about a lack of a flag. No, siree.
   1181. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:13 PM (#4340300)
I don't know how to make that happen though.

Turn the NFL in to the NFFL. The National Flag Football League. Otherwise it is an impossibility.
   1182. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:15 PM (#4340301)
He shouldn't have been on the field. He is a worse pocket passer than cousins, the team would have been better with him in street clothes.

That would have put too much risk on the front office and coaching staff. People generally perform to not get fired more than anything else.
   1183. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:15 PM (#4340302)
[1176] Easterbrook's data was garbage, but I agree with the overall sentiment (as nasueated as it makes me to say that. I feel the "momentum" of a sack or a QB hurry on 3rd and long, but if that extra rusher doesn't make the play, there's somebody open, or a lot of people single-covered. And probably a hole in the defense in that 10-yard area.
   1184. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:17 PM (#4340304)
Sorry -- I especially mean 3rd-and-ten blitzing, where the chances of gaining 10+ yards seem to increase with the fewer players you have in the secondary.


I think the idea behind it is that the Seahawks O-line isn't very good at pass blocking, so try to force a quick pass while hoping that your secondary can keep everyone covered for a second or two. If you don't blitz, you let Wilson scramble as the field spreads out. Not sure if it's the best call in that situation, but I think it's defensible. The problem was that the Seahawks managed to pick up the blitz and the Skins' spy didn't bother to shift towards Miller until he had caught the ball and was sprinting down field.
   1185. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:17 PM (#4340305)
How do you go into a playoff game with a banged up QB and have only two QBs on the active roster?
   1186. JJ1986 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:18 PM (#4340306)
DPI?
   1187. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:19 PM (#4340307)
That's why you blitz.
   1188. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:19 PM (#4340308)
[1181] You just can't take that many hit on running plays, and have a long career, can you?

Its too bad, because I enjoy some of the diversity of style of college FB, and its less fun to see half of, say, Johnny Manziel's potential evaporate because that doesn't work for a football career.
   1189. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:20 PM (#4340309)
[1187] Hah. Point. Are there stats on 3rd-and-10 blitz vs. non-blitz? I'm not familiar with "advanced" football stats.
   1190. DKDC Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:21 PM (#4340311)
Well Cousins just gave Shanahan some cover.

Second guessing RG3 starting this game is silly, but it's definitely fair to ask what they new about RG3s injury at half time and why they didn't make the switch then.
   1191. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:21 PM (#4340312)
[1186] Is the call that he wouldn't have caught it without being ankle-tackled before the ball got there?
   1192. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:23 PM (#4340314)
not to be a jerk but seattle has rushed for over 200 yards today

just saying
   1193. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:23 PM (#4340315)
[1181] You just can't take that many hit on running plays, and have a long career, can you?

Not if you are a barely armored tall person taking hits 280+ pound bruisers smashing into you at full speed and your skill rely mainly on your body being in good working shape. A running back can have a broken hand or a bruised forearm. A QB can't.
   1194. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:23 PM (#4340316)
Shanahan should get fired just for risking the franchise QB's health when it was blatantly obvious the QB wasn't able to do jack #### on the field. What a ####### #######.
   1195. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4340317)
Well Cousins just gave Shanahan some cover.


I don't see how. The offensive line completely melted down from the RGIII injury to the last 4th down. Cousins looked pretty good out there when given a chance.
   1196. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4340318)
GG, Redskins. And good call by Carroll. Wouldn't expect most coaches to make the obvious decision to go for it there.
   1197. JJ1986 Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4340319)
but it's definitely fair to ask what they new about RG3s injury at half time and why they didn't make the switch then.


They examined him after the 2nd TD, so they must have known he was injured. They were just hoping that 14 points would hold up and they wouldn't have to make any decision.
   1198. McCoy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4340320)
Shanahan should get fired just for risking the franchise QB's health when it was blatantly obvious the QB wasn't able to do jack #### on the field. What a ####### #######.

Should have pulled a Strasburg?
   1199. smileyy Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:27 PM (#4340321)
I think I would enjoy one-platoon football more, but I realize that its an impossibility. But maybe we'd lose out on guy who are great specialists who aren't successful going both ways.
   1200. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 06, 2013 at 08:29 PM (#4340324)
I think 10% of the people I follow on Twitter just said "This proves the Nationals made a wise decision to shut down Strasburg." WTF?
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