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OT: NFL/NHL thread

i estimate that absolutely noone gives a damn about the NHL, so by folding that thread into this one, we won’t distract from what this thread is really about: boner pills, blood doping (is it low t?), and…jesus christ did mike vick just throw another ####### interception?

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   1401. smileyy Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:28 PM (#4345846)
That was a lot of Peyton Manning play calling to lose a yard handing the ball off.
   1402. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4345847)
Only thing close to as bad in my memory is the end of this game last year.
   1403. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4345848)
Fox is going to punt because he wants neutral fans to hate him.
   1404. smileyy Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4345850)
Why is the delay of game called on the quarterback, and not the center? I mean, not that it matters.
   1405. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4345851)
How did Baltimore score points today? This is terrible offense. And another delay of game penalty.

EDIT: Nice timing, making me look bad.
   1406. smileyy Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:34 PM (#4345852)
I am astounded by the accuracy of the modern NFL quarterback.
   1407. Tripon Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:36 PM (#4345853)
This game will never end.
   1408. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:36 PM (#4345854)
Why is the delay of game called on the quarterback, and not the center? I mean, not that it matters.


Probably because the QB is the one who orders the snap, plus the center is in no position to see the play clock.
   1409. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4345856)
3rd and 1.....maybe Fox should punt now just so there's no chance of a lost fumble.
   1410. AuntBea Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4345857)
I have been waiting all year for Kaepernick to make that kind of mistake. Not the best time to do so.
   1411. Tripon Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4345858)
Oh my god.
   1412. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4345859)
It's been all Kaepernick, good and bad so far. Packers O hasn't touched the ball yet.
   1413. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4345860)
Did not expect something like that out of Manning.
   1414. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:44 PM (#4345863)
I love Peyton Manning and would prefer the Broncos to win because of him; that being said I won't be too disappointed because #### John Fox
   1415. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4345864)
Did not expect something like that out of Manning.


That was Favre against the Saints in the NFC Championship Game bad.
   1416. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:46 PM (#4345866)
I'm torn. I have a friend who is a die-hard Ravens fan. But, well, you know, Ray Lewis and all.
   1417. Tripon Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4345867)
And its over, its all over.
   1418. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4345868)
That was Favre against the Saints in the NFC Championship Game bad.


I refuse to believe that anyone can equal Brett Favre for monumentally stupid decisions in key spots.
   1419. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4345871)
I refuse to believe that anyone can equal Brett Favre for monumentally stupid decisions in key spots.


It was a terrible throw and Favre-esque. I really think Manning showed his age in the 4th and OT.
   1420. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:53 PM (#4345872)
What a game. One of the best I've seen.

I'm torn. I have a friend who is a die-hard Ravens fan. But, well, you know, Ray Lewis and all.


Root for Ed Reed. HOFer with no ring.
   1421. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:54 PM (#4345874)
Root for Ed Reed. HOFer with no ring.


Maybe. But then Ray Rice does crap like to the "Mile High Salute" to taunt Denver fans. Class up a little, Little Buddy.
   1422. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 09:58 PM (#4345876)
Maybe. But then Ray Rice does crap like to the "Mile High Salute" to taunt Denver fans. Class up a little, Little Buddy.


I'll give him a pass on that one. He was just really excited they actually gave him the ball.
   1423. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:01 PM (#4345877)
James Jones. WOW.

To think his first few years, you could pencil him in for a few boneheaded drops.
   1424. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM (#4345880)
Jones had a pretty bad drop late in the game. Made up for it, though.

EDIT: Wrong Jones. Brain not used to watching football.
   1425. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM (#4345882)

I have been waiting all year for Kaepernick to make that kind of mistake. Not the best time to do so.


I actually think it was just a bad throw that sailed inside... not a bad decision. He has had a couple other ducks, too.
Hopefully it was just his "Ron Weasley" moment.

What a redonkulous catch by Jones. Can't stop that.
   1426. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:14 PM (#4345883)
Oh, geez. Need double agent Kaepernick to help out on this one in a non-obvious way, if possible.

EDIT: Nope. Looks like this will another back-and-forth shootout, like the afternoon game.
   1427. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:25 PM (#4345888)
Not sure Brown should catch that, better to make them punt when you are looking in the correct direction when you have the ball. Got a decent return though, so I won't look gift picks in the mouth.
   1428. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:27 PM (#4345889)
What a game. One of the best I've seen.

Best postseason game since the first Giants-Patriots Super Bowl, and one of the best I've seen in the past 61 NFL seasons. All those ties and spectacular plays are tough to top, and the sub-zero wind chill only added to the drama. Of course the Ravens winning was the most important thing.

And yeah, I can't see all those first down up-the-middle Rice plunges, either. The only thing I can figure is that they were trying to eat up some time in order to give the defense a breather. But what the ####, all's well that ends well.
   1429. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM (#4345892)
Best postseason game since the first Giants-Patriots Super Bowl


That game was crap until the 4th quarter, it was the worst Brady Super Bowl. The Panthers and Rams ones were the best.
   1430. JJ1986 Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:34 PM (#4345895)
I thought the Ravens/Steelers game 2 years ago was better than this.
   1431. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:39 PM (#4345899)
The only thing bad about Broncos / Ravens was too much reffy-ness. Not just questionable calls but all sorts of "too close to call".

I can't even say who got the worst of it... Denver I think.
   1432. Tripon Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM (#4345904)
The 2nd quarter shown why you want a mobile qb.
   1433. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM (#4345905)
Last year's Broncos-Steelers game was pretty spectacular, though I'm biased as the world's last non-Bayless Tebow fan.
   1434. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4345907)
I've never seen Kaepernick play live. His physical ability is breathtaking.
   1435. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4345908)
We might have the first chance for a FG soon, which neither team can be really comfortable with.
   1436. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM (#4345910)
Kaepernick is now over 100 yards rushing in the first half. Yikes.
   1437. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM (#4345921)
@1434 He is actually usually more accurate than he has been today.
   1438. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4345923)
Best postseason game since the first Giants-Patriots Super Bowl

That game was crap until the 4th quarter, it was the worst Brady Super Bowl.


I gather you're a Patriots fan. (smile)

The Panthers and Rams ones were the best.

Since I know you can't be referring to the Panthers-Eagles, I can only suppose you meant the Titans-Rams. I'd put that one pretty high up there myself, since the dramatic final play was the football version of the last out of the 1962 World Series.

-------------------------------------------------

I thought the Ravens/Steelers game 2 years ago was better than this.

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Last year's Broncos-Steelers game was pretty spectacular, though I'm biased as the world's last non-Bayless Tebow fan.

Well, in truth there've been probably a dozen or more "best" playoff / championship games since I've been following the NFL, depending on your rooting interest, whether you like shootouts or defensive battles, whether you give bonus points for big upsets or interesting field conditions, and whether you downgrade a game for sloppy play or turnovers. There's no objective way to compare them, since you're bound to be subjective about what you call "objective".

I thought the matchup of an 18-0 team against a team that'd been on the road the entire postseason and had almost upset the 18-0 team in the final game of the regular season set the stage, and that the back-and-forth nature of a game that went from a defensive battle to an offensive duel in the final quarter made it easily the best overall Super Bowl from a narrative POV. But if you thrown out the buildup to the game and put both teams in blank jerseys, then yeah, it probably wouldn't be more than somewhere in the top half dozen.
   1439. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM (#4345927)
Hard to believe Ed Reed doesn't have a Super Bowl ring. I thought he had been on the Ravens almost as long as Ray Lewis. They won the title in 2001! Time flies
   1440. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM (#4345929)
This has been a bizzaro game but not totally inexplicable.

Rodgers only 50% and aside from a miracle catch they have been mostly stymied. But averaging 5 ypc on the ground!
The Niners with a huge play advantage 50:20 but less YPP, which is absolutely atypical. Kaepernick doesn't usually run this much, either.

I think the defenses are dictating to the offense. The Niners are almost always in Nickle and until Justin Smith got hurt they were pretty awesome at stopping the run in Nickle. Today they are less stout up front.

The Packers are clearly keying on Gore and making the Niners throw - and it would work except for the lack of qb spy in man coverage .

The Delanie Walker drops are totally typical, however.

The two wretched turnovers offset, but the Niners penalties and a couple big plays have kept the Packers right in it.

It will be interesting to see how a rested Niner defense is in the 2nd half. The only games where the Niners had this kind of play imablance were the blowouts of the Bills and Jets.

   1441. JJ1986 Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4345930)
The Ravens Super Bowl was in 2001 (the 2000 season). I'm not sure when Reed was drafted, but he was on the 2001 Miami Hurricanes.
   1442. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM (#4345933)
Much-maligned FG kickers 2-2 this game, although neither attempt was super-difficult.
   1443. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM (#4345934)
Akers hasn't been awful below 40 yards, merely below average (with a couple blocks). He has been awful in the 40-45 range.
   1444. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM (#4345935)
I gather you're a Patriots fan. (smile)


Nope. In fact I was kind rooting for the Giants in that game. It just plain stunk for 3 quarters.

Since I know you can't be referring to the Panthers-Eagles, I can only suppose you meant the Titans-Rams. I'd put that one pretty high up there myself, since the dramatic final play was the football version of the last out of the 1962 World Series.


I am referring to the Patriots-Rams and Patriots-Panthers Super Bowls. Much, much better games. It seems that you are letting one play or quarter define a whole game.
   1445. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:36 PM (#4345937)
WOW. WOOOOWOWOWOW.
   1446. NTNgod Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM (#4345938)
Kaepernick is SO not going to get comp tickets to Brewer games next season if he keeps this up.
   1447. DKDC Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:39 PM (#4345939)
The option will never work in the NFL.

Just you wait.
   1448. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM (#4345941)
What is the all-time single game rushing record in the playoffs?
   1449. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM (#4345943)
Eric Dickerson, 248 yards.
   1450. AuntBea Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM (#4345944)
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   1451. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:46 PM (#4345945)
The option will never work in the NFL.

Just you wait.


The jury is still out if it will work long term. It'll take a few seasons. But for now, keep piling it on if you're SF.
   1452. steagles Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:46 PM (#4345946)
The option will never work in the NFL.

Just you wait.
well, it works just fine when you can cheat by having a QB that can actually throw the ball, too.
   1453. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM (#4345948)
Crabtree might be one of the best receivers in the game with Kaep as QB.

Thanks for the Dickerson info.
   1454. AuntBea Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM (#4345949)
Most rushing yards by a quarterback, game: 173, Michael Vick 12-1-2002

Is that the all time record?
   1455. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM (#4345950)
I continue to be befuddled why Davis doesn't catch more passes.
   1456. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM (#4345951)
Damn, I'm enjoying this game.
   1457. zenbitz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM (#4345953)

I continue to be befuddled why Davis doesn't catch more passes.


He is double covered most every single down he is not kept in to block. He is actually the primary reason for Crabtree's big breakout, and why Kaepernick throws to stone hands Delanie Walker 6 times / game.
   1458. DKDC Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM (#4345954)
After 4 terrible games last weekend, what a delight today.
   1459. DKDC Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM (#4345955)
The jury is still out if it will work long term. It'll take a few seasons. But for now, keep piling it on if you're SF.


If the naysayers are going to crow when RG3 blows out his knee, I'm going to crow after a game like this.
   1460. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:57 PM (#4345956)
The Niners are doing this without their No. 2 receiver.
   1461. zenbitz Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4345957)
@1454 - that appears to be the all-time record. I couldn't figure out how get this from pro-football-reference you can only filter on position for whole seasons.
   1462. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4345958)
I think Kaepernick has already set the QB playoff rushing record.
   1463. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4345959)
Jennings almost caught that ball but I think he should have been called for pushing off.
   1464. zenbitz Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4345960)
Kaepernick has taken fewer hits than Rodgers today, I think.
   1465. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:03 AM (#4345961)
I think Kaepernick has already set the QB playoff rushing record.

I have no idea whether this is true or not but Buck said he broke it in the first half when he had like 80 yards.
   1466. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM (#4345963)
Google says that Vick had a 119 yards in a playoff game.
   1467. zenbitz Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM (#4345964)
It's hard to get numbers on this, but I am pretty confident that the Niners have not used the Read-Option this much. I think they've run about 12.
   1468. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:07 AM (#4345965)
It's hard to get numbers on this, but I am pretty confident that the Niners have not used the Read-Option this much. I think they've run about 12.

True. Way more than usual.
   1469. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM (#4345968)
With the way Akers has kicked, I agree with this.
   1470. booond Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:12 AM (#4345969)
Vick 119, McNabb 107 were the only two QBs with over 100 yards rushing before today in a playoff game.
   1471. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:16 AM (#4345971)
This is unreal. Kaepernick has 446 yards of total offense to go with two touchdown passes and two rushing touchdowns.
   1472. DA Baracus Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:20 AM (#4345973)
This is unreal. Kaepernick has 446 yards of total offense to go with two touchdown passes and two rushing touchdowns.


Imagine how he'd do if he didn't have all those tattoos.
   1473. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:20 AM (#4345974)
49ers set a team playoff record for total yards. This is the team that scored 49 and 55 points in the Super Bowl.
   1474. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:26 AM (#4345976)
Well regarded coach and QB, and they're still throwing 10 yard passes to the middle of the field down 21 with 3 minutes left. Those routes shouldn't even be in the playbook as safety nets at this point. It's so aggravating.
   1475. NTNgod Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:30 AM (#4345979)
The Packers' two most frustrating losses of the season involve the 2011 Badgers QB and a Cheesehead who's a lifelong Packers/Brewers fan (who might face off against one another in the NFC Championship game)

Universe has a funny sense of humor.
   1476. nick swisher hygiene Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:35 AM (#4345982)
Who would dump instant replay if they could--or scale it back radically? Or come up with some other way to get the gameplay/other stuff ratio back to something remotely reasonable??

I mean, who could watch a contemporary NFL game without going crazy, unless they could screw around on the internet?

   1477. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:36 AM (#4345983)
Huh?
   1478. zenbitz Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:40 AM (#4345985)
Who would dump instant replay if they could--or scale it back radically? Or come up with some other way to get the gameplay/other stuff ratio back to something remotely reasonable??


Actually what works best is to just DVR the game and watch it on about a 15 minute delay. I would have done it with this one, but I can hear the fog horns blow when the 49ers score from my couch so I get spoilers.

Also, last week in Hawaii while walking around in the lava with my 8 year old son in his Alex Smith #11 Jersey, a Vikings fan asked my what I thought of the quarterback switch. I guess he knows, now.
   1479. Howie Menckel Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM (#4345990)

"Best postseason game since the first Giants-Patriots Super Bowl"

I was at this Super Bowl, and frankly the lack of buzz in the stands for 3 quarters was amazing. Now, Super Bowls have a lot of stuffed shirts in the crowd so they are not like conference title games, but this one particularly lacked energy for that time frame. That all changed, of course.
:)

As for that regular season game, the Patriots regained the lead early in the 4th and they led by 10 from about the 5-minute mark until a minute left, when the Giants scored to make it 38-35. The onside kick failed and that was it. The unbeaten thing added to the aura, but I don't know too many people who were shocked when the Patriots reasserted control.
   1480. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 13, 2013 at 02:13 AM (#4346007)
15 minute delay? You'll be caught up to real life after the first touchdown, with all the commercial breaks and timeouts and other standing around. Maybe a 90 minute delay.
   1481. zenbitz Posted: January 13, 2013 at 03:29 AM (#4346026)
No, it's about 15 minutes per half. Maybe 20. So you have to hit pause and waste time for 15 minutes at halftime.
   1482. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 13, 2013 at 04:18 AM (#4346029)
Everyone is blaming the Broncos' secondary for the blown coverage and Peyton Manning for the INT.

John Fox deserves as much or more blame than them.

1. Near the end of regulation Fox needed one first down to end the game, and he wouldn't let Peyton throw, choosing instead to rely on
his defense, which Flacco had already burned twice.

2. Then Fox takes a knee with 31 seconds left and 2 timeouts in regulation. Oof. You cannot give up a possession there. They are so
critical. That was a chance to win the game with a FG. Given up for nothing.
   1483. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 13, 2013 at 04:20 AM (#4346031)
I was initially rooting for the Packers, but great game for SF. This Kaepernick is fun to watch.
   1484. Tripon Posted: January 13, 2013 at 04:28 AM (#4346033)
John Fox's play calling was just weird. He coached the 4th and OT like he had a huge lead. Did he even realize that he needed to score points to win the game?
   1485. Tripon Posted: January 13, 2013 at 04:43 AM (#4346035)
Even after the Baltimore Ravens rather miraculously came up with a game-tying touchdown late in the fourth quarter Saturday, the host Broncos had a chance to take the game in regulation.

Peyton Manning at quarterback, 31 seconds and two timeouts left, needing 40 yards or so to be able to take a shot at a game-winning field goal.

And so the Broncos … took a knee?

“You don’t win, you get criticized on everything, so that’s par for the course,” Denver coach John Fox said after the game. “Thirty seconds, it’s hard to go the length of the field, some bad stuff can happen — as you saw at the end of the game.”

What Fox seemed to be referencing there (though the time window is a bit off) is Manning’s brutal overtime interception, which set the stage for Baltimore to walk off a winner.



Gutless. I'd fire him right now for that decision. This may have been the best chance for the Broncos and Manning to win a superbowl and Fox pissed it away. Urgh.
   1486. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: January 13, 2013 at 08:25 AM (#4346047)
Everyone is blaming the Broncos' secondary for the blown coverage and Peyton Manning for the INT.

John Fox deserves as much or more blame than them.


Well, maybe not quite as much as Champ Bailey, but.....

1. Near the end of regulation Fox needed one first down to end the game, and he wouldn't let Peyton throw, choosing instead to rely on
his defense, which Flacco had already burned twice.

2. Then Fox takes a knee with 31 seconds left and 2 timeouts in regulation. Oof. You cannot give up a possession there. They are so
critical. That was a chance to win the game with a FG. Given up for nothing.


I have to agree with you on both counts there. When Manning came out for that last sequence and took a knee, I was screaming at the top of my lungs at the TV---with delight, of course. But if I'd been a Broncos fan I might have thrown a brick through the ####### screen.

OTOH you also have to give at least a bit of props to the Ravens defense. They were out there on the field for the great bulk of the afternoon, with the crowd 100% against them, and when all was said and done they allowed 21 points in 5+ quarters to an offense with an all-time great, likely MVP QB who'd been torching the league for the past three months. They sure as hell bent but they didn't break, and it was sweet payback for that game in Baltimore.

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I was initially rooting for the Packers, but great game for SF. This Kaepernick is fun to watch.

Is there a living soul outside Atlanta who's not rooting for a Seahawks-Niners rematch after what they saw last night? It's hard to believe that Aaron Rodgers can almost be considered "old news" when he just turned 29 and is coming off a terrific season, and even harder to believe that Colin Kaepernick has almost made everyone but Redskins fans forget Robert Griffin III, at least for a while.
   1487. McCoy Posted: January 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM (#4346071)
Kaepernick last night looked like what RGIII was supposed to be and what Vick used to be but better. Hopefully he stays healthy long enough for everyone to enjoy his abilities for years to come.
   1488. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:14 AM (#4346085)
As a public service announcement, I probably wont be online during the Falcons game today, so just to clear everything up early, the refs will ignore a hundred or so pass interferences on the Seattle secondary and every call should go Atlanta's way. Any call that does not is clear and obvious cheating and the refs have been bought.

Cheers,

s/
   1489. DA Baracus Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM (#4346086)
Everyone is blaming the Broncos' secondary for the blown coverage and Peyton Manning for the INT.


Fox and the play calling is getting plenty of blame. Did you even read the thread before posting that?

Is there a living soul outside Atlanta who's not rooting for a Seahawks-Niners rematch after what they saw last night?


There are many inside as well.
   1490. KronicFatigue Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:24 AM (#4346088)
The thing is, if you're afraid of Peyton throwing an INT with 30 seconds left in the game, you should be scared of him doing that at any point in the game and thus become a highschool football team that runs on first, second and third down. Yes, bad things COULD happen. Fox is absolutely admitting to making decisions based on not wanting to be blamed for the loss. He's wasn't coaching to win, he was coaching to not get fired.

It's Peyton f'n Manning. If there was one person in the entire world who I would trust with the decision to "try and move the ball down field, but don't be stupid and force it", it would be him.

I was rooting for Denver (and Peyton, and against Ray Lewis) up until that point, but then I turned. I can't root for someone who's not willing to even try to win.

15 minute delay? You'll be caught up to real life after the first touchdown, with all the commercial breaks and timeouts and other standing around. Maybe a 90 minute delay.


I'm not a huge fan of football, and I've become a little spoiled/desensitized by RedZone, but I've done the DVR thing to great success. There's two ways to watch, in my opinion. The first is where you give it a lot of cushion, and then watch the entire game with your hand on the remote. With some practice, you can cut out all the standing around time between plays. And even when it's 3rd and 16, you can go slightly faster through that play, presuming a failed attempt with the risk of having to rewind to appreciate the rare conversion.

The second option is to just fastfoward through commercials and long delays. In that case, you need less of a cushion and then I like to actually utilize the halftime break to rebuild the cushion (while I'm actually taking a break). This version is ideal when watching with people.

Sidenote for those with DVRS that aren't as awesome as tivos: adjust the length of your "jumps" for recorded programs. I have my forward button going a full minute ahead, but my rewind going 30 seconds. That way when I'm watching TV, i can keep taking long jumps forward through commercials, but when I see I've gone too far, it's easier to backtrack.
   1491. Tony S Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4346089)
Fox's decision to have the Broncos run on third-and-7 when a first down would have clinched the game was conservative and unpopular with Denver fans, but it wasn't completely indefensible -- there's an argument for bleeding as much of the clock as possible in that situation. The Ravens still had an 80-yard field, a minute-plus, and no timeouts. The downside of not making the first down was pretty much the same either way.

But Fox's decision to have Manning -- Peyton Manning -- take a knee with 31 seconds to go, two timeouts, and a 40-yard field was a serious headscratcher, to say the least.

Here's a strategic question -- with the new overtime rules this year, would it make sense to let the other team have the ball first if you win the toss? They need a touchdown to win, but if you stop them and get the ball back (which usually happens), all you need is a field goal. Wonder how the odds break on that one...
   1492. Ray (RDP) Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:32 AM (#4346091)
The defensive-minded coaches seem to take that knee more than the offensive-minded ones.
   1493. McCoy Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM (#4346093)
I'm not a huge fan of football, and I've become a little spoiled/desensitized by RedZone, but I've done the DVR thing to great success. There's two ways to watch, in my opinion. The first is where you give it a lot of cushion, and then watch the entire game with your hand on the remote. With some practice, you can cut out all the standing around time between plays. And even when it's 3rd and 16, you can go slightly faster through that play, presuming a failed attempt with the risk of having to rewind to appreciate the rare conversion.

My dad does this and it drives me absolutely crazy. Makes the game unwatchable in my opinion. He won't start watching the game until about the second quarter and then he'll hit the 30 second skip after every play and occasionally he'll miss a play or want to watch the play over again so that triggers a jump back, FF, rewind, skip forward rinse and repeat fest. Doing it this way will get you through to about the 4 minute mark in the 4th quarter and from that point on he'll watch it live. But by doing the 30 second skip function after every play the game basically feels like one very long and boring highlight show devoid of any drama or context. You can't process anything or think about anything. Whenever I visited my dad and it was game day I would be forced to watch the game on some little 13 inch screen in the guest bedroom because of my dad's antics with the DVR.
   1494. DA Baracus Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM (#4346094)
Here's a strategic question -- with the new overtime rules this year, would it make sense to let the other team have the ball first if you win the toss?


You gain nothing this way. You are still required to stop them in either scenario. And now the pressure to score is on you if the team with the opening possession scores. The rule got enacted because the Saints kicked a FG in OT and Favre never got the ball. But that was only the third time that had ever happened.
   1495. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM (#4346099)
Kaepernick has started 8 games in the NFL. The Niners have won match-ups against Brady in NE, Brees in NO, and Rodgers in SF in the span of those 8 games. That ain't bad.

Aldon Smith has not had a sack 4 games. That's worrisome to me.

   1496. DA Baracus Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM (#4346102)
   1497. McCoy Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:05 PM (#4346105)
   1498. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM (#4346109)
Kaepernick has started 8 games in the NFL. The Niners have won match-ups against Brady in NE, Brees in NO, and Rodgers in SF in the span of those 8 games. That ain't bad.

Put up either Kaepernick or Wilson in the Super Bowl against a QB who's outplayed Brady, Luck and Peyton Manning in his last three playoff games, and that could be one for the ages. The biggest bummer of all would be New England against Atlanta, tops seed or not.
   1499. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM (#4346114)
When sponsorships go wrong.

What stadium is that? Atlanta?
   1500. stanmvp48 Posted: January 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM (#4346120)
What gets me about NFl officiating are the lengthy discussions about every call. This is a relatively new development. On one occasion Manning fumbled and Balt recovered. There were two penalties on B however; once the officials spent 5 minutes discussing it; they ruled that B kept the ball because of the penalty but only marked it off from the end of the play because it was a turnover. On replay it was fairly obvious that PM's knee was down before the fumble which would have changed the way the penalty was marked off. Couldn't Fox have challenged that.
They gave Harbaugh about 5 minutes to decide whether to challenge the Denver first down at the two minute warning of the first half.

Then there was the non tuck rule call; the boldin drop, the interference on the pick six in the first quarter (not to mention holding on a different DB)

Then there was John Fox's belief that you are required to run up the middle on every 3rd and one. And the kneel down at the end of regulation.
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