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OT: NHL is finally back thread

Now that the season has finally started it’s time to break from the NFL thread.

Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: January 21, 2013 at 01:09 PM | 1685 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1201. zack Posted: June 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM (#4475999)
Also I think they should get fined for smashing sticks, especially carbon fibre ones. Although there is little sweeter than when they make Mike Smith smash his goal stick.
   1202. Snowboy Posted: June 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM (#4476004)
I'm not going to change my opinion on a guy because of one play.
But it's too bad that Boychuck's hit on Toews looks dirty, because he has enough skill and strength that he doesn't need to play like that.
And it's too bad Frolik went at Krug at the end of the game like that, because I thought he was one of the best forwards for Chicago tonight, in both directions. (And he got away with it too: that's a clear penalty, and Boston should have finished the game 6-on-4)

I thought Kane and Sharp were the only better forwards for Chicago. Kane going to the net led to his two goals. Bickell also had a strong game.

I don't agree with CBC picking Lucic as the third star tonight. He had his second bad game in a row tonight. A number of turnovers just because of a stick-check, a couple of giveaways, and he didn't knock Toews hard enough off the puck which created the chance that led to the first goal of the game. Yes, he registered some hits. But they are often after the guy has already passed away the puck.
   1203. zack Posted: June 22, 2013 at 11:18 PM (#4476008)
"Went at Krug"? How did he "go at" him? He hit the puck and then couldn't get the stick back before it tripped Krug.

And I don't ascribe any malice to Boychuck, that's just the unfortunate side effect of the cross-check being taught as the primary way to clear players.
   1204. Snowboy Posted: June 22, 2013 at 11:35 PM (#4476014)
It looked like Frolik stuck his leg out on Krug, to me, and maybe a can-opener stick move. I don't have a PVR to review it again, sry.

Toews should have been more ready for contact in front of the net. But before that Boychuck should have turned his shoulder into him. If you hit a guy with your hands/stick at the level of his name patch or higher, that's dirty. (Just my opinion.)
   1205. zack Posted: June 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM (#4476017)
It looked like Frolik stuck his leg out on Krug, to me, and maybe a can-opener stick move. I don't have a PVR to review it again, sry.

The NBC feed showed the replay from the near side (here's the CBC version from the far side). He does stick out his leg, which is a dick move, fortunately not knee on knee. He also gets the puck with his stick and knocks it back to Bolland, it's not a can opener.

As for Toews, I don't know what exactly he is supposed to do when he's checked from behind while trying to score. There's literally nothing he could do other than give up on the play. He cut through two Bruins, trys to recover the puck for the shot, and then is blindsided by Boychuck.
   1206. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: June 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM (#4476106)
not even a fine for the hit by Boychuk. not surprised shanny is useless in his role
   1207. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: June 24, 2013 at 02:25 AM (#4476497)
So much going on in Hockey right now, I really am surprised they dont make teams wait til after the cup finals to be making the moves they are making. that said, looks like toronto has gotten themselves a pretty good goalie
   1208. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 12:16 PM (#4476665)
Aww, didn't pass the lottery for draft tickets. Not sure that I'd go if I had won, so, whatevs.
   1209. BurlyBuehrle Posted: June 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM (#4476671)
Re 1207

Not sure Bernier is that much (if any) upgrade over Reimer...and they did give up what could be some useful pieces to get him.
   1210. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: June 24, 2013 at 01:23 PM (#4476717)
Everyone's already said how much of a joke the suspension/non-suspension decisions end up being. But it is consistent with other calls so far this postseason (Bolland on Richards, Brown on someone on the Hawks last round, etc...). I think it's clear the league isn't serious about trying to prevent head injuries, but they want to give an impression that they are. Otherwise, it really wouldn't matter if it were the playoffs or the regular season.

It's worth noting whether or not Boychuck was targeting Toews' head, he wasn't the only guy to hit Toews in the head that game. I'm not going to say that's a team decision or strategy or not, cause even if so it's not just one team that is doing it and it's not like any team is above reproach. But if the league wanted to, they could clean a lot of that up.
   1211. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 07:52 PM (#4477023)
In Canada the most popular fast restaurant is named for a hockey player. Tim Hortons is a chain with 3500 locations across the country, and accounts for 20-25% of all fast food revenues. The franchise started out as a single restaurant in Hamilton, serving coffee and doughnuts, opening in 1964 and owned by Toronto Maple Leafs defenseman Tim Horton. Horton played in 24 seasons in the NHL, from 1950 until his death in a car accident in 1974, while driving home from a game. He played in six Stanley Cup finals (winning it four times) and was selected to seven All-Star teams. When he died he was ranked third in regular season games played.

Although they have expanded their menu recently to serve more food items, Tim Hortons is still a very poular coffee shop, selling 62% of Canada's coffee (Starbucks is second at 7%) As an homage to the ubiquitous "Timmies" Canadian comedian Mike Myers created the fictional "Stan Mikita's Donuts" in the movie "Wayne's World." Mikita played 22 seasons in the NHL, all of it with Chicago. He appeared in the Stanley Cup finals five times (winning it once)(that 1961 victory was the only one for the Hawks between 1938 and 2010.) Mikita earned the Art Ross Trophy for most points in a season four times, and was named league MVP and given the Hart Trophy twice. He won the Lady Byng twice for his sportsmanship, and was in nine All-Star games. When he retired in 1980 he was behind only Gordie Howe and Phil Esposito (and Bobby Hull, if you combine NHL+WHA) in career regular season points, and behind only Jean Beliveau and Howe in playoff points. I've heard that Mikita actually had a speaking line or two in Wayne's World, but that it ended up on the cutting room floor, and that Myers was disappointed by this.
   1212. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:11 PM (#4477036)
I sure know of Tim Horton's but didn't realize who he was.

These vague injuries are funny. Do they not want to get specific because the opponents will then target that body part?

Does anyone have any idea where Toews or Bergeron are hurt?

   1213. Flynn Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:17 PM (#4477037)
Horton was one of the best and toughest stay at home defensemen of all time (he had a legendary rib-crushing bear hug that he would use in fights). A bedrock of the 60s Leaf teams that bookended the Habs mini-dynasty.

One of my favorite things in hockey is that it can accommodate old guys who want to play but don't have the gas for 20-25 minutes a game. Horton was still a good player at 44 when he passed away.
   1214. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:20 PM (#4477042)
I want my whole 7 games!
   1215. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:29 PM (#4477049)
Also, it was 95 degrees in Boston today, just a wretched day. Hope they have the AC up in the Garden, I could see the ice getting soupy. Though now it's thunderstorming like mad, thank goodness.
   1216. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:31 PM (#4477050)
Didn't Horton die in part because he was driving a unsafe supercar given to him by the Sabres owner? I want to say something like a Detamaso Pantera, but this whole story is coming out of some lost dungeon of my mind.
   1217. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:33 PM (#4477052)
That was a big hit on Bickell, looked like a shoulder to the face.

Jagr looks shaken up too.
   1218. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:34 PM (#4477053)
Bruins are definitely hopped up on juju beans, which is exactly what you'd expect coming home down 3-2.
   1219. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:35 PM (#4477054)
Bruins are playing well so far; kept out by a great, great save right there from Crawford.
   1220. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:37 PM (#4477056)
BOSTON!
   1221. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:37 PM (#4477058)
Great execution to turn a happy bounce into an easy goal.
   1222. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:39 PM (#4477060)
Bruins are definitely hopped up on juju beans, which is exactly what you'd expect coming home down 3-2.


The crowd's even more hopped up.
   1223. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:39 PM (#4477061)
Frolik is not the guy you want on a breakaway. Unless it's a playoff penalty shot.
   1224. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4477062)
Boston seems like they really want to take another flight to Chicago.
   1225. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:43 PM (#4477066)
It was a Pantera. I didn't know the Sabres owner gave it to him?
Growing up, there was a picture of Horton skating in his Sabres uniform in every Tim Hortons. I never understood why, since Horton had played 20 of his seasons for Toronto. Then I found out that he had died while driving home from a game that he had just played for the Sabres. The game was in Toronto, and he was driving himself home to Buffalo. It was late at night, and I think the story goes that it was raining. He was drunk and speeding, and had a single car accident.
   1226. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:48 PM (#4477069)
WTF? There's no way in hell they have SIXTEEN scoring chances already, NBC.
   1227. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:50 PM (#4477071)
Yeah, that seems like 4-5 too many. Still, this is the most dominant either team has been all series with the exception of the first period of game 2 that the Hawks similarly dominated.
   1228. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:52 PM (#4477074)
Hopefully Shaw wasn't actually knocked out there, yeesh.

There was an awesome play a minute ago where Keith pinched to pop the puck deep, Boychuck hit him, and Keith used the energy from the hit to glide back to the blue line rather than skating back.
   1229. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:54 PM (#4477075)
Ow, there's blood on the ice there. Shaw's going to at least need stitches.

eta: He does look like he was out cold. Hope he's not hurt too bad, that was a scary puck to the face.
   1230. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 08:56 PM (#4477080)
Keith was useless on that goal.
   1231. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:02 PM (#4477085)
What happened to Hjalmarsson? High stick?
   1232. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:02 PM (#4477087)
The condition of the ice is shameful.
   1233. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:02 PM (#4477088)
Wow I thought that was a goal on the PP. How did Krecji miss that?
   1234. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4477091)
This poor ice is no place to play a Stanley cup game. If this was the old "Gaaaden", that's one thing, but I'd think they could get better climate control in this place.

I know, they don't plan for 95 degree days.
   1235. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:06 PM (#4477094)
Keith was useless on that goal.


I thought there had been a second goal, and that the NBCSports stream was a lot further behind than just a few seconds.

The condition of the ice is shameful.


It was 95 degrees here today, muggy as all hell. I'm not shocked that the ice sucks.

eta: I think there's only so much you can do in 95 degree weather with 18k+ people in the arena. Hopefully it gets better as time goes by and the thunderstorms cool things off and take away some of the insane humidity. Of course, it's going to be 93 tomorrow, so it's not like it'll get that cool.
   1236. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:07 PM (#4477096)
From the Hawks point of view, hopefully this is a repeat of Game 2.

Shaw's dead, Hjalmarsson is hurt and Leddy has played 44 seconds.
   1237. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4477097)
Hjalmarsson high sticked and slough footed.
And I agree, this ice is having an effect on the game.
But only 1-0 after that amount of domination?
I think Toews was hearing bells in the third last game, and although he's on the ice tonight he's chasing the game.
   1238. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4477098)
I thought there had been a second goal, and that the NBCSports stream was a lot further behind than just a few seconds.


My bad.
   1239. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:15 PM (#4477103)
That was definitely the most dominant period by either team all series. I can't easily figure out the Corsi or Fenwick, since I dunno how many shots Boston had on the powerplay, but Boston has 32 S.O.G./Missed/Blocked shots to the Hawks 8.

My bad.


Oh, no worries! I was just really excited for another goal that didn't happen. :)

eta: Now my concern is that the Bruins only got one goal for all that, and there's no way that they can sustain even half this dominance all game.
   1240. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4477107)
Weak call, but dumb by Shaw.
   1241. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4477108)
That's two borderline penalties called on Chicago.
Jagr to the dressing room.
   1242. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4477109)
Shaw is back on the ice? Damn. His dome is made of iron, he took a slapshot off his cheekbone!
   1243. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:26 PM (#4477111)
Handzus is looking very...Handzusian this game.

RE: Shaw: No, just empty...
   1244. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:27 PM (#4477112)
dumb by Shaw


Boston has been scrumming worse than that after the whistle in this series. It's just not a penalty.
What hand pass?
Come on zebras get in the game.
   1245. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:28 PM (#4477113)
####.
   1246. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:28 PM (#4477114)
Well, Bruins just surrendered the entire first period to that. They need to find that gear again.
   1247. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:28 PM (#4477116)
Was that shorthanded? I thought there were only 4 on the face-off, but it was right when it would have expired.
   1248. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4477117)
OH FOR ##### SAKE!
   1249. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4477118)
AND THAT'S WHY YOU SCORE MORE THAN ONE GOAL WHEN YOU DOMINATE A PERIOD!
   1250. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4477119)
It's just not a penalty.


Don't disagree - but Shaw should know better than being the first guy to do that. He should be instigating to take that punch, not throw it.
   1251. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:30 PM (#4477120)
Just missed being a shorty.
   1252. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4477121)
Argh, that was a crazy frustrating powerplay. We ####### look like the Blackhawks!
   1253. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4477122)
Really horrible turnover by Hossa there.

Looking like the Bruins spent all their afterburner on the first period. Not that they are playing poorly, but they aren't everywhere* like they were.

*Gary Oldman style.
   1254. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:34 PM (#4477123)
Hossa is definitely the most bothered by his injury. He hasn't contributed much on either end all series.
   1255. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:35 PM (#4477125)
Yeah re: Hossa. Two terrible turnovers there, in your own zone, after you killed a penalty but there are 3 D on the ice. You gotta take care of the puck and get a change there.
   1256. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:37 PM (#4477127)
Hossa is definitely the most bothered by his injury. He hasn't contributed much on either end all series.

Since the injury I'll agree with that weakly, but without him Game 1 doesn't go to OT. He made about four HUGE defensive plays in that game.
   1257. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:37 PM (#4477128)
Looking like the Bruins spent all their afterburner on the first period. Not that they are playing poorly, but they aren't everywhere* like they were.


They're playing well, they just can't get any ####### goals. It's pretty much impossible to have multiple periods like the first period against a good team, much less a very good to great team like Chicago.
   1258. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4477129)
Clearly they are shooting blocker side too much...
   1259. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4477131)
Man, Stahlberg isn't a small guy, but he looked like a 9 year old bouncing off his teen brother.
   1260. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:43 PM (#4477136)
Got to give Chicago credit, they've corralled this game.
   1261. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4477137)
Shaw loses the helmet and is bleeding again. I think from the stiches.
   1262. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:46 PM (#4477138)
More horrible lack of movement without the puck, but they came damn close to scoring anyway.
   1263. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4477139)
That was a great opportunity early in the PP for Chicago.
   1264. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:49 PM (#4477144)
I'm frankly surprised that the Bruins haven't abused the rule book more, given the complete lack of threat that is the Blackhawks power play. Maybe they don't want to give them too much practice?

Other than some unnecessary contact after the whistle they've played a very clean series.
   1265. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4477146)
Other than some unnecessary contact after the whistle they've played a very clean series.


I'm surprised there hasn't been more from Marchand, actually. He's a born son-of-a-#####. The rest of the Bruins are physical, but not that dirty.
   1266. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 09:55 PM (#4477149)
Heh. I think Toews doesn't want to end the playoffs with 3 goals, based on that last rush.
   1267. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:13 PM (#4477161)
We've got a Gretzky fan pitching for the Dodgers tonight. #99
   1268. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM (#4477166)
Keith has been trying that 70 footer ever since he scored on Quick with it.
   1269. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM (#4477167)
I lost power with 2 minutes left in the 2nd, just got to a bar in time for the 3rd. ####### Dorchester.
   1270. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM (#4477168)
I think we're at the "no more penalties" stage. One of those long keeps by Boston was caused by a Bruin chicken winging Kruger's stick for a good ten seconds.
   1271. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM (#4477169)
Shaw with a triple-axel embellishment didn't get the memo.
   1272. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM (#4477171)
On the plus side, the second bar i went to has everyone watching the game.
   1273. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4477176)
Sooo....

Apparently, both Rask and Crawford have decided that they already gave the fans one game of high scoring pond hockey -- now it's back to lock down goaltending...
   1274. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4477179)
Bah. Arm, post, butt and in.
   1275. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4477180)
No, don't worry about covering anyone right in front of your goalie, again.
   1276. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4477181)
That was dreadful by Crawford/Keith/Hjalmarsson
   1277. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4477182)
damn

crawford set himself up for that one going bad
   1278. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:39 PM (#4477185)
Oh, if only this power play were meaningful.
   1279. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:40 PM (#4477186)
I really hate the fact that it's hard to get excited about a pp opportunity...
   1280. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM (#4477187)
Hawks doing their usual excellent job killing the power play... too bad it's their own.
   1281. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM (#4477188)
Bruins PK is very solid, but they've hardly had to try to kill these PPs
   1282. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4477189)
Oh ####.
   1283. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4477190)
Toews went down awkwardly there.
EDIT: Oh come on ref! Chara two-handed Toews head into the bar! Rozival gets a penalty for tapping Marchand, but that's not a penalty?
   1284. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:49 PM (#4477194)
####### JOHNNY TAZER!
   1285. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:49 PM (#4477195)
WOW
   1286. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM (#4477196)
HOW YOU LIKE (THE MAPLE LEAFS) NOW?!
   1287. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:51 PM (#4477197)
That...didn't make any sense. But you know what I meant.
   1288. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:51 PM (#4477198)
What a brutal collapse
   1289. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4477199)
Are you allowed to just make a human pyramid in the net?
   1290. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4477201)
Great series. Congratulations, Chicago.
   1291. Langer Monk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4477202)
Stunning. Absolutely stunning.
   1292. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4477203)
So, Crawford is Mr. Smythe, right?

Great friggin' series.
   1293. Bull Pain Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4477205)
Holy cow we did it!
   1294. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4477207)
Wow...

Just wow...

HERE COME THE HAWKS THE MIGHT-TEE BLACKHAWKS!
   1295. Snowboy Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4477208)
Really nice shift by Kane to set up that Bickell goal.
Boston had two chances to clear the puck.
Shot of Bickell's parents in the crowd after he scores.

And now Bolland! Knew it might take an unexpected player for Chicago. That's what can happen when you dominate but don't score like Boston in the first period. Wow.
   1296. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4477209)
I can't tell you how bummed I am. I really wanted to see a Stanley Cup parade right down the hear of the Back Bay where the bombs went off.

That was an epic collapse. Yeesh.
   1297. zonk Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4477210)
Hell of a series.

Hats off to Boston - the series felt like it deserved to go 7.

This series was a thing of beauty - a little something for everyone.

   1298. zack Posted: June 24, 2013 at 10:59 PM (#4477211)
Weird. Kane's not a horrible choice, but he'd be my third or fourth I think.
   1299. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 24, 2013 at 11:00 PM (#4477213)
How does that late game collapse taste, Boston!?

Aahahahahahahahaha!

/deranged Leafs fan
   1300. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM (#4477214)
Surprised that so many people are hanging around to watch this.
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