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OT: November College Football Thread.

Alabama Is still Ranked #1. Will they hold steady to repeat? Make it to the title game? Or does another team claim the Crystal ball in Miami in January.

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2701. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4337596)

Although, to be fair, UF does two things well. Defense, and kicking.

I would have said Defense and special teams.

Just like LSU, the offense wasn't much to speak of.

2702. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4337597)

And a penalty against Louisville! And it's meaningful!

2703. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4337598)

Louisville's field goal kicking is ####.

2704. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4337599)

Man, Louisville's kicking game REALLY sucks outside the 40. Huge penalty.

2705. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4337600)

A chop block on a field goal? I think this game has had every possible personal foul.

2706. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:05 AM (#4337601)

That's OK, ESPN. We don't need to see the chop block. Just move along. Not important at all.

2707. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:07 AM (#4337604)

That's OK, ESPN. We don't need to see the chop block. Just move along. Not important at all.

ESPN knows we all want to see coaches jawing at refs rather than replays of what happened on the field.

2708. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:10 AM (#4337607)

Wow, Louisville's offense keeps squandering opportunities, but Florida's offense keeps upping the ante.

2709. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:11 AM (#4337609)

One of the things Louisville struggled with this year is that they would penetrate on pass plays and miss the QB, giving up yards, or at least non-completions instead of getting sacks.

Not having that problem tonight.

2710. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:13 AM (#4337611)

This is a gigantic drive (obviously).

2711. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:14 AM (#4337612)

Great instincts by Easley to get his arms up in the throwing lane when he isn't even facing the QB.

2712. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:14 AM (#4337613)

Gotta be four-down territory here.

2713. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:14 AM (#4337614)

Louisville's O is doing everything they can to keep UF in the game since that last TD.

2714. cmd600 Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:15 AM (#4337615)

Oh, you were just trolling. My bad.

Right, pointing out the SEC's flippant excuses can only possibly be whining or trolling. Nothing else.

2715. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:15 AM (#4337616)

Louisville's O is doing everything they can to keep UF in the game since that last TD.

Give the special teams some credit.

2716. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:15 AM (#4337617)

I don't like UF running the Wildcat. Driskel's as good a runner as Burton, and whatever his myriad flaws as a passer, he's worlds ahead of Burton in that category.

2717. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:16 AM (#4337618)

In case anyone was wondering:

Louisville's Sagarin Predictor Ranking: 60
NIU: 36
Florida: 6

2718. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:18 AM (#4337620)

I don't like UF running the Wildcat. Driskel's as good a runner as Burton, and whatever his myriad flaws as a passer, he's worlds ahead of Burton in that category.

I completely agree. Especially a stretch play like that. That's a great way to have 11 guys all rushing the passer.

Huge reverse there, nice call.

2719. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:20 AM (#4337622)

Where has Jordan Reed been all night?

2720. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:21 AM (#4337623)

Big time players make big time plays!

2721. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:21 AM (#4337624)

Wow! WOW! And he got past the twenty. That is huge.

2722. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:21 AM (#4337625)

Andrew Johnson just impeached that Florida drive.

2723. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:24 AM (#4337627)

I kinda miss the "I don't care what down and distance it is, we're handing off to Gillislee" offense we saw in the LSU game.

2724. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:26 AM (#4337629)

I honestly don't even have the faintest idea what Florida's offensive gameplan was in this game. The only game of theirs I had watched start to finish was the FSU game and they looked to have a very punishing rushing attack.

2725. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:26 AM (#4337630)

Jesus, that kid's mom has AIDs. That makes it really hard to re-focus on the game for me.

2726. ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:27 AM (#4337631)

Unreal. I have yet to hear anyone say that the SEC isn't the best conference in football, but there are people getting stone cold butthurt over the fact that they're human. Every excuse imaginable is being made for why SEC were unlucky to lose games they got out gained and our scored.

You want to know why you're getting trolled? BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING RIDICULOUS.

The SEC is the deepest conference in football. But they're not the NFL. Other teams are good too. Lordy.

2727. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:29 AM (#4337632)

I'm pretty close to abandoning this for Fallout: New Vegas.

2728. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:29 AM (#4337634)

That was a huge recovery IMO. That wasn't down by contact.

2729. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:31 AM (#4337638)

The SEC is the deepest conference in football. But they're not the NFL. Other teams are good too. Lordy.

This is an uncharacteristically bad bowl season for them. It's pretty rare for two top ten SEC teams to lose OOC. Of course, that's part of what happens when you have 6 teams in the top ten I guess.

This never looked like the SEC of the past five seasons to most people around here, so it's not a huge surprise to see the conference vulnerable to good teams from other conferences. Of course, if they win the MNC on Monday, I think it won't matter much that UF and LSU lost.

2730. ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4337639)

Definitely a fumble. Heads up recovery.

2731. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:34 AM (#4337640)

Why is an ugly bald rapper named Pitbull all of a sudden in every song and commercial? Are the lyrics "In Brazil the women got big ol' boobies/And their thongs? Blue, yellow and green!" really so impressive?

2732. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:35 AM (#4337641)

Ooh, look at that.

2733. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:35 AM (#4337642)

I'm really glad Andre Debose hasn't been returning kicks all season.

2734. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:35 AM (#4337643)

And just like that it's a game again. That was a hell of a return.

2735. Howie Menckel Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:36 AM (#4337644)

I'm just thankful that writers and computers still select 2 teams to play for the title. I hate that messy part where less popular choices would have a chance to beat the teams that the cognoscenti anointed for the title game. It's so inconvenient.

2736. ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:36 AM (#4337645)

Thus is an uncharacteristically bad bowl season for them. It's pretty rare for two top ten SEC teams to lose OOC. Of course, that's part of what happens when you have 6 teams in the top ten I guess.

Because that's absurd. Six teams in the top 25 is more like it. They're the best, no doubt, but six top ten teams? These teams aren't choking, they're just playing like the top 15-25 teams they are. AND THAT'S OK.

2737. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:37 AM (#4337647)

Within two seconds, the same announcer said these two things: "Louisville did what they wanted to do on that kickoff." Then, "Debose was basically untouched." These two statements are, uh, kind of in conflict.

2738. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:40 AM (#4337651)

They're the best, no doubt, but six top ten teams? These teams aren't choking, they're just playing like the top 15-25 teams they are. AND THAT'S OK.

Yeah, those rankings were definitely a function of the schedule and their rep from previous seasons. Still, it looked like they would be able to maintain those rankings when the games were announced. It's nice to see Clemson and Louisville do their part to knock em down to a more realistic level.

2739. OCF Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:41 AM (#4337653)

Has Bridgewater made a successful throw since he started acting like his arm or shoulder is hurting?

2740. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:43 AM (#4337658)

Isn't Driskell a Weis recruit?

2741. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:45 AM (#4337660)

Isn't Driskell a Weis recruit?

Not really. He committed to Meyer, then stuck around after Urban left. Weis probably helped keep him.

Weis gets all the credit for UF's back-up, Jacoby Brissett.

2742. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:46 AM (#4337662)

And sorry for being a pedantic dickwad, but it's Driskel.

2743. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:48 AM (#4337664)

I don't think the SEC is better - top to bottom - than the Big 12 over the last half dozen years. They do generally have the best or second best team in the country though.

Statistical rankings like the Sagarin ranking aren't perfect, because of the limited number of games. But they do show that the top 6 from the SEC are legit top 10-12 teams. I think that's part of what makes this game so crazy. Louisville *isn't* that good. Florida has just been awful. Their rush defense and kicking has been good, but the discipline, pass defense, and offense have all been abysmal.

2744. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:48 AM (#4337665)

Fred Taylor's son is coming to Florida to play running back in the fall.

Just thought I'd mention that. Make some of us children of the 90's feel old.

2745. smileyy Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:50 AM (#4337667)

[2744] Is he out with a pulled groin yet?

2746. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4337668)

right, i knew that, sloppy typing, I have a client named Driskell.

btw: Sean's McD's repeated use of '[insert qb] running for his life' has replaced Ron Franklin's old call on a field goal every time of 'It's got the distance' (even if it didn't.) as the rolodex call of choice.

2747. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4337669)

Hopefully for the rest of football all of Travis Henry's kids aren't loyal to Florida.

2748. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4337670)

Just thought I'd mention that. Make some of us children of the 90's feel old.

Even better than that one, Torii Hunter's son is going to play college football next season.

2749. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:52 AM (#4337671)

Hopefully for the rest of football all of Travis Henry's kids aren't loyal to Florida.

That would be odd, as Henry went to Tennessee.

2750. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:53 AM (#4337672)

Louisville has not exactly looked convincing in putting this game away.

Wow, that QB sneak was stupid.

2751. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:53 AM (#4337673)

That would be odd, as Henry went to Tennessee.

#### it. It's the south.

2752. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4337674)

Even better than that one, Torii Hunter's son is going to play college football next season.

Fred Taylor is actually younger than Torii Hunter.

This is actually still kind of a game, huh.

2753. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4337675)

#### it. It's the south.

Florida's not the south. Just ask the south.

2754. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4337676)

Louisville has not exactly looked convincing in putting this game away.

They're still Big East members as far as I know.

2755. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4337677)

I can't quite grok this play-calling.

2756. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4337678)

Why is Florida running wild cat sweeps from the 1!? Why is ANYONE running wild cat sweeps from the 1?

2757. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4337679)

This is actually still kind of a game, huh.

According to my heart rate, yes it is.

2758. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4337680)

Somehow they saw that run play coming.

2759. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:56 AM (#4337681)

SACK! The play calling for Florida has finally killed them.

2760. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4337682)

I haven't seen a QB hold onto the ball like this since John Navarre.

2761. Brian White Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4337683)

Now it's no longer a game. Ah well. Congrats to the Louisville fans here.

2762. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4337684)

I was going to say this would be the second time an SEC team lost a Sugar Bowl 33-25, but never mind, unless there's a safety somehow. anybody have a guess as to the first time it happened.

2763. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4337685)

I haven't seen a QB hold onto the ball like this since John Navarre.

Sure, but if the left tackle is going to get so thoroughly abused, it's hard to place too much blame on Driskel.

2764. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:58 AM (#4337686)

I hope Louisville's Board of Trustees has a second dump truck full of money on call to head on over to Charlie Strong's house.

2765. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:00 AM (#4337688)

One thing is for sure. This humbling will be good in the long run for a lot of the Florida players.

2766. ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:00 AM (#4337689)

Florida looked a lot like LSU: a team that was great in a lot of ways but exploitably weak in others.

Styles make fights, and when the favorite has one or more big leaks, upsets are possible.

2767. ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:00 AM (#4337690)

EDIT: Double post

2768. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:01 AM (#4337691)

I don't care if we have to have a Weis contract, I want Charlie Strong coaching at Texas next year.

2769. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:02 AM (#4337692)

One thing is for sure. This humbling will be good in the long run for a lot of the Florida players.

agree with this, don't believe it ask Saban and Bama, or Spurrier and Florida or Fulmer and Tennessee after receiving big time whippings in bowl games.

2770. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:03 AM (#4337694)

I'd give $5 to be inside Muschamp's head right now.

2771. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:04 AM (#4337697)

I'd give $5 to be inside Muschamp's head right now.

so what your saying is you'd rather be in Charlie Strong's head, humming UT's fight song.

2772. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:06 AM (#4337699)

3-3 with 3 to go

2773. Every Inge Counts Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:07 AM (#4337700)

Sounds like we barely heard the dumbest chant during the end of the game: "Overrated"
Though it did mean we did not have to hear the second dumbest chant: S-E-C.

2774. Spivey Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:07 AM (#4337702)

Well that was fun. Hopefully the Fiesta is a good one. I think given what Baylor did to KSU's defense, Klein is going to need to have a great game to keep up with Oregon. Which he's capable of.

2775. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:09 AM (#4337703)

So Louisville plays absolutely no one out of conference next year. And their conference opponents will likely suck, a lot. Anyway they get MNC consideration if they go undefeated?

2776. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:10 AM (#4337704)

For reasons I can't prove (too lazy) I seem to think the Sugar Bowl was the first to have a title sponsor (USF&G).

2777. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:11 AM (#4337706)

There's some minor solace to be found in making the game relatively close at the end, I suppose. And I'm expecting good things out of Kent Taylor (the guy who scored UF's last TD).

2778. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:11 AM (#4337707)

So Louisville plays absolutely no one out of conference next year. And their conference opponents will likely suck, a lot. Anyway they get MNC consideration if they go undefeated?

If they can lose as a 40+ point home favorite to Syracuse with much better talent than this team, than they can lose next year, without even looking at their schedule.

2779. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:15 AM (#4337708)

If they can lose as a 40+ point home favorite to Syracuse with much better talent than this team, than they can lose next year, without even looking at their schedule.

Oh sure, but in the event that they do pull it off, will their schedule keep them out of it no matter what? Or will this game give them some legitimacy?

2780. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:20 AM (#4337712)

The ACC chose wisely.

2781. ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:26 AM (#4337714)

Indeed. Clearly ACC > SEC after this bowl season.

(THAT IS A JOKE SORRY GUYS WHO GET EMOTIONAL OVER SCHOLASTIC FOOTBALL)

2782. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:34 AM (#4337717)

BTW, isn't the Big East 4-0 against the SEC this year now (beating Kentucky, Mizzou, Arkansas and now Florida)? Or am I missing a game?

2783. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:43 AM (#4337720)

side note: how the hell did UK handle Kent State?

2784. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: January 03, 2013 at 08:43 AM (#4337763)

His Louisville team lost to UConn...

BTW...Pitt has a chance to make it 5-0 for the BE vs. SEC against Ole Miss in the Compass Bowl.

2785. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: January 03, 2013 at 08:53 AM (#4337769)

That was an unexpected result.

2786. bunyon Posted: January 03, 2013 at 09:01 AM (#4337774)

I'd give $5 to be inside Muschamp's head right now.

That would appear to be more than his head is worth.

2787. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 09:02 AM (#4337777)

Every excuse imaginable is being made for why SEC were unlucky to lose games they got out gained and our scored.

Cite?

2788. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 09:05 AM (#4337780)

ASmitty Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:27 AM (#4337631)
Unreal. I have yet to hear anyone say that the SEC isn't the best conference in football,

As long as you keep saying that, its all good.

2789. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: January 03, 2013 at 09:23 AM (#4337785)

As long as you keep saying that, its all good.

1. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football, with the Big12 coming in a reasonably close second.
2. The PAC12, B1G and ACC shuffle around after that, depending on how good their power teams are in a given year.
3. The SEC was notably weaker in 2012 than in previous years.
4. The SEC didn't come to play, across the board, in 2012 bowl games.
5. The Big East has played above their heads in bowl games, giving that conference a better final shine than it probably deserves.

Congrats to Louisville, though. I hope Sam M. got back to the hotel safe after the game.

2790. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 09:26 AM (#4337787)

I'd give $5 to be inside Muschamp's head right now.

That would appear to be more than his head is worth.

*LIKE*

2791. Gary Truth Serum Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:08 PM (#4337898)

For reasons I can't prove (too lazy) I seem to think the Sugar Bowl was the first to have a title sponsor (USF&G).

THE USF&G sponsorship started in 1987. The Sunkist Fiesta Bowl was a year earlier, and the Florida Citrus Bowl (if you count that one as corporate sponsored) was four years earlier.

2792. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:59 PM (#4337950)

4. The SEC didn't come to play, across the board, in 2012 bowl games.

Bullshit. Florida was playing mean spirited defense in the Sugar Bowl, they just couldn't stop Bridgewater. LSU started out strong, but then faded down the stretch, which doesn't at all suggest they didn't come to play. The Outback Bowl was an evenly matched game with no sign of laziness or let down on USCe's part. I didn't see the Capital One Bowl, but you would be the first person to suggest Georgia didn't come to play.

This is what people don't like about some SEC fans and why it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion about conference strength. Just because you didn't blow everyone out of the water does not mean you didn't come to play. It means you just aren't that much better than everyone else. Welcome to 2012-2013, two of your four best teams lost to lower ranked squads straight up.

2793. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:48 PM (#4337989)

agree wtih 2792, I didn't get that vibe at all, Vandy definitely was ready and there to play. UF was definitely playing intense, if not undisciplined' on the defensive end as noted.

MSU just sucks (at least the QBs do).

Southern Cal is about the only team where it was painfully obvious that they were completely disgusted by their own presence. Purdue was simply disgusting.

2794. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 01:53 PM (#4337993)

Southern Cal is about the only team where it was painfully obvious that they were completely disgusted by their own presence. Purdue was simply disgusting.

WVU's attitude was pretty shameful too, but that's so par for the course these days that it might just be who they are rather than a bowl let down.

2795. DA Baracus Posted: January 03, 2013 at 02:27 PM (#4338050)

2796. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 03, 2013 at 02:34 PM (#4338059)

Is there any conference that was "up" this year? Everyone says it was a down year for the SEC. For the ACC. For the Big East. For the Big 10. For all of them. When they all are having down years, it's time to stop saying that.

It was definitely an up year for the PAC-12, at least until bowl season started. The Big 12 had a pretty good year, although it wasn't as strong as it might have been. And for sure the WAC, MAC and MWC conference had big years. Look at how many non-BCS teams were in the final polls, most with fairly unimpressive OOC wins. That's how you know that the BCS conferences had down years.

And I think, all in all, this is a fairly successful year for the ACC. A winning bowl record. No losses to 1-AA programs (IIRC), Clemson beat LSU, FSU won the Orange Bowl. If Miami and UNC weren't on probation, they would have had a fairly deep bowl lineup. I mean, it wasn't a banner year or anything, but compared to the recent crap fest that has been the ACC, they did alright this year.

2797. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 04:19 PM (#4338173)

Everyone says it was a down year for the SEC.

Who is Everyone? I know sam is EVERYMAN, but come on - the season ended with the SEC having 6 of the top 10? How is that a down year?

They had a bowl performance that was poor - ONE - UF.

Clemson is a good team, but LSU has been defense all year, with not much offense, and they just couldn't get a stop when they needed it. SoCar lost Lattimore and so they played Michigan without that part of their running game, and still eked it out. And Michigan wasn't a bad team.

The SEC has three more bowl games - if they win those three they go 6-3 in bowls and (another) national championship. Everyone, including ASmitty says they are the best conference, hands down.

Heck, they are a Les Miles handoff from being 4-2.

2798. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 04:21 PM (#4338179)

I guess it is a down year for the SEC when they don't have THE BEST TEAM WALKING AWAY. I disagree that it was a down year for the SEC.

Even when there is a 90% chance the SEC will beat your ass, there is still that 10%.

2799. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: January 03, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4338185)

Congrats to Louisville, though. I hope Sam M. got back to the hotel safe after the game.

Seconded. Very glad for Sam.

2800. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 04:36 PM (#4338205)

Who is Everyone? I know sam is EVERYMAN, but come on - the season ended with the SEC having 6 of the top 10? How is that a down year?

Take it from an Arkansas fan who works with an Auburn fan -- it was a very down year.

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