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Thursday, November 01, 2012

OT: November College Football Thread.

Alabama Is still Ranked #1.  Will they hold steady to repeat? Make it to the title game?  Or does another team claim the Crystal ball in Miami in January.

odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: November 01, 2012 at 01:43 PM | 3408 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   301. VoodooR Posted: November 10, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4299780)
It's just impossible to call that "helmet-to-helmet" / "defenseless receiver" rule consistently.
   302. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 10, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4299781)
it would be great if somebody could get a call against Bama, hm? that would've iced it!

[edit: and look what happens......&^%($*^%$(*&^(%&*^%(*&%$*
   303. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:00 PM (#4299782)
TaMU will regret going for two.
   304. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:04 PM (#4299784)
This could work out ok. Just nake sure Bama scores with some time left


OH BOY.
   305. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:06 PM (#4299785)
look at those ####### smug girls in their pancake makeup.....MAKE THEIR MAKEUP RUN, A&M!
   306. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4299786)
Thats it! GOOD NIGHT BAMA
   307. DA Baracus Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4299787)
Damn son.
   308. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:09 PM (#4299789)
Actually they neee a first down. Smart of Bama to save timeouts.
   309. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:11 PM (#4299790)
Crap....
   310. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4299792)
naah, Bama will just induce single coverage and throw another deep bomb....
   311. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4299794)
HoLY ####!!!!! Bwahahahaha
   312. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4299795)
OH MY OH MY OH MY!
   313. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4299800)
That sucks. Knew it would be a tough one to win. Sucks that we lost this way. Oregon might have killed this Alabama team anyway.
   314. cmd600 Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4299803)
Oregon might have killed this Alabama team anyway


I find this pretty rich. Alabama was rolling teams all season (and longer really), and now suddenly we're going to act like they were a flawed team ripe for the taking?
   315. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4299806)
Not really, I was calling a possible loss in this game for about 2 weeks. Alabama was going to struggle against a team that can spread the field and have the ability to run and pass the ball. Sounds like A&M and Oregon to me....

and yes it happening after the LSU game doesn't help. Much like the South Carolina loss in 2010 (that was after a tough stretch), it happens.
   316. Tripon Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:45 PM (#4299807)
Because LSu-Alabama didn't happen last week?
   317. steagles Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:47 PM (#4299808)
okay, so i believe the count now is that there are 6 teams in college football who can beat the kansas city chiefs (alabama, oregon, texas A&M, LSU, florida, and louisiana-lafayette).


you know, i'm beginning to think that might not be quite so accurate.
   318. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 10, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4299811)
I had work today and figured, "Hey, that's OK, it's just Louisana-Lafayette." I wonder if that thought process will work next week against Jacksonville State.

And I missed an Alabama loss! Damn my need for American currency.
   319. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 10, 2012 at 09:13 PM (#4299817)
Well time to get drunk and hope for chaos.
   320. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 10, 2012 at 09:37 PM (#4299825)
Washington State receiver Marquess Wilson is leaving the program, and is throwing quite the bomb as he leaves.

However, the new regime of coaches has preferred to belittle, intimidate and humiliate us. This approach has obviously not been successful, and has put a dark shadow on this program.

“My teammates and I have endured this treatment all season long. It is not “tough love”. It is abuse.
   321. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 09:42 PM (#4299829)
One of my favorite developments in college football over the past ten years is Boston College's transformation from one of the premier.programs in the northeast into the absolute worst piece of garbage program in the entire country. HA
   322. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 10, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4299830)
Isn't the Wazzu coach the same dude who got in hot water for this type of thing a few years ago?
   323. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 10, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4299832)
Yeah, Voxter. The kid involved at Texas Tech back then was the son of Craig James, a former college star and widely loathed commentator, so most people figured the kid was being a prick like his father (Craig had apparently agitated about his son's playing time earlier, which didn't help his case). Leach won the popularity contest, even after he lost his job. Hard to blame Craig James for this one.
   324. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 10:14 PM (#4299839)
Bc lost to Army. Just sayin'
   325. puck Posted: November 10, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4299840)
Bc lost to Army. Just sayin'

CU loses 50-0 to all sorts of teams. Wash St lost to CU. No wonder they've been beating those kids.
   326. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM (#4299845)
Hey!! Congrats UMass on their first winas an FBS program.

   327. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM (#4299847)
Yeah, how bad is Akron. KSU is a machine, even if they've dropped two pick sixes tonight.
   328. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM (#4299848)
Also...is every team in Louisiana good this year? Tech, Monroe, Lafayette...they can all play.
   329. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 10, 2012 at 10:40 PM (#4299851)
WVU would have to become bowl eligible for me to answer that.

Not going to happen. You see how close Kansas played Texas Tech today? WVU is probably the worst team in the league at this point in the season and they are going to be hard pressed beat anyone else for the rest of the season.
   330. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM (#4299885)
Remember when someone around here was asserting that Oregon wouldn't run WVU off the field? That was a fun time.
   331. Tuque Posted: November 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM (#4299888)
I think Oregon will win.
   332. McCoy Posted: November 11, 2012 at 12:03 AM (#4299896)
Oooh doggie, Notre Dame could be #2 in the nation tomorrow! Greatest team of all time!!
   333. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM (#4299913)
Uh UO, Mariota just left the game, hurt his left arm in some fashion. Ran off field in the 'I fkd up my elbow/shoulder' pose. In pain. Drive fizzles, UO might actually kick a FG here.
   334. hokieneer Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:10 AM (#4299920)
#330 was that me or cp? I don't remember that.
   335. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:15 AM (#4299921)
I'm guessing that was the same week some of us (myself included) had MSU winning the BIG.
   336. hokieneer Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:35 AM (#4299926)
And USC going undefeated.
   337. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:40 AM (#4299928)
and UMass going winless.
   338. hokieneer Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:40 AM (#4299929)
Cal is creating holes 10 yards wide, just running up the middle.
   339. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:42 AM (#4299930)
Cal has been a pain for UO in Berkeley the past 3 visits. Cal totally botched the game in 2010 missing a short FG, but still held UO to 15 points.
   340. zenbitz Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:51 AM (#4299933)
UCLA blocked 4 kicks in the first half - 2 FGs and 2 punts, and also recovered a fumbled kick off. Also other than a incompletion on the last play of the half was 12-12 passing. If you include the 1 pass he threw to the defense. Wazzu actually looked decent for a quarter other than special teams.
   341. Tuque Posted: November 11, 2012 at 02:31 AM (#4299938)
I think Oregon might pull this out.
   342. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:47 AM (#4299945)
If notre dame started the season ranked ahead of kstate, would they be behind them now? I think not

This season has been amazing. I hope it continues.

And damn is Johnny Football good, they really took it to bama the entire first quarter.
   343. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 04:13 AM (#4299946)
If notre dame started the season ranked ahead of kstate, would they be behind them now?


Yes. It's pretty obvious they're not that good.
   344. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:15 AM (#4299951)
Kstate vs. Oregon would be a pretty sweet title game. I wouldn't be shocked if ND lost to wake.
   345. Mike Webber Posted: November 11, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4300019)
If notre dame started the season ranked ahead of kstate, would they be behind them now? I think not

Notre Dame was #11 in the AP in week 4, while KSU was #15, though they were 15 and 13 in coaches poll.
Then KSU beat OU, and leap frogged them into the top 10.

Now if the question was "If Notre Dame had beaten OU before KSU would they be behind them now?" that might be interesting.
   346. SoSH U at work Posted: November 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4300024)

Now if the question was "If Notre Dame had beaten OU before KSU would they be behind them now?" that might be interesting.


Perhaps, but as Voxter notes, Notre Dame is right where they belong, as it's obvious they deserve to be ranked below Oregon and K-State (though, if it's any consolation to the Irish, they're quite bit better than the other Division I unbeaten).

   347. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:02 PM (#4300036)
#330 was that me or cp?


I don't remember for sure, but I think it was you. It was back when WVU was undefeated and ranked #5. They were being dismissed out of hand by a lot of people and someone said something about how they could play with any of the top 5 except Alabama. I remember it because I was kind of aghast, and then probably said something mean about it.
   348. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:12 PM (#4300042)
I found it. It was Weekly Journalist. I wrote (about Louisville v WVU):

It's weird because neither team is any good, not because the Big East has never had a good team. I can't imagine Louisville would score against Alabama or LSU, and the real question against Oregon would be whether or not they gave up 50.


To which WJ responded:

What a ridiculous overstatement. They would get crushed by Alabama but I guarantee you either team would be competitive with LSU or Oregon, two decidedly overrated teams.


I amend my statement, by the way. The question against Oregon would be whether or not WVU or Louisville gave up 70.
   349. hokieneer Posted: November 11, 2012 at 01:43 PM (#4300058)
Voxter:

That's good to know. I really didn't remember making any grand statements about WVU like that. I seemed to be one cautious person in my group of friends after the Texas win, and was extremely nervous about going to Lubbok. Of course I also thought WVU would beat KSU at home, so what do I know.
   350. cmd600 Posted: November 11, 2012 at 02:18 PM (#4300070)
Now if the question was "If Notre Dame had beaten OU before KSU would they be behind them now?" that might be interesting.


This is the is right here. Kansas St got a bigger boost from Oklahoma than ND did. Also, ND could really have used Michigan not scheduling Alabama. Michigan schedules some tasty MAC treat instead and ND beats the #7 team in the nation (who got a preseason #1 overall vote in the AP Poll) the same week that K-St beat Oklahoma.
   351. cmd600 Posted: November 11, 2012 at 02:43 PM (#4300086)
It's going to take a lot to convince me there isn't a problem with the system if Florida doesn't drop even one spot after that performance. I don't know if its an "ESS EEE SEE!" thing or just voters who are too lazy to do anything more than "all the one loss teams go after all the undefeated teams" or what. I know this is far from the first time this issue has shown up, but I have little hope that the upcoming playoff will really fix anything when they'll still be using the same system to rank teams that doesn't even blink an eye after that game.
   352. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 11, 2012 at 02:46 PM (#4300088)
I absolutely retract my statement. Oregon would crush either ville or wvu. I mean, I guess wvu might be able t score enough to hang for a half...
   353. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4300093)
Alabama losing took a big hit in the Sagarin ELO_CHESS and presumably other computer rankings since margin of victory can't be accounted for.

Texas looked very good beating down Iowa State and I think they can give Kansas State a lot of trouble.

Oregon is likely the best team in the country, but they have Stanford and Oregon State - probably their toughest games of the year - left.

Notre Dame has the easiest path but still has to beat a pretty explosive USC team in a night game on the road.

A 1-loss SEC champion is a slam dunk to be ranked as the highest 1 loss team. I think people will speculate, legitimately, that they should still be in the championship game. But Alabama is still the most likely team to be in that scenario, and I don't think their computer rankings will be high enough. The fact that they dodged all of the good SEC East teams was both a blessing and a curse.
   354. SoSH U at work Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:01 PM (#4300096)
I think people will speculate, legitimately, that they should still be in the championship game. But Alabama is still the most likely team to be in that scenario, and I don't think their computer rankings will be high enough. The fact that they dodged all of the good SEC East teams was both a blessing and a curse.


And Georgia dodged the good SEC West ones. I don't see a legitimate case for either of these teams over one of the three unbeatens. If LSU were a one-loss SEC champ, they'd have a far more compelling argument (with Fla. and SC on their docket from the East). Or, to a lesser extent, Florida (LSU and Texas A&M), though Saturday's game makes for a harder sell.

   355. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4300099)
The Pac 12 is really interesting - pretty much all of the good teams dodged each other early in the year and they're all playing late in the year.

UCLA: USC and Stanford
Oregon: Oregon State and Stanford
USC: UCLA and Notre Dame
Stanford: UCLA and Oregon
Oregon State: Cal and Oregon

There's going to be a lot of exciting west coast games the next two weeks.
   356. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:14 PM (#4300100)
Also, it kills me that Manziel grew up a Longhorns fan and they didn't offer him a scholarship to play quarterback. He's got to be considered a near lock for the Heisman now, right?
   357. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:17 PM (#4300101)
Also, in case you were wondering how bad the Big 10 is: Ohio State's predictor rating in Sagarin is 26.
   358. cmd600 Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4300103)
Perhaps my rant works better if applied to Texas Tech, who moved up in both the AP and Coaches' poll after going to OT with Kansas.
   359. Mike Webber Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:33 PM (#4300106)
Also, it kills me that Manziel grew up a Longhorns fan and they didn't offer him a scholarship to play quarterback. He's got to be considered a near lock for the Heisman now, right?

My purple bias on full display, but I think Klein is still ahead. It is an uphill battle for a freshman, and let's face it many Heisman voters heard of him for the first time yesterday, or maybe when a friend forwarded them his .Halloween Photos. (scroll up a little)
   360. SoSH U at work Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4300110)
My purple bias on full display, but I think Klein is still ahead.


Not a KSU fan, but I think so too. Manziel leaped into New York invite status, but I wouldn't go further than that.
   361. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4300130)
Kansas almost beat Texas too. And Oklahoma State. They've been playing much better football lately. They have a reasonable shot of winning one of their next two games - Iowa State and WVU.
   362. smileyy Posted: November 11, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4300136)
My amusement at a playoff system that still has all of the problems of the BCS system is unmeasurable.
   363. zenbitz Posted: November 11, 2012 at 04:55 PM (#4300152)
SO ... assuming:

UCLA beats USC (ha, big fat homer assumption there)
Stanford beats UCLA
Oregon beats Stanford
Oregon beats Oregon State

P12 championship is Oregon vs. UCLA - Oregon wins and goes to BCS semifinal against one of KSU/ND/Alabama or whatever.

Who plays in the Rose Bowl? UCLA or Stanford? Rose Bowl picks? I presume Stanford will be ranked higher.


   364. Tripon Posted: November 11, 2012 at 04:57 PM (#4300154)
I would guess a team outside of the Pac-12.
   365. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4300173)
I know that I'll be rooting for Virginia Tech/Michigan.
   366. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4300184)
Are we really going to be dealt a season in which we have to endure a bunch of white guys jacking off to Notre Dame again? That's so 1990s.
   367. Mike Webber Posted: November 11, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4300185)
CBS projects Notre Dame to face Nebraska in the Rose Bowl.
   368. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4300188)
And Georgia dodged the good SEC West ones. I don't see a legitimate case for either of these teams over one of the three unbeatens. If LSU were a one-loss SEC champ, they'd have a far more compelling argument (with Fla. and SC on their docket from the East). Or, to a lesser extent, Florida (LSU and Texas A&M), though Saturday's game makes for a harder sell.


Oregon is just a different animal, and I don't know how well their uptempo schtick would translate into a full season of the SEC, and that QB kid from KState has some of the Tebow about him (which works pretty well in college), but Notre Dame would be 7-3 at best if they had to run the SEC schedule.
   369. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4300189)
nebraska beat wisconsin by 3 points at home

wisconsin is playing their third string qb these days but on a neutral field i still believe wisconsin has a good shot to win the big10 championship game
   370. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 06:19 PM (#4300214)
Oregon wins and goes to BCS semifinal against one of KSU/ND/Alabama or whatever.


Don't you mean championship? I thought the BCS playoff system didn't start for another year or two?
   371. smileyy Posted: November 11, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4300231)
[366] Well, they can't jack off to Mitt Romney anymore...
   372. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4300239)
Vanderbilt is 4-3 in the SEC. That's crazy. It's going to be very interesting to see what happens with the SEC - there's likely to be 5 or 6 teams that think they should be in a BCS game. Georgia has a chance to be 11-1 going into the SEC Championship, lose, and then be in the Gator Bowl.

If Texas beats TCU they'll have locked up the Cotton Bowl or better. I'd be confident if they played South Carolina or Florida. I'd worry they'd get run off the field if they played A&M. I don't know what would happen if they played Georgia or LSU.
   373. Quaker Posted: November 11, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4300241)
Weird that you know ND would have three losses in the SEC when their Sagarin predictor rating is better than every team in the SEC East and behind only Bama & A&M in the West. I guess that third loss would come from one of the notoriously difficult OOC games SEC teams are known for scheduling.
   374. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4300245)
Weird that you know ND would have three losses in the SEC when their Sagarin predictor rating is better than every team in the SEC East and behind only Bama & A&M in the West.


Oh, the Sagarin *predictor rater* says they're better. That's meaningful, I'm sure. Florida, South Carolina or UGA would beat them on most Saturdays. Bama, LSU and A&M would win relatively easily as well. They had to go to three overtimes against Pitt, for Chrissakes.
   375. SoSH U at work Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:03 PM (#4300253)


Oh, the Sagarin *predictor rater* says they're better. That's meaningful, I'm sure. Florida, South Carolina or UGA would beat them on most Saturdays. They had to go to three overtimes against Pitt, for Chrissakes.


I'm sure mighty Louisiana Lafayette would dispatch them before the second OT at the latest.

   376. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:10 PM (#4300255)
I'm sure mighty Louisiana Lafayette would dispatch them before the second OT at the latest.


Notre Dame would beat Florida if their QB got hurt and they played like they did Saturday. But that's not the question at hand. The point is not that ND would lose *every Saturday.* It's that they'd lose two or three Saturdays as they ran the gauntlet of the SEC schedule. They might beat SC, but then UGA or FL would hammer them. Or they might get through LSU, but then they'd have to deal with A&M or Bama. Over the course of the season, that's 2-3 losses on them, in their best years.
   377. Tripon Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4300256)
You could say the same thing with ND if they played in the Big 12, or Pac 12.
   378. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:21 PM (#4300259)
You could say the same thing with ND if they played in the Big 12, or Pac 12.


As Utah and TCU has found out.
   379. Tripon Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4300263)

As Utah and TCU has found out.


I think Boise St. would have been fine if they joined a power conference though.
   380. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4300264)
You could say the same thing with ND if they played in the Big 12, or Pac 12.


Yes, you could. In some years, the SEC is head and shoulders above the other conferences. 2012 is not one of those years. I have no idea how the SEC would deal with Oregon's attack, and as I said previously, that "Johnny Football" kid from KState looks like the second coming of His Lord and Worshipfulness Gatorboy. Hell, A&M jumped into the SEC and has competed like mad, with a sort of Oregon-lite offense.

And they've lost 2.

The point isn't that ND isn't good this year. It's that they're not good enough to go undefeated in a power conference, and the idea that they're one of the top five teams in the bowl conference is just silly.
   381. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4300268)
that "Johnny Football" kid from KState


The "Johnny Football" (stupidest nickname ever? did the athletic dept. come up with that, or does it date back to high school, or did it emerge from the famously clueless Aggie student body?) kid from A&M is even better.
   382. Spivey Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4300270)
I think Boise St. would have been fine if they joined a power conference though.


Well it depends on the year(s). Kellen Moore's last 3 years, Boise was an extremely good team. One of those years they had a decent argument for being the best team in the country. But this year, they'd probably be in the bottom half of the conference in the Big 12. TCU has struggled this year, but a couple of years ago when they won the Rose Bowl they'd have been fine - again, they had an argument a year or two there where they were in the discussion for best team in the country. Also, a big reason TCU has struggled this year is because their lost their starting quarterback a third of the way into the season.
   383. SoSH U at work Posted: November 11, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4300279)
The point isn't that ND isn't good this year. It's that they're not good enough to go undefeated in a power conference, and the idea that they're one of the top five teams in the bowl conference is just silly.


There's no way in hell No. 5 Georgia's schedule this year is better than Notre Dame's, regardless the SEC imprint on it. The Dawgs sure as hell haven't run any gauntlet.

   384. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 09:24 PM (#4300287)
The "Johnny Football" (stupidest nickname ever? did the athletic dept. come up with that, or does it date back to high school, or did it emerge from the famously clueless Aggie student body?) kid from A&M is even better.


Duly noted. My bad. The KState kid is Colin Cowherd or Calvin Klein or something, right?

There's no way in hell No. 5 Georgia's schedule this year is better than Notre Dame's, regardless the SEC imprint on it. The Dawgs sure as hell haven't run any gauntlet.


It's a down year for the SEC. But they beat the hell out of Ole Miss and Auburn. ND needed trips OT to get out of friggin' Pitt alive.
   385. SoSH U at work Posted: November 11, 2012 at 09:35 PM (#4300293)

But they beat the hell out of Ole Miss and Auburn.


They beat Auburn and Ole Miss? Both of them in the same season? Wow.

No objective observer can look at Georgia's schedule and compare it favorably to Notre Dame's. Of course, you don't really need an objective observer, because them fancy computers will tell you the same thing.

I think Notre Dame has played above its head to this point, and is quite fortunate to have the record it has. I'd say the same thing about Florida, however. Georgia's played two good teams, and got waxed by one of them. And they're No. 5 (and 4, ahead of Alabama, in the Coaches Poll, which is just ####### nuts). So yes, I feel comfortable putting Notre Dame in the Top 5.

   386. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4300298)
notre dame has played a solid schedule and won all their games. why would anyone gripe about their high ranking? it's earned

   387. DA Baracus Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4300309)
stupidest nickname ever? did the athletic dept. come up with that, or does it date back to high school, or did it emerge from the famously clueless Aggie student body?


You got it right eventually.
   388. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:11 PM (#4300313)
nebraska beat wisconsin by 3 points at home

wisconsin is playing their third string qb these days but on a neutral field i still believe wisconsin has a good shot to win the big10 championship game


Of course, some of my UW friends are yelling 'why wasn't Phillips starting earlier this year?' I'm guessing he got a sliver of the reps and he couldn't have been in BB's plans.
re: Indy
anything can happen in that game. Decent chance there are 7 losses between the two teams by the time Nebraska/Mich and UW get to Indy. The league is poor.
   389. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:17 PM (#4300317)
Rickey can I have what ever it is you are smoking? To say ND isnt top 5 is assine. And if you think they couldnt take the sec grind, just remember every team gets up and gives notre dame there best so its not as if they ant used to big games in succession
   390. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:21 PM (#4300319)
Rickey can I have what ever it is you are smoking?


No.

To say ND isnt top 5 is assine.


Wherein "assine" means "clearly obvious to any sane mammal."

And if you think they couldnt take the sec grind, just remember every team gets up and gives notre dame there best so its not as if they ant used to big games in succession


I'm sure the Pitts of the wold get up and give ND their best. And they're still Pitt.
   391. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM (#4300321)
Must be easy going into oklahoma and win convincingly
   392. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:41 PM (#4300326)
Oklahoma. One friggin' game.
   393. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:43 PM (#4300328)
Pitt is a lot better than Kentucky. Which is relevant if the only way to evaluate a team is their worst performance of the season against a bad team.

That's good to know. I really didn't remember making any grand statements about WVU like that.

Yeah, we both knew better than to expect this team to be a national title contender. I don't think either of us expected a collapse like this. WVU could (should?) be a two loss team, but the team has managed to wilt into one that is going to be lucky to be bowl eligible.

If you feel like talking about it, how do you portion out the blame? I still have Stewart on the hook for some of this (mainly the lack of depth and the quitting when they are down) but Holgorsen's inability to get them refocused and playing like they did at the beginning of the season is wearing on my confidence in him
   394. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:46 PM (#4300331)
I'm not denigrating ND win at OU this year (or KSU's) but I think the total lockdown at home for OU has definitely weakened. TT got to 'em pretty good last year, though nearly melted down after being up 31-7, OU had a furious rally in the latter parts of the second half, 41-38 final.

ND has a bit of a Bama '92, tOSU '02 look to them, not a lot of style points, at all, but defense definitely capable of keeping game within reach. (No, I'm not saying they are as good as Bama '92, just remind me of a team like that), I am not Corky Simpson, though he got the last laugh in that feaux controversy.
   395. cmd600 Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:57 PM (#4300337)
My favorite argument in all of college football is the myth that everyone else would be .500 or so in the SEC. What is Georgia's second best win? Vanderbilt? Missouri? Because it sure as hell isn't Ole Miss or Auburn. Those teams couldn't get to a bowl game in the ACC. Does anyone remember that Georgia lost to home by a couple scores to Boise and lost in Tampa to Michigan St? What exactly has Georgia down outside the conference to suggest they should start each season highly ranked?
   396. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:01 PM (#4300341)
Vanderbilt?

Yeah, since Vandy beat Mizzou and Mizzou beat Tennessee. Vandy lost to Northwestern.
   397. Rickey!'s people were colonized by wankers Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:05 PM (#4300347)
I'm pretty sure Vandy would win the Big 12.
   398. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4300348)
Sec fans use the rankings at the time of the team that lost to bolster the case while dismissing the same wins of any non sec team.
   399. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:07 PM (#4300349)
As a stats site it really is amazing to see how many people ignore them in other sports. Number 1 in the computers for a reason
   400. Mike Webber Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:07 PM (#4300350)
If Texas beats TCU they'll have locked up the Cotton Bowl

Hey Spivey, would Texas agree to playing Johnny Football in the Cotton Bowl? To me that looks like the matchup, though the SEC blogger on ESPN thinks A&M will go to the Fiesta. I think it would be outstanding! Though the hotel people might hate it.

I'm thinking Fiesta might take a loss Florida or a 2 loss Bama or possibly LSU than A&M - though being the western most of those schools may give A&M a bump. None of those schools have an issue selling tickets do they?
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