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OT: November College Football Thread.

Alabama Is still Ranked #1.  Will they hold steady to repeat? Make it to the title game?  Or does another team claim the Crystal ball in Miami in January.

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   901. AuntBea Posted: November 23, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4308479)
If Nebraska loses the Big Ten Championship, then a team outside the top 14 could gain an automatic spot that way.


There are other ways too. As was mentioned earlier, the winner of the Big East could be outside. Florida State could lose to Florida, win the ACC and be out of the top 14 (maybe). Or they could lose the ACC championship. UCLA could lose to Stanford and then win against them in the Pac-12 championship, likely leaving them out of the top 14. Even Kansas State could lose against Texas, finish out of the top 14, and still be the highest ranked Big-12 team (unlikely, but possible if Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State, and either or both of Oklahoma, Oklahoma State loses their other game).

Also, it's possible that the 14 will have to be expanded to 18, opening up more potential teams. That would happen if there were not enough teams in the top 14 to choose from. For example, if 6 SEC teams AND 3 pac-12 teams finished in the top 14 (not impossible). Then the next 4 become available for selection, likely creating a choice for a bowl selection.
   902. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4308485)
Arkansas kicked a field goal from the 1 yard line down 7 in the 4th quarter.

Arkansas punted on 4th and 4 in LSU territory down 4 with 6 minutes left.

Pretty spectacular even by coaching-not-to-lose standards.
   903. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4308486)
Pretty spectacular even by coaching-not-to-lose standards.

Smith has absolutely nothing to lose, neither does his team. Those calls are inexcusable. They should have fired him and given one of the assistants the program for the last few weeks.
   904. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4308487)
Smith has absolutely nothing to lose, neither does his team. Those calls are inexcusable. They should have fired him and given one of the assistants the program for the last few weeks.


From his time at MSU I remember him the complaint was that he was too reckless. What the hell happened?
   905. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4308488)
From his time at MSU I remember him the complaint was that he was too reckless. What the hell happened?

Maybe all that time in bankruptcy court broke his spirit.

Edit: This is the third time this year that LSU has been lucky to escape a lousy team on the road.
   906. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 23, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4308498)
John L. Smith congrats on playing the most conservative football with nothing to lose award. I am sure some division III or high school team will hire you now.
   907. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 23, 2012 at 08:17 PM (#4308504)
Good for Wazzou

Veey entertaining apple cup
   908. Spivey Posted: November 23, 2012 at 09:38 PM (#4308524)
John L Smith was a decent coach several years back, wasn't he? Today was very, very uninspiring coaching. He has also quite possibly been the most lame duck coach of the last decade. I assume he wasn't fired solely because they didn't want to give the interim job to an assistant if they were determined to hire from outside the program.

The important thing is #### Arkansas.
   909. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 12:53 PM (#4308656)
No bowl selection "snubs" would be possible.

Edit: except, of course, for the 4 SEC teams that will insist they should have been the second SEC team selected.


I said that on the previous page. But, it's also true that the 3rd place BCS team gets an auto berth if the champion of their conference goes to the title game, so if Florida finishes ahead of either Oregon or Notre Dame, its possible that every single one of the 10 BCS teams will be predetermined.
   910. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 01:29 PM (#4308665)
Michigan-OSU is off to an exciting start.
   911. I am going to be Frank Posted: November 24, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4308668)
Missed the first OSU drive. Michigan is moving the ball well.
   912. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 24, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4308681)
I find it out that now I'm rooting for Rutgers. And they haven't shown up today.
   913. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 24, 2012 at 02:42 PM (#4308687)
Someone needs to tell Rutgers that their audition is over, they've been accepted by the BIG.
   914. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 24, 2012 at 02:42 PM (#4308688)
seems appropriate that Duke is going bowling while losing 5 of their last 6 games.
   915. hokieneer Posted: November 24, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4308705)
UVA taking two timeouts with them into the lockerroom instead of saving a min after vt fg attempt.
   916. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4308707)
This is not going to do much to keep expectations reasonable for Urban Meyer at Ohio State.
   917. hokieneer Posted: November 24, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4308708)
My. They did use the timeouts. To ice the kicker twice!
   918. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 24, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4308714)
RUTGERS BLOWS IT AGAIN!!

Nova is just terrible.
   919. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 24, 2012 at 04:59 PM (#4308723)
Does the Big East really have to get an automatic bid to a BCS bowl?
   920. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4308727)
Not a good day for the Big East.

Florida/Florida State has been fun so far.
   921. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4308728)
Oklahoma State's offense is really, really good.

This is my first extended look at FSU's defense and I haven't been very impressed.
   922. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 05:11 PM (#4308729)
Wow, you gotta catch that.
   923. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: November 24, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4308730)
This UF/FSU game is making me seriously consider watching "Chronicle" this afternoon.
   924. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4308731)
Fun fact: in the entire history of NCAA football, no team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit after the first quarter*.

*=Maybe not a "fact," per se.
   925. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4308738)
Auburn is just terrible. Big East bad.
   926. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:15 PM (#4308742)
The SEC has some really, really bad teams. The SEC has legitimately 6 of the top 10-15 teams in the country, too. A very unbalanced conference.
   927. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4308749)
I think Florida really let Florida State get their confidence back at the end of the first half.
   928. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4308751)
I feel like whenever you get a 15 yard penalty you can enforce on the kickoff, as the kicking team, you should try an onside kick most/all of the time in college.
   929. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:51 PM (#4308752)
Shenanigans!
   930. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4308755)
Oregon turned on the afterburners in the second half, it looks. 20-17 to 48-17 in less than a quarter's worth of play.
   931. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4308756)
This Werner kid is playing some bigtime football.
   932. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4308757)
When you have the opportunity to call a timeout to prevent your offense from going from 3rd and 17 to 3rd and 22, oh yeah, you have to take it.
   933. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4308760)
When you have the opportunity to call a timeout to prevent your offense from going from 3rd and 17 to 3rd and 22, oh yeah, you have to take it.


I wonder if instincts just kicked in there. As you say, it's a really bad tactical decision.
   934. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4308761)
Not a good day for the Big East.

How can that be? The #18 team in the country got manhandled by the Big East team that tied #1 Notre Dame. And another team that has been at best mediocre against other Big East teams just beat the #20 team in the country. Both Pitt and UConn are making strong cases to the voters.
   935. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4308763)
That's a big time kick.
   936. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4308764)
I wonder if instincts just kicked in there. As you say, it's a really bad tactical decision.


Will Muschamp gets paid very well to think with that lump three feet above his ass.
   937. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4308765)
so wisconsin tries to sit on a 7 point lead with 30 minutes to play.

isn't working
   938. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4308766)
Interesting, that's what Wisconsin does in basketball too.
   939. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4308768)
it's likely too late but please give the defense a rest
   940. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4308769)
Driskell does not have, and I quote, the "ankle speed". Seriously though, Driskell looks extremely rattled.
   941. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4308770)
to phillips credit he is making throws but the receivers are losing this game
   942. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4308771)
Should UF-FSU come down to field goals, it'll be the most entertaining kicker battle all year. Both kickers are finalists for the Groza.
   943. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:24 PM (#4308773)
the wisconsin coaching staff lost this game with the ridiculously conservative approach

the poor defense has to be exhausted
   944. Mike Webber Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:26 PM (#4308774)
Exciting end to the Baylor vs Texas Tech game, been flipping between that and Bedlam. After a couple days of bleh football in the Big 12, today's games are awesome.
   945. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4308776)
it took 3 and a half quarters for wisconsin to try and pass more than 10 yards

good gravy

and then right back to the same old, same old

   946. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4308777)
apparently someone told the receivers that they are allowed to catch the ball
   947. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:36 PM (#4308778)
This Florida/Florida State game has been a ####### blast.
   948. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4308779)
all this talk of concussions and there've been two absolutely brutal head-on-head tackles in the FSU-FU game that have been replayed repeatedly in super-slo-mo--while going completely without comment from the booth.

   949. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4308780)
And that is why the players and coaches will never stop going for hits to the head. There has to be serious rule changes / enforcement to prevent these,because there is just way too much to be gained on the field by hits like that.
   950. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4308781)
Although Texas and Ok St are likely battling for the Cotton Bowl slot, I'd love to see Ok St play one of the big time SEC defenses.
   951. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4308782)
that playcalling was.......................interesting
   952. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:39 PM (#4308783)
The FSU/Florida game has been littered with helmet to helmet hits.
   953. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:40 PM (#4308784)
Gillislee reminds me a bit of Priest Holmes. Quick without blazing speed, tough without great size. Shifty, squirmy, always falling forward.
   954. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4308786)
Gillislee may not have blazing speed, but he has the next tier of speed.
   955. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4308787)
It's fun to watch an entertaining, relevant Florida-Florida State game.
   956. DA Baracus Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4308788)
I know Eric Taylor is a good coach but to successfully make the jump from Texas HS football to the University of Florida is impressive.
   957. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4308789)
It's true what they say. It's difficult to beat a team of equal talent when you turn the ball over 5 times.
   958. Mike A Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:51 PM (#4308790)
Shame a helmet to helmet hit turned the FSU game around. But such is football, I guess.

Looks like Manuel is going back in, but it's likely too late. Argh.
   959. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4308791)
This Florida/Florida State game has been a ####### blast.

Bedlam has also been a ton of fun. Pretty fantastic slate right now, I'm watching both at the same time.
   960. Every Inge Counts Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4308792)
I decided to watch the burial of Gene Chizik instead.
   961. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4308793)
hmmmmmmmm
   962. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4308795)
Manuel apparently plays his best football while concussed.
   963. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 07:59 PM (#4308797)
I'd go for a 61 yard field goal over a 4th and 26.
   964. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:01 PM (#4308798)
"If you're that big and they're throwing you a jump ball, you should jump, I would think."
   965. Mike A Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:03 PM (#4308800)
Manuel has always been up and down. His turnovers today pretty much killed FSU.

I think the teams were pretty closely matched overall despite the final score....FSU may not be 'back' but they're going in the right direction. Now the question becomes what conference going forward...
   966. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4308802)
never had a chance

geez
   967. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4308804)
Hell of a finish to regulation in Bedlam. OT calls.
   968. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4308805)
Blake Bell scores a game tying TD with 4 seconds left on a 4th and 1 Blake Bell run. Bedlam, indeed. Oklahoma struggled a bit on their game tying drive, but it ended up paying off so that there was no time left.
   969. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:22 PM (#4308806)
God damn it Oklahoma State.
   970. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:26 PM (#4308807)
So, any chance Boise State or Kent State finish in the top 16, ending up with a BCS berth?
   971. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4308809)
If Kent State decisively beats NIU, I'd be fine with them getting a BCS bid.

Edit: Maybe not... the computers appear to say they shouldn't.
   972. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:37 PM (#4308811)
So, any chance Boise State or Kent State finish in the top 16, ending up with a BCS berth?

Wow, everyone from 15-21 lost, except for UCLA. 24 & 25 lost. One of 11 and 12 will lose. This could really happen. I guess they are as deserving as who ever wins the Big East championship, but neither team belongs in a BCS game. I'd rather see Kent St. make it, but they lost to Kentucky.
   973. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:41 PM (#4308813)
Kent State's not too bad in the computer rankings. And should rise slightly with a win over Northern Illinois
   974. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4308814)
I think I would most want to see Utah St. in a BCS game. I think they would have the best chance to compete. LA Tech second. It's kind of wrong that those two teams are behind Boise.
   975. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:18 PM (#4308820)
Boy, they were really ballparking it for an "8 PM start time" for the Notre Dame game. They still have pregame ceremonies going on right now.
   976. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4308823)
The nation needed to see T'eo be all gosh-darn all American and pat Matt Barkley's ass in that totally, completely unscripted moment in the tunnel, man.
   977. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:30 PM (#4308826)
It looks to me like the top 14 teams in the BCS will stay that way, with adjustment downward (within the 14) for Florida State and the loser of Clemson/South Carolina. Assuming UCLA loses, that is. Assuming K-State, Nebraska, and Florida State win their conferences, which team of the other three (Stanford, Clemson, or Oklahoma) does not get a berth?
   978. DA Baracus Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:39 PM (#4308827)
I want to see USC win for Notre Dame schadenfreude tonight and a greater chance of another year of Lane Kiffin schadenfreude in 2013.
   979. Mike Webber Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4308828)
which team of the other three (Stanford, Clemson, or Oklahoma) does not get a berth?

I'd guess Clemson. TV eyeballs is item one, as always. But here is what I think it might come down to, the Fiesta Bowl has an early pick and the West coast team is more likely to bring fans.
   980. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4308829)
I think I would most want to see Utah St. in a BCS game. I think they would have the best chance to compete. LA Tech second. It's kind of wrong that those two teams are behind Boise.


La Tech doesn't have a good win. Their best game is a close loss to A&M. Which is solid, but it's still a loss and they didn't beat anyone good. They played 2 good teams on the year and lost both. Utah State's best win is La Tech. They lost to BYU, who Boise beat. Utah State is a solid team - but they played 3 decent OOC teams and went 1-2 - the win is an overtime win against a 5-7 Utah team. Boise is in a somewhat similar boat.

In fact, Sagarin suggests La Tech should be a touchdown dog to San Jose State in their game tonight.
   981. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:47 PM (#4308830)
Clemson is going to a BCS game if they win tonight, I think.
   982. McCoy Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4308831)
Next stop for Notre Dame is the National Championship game.
   983. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4308833)
Assuming Notre Dame wins today, either Oregon or Florida will most likely be #3 in the rankings and the other will be #4. The #3 will get an auto bid, but is there any chance Oregon or Florida will be passed up for a BCS bowl?

I can't see Oregon getting passed up, so really the question is would one of the 2-loss SEC teams get the nod over a 1-loss #4 Florida team?
   984. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4308834)
Also, Stanford is probably going to win the Pac 12 and get an automatic berth. And Oregon is getting an at-large. The Big 12 looks likely to be on the outside looking in for at-large selection again this year, despite debatably being the best conference again. At least this year I won't have to stomach Va Tech and Michigan clowning it up.

The ACC actually has a pretty good racket. Suck so bad top to bottom that you consistently have teams with 2 losses that don't have a good win but are still ranked like 10-15 for no reason.
   985. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4308835)
Clemson might not even have the chance to go over Stanford, because Stanford will probably win the Pac-12. That means they would have to be chosen over a #4 Oregon (highly unlikely), or a #11 Oklahoma (seems unlikely also). Or, maybe K-State loses to Texas, falls behind Oklahoma in the BCS, and Clemson gets chosen over a lower ranked K-State.
   986. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4308836)
La Tech doesn't have a good win.

Well, none of these teams have good wins. That's why I think none of them have any business being in a BCS game.

Their best game is a close loss to A&M.

Which is probably the best non-BCS performance of the year. I can't think of a better one off the top of my head, the MAC wins over Rutgers and Cincy don't look so impressive these days.

They lost to BYU, who Boise beat. Utah State is a solid team - but they played 3 decent OOC teams and went 1-2 - the win is an overtime win against a 5-7 Utah team. Boise is in a somewhat similar boat.

The difference between Boise winning and Utah St. losing against BYU can pretty much be chalked up to Boise being home and Utah St. being away (Boise won 7-6, Utah St. lost 6-3). Losing to Wisconsin away is a wash with losing to MSU away. San Diego St. beat Boise at home and lost to a team that Utah St. crushed (San Jose St.), I think the BYU loss away is clearly better than the San Diego St. loss at home. I'm not saying there is any huge distinction here. They are all teams that are probably among the 35th-50th best in the nation. But I'll take Utah St.'s defense and their QB over the other non-BCS teams.
   987. Mike Webber Posted: November 24, 2012 at 09:59 PM (#4308838)
Aren't the top 4 BCS teams guaranteed bowl slots?
I believe that is what this goobledy gook means
5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.
   988. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4308839)
The difference between Boise winning and Utah St. losing against BYU can pretty much be chalked up to Boise being home and Utah St. being away (Boise won 7-6, Utah St. lost 6-3). Losing to Wisconsin away is a wash with losing to MSU away. San Diego St. beat Boise at home and lost to a team that Utah St. crushed (San Jose St.), I think the BYU loss away is clearly better than the San Diego St. loss at home. I'm not saying there is any huge distinction here. They are all teams that are probably among the 35th-50th best in the nation. But I'll take Utah St.'s defense and their QB over the other non-BCS teams.


Sagarin has Utah State and Boise as borderline top 25 teams, and I think that's pretty reasonable. La Tech is ranked 52 and has given up 50 points to a lot of teams that aren't A&M too. I just don't see them beating a team they'd have to play in the BCS.
   989. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:03 PM (#4308840)
Under paragraph 5, either Florida or Oregon would get a berth. So Paragraph 6 would not apply. Basically, those two paragraphs only take one "more" team after the automatic berths. If that team is ranked #3, the BCS doesn't need to take the #4 team.
   990. Mike Webber Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:03 PM (#4308841)
what in the heck are the uniforms UCLA is wearing? Is it some type of throwback, or just something fugly?
   991. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4308842)
The Big 12 looks likely to be on the outside looking in for at-large selection again this year, despite debatably being the best conference again.

The conference played so few interesting OOC games that I wonder if the ND loss and the Arizona loss by the Oklahoma teams suggest the Big 12 isn't as good as the computers think. I'm not really sure, but they will get the chance to prove it during the bowls.

The ACC actually has a pretty good racket. Suck so bad top to bottom that you consistently have teams with 2 losses that don't have a good win but are still ranked like 10-15 for no reason.

Yeah, I'm thinking there are 3-5 teams in the Big 12 that go 10-1 or better with Clemson's schedule to date (Oklahoma, K-St., Texas, TCU, Ok. St) and maybe a couple more (Texas Tech, WVU).
   992. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:05 PM (#4308843)
Touchdown USC!
   993. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4308844)
Sagarin has Utah State and Boise as borderline top 25 teams, and I think that's pretty reasonable

I'm surprised they are ranked that highly. I guess there are so few teams with 2 or less losses that a non-good loss can be covered up by just rolling on a less than impressive schedule.
   994. AuntBea Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4308845)
If the bowls would really take Clemson over an at-large Oklahoma, would it really matter if Clemson loses today? Either way, I think they stay in the top 14. Does the extra loss make a big difference to the bowl selectors?
   995. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:08 PM (#4308846)
USC cannot seem to tackle ND's tailbacks.
   996. DA Baracus Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM (#4308847)
Which is probably the best non-BCS performance of the year. I can't think of a better one off the top of my head, the MAC wins over Rutgers and Cincy don't look so impressive these days.


LT's loss by 2 was at home, Louisana Lafayette lost on the road by 7 to Florida. That's another "good loss."
   997. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:11 PM (#4308849)
If the bowls would really take Clemson over an at-large Oklahoma, would it really matter if Clemson loses today? Either way, I think they stay in the top 14. Does the extra loss make a big difference to the bowl selectors?

I think there would be a difference, as a TV and ticket sales product between the highest ranked team in the ACC, coming off a win over a rival SEC team, and a two loss, second highest ranked ACC team that lost to their rival again. One team looks like the next step for Clemson, the other looks like the team that got annihilated in the Orange Bowl last year. I don't know if it is enough to get them in over Oklahoma, but I think it will make it a closer decision.
   998. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4308850)
LT's loss by 2 was at home, Louisana Lafayette lost on the road by 7 to Florida. That's another "good loss."

Good call. I can't believe that Florida team is 11-1 with the wins they have. Blows my ####### mind.
   999. Spivey Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM (#4308852)
Florida looked really good today. They had a quarter meltdown, but they were playing a good team on the road. I was impressed with how they were able to run the ball, and they do have a legit very good defense.
   1000. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM (#4308853)
Florida looked really good today.

Agreed. I thought they would lose today and they only trailed for a few minutes. I guess they play to their competition, and I won't complain about them any more. They are obviously a very good team. I am looking forward to watching them in a BCS game, I just hope it's not the championship game against Bama.
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