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Tuesday, October 02, 2012

OTP: October 2012-THE RACE: As Candidates Prep, Attention in DC split between politics and baseball

While President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney bone up in Nevada and Colorado for Wednesday’s opening debate, back in the nation’s capital attention is split between the hard-fought presidential race and baseball playoffs.

The Nationals won the first division baseball championship for a Washington team since 1933 by clinching the National League East race Monday night.

Washington, D.C., has the only ballpark where so many Cabinet members, politicians and other luminaries routinely gather and where fans now are openly rooting for a particular president — one who served more than a century ago, Theodore Roosevelt.

“Let Teddy Win” banners and buttons are everywhere. Fans like 2008 GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain of Arizona say it’s time for Roosevelt’s 500-plus losing streak to end.

[...]

“Teddy, you are the victim of a vast left-wing conspiracy by the commie pinko libs in this town,” McCain said in a video played in the stadium Monday night. “But you can overcome that.”

The October 2012 “OT: Politics” thread starts ... now.

Joe Kehoskie Posted: October 02, 2012 at 02:14 PM | 6119 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   6101. Tripon Posted: October 31, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4289696)
I'm surprised people still pay attention to Drudge.
   6102. Joe Kehoskie Posted: October 31, 2012 at 09:59 PM (#4289699)
Two days after Gallup found early voters favoring Romney 52-47, Pew is out with a poll tonight that shows Romney leading 50-43 among early voters. In 2008, Obama led early voters in this same poll, 53-34.
   6103. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 31, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4289701)
FWIW... rumor mill has it that being one of two Senators/Senate candidates... either Rick Berg (ND-SEN candidate for Johnson's open seat) or NJ-SEN Bob Menendez

Maybe. Now that I think about it, if it was Clinton, it would have warranted Drudge's Flashing Light.
   6104. Tilden Katz Posted: October 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4289705)
Probably not Berg, he's a Republican. Menendez does seem to be a general scumbag, so it wouldn't shock me.
   6105. Lassus Posted: October 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM (#4289706)
I hope if Obama wins the election, Joe keeps citing polls that show him behind, ad infinitum, for like five or six years.
   6106. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: October 31, 2012 at 10:21 PM (#4289713)
I hope if Obama wins the election, Joe keeps citing polls that show him behind, ad infinitum, for like five or six years.


Huh. I have the link to the theme from M.A.S.H. queued up and waiting, personally.
   6107. McCoy Posted: October 31, 2012 at 10:38 PM (#4289720)
Obama won't have really won. It would just be liberal bias misreporting a Romney victory.
   6108. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: October 31, 2012 at 11:59 PM (#4289737)
No, Joe's suggesting that Obama will win:

Two days after Gallup found early voters favoring Romney 52-47, Pew is out with a poll tonight that shows Romney leading 50-43 among early voters. In 2008, Obama led early voters in this same poll, 53-34.

McCain was 19% behind in 2008 early voting, but ultimately only lost by 5.2%. Obama's only behind by 7%, so once he makes up the 13.8% he'll win by an even bigger margin than last time.
   6109. Ray (RDP) Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:42 AM (#4289745)
DRUDGE has an item -- "SEX SCANDAL TO HIT CAMPAIGN . . . DEVELOPING . . . " No details yet. Probably over-hyped, but my money is on Bill Clinton.


Maybe he had sex with Hillary for the second time?

Because that would be a sex scandal that would involve BOTH Clintons.
   6110. Ray (RDP) Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:43 AM (#4289746)
Mike Francesa says that the hurricane has finished Romney. Because Obama is out there looking presidential and cutting checks, and Romney can't criticize him.

Thoughts? Has Nate weighed in on this?
   6111. tshipman Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:52 AM (#4289749)
Thoughts? Has Nate weighed in on this?


Eh, I don't think it has much of an impact. If anything, it means that Romney's lost time. It's going to be Thursday, and Romney is still behind in Ohio and barely positive at best in Florida.

The storm sucked up coverage that, in theory, Romney might have used to his advantage. Romney appears to be very risk adverse, though, so it's debatable the impact it could have possibly had.

The bottom line is that Romney has 5 days to improve his standing since he's probably behind and every day that he loses due to the storm hurts him.

Edit: It's a weird cycle, though. I wouldn't rule it out, I guess.
   6112. Joe Kehoskie Posted: November 01, 2012 at 12:56 AM (#4289750)
It's hard to imagine a storm will be what pushes any undecideds toward Obama if they weren't there already. Plus, with the exception of northern Virginia, Sandy only hit areas that were already solidly in the bag for Obama. I guess it depends on how much people in Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc., are still paying attention to what Sandy did to NYC and New Jersey.
   6113. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:11 AM (#4289761)
Mike Francesa says that the hurricane has finished Romney. Because Obama is out there looking presidential and cutting checks, and Romney can't criticize him.

Thoughts? Has Nate weighed in on this?
While finding myself in agreement w Francesa gives me a twitch, in a race this close Obama's handling of the 'cane's aftermath is likely to have an effect. It's going to be a lot of the news, and not just in NE blue states, for the next week. It'll be the biggest story, probably, and Obama will handle his role well, probably.

DRUDGE has an item -- "SEX SCANDAL TO HIT CAMPAIGN . . . DEVELOPING . . . " No details yet. Probably over-hyped, but my money is on Bill Clinton.


Maybe he had sex with Hillary for the second time?
Cold. Funny, but cold.

edit: anyone know if the House does a straight up majority vote if the election goes there after an EV tie, and no electors can be bought, er, persuaded to change their votes?

Think of the leverage!
   6114. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:20 AM (#4289763)
Mike Francesa says that the hurricane has finished Romney.

I'll reserve judgement until I hear further analysis from Casey Kasem, Mancow, and Eric the Actor.
   6115. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 01, 2012 at 02:55 AM (#4289769)
. . . Menendez does seem to be a general scumbag, so it wouldn't shock me.

Menendez it is. A sex for money escapade in the Dominican Republic. The real scandal is that Menendez only gave the women $100 of the $500 he promised.
   6116. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: November 01, 2012 at 03:12 AM (#4289776)
@6115: isn't, ahem, lowballing what tripped up the Secret Service awhile back? No fury like a woman stiffed, I suppose.

FTFA:


According to the translator’s summary, Menendez “was nice at first, but then later he did not seem to care about her.”
Given that the woman was aware she was being paid to have sex, this seems like an odd complaint.

The women identify Menendez from a photograph. How could that possibly be an error? Why would they lie?

As an aside, I used to moderate a thing, and the percentage of women who went bananas if you expressed any reservations whatsoever wrt a woman's testimony in a sex case was astronomical.

Nate Silver did indeed refer to the hurricane, but not yet in a meaningful way.

Perhaps the most intriguing result from this group is the poll from Google Consumer Surveys. (Yes, Google has begin to conduct surveys online.) That poll had Mr. Obama ahead by four percentage points, an improvement from a roughly 1-point deficit for Mr. Obama in their prior survey last week.

The Google survey could be an indication that the effects of the hurricane will play somewhat to Mr. Obama’s political advantage. But it will probably be Thursday or Friday, once power and some of the national tracking surveys that have been discontinued have come back online, before we can say so with much confidence.
   6117. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: November 01, 2012 at 08:12 AM (#4289824)
Dick Morris on an educational rampage, explaining what's what.
   6118. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: November 01, 2012 at 08:28 AM (#4289826)
Thoughts? Has Nate weighed in on this?


Stealing Dimino's analogy from Facebook:

"538 up to 79% ... In our baseball analogy Obama got the first out in the top of the 9th, but the runner on first stole second. Still clinging to a 1-run lead ..."

Agreed with Mahnken that the sac bunt is the cleaner analogy. So yesterday, Obama got the first out in the top of the ninth with the tying run advancing to 2B.
   6119. Bitter Mouse Posted: November 01, 2012 at 08:30 AM (#4289827)
There is a new political thread for November by the way.
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