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OT Soccer Thread, v.2019

Looks like the last thread is closed, so onto the new!

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2/12 Manchester United v. PSG
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2/19 Liverpool v. Bayern Munich
2/24 Manchester United v. Liverpool
2/28 Chelsea v. Tottenham
3/2 North London Derby, Merseyside Derby, & El Classico
3/5 Dortmund v. Tottenham
3/9 Arsenal v. Manchester United
3/13 Bayern Munich v. Liverpool
3/16 Manchester Derby
3/30 Liverpool v. Tottenham

The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: January 30, 2019 at 07:08 PM | 1788 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1101. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:42 PM (#5833055)
Floppity
   1102. aberg Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5833059)
Due to a meeting, this thread is how I'm watching the 2nd half, and it has deilvered.
   1103. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5833060)
City get to bring on Sane with 10 minutes left. So gross.
   1104. jmurph Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:47 PM (#5833061)
Man, Gundogan has had multiple decent chances.
   1105. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:47 PM (#5833062)
No outlet for Spurs right now. Full on bunker mode.
   1106. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:50 PM (#5833063)
5 minutes?

For what???
   1107. I am going to be Frank Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:50 PM (#5833064)
There was VAR and subs.
   1108. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5833065)
WHAT IN THE #### ERIKSEN WHY ARE YOU PASSING BACKWARDS THERE
   1109. I am going to be Frank Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5833067)
Wow bad giveaway.
   1110. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5833068)
You cannot play out of the back there
   1111. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:52 PM (#5833069)
UM AGUERO IS OFFSIDE
   1112. I am going to be Frank Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5833070)
Yea he looked offside.
   1113. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5833071)
Eriksen needs to go
   1114. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5833072)
Eriksen still needs to go, you cannot do that
   1115. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5833073)
Is that a pass? Deflection counts?
   1116. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5833074)
Turns out the 5 minutes didn't matter.

Goddammit Eriksen, WTF were you doing there?

I literally screamed, NO, NO, NO when that back pass took the deflection.

Sigh.

Spurs.

[edit] Oh, yah ... VAR ... never mind!
   1117. I am going to be Frank Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5833075)
Once Bernado touched it, then Aguerro needs to be onsides to be able to play it.
   1118. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:55 PM (#5833076)
HOLY FUCKING MOLY!
   1119. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5833077)
i can't believe what has happened
   1120. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5833078)
Holy ####### #### we did it
   1121. The_Ex Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:57 PM (#5833080)
Its the bad news Spurs.
   1122. The Marksist Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:57 PM (#5833081)
Now beat them again this weekend, k?
   1123. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:59 PM (#5833082)
Now beat them again this weekend, k?

Honestly, I don't see any way Spurs don't lose by like 6-0 or so on Saturday. They're going to have NOTHING left in the tank.
   1124. jmurph Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:01 PM (#5833084)
Honestly, I don't see any way Spurs don't lose by like 6-0 or so on Saturday. They're going to have NOTHING left in the tank.

Their opponent also just played in this game. Sure, they have a much better bench, but all of their best players played today, too.
   1125. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:01 PM (#5833085)
Holy crap ... what a match.
   1126. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:01 PM (#5833086)
And, just to emphasize now - either Tottenham or Ajax will be in a Champions League final.
   1127. jmurph Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5833087)
861. jmurph Posted: April 09, 2019 at 04:57 PM (#5830157)
To revisit our conversation from earlier this season, I still think the league title is more important than the Champions League, but that calculation does NOT include losing to Spurs or any other Premier League team. Blurgh.

SOURCES CONFIRM I STILL FEEL THIS WAY.
   1128. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5833088)
Their opponent also just played in this game. Sure, they have a much better bench, but all of their best players played today, too.

Again, being perfectly frank, City is way better than Tottenham, and they're at home again. And, as you point out, City has a much better bench. Sane barely played today. I assume he's going to start on Saturday and torch us.
   1129. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:05 PM (#5833090)
Of course, if Sissoko's injury is anything at all, I'm not sure who Spurs are going to manage to field against Ajax, or even in the league for the rest of the season.

Oliver Skipp ain't going to cut it ...
   1130. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:06 PM (#5833092)
I still can’t quite believe it. That may not be the best match I’ve ever seen, but it was the most exciting soccer match I’ve ever watched.

Eriksen and Alli were awful. Son was a legend, as was Verts.
   1131. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5833093)
From the Graun MBM:


Post-match interviews

Christian Eriksen “I’m the luckiest guy on the planet with that last goal being disallowed. The whole game was a rollercoaster – goals, goals, goals, goals, and drama everywhere. It was a fun game to play [Really?!].”

Son “I’ve never played in a game like that. We are very proud, it’s an unbelievable night. Sometimes VAR is annoying; today it was ‘thank you, and good decision’. I’m so emotional now that I don’t know what I’m saying!”
   1132. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5833095)
Of course, if Sissoko's injury is anything at all, I'm not sure who Spurs are going to manage to field against Ajax, or even in the league for the rest of the season.

Oliver Skipp ain't going to cut it ...


Is Winks expected to be back any time soon?
   1133. I am going to be Frank Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5833096)
City brought Fernandinho and Sane off the bench. They left Mahrez and Jesus on the bench (plus Stones and Ottamendi, but CB are less likely to be rotated).
   1134. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:09 PM (#5833097)
That game was insane. Also, incredibly pumped that either Ajax or Tottenham will be in the Champions League final.
   1135. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:09 PM (#5833098)
Bugnuts. That match was complete bucking fugnuts.
   1136. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:10 PM (#5833099)
With Spurs injuries (and the Son suspension), I'm guessing that Ajax will be betting favorites ...
   1137. PepTech Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:10 PM (#5833100)
That was the most Spurs-y thing ever, but then, somehow, it wasn't.
   1138. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:11 PM (#5833102)
Tottenham is getting torched Saturday but that’s fine. Just need 2 of Winks/Wanyama/Dier/Sissoko. Ideally Winks and one of Sissoko/Wanyama.
   1139. PepTech Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:12 PM (#5833103)
I love me some Spurs, but I'm pulling for the Ajax train to keep chugging along. Europe needs a winner from outside the top leagues.
   1140. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:13 PM (#5833105)
Current CL odds:

Barcelona 38%
Liverpool 26.5%
Tottenham 19%
Ajax 16.5%
   1141. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:13 PM (#5833106)
Is Winks expected to be back any time soon?


Doesn't sound like it. From the pre-match injury tweet from Spurs, Winks is "continuing rehabilitation and conditioning at Training Centre", which very much sounds like he hasn't returned to training with the team yet.

This is the point where FM would state, Spurs are down to the "bare bones" ...
   1142. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:14 PM (#5833107)
Dier is in the same category as Winks, "continuing rehabilitation and conditioning at Training Centre".

I imagine it's at least 2 weeks before they'd be ready to start a match ...
   1143. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:17 PM (#5833110)
Tottenham 19%
Ajax 16.5%


I think that undersells Ajax AND the extent of Spurs' injuries ...
   1144. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:19 PM (#5833112)
I think that undersells Ajax AND the extent of Spurs' injuries ...

And Son being suspended for the first leg.
   1145. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:20 PM (#5833113)
Barca v Liverpool ... Ajax v Spurs.

Now that's a great pair of semi-final ties!
   1146. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:34 PM (#5833120)
jesus christ

The best thing is Rafa van der Vaart is a happy man tonight. I'm always thinking, what will make that beautiful man happy and this will make him happy. An Ajax-Spurs semi. Can't wait to see him in his half and half scarf. A little worried that Ajax played the long game by stocking Spurs with double agents--Eriksen, Toby, Verts and Sanchez will need to be watched.
   1147. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:43 PM (#5833123)
Eriksen did already try his hardest to eliminate Spurs today...
   1148. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:44 PM (#5833124)
Out of all people, after all the #### we Spurs fans gave him, it was Llorente to score to goal to send Tottenham through.

And it seems fitting that he went up for the header and somehow scored off his hip.
   1149. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:45 PM (#5833125)
   1150. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 06:03 PM (#5833136)
It's got to be said that Aymeric Laporte had one of the worst games you'll ever see. He was even worse than Trippier, I feel.
   1151. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 17, 2019 at 06:28 PM (#5833140)
The result today underscores why Pep's approach in the first leg (if intentional) was probably a mistake. The best teams should flex their superiority for every minute they have available in order to reduce variance.

The one reason for intentionally not doing so is to save players/energy for the long haul, because you can't play your best players at maximum intensity in every game twice a week. Even taking that into account, City's approach seemed to be much more cautious then it needed to be in the first leg.
   1152. Mefisto Posted: April 17, 2019 at 06:29 PM (#5833141)
It's got to be said that Aymeric Laporte had one of the worst games you'll ever see. He was even worse than Trippier, I feel.


I'd like to introduce you to Ashley Young.

I had to record the game and just finished watching. Holy #### what a game. One of the best I've ever seen.
   1153. Mefisto Posted: April 17, 2019 at 06:30 PM (#5833142)
The result today underscores why Pep's approach in the first leg (if intentional) was probably a mistake.


I'm inclined to agree, but if Aguero hadn't missed the PK City would be celebrating right now.
   1154. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 17, 2019 at 06:57 PM (#5833146)
   1155. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 07:17 PM (#5833158)
I agree that Pep playing defensively on the road was really good for Tottenham. Granted Bernardo was hurt, so he couldn't have played regardless. I think Pep cares more about the league though. He also has been hurt on the counter by Poch and Liverpool last year, so I think he was a big pragmatic, but I can't help but think the league mattered more.

I also want to take this moment to state that Raheem Sterling is one of the best soccer players in the world. I don't know where he fits, exactly, it's all very jumbled, but I think he's the best English player there is and I think I'd probably put him as the 2nd best LW in the world behind Hazard. ####, he may be better than Hazard. He is such a terror, he is more thirsty for goals than Hazard.
   1156. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 07:29 PM (#5833160)
538's odds have both semifinals at about 50-50. Should be exciting.
   1157. Jose is an Absurd Kahuna Posted: April 17, 2019 at 10:28 PM (#5833209)
pumped that either Ajax or Tottenham will be in the Champions League final.


Boy I hadn't considered that, holy #### that's wonderful.

I watched the first half at work then listened to most of the second half on the car ride to little league. This must have been grueling for the true Spurs fans (and City fans too). I really thought when City went up 3-2 they were going to finish it out 5-2 or maybe 5-3 but comfortably. Credit to Spurs where it is due. As I got out of the car the Llorente goal was given then I watched the stoppage time on my phone. When the player (Eriksen? I couldn't tell on the little screen) turned back into his own end rather than just punting it down field I immediately had a sinking feeling in my gut then the goal went in then the disallowing...oh man I was dying and I'm not a Spurs fan.

I'm thrilled with the way the draw has worked out. I love that there is going to be a bit of a David vs. Goliath final (as much as it can be at this level) and both semis should be exceptional. I also love that really we have four teams that are going to PLAY. No Juve, no Real or Atletico, this should be some genuinely world class stuff.

Out of all people, after all the #### we Spurs fans gave him, it was Llorente to score to goal to send Tottenham through.


I immediately thought of Derek Lowe after that goal. He was the Red Sox fanbase's whipping boy for a long time but Jesus did he come through in 2004.
   1158. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 17, 2019 at 10:31 PM (#5833211)
When the player (Eriksen? I couldn't tell on the little screen) turned back into his own end rather than just punting it down field I immediately had a sinking feeling in my gut then the goal went in then the disallowing...oh man I was dying and I'm not a Spurs fan.

It was Eriksen. He also had a wild potshot at goal at about 85 minutes when Ederson was slightly off his line rather than keeping possession.
   1159. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: April 17, 2019 at 10:54 PM (#5833214)
Seriously though, how ####### apocalyptically insane would it be if the Champions League final were Liverpool vs Tottenham?
   1160. spivey Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:09 PM (#5833215)
I think Liverpool advances but I’d like another bite at Barca. But, Ajax will be tough. Our home leg will probably be pretty pragmatic stuff. Hopefully Lamela is healthy by then. And one of the mids.
   1161. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:37 AM (#5833221)
Ajax - Liverpool would be a fun 70s throwback final, that I am mildly surprised never actually happened.
   1162. spivey Posted: April 18, 2019 at 01:27 PM (#5833288)
I still can’t believe that match. I didn’t even cheer the VAR decision. Both because of the timing but I also don’t think I had any emotions left to give.

Big ups to jmurph for handling the loss as well as anyone could.

City won xG 2.9 + PK to 1.7. Almost all that diff came after Sissoko came off. We were overrun that second half.
   1163. jmurph Posted: April 18, 2019 at 01:57 PM (#5833302)
Ha, thanks spivey. In addition to being a fan of one of the richest soccer teams on earth, I'm (as you know from the NBA thread) also a Boston sports fan, so I'm ridiculously spoiled and try to keep that in mind when things don't go well!

All these Boston fans/Liverpool or Spurs fans, on the other hand, might get a bit full of themselves... ha.
   1164. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 18, 2019 at 02:45 PM (#5833318)
I didn’t even cheer the VAR decision.


I couldn't ... I rage quit the match after the "winning goal" (I believe this approximates my reaction at the time) ... it was only when I went to close the Guardian MBM tab that I learned the goal had been overturned by VAR and I hastily tuned back in time to watch the final whistle.

I want to watch a replay of the match, but I'm still afraid things will turn out differently ...

Almost all that diff came after Sissoko came off


This is both true ... and almost as insane as the match itself. Moussa SiSUCKo ... a Spurs lynchpin?!?!?!?

O.o?

(funny what can happen when you put a player in a position to succeed ...)
   1165. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:11 PM (#5833331)
Speaking of whom ... this is great ... this is better

Love Poch's entrance!
   1166. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:17 PM (#5833335)
All these Boston fans/Liverpool or Spurs fans, on the other hand, might get a bit full of themselves... ha.

Boston/Spurs fan checking in! Though I don't really care about hockey or basketball.
   1167. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:18 PM (#5833336)
Arsenal with a bad giveaway after a corner leads to a good Napoli break, but Callejon's shot is weak and easily saved by Cech.
   1168. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:25 PM (#5833342)
Chelsea have put their tie away early. Valencia have scored and Villarreal are now down 4-1 on aggregate. Eintracht - Benfica still at 0-0, with Benfica having won the first leg 4-2.

Napoli have the ball in the net but it's offside.
   1169. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:27 PM (#5833344)
This Arsenal - Napoli game is very open. Napoli obviously need to score at least twice as it stands, and Arsenal want the away goal.
   1170. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:27 PM (#5833345)
I'd like to congratulate the corporate douches (on both sides) that managed to negotiate the TV deal for the Europa League knockout stages!

Making it only available on Spanish stations?

Brilliant!!!

That totally doesn't feed back into the narrative of it being a second choice competition
   1171. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:28 PM (#5833346)
I couldn't ... I rage quit the match after the "winning goal" (I believe this approximates my reaction at the time) ... it was only when I went to close the Guardian MBM tab that I learned the goal had been overturned by VAR and I hastily tuned back in time to watch the final whistle.

I immediately started swearing at Eriksen for that pass on the internet (as evidenced in this thread). Fortunately I still had the game on and the overturn was quick.
   1172. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:37 PM (#5833347)
Lacazette scores from a free kick. Didn't know he had that in his kit. The away goal for Arsenal should close out the tie.
   1173. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:37 PM (#5833348)
Well, that's probably that for Napoli.

I thought they'd have been a sterner test over the tie ...
   1174. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 03:52 PM (#5833350)
An Arsenal player wastes pretty much a full minute in first half stoppage time to fix and retie a shoe. That time does not get added back on.
   1175. aberg Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:00 PM (#5833356)
Looks like Chelsea, Arsenal, and Valencia are all pretty much clear to the EL semis. There is still intrigue between Frankfurt and Benfica. Benfica won 4-2 at home in the first leg, but Frankfurt got one back on a close offisde call before halftime. Benfica's manager was ejected for arguing with the referee. Another EF goal in the second half would put them through.
   1176. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:17 PM (#5833360)
Suddenly the score in the Chelsea - Slavia Prague game is 4-3. What the hell is going on there?
   1177. spivey Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:21 PM (#5833366)
I came here to post that same thing Biff.

Semis of the Europa league should be really good. I’m glad teams have the incentive to take it seriously now.
   1178. aberg Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:32 PM (#5833369)
It's strangely appropriate that the teams who are left nearing the end of the EL are exactly the teams fighting for those last CL berths in the big leagues. Chelsea and Arsenal are 4th and 5th in England, Valencia are 3 points off of Sevilla for 4th in La Liga, Franfurt are 4th in Bundesliga, one point clear of Gladbach.
   1179. aberg Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:34 PM (#5833371)
Frankfurt scored again. 2-0 at home, 4-4 on aggregate.
   1180. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5833372)
It's strangely appropriate that the teams who are left nearing the end of the EL are exactly the teams fighting for those last CL berths in the big leagues. Chelsea and Arsenal are 4th and 5th in England, Valencia are 3 points off of Sevilla for 4th in La Liga, Franfurt are 4th in Bundesliga, one point clear of Gladbach.
This is great actually, and ramps up the excitement for the next round. Hopefully Frankfurt can hold on to make it 4 out of 4.
   1181. aberg Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:58 PM (#5833379)
Frankfurt holds on. It will be Arsenal vs Valencia and Chelsea vs Franfurt.
   1182. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 18, 2019 at 05:28 PM (#5833382)
Betting odds for the next CL round and winner. I like Liverpool here, and would be at something like 36/34/15/15 (Liverpool being the 34)

Ajax/Spurs: 50/50
Barcelona/Liverpool 56.5/43.5

Barca odds against Ajax/Spurs 66/34
Liverpool odds against Ajax Spurs 63/37

Barca: 37.5%
Liverpool: 27.5%
Spurs: 17.5%
Ajax: 17.5%






   1183. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 18, 2019 at 05:38 PM (#5833386)
Early Europa odds (top 4 league betting odds in parens)

Chelsea: 40.5% (36)
Arsenal: 27.5% (64)
Valencia: 19% (22)
Frankfurt: 13% (57)

I like Frankfurt here and dislike Chelsea. Maybe something like 36/26/20/18
   1184. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 18, 2019 at 05:47 PM (#5833387)
With the results of the QFs, the EPL pulled ahead of La Liga in the UEFA coefficient race for this year. With 4 teams in versus La Liga's 2, the EPL looks likely to finish ahead for the second year in a row. It's not over yet though, especially since Barca and Valencia could perform very well against Liverpool and Arsenal.

The EPL will now have a higher point total than they did last year (and any other recent year).
   1185. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 18, 2019 at 06:02 PM (#5833389)
It's fitting that Italy is out at the QF stage. They've had a poor showing in Europe this year overall--among the worst of any top 4 league over the last 5 years. (Italy was also not good in 2015/2016, and Germany was very bad last year, but that's it.) Germany this year didn't send many teams to the QFs and beyond, but they started off very strongly so haven't actually done that badly in Europe overall this year.
   1186. PepTech Posted: April 18, 2019 at 07:31 PM (#5833394)
It's Europa, so I don't really care all that much, but the idea of a London derby being played in Baku is hilarious.
   1187. spivey Posted: April 18, 2019 at 08:22 PM (#5833405)
Frankfurt got lucky, their first goal was a yard offside. I am happy they got it, though, as I think if they qualify in CL it's a lot more likely they're able to keep the gang together. There's already been rumblings from Jovic's dad that he may want to stay there for another year. I don't think he wants to go somewhere he's not a locked in starter.

The EPL has finally come to the forefront of world soccer. I think it's a combination of the golden generations of Barca/Real/Atletico wrapping up, the money finally helping, but more than anything I think they finally started getting the best managers. There were a few years there where the league had money, but they were just splashing 30 million on random players with no thought on how they'd fit into the system, those players would get like 3 or 4 games to hit the ground running, and would get immediately benched when it didn't work.

Spain still has the language, weather, and deep national talent to where the middle and bottom of the league will always be very deep, but the top 6 is really there in England. Clubelo has 6 of the top 11 teams in the world from England, 538 has 5 of the top 13.
   1188. Sean Forman Posted: April 18, 2019 at 11:46 PM (#5833458)
I have no idea what to expect from City this weekend and then they have Utd at mid-week.

After last year when they lost to Liverpool and then blew the Derby to clinch the title. I could see it going either way. I'm hoping they'll be amped up to win the title now. We'll know a lot more about the title race Wednesday night.
   1189. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 19, 2019 at 06:38 PM (#5833613)
City/Spurs game ended at around 10pm Wednesday night in Manchester, and kickoff is tomorrow at 12:30 in Manchester. That's a cool 62.5 hours.

   1190. Mefisto Posted: April 19, 2019 at 06:42 PM (#5833615)
What City do have going for them is a much deeper roster at this point in time. Spurs have to hope adrenaline will make up the difference.
   1191. A sad, lost penguin wandering the tundra, dreaming Posted: April 19, 2019 at 08:10 PM (#5833636)
I have a feeling Poch is going to rotate as much as he can, I think he, like most everyone, has written this game off.

Far better to be as strong as possible for Brighton on Tuesday.

AND NO MORE ####### INJURIES!
   1192. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 20, 2019 at 07:01 AM (#5833695)
Still no start for Sane. Did he piss Pep off or something?

Heavy rotation for Spurs at the back but Alli/Eriksen/Moura/Son start again. Surprisingly Lloris gets a day off. Trippier also gets a day off and Spurs are playing 4 center backs plus Ben Davis. Not clear to me who will be at right back (or right wing back).
   1193. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 20, 2019 at 07:34 AM (#5833696)
Ugh they're wearing the similar-colored jerseys again.
   1194. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 20, 2019 at 07:37 AM (#5833697)
And with all our CBs none of them track Aguero's run.
   1195. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 20, 2019 at 08:26 AM (#5833700)
Son's finishing isn't here today.
   1196. Jose is an Absurd Kahuna Posted: April 20, 2019 at 09:27 AM (#5833706)
I was about to say Son was invisible in the second half. I don’t think I heard his name 5 times after the break. Dude has earned a bad day but I’m a bit surprised he never came off. Seems like this would have been a day to just give him half an hour off and try to get something elsewhere.

Jesus, who was that gigantic man shaking Foden’s hand after the game? That dude was about 6’8”.
   1197. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 20, 2019 at 09:33 AM (#5833707)
Really not impressed with Michael Oliver today. City got away with a lot of cynical fouls, time wasting, and dives. Sterling in particular was itching for a fight for the last 20 minutes and it took until injury time for him to finally get a yellow. Then because "both sides" Vertonghen got a yellow as well despite not doing anything. Oh, and that whole scenario took 2 minutes yet no more time got added on.
   1198. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 20, 2019 at 09:37 AM (#5833709)
Far from a great game by City, but they were the better team and did just enough to win. I think if they win at United there's a high percentage chance they win the EPL. After midweek Liverpool has the tougher league schedule, and Barcelona.
   1199. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 20, 2019 at 10:44 AM (#5833715)
Actually their schedules are similar after midweek. But both fairly easy, and City probably wins out 2/3 of the time. I'd put the odds of City winning the title if they beat United at 75% minimum.
   1200. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: April 20, 2019 at 11:54 AM (#5833730)
Brighton held on for the draw. Wolves had all the possession but only created a few real chances. Huddersfield did score, so won't break the record for fewest goals in an EPL season, but Watford is now really in the driver's seat for the Europa league. Leicester with some late drama to get just a draw against West Ham.
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