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Monday, February 24, 2014

OT: The NHL is finally back thread, part 2

Now that the Olympics are over it’s time for the important Hockey to restart.

odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: February 24, 2014 at 05:54 PM | 970 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   401. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 01, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4698392)
I expect that if there's a technological/data breakthrough relating to goaltending in the future, it will have to do with knowing exactly what your goaltender's strong and weak zones are and tailoring your defensive strategy to encourage shots toward his strong zones and discourage shots toward his weak zones. I imagine there's some of this being done already, but I also imagine we're a long way from having really reliable data to work from and it still mostly relies on scouting reports.
   402. Shredder Posted: May 01, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4698432)
Chicago-LA would be a great series to watch given the contrast in styles.
Meh. We saw it last year and it wasn't pretty. Kings just can't skate with the Hawks. Tough to hit guys you can't catch.
   403. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 08:26 AM (#4698701)
What a great start to the second round last night.
   404. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4699046)
Day late and a dollar short but ducks in 7 hawks in 6 pens in 6 and bruins in 6
   405. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:09 PM (#4699254)
Prepare for a lot of Lundqvist worship this week.
   406. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:21 PM (#4699257)
So five minutes in, we have the first Fluery softie. Might as well get it out of the way.
   407. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:23 PM (#4699259)
dont forget carcilio cheapshot
   408. zack Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:38 PM (#4699264)
So five minutes in, we have the first Fluery softie. Might as well get it out of the way.

I'm not sure any relatively um-molested goal from that position is ever really a softie. WTF was Maatta doing?
   409. Langer Monk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:38 PM (#4699265)
Prepare for a lot of Lundqvist worship this week.


My mute button is already getting tired.
   410. SteveF Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:50 PM (#4699278)
There was a game in San Jose where Crosby put up a -5. Let's see if he can top that tonight.
   411. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4699279)
The Penguins are just outclassed. The cries for Bylsma's head are getting shrill indeed--a lot of "this team is not prepared" in twitterworld--but perhaps Penguins followers should give some consideration to the possibility that on roster spots 3 through 19 the Penguins are one of the worst teams in the NHL.

This isn't the NBA. The superstars can only play a third of the game, and can only handle the puck for a fraction of that time.
   412. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 07:57 PM (#4699282)
I can't find any reliable information on why Orpik keeps getting scratched for an "undisclosed injury". Either it's concussion symptoms or the Penguins are doing a long-loyal player a good turn by not admitting they're healthy scratching him as his free agency approaches. I think it's likely the former, but don't really know.
   413. zack Posted: May 02, 2014 at 08:07 PM (#4699286)
Nevermind.
   414. Langer Monk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4699291)
2 goal leads aren't what they used to be.
   415. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:02 PM (#4699341)
That game was just so Penguins.

NBC ought to put Yakity Sax on whenever the puck's in the Penguins' end. Good god.
   416. SteveF Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:22 PM (#4699347)
That game really was a pretty good illustration of what the Penguins are. Are the period #2s going to outnumber the period #1s is the only question.

That series really is (or was) a coin flip.
   417. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4699349)
Intent to blow rule sucks. So close on a goal there. Great play to get it on net to begin with
   418. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 10:26 PM (#4699351)
There should be a penalty for that late hit...
   419. zack Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4699366)
Wait, two powerplay goals...in the same game? THAT'S LEGAL?!?!
   420. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 02, 2014 at 11:57 PM (#4699382)
Hawks are bwing way to sloppy with the puck
   421. zack Posted: May 03, 2014 at 12:00 AM (#4699384)
Jesus. Jesus christ.
   422. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 03, 2014 at 12:51 AM (#4699407)
well thats one way to end a game, kane looked very good in the third.
   423. Langer Monk Posted: May 03, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4699628)
Bruins need to pull their #### together.
   424. zack Posted: May 03, 2014 at 02:56 PM (#4699630)
If they keep falling for the Habs trap they're going to have a bad time.
   425. zack Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4699638)
How the hell did that go in.
   426. Langer Monk Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4699639)
I think that hit the D-man on his leg.
   427. Langer Monk Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:13 PM (#4699640)
Nope, nevermind, that was a crazy bounce.
   428. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4699644)
Canadiens gonna Canadien.

Don't forget, friends in the media: This is all Carey Price's fault.
   429. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:19 PM (#4699645)
I cannot believe what I've watched over the last 10 minutes. They woke the hell up.
   430. SteveF Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4699647)
I cannot believe what I've watched over the last 10 minutes.

Anyone who has watched the Canadiens this year can believe the last 10 minutes all too well.
   431. zack Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4699649)
Yeah, not really surprising that when the Bruins decided to play hockey they wiped the floor with them. With a bounce or two.
   432. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4699650)
Anyone who has watched the Canadiens this year can believe the last 10 minutes all too well.


What do you mean "this year"?
   433. SteveF Posted: May 03, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4699653)
What do you mean "this year"?

They've been highly inconsistent this year, though arguably that's been the case for a while now I suppose. This year has been particularly bad in terms of how they play period to period.
   434. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 03, 2014 at 10:45 PM (#4699842)
This has to be a record for moat overtime games in a playoff for the nhl. Seema like at least half have gone that route
   435. Shredder Posted: May 04, 2014 at 01:33 AM (#4699880)
Well, I guess hockey on radio can be compelling. Missed the Kings/Ducks game because I was driving back for playing 36 holes at Blackwolf Run and Whistling Straits, and man, the tension on every shot is palpable. I'd rather watch, but listening to the stream on the way home was fun. I actually could have watched the live stream while driving, but I figured that might be a little dangerous.
   436. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 04, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4699993)
looks like versteeg will play today, was sic for game 1. I wouldnt mind if they put morin and regin into the lineup today.
   437. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 04, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4700003)
And i was wrong about versteeg. Morin will play instead of him.
   438. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 04, 2014 at 04:29 PM (#4700036)
Well thats a bs call there, they missed the obvious penalty when morin got driven into the boards
   439. Langer Monk Posted: May 04, 2014 at 05:36 PM (#4700067)
Keep aiming at that corner, Bickell.
   440. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 04, 2014 at 08:00 PM (#4700104)
"This team is so undisciplined it's embarrassing, Bylsma needs to go" should be trending on Twitter right about..... now.
   441. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: May 05, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4700582)
I expect a strong push back from the Ducks tonight. Obviously they should have won the first game, but I would expect their very best tonight.

Either way, the Kings are in a strong position. Although defensemen a dropping like flies, apparently Jeff Schultz will be playing tonight. I didn't even know he was in the Kings organization until I read it this morning. Doughty and Voynov play practically the entire game anyway.
   442. Yardape Posted: May 05, 2014 at 04:39 PM (#4700591)
Don't forget, friends in the media: This is all Carey Price's fault.


Hmmm, I thought the Montreal story was "it's all P.K. Subban's fault". You know, for doing un-defenceman-like things like scoring goals and getting assists.
   443. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4700612)
It seems Brooks Orpik is indeed a healthy scratch. If you can't make the Penguins' defensive rotation, you are probably finished.

The resistable force meets the moveable object once again in New York tonight!
   444. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4700785)
The Rangers just allowed possibly the LOL goal of the playoffs, quite a feat considering Marc-Andre Fleury is in them.

If they keep embarrassing themselves like this and making a practical joke out of the power play, Tortorella's probably going to get fired.
   445. Langer Monk Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:23 PM (#4700828)
Back-to-back shutouts of the Rangers? I'm on board.
   446. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:29 PM (#4700837)
It is interesting that the Canucks switched Vigneault for Tortorella and abruptly collapsed, while the Rangers switched Tortorella for Vigneault and had pretty near exactly the same season over again.
   447. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:54 PM (#4700893)
The ice in Honda Center tonight seems to be roughly the consistency of a 7-11 Slurpee.
   448. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: May 06, 2014 at 01:01 AM (#4700922)
Jeff Schultz, who didn't play a single game with the Kings all season, had 19:58 of ice time tonight. More than two of the regular defensemen. Sutter is hilarious.
   449. Shredder Posted: May 06, 2014 at 01:46 AM (#4700938)
Schultz earned it. He played Great. Really nice to see the Kings have the home crowd for the entire series. How embarrassing for Anaheim. If the Angels played the Dodgers in a World Series, I doubt we'd see the same thing. But the Ducks just simply don't have fans. I'd feel bad for their players if the weren't dirty.
   450. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 06, 2014 at 03:51 AM (#4700947)
nice to see the nut punch is alivve and well this playoff round. though it is rather ballsy for a goalie to be the one doing it.
   451. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 06, 2014 at 07:42 AM (#4700960)
Wasn't it Ron Hextall who used to put his stick between the legs of an opponent who crowded in on him and smash it upward into his balls? Maybe it was Tom Barrasso, but my dim memory of my early childhood says Hextall.
   452. Shredder Posted: May 06, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4701198)
When trying to remember which retired goaltender was the one who use to do certain things to injure opponents, Hextall is usually a pretty good bet. Kind of like always guessing Emily Dickinson when poetry is a category on Jeopardy.
   453. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: May 06, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4701286)
Chris Kuc ?@ChrisKuc 53m
#Blackhawks defenseman Niklas Hjalmarsson is not medically cleared to talk after taking puck to throat in Game 2.


Ouch.
   454. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 02:28 PM (#4701299)
Fortunately, nobody could understand him before anyway. (Well, maybe Oduya and Kruger).
   455. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 06, 2014 at 02:31 PM (#4701305)
Wasn't it Ron Hextall who used to put his stick between the legs of an opponent who crowded in on him and smash it upward into his balls? Maybe it was Tom Barrasso, but my dim memory of my early childhood says Hextall.


Patrick Roy once lifted his stick directly into Dino Ciccarelli's gentleman's region with a fair amount of enthusiasm.
   456. Pooty Lederhosen Posted: May 06, 2014 at 04:12 PM (#4701458)
I don't know of a single goalie who hasn't regularly used his stick as a weapon, if not to the cup than to the back of the knees. The front of the net doesn't see many tea parties.
   457. ursus arctos Posted: May 06, 2014 at 04:18 PM (#4701465)
True, but Hextall and Billy Smith were masters of the art.
   458. Shredder Posted: May 06, 2014 at 05:10 PM (#4701514)
Mike Smith is pretty good at it too. Amazingly, Brown got a penalty for diving on that one. Because when someone takes a lumberjack hack at the back of your knee, apparently refs think you must be embellishing if you actually go down for a second.
   459. ursus arctos Posted: May 06, 2014 at 05:39 PM (#4701545)
Yes, Smith is probably the most accomplished of the current crop in this regard, and his namesake Billy would have been proud of that hack (and thrilled at the result).
   460. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4701548)
I don't know if I've posted it before, but the name of this video is "14 minutes of pissed-off goalies", and I think that says everything it needs to.

I agree with #456 though, what I think of Hextall is him going nuts out of the crease, not the regular chops from in it. As a Blackhawks fan, Belfour was definitely a practitioner of the dark arts, he has a mega-chop to the "groin area" at 3:10 of that video.
   461. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4701549)
I think I've watched this video 3 times now, and the sheer numbers of guys failing to break their sticks has tears in my eyes. Swing it in the short direction, guys!
   462. SteveF Posted: May 06, 2014 at 05:54 PM (#4701553)
I'll always remember Belfour as the guy who tried to bribe his way out of a DUI by offering the arresting officers $1 billion dollars.
   463. steagles Posted: May 06, 2014 at 07:40 PM (#4701627)
has anyone ever explained why exactly the new york rangers had to play 5 games in 7 days including 2 back to backs in different cities?
   464. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 06, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4701655)
Because the league office wants Pittsburgh to succeed.

Seriously, I don't know. Anything Bettman touches is subject to "don't assume malice where stupidity is an adequate explanation."

Vigneault publicly blaming his team's inability to score against a team that is comically bad in its own end was seriously weak, though. Even if that's an element to it, you can't as a leader tell the world "it's not our fault." I know John "our players are horseshit" Tortorella isn't in danger of making millions writing leadership books, but Vigneault's "blame somebody else" strategy is just as bad, on the opposite end of the pendulum.
   465. zonk Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4701694)
Hawks are playing awfully sloppy...
   466. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:42 PM (#4701696)
I think the terrible scheduling for the Rangers might be due to MSG availability, but it's too annoying to look up on the site.

Does it matter that on that Haula breakaway, Keith hits his hand with the flat of the blade rather than getting the hook over his hands? That's no longer by definition a hook, but it probably still should have a been a penalty, no? Slash?
   467. Langer Monk Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:49 PM (#4701705)
I think the terrible scheduling for the Rangers might be due to MSG availability


Supposedly, MSG isn't available Thursday or Friday this week.
   468. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:50 PM (#4701707)
If the Bruins manage to win this, so help me.
   469. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 10:06 PM (#4701720)
NBC has the chances for the first period of 'hawks-Wild at 1-1. This game might make a run at last night's Pit game for most boring of the playoffs.
   470. zonk Posted: May 06, 2014 at 10:13 PM (#4701728)
Does it matter that on that Haula breakaway, Keith hits his hand with the flat of the blade rather than getting the hook over his hands? That's no longer by definition a hook, but it probably still should have a been a penalty, no? Slash?


Yeah - probably slashing... I guess it wasn't 'forceful' or whatever the slashing rule says. Maybe give him a minute for half hooking/another minute for half slashing.

I think Keith had the presence of mind to know a quick little whack wouldn't be seen... of course, he also set up it by getting a little antsy.
   471. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4701756)
Hopefully this will open the game up. That was a real nice play, and a real fortunate bounce.
   472. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: May 06, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4701767)
The Hawks have taken a stupid amount of penalties, which is part of the reason this series has been relatively close, but I will say the Wild have been playing the Hawks really well, mucking up the neutral zone and such. Not a lot of quality chances for the Hawks tonight.
   473. zack Posted: May 06, 2014 at 11:39 PM (#4701777)
$5 trillion dollars says that the articles about this game involve the words "flat" and "compete level" for the Blackhawks.
   474. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: May 07, 2014 at 01:40 PM (#4702244)
$5 trillion dollars says that the articles about this game involve the words "flat" and "compete level" for the Blackhawks.

I totally agree, and yet, there's something to that buried way beneath the easy narrative. The Wild were quicker to the puck, did a better job clogging passing lanes, and they just generated more quality chances. Bryz gets the shutout, but I'm not sure he had a tough save. The 3 best chances for the Hawks were Keith off the post on the PP, Kane's move where he just lost the puck right in front of the open net, and the Toews when he shot it right into Bryz's chest late.

Doesn't seem like there was a real good reason to bench Leddy - while I do agree Brookbank played well against StL, I bet a lot of that had to do with being paired with Keith, and he played with him a lot last night - last night was the type of game Leddy would have been useful. But they bench Leddy and kinda jumbled the defensive pairings. I think that impacted the flow of the game.

The Hawks have taken a stupid amount of penalties, which is part of the reason this series has been relatively close,

They're really cut back since the Blues series, but they're still mostly dumb, lazy ones they're taking.
   475. Langer Monk Posted: May 07, 2014 at 09:45 PM (#4702655)
It's rather stunning how poor the Rangers suddenly have become this week.
   476. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:12 PM (#4702665)
Penguins fans everywhere are counting their lucky stars the Rangers managed to put the Flyers away before they packed it in for the summer. Now if Montreal can just finish Boston, the Penguins actually have a fair shot at reaching the Finals.
   477. SteveF Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:38 PM (#4702672)
It's rather stunning how poor the Rangers suddenly have become this week.

The Rangers just aren't very good. It was a tough series to pick. The Penguins have issues, but the extent to which people (not here, but in the media) got on that Rangers bandwagon was ludicrous. The only question was whether the Penguins would find a way to implode. They haven't. Frankly, they've looked pretty damn good in their own end the past few games.
   478. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:55 PM (#4702677)
Except for that horrendous blunder by Niskanen that handed the Rangers their first goal. Not as LOL as the Jokinen goal Sunday, but still pretty funny.
   479. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 08, 2014 at 02:24 AM (#4702712)
Tje pens make it to the finals they will promptly lose to any team that comes out of the west.
   480. Langer Monk Posted: May 08, 2014 at 08:59 AM (#4702765)
I suspect that most people thought the Rangers would find a way to make the Pens implode, but instead they've been 'flat' and 'low levels of compete' to borrow some phrases, and pretty dumb too. I don't think the Pens have looked all that good, I think the Rangers have not shown up - which is surprising in their own building especially. I said Pens in 7 because I figure at the very least, the Rangers would play 3 strong home games. They've been awful.

Right now, I expect any of the 4 remaining West teams are a heavy to moderate (Minnesota) favorite over any of the last 4 East teams.
   481. zack Posted: May 08, 2014 at 09:34 AM (#4702789)
The Penguins have issues, but the extent to which people (not here, but in the media) got on that Rangers bandwagon was ludicrous

I picked the Rangers not because I don't like the Pens, I think their defense and goaltending issues are way overblown. I picked the Rags because I thought they are a better team, they had much better possession numbers because the Pens are absurdly top-heavy. Decent possession + Lundqvist is a pretty good team, unless their offense completely dries up (which is not terribly suprising, but I don't think the most likely outcome).
   482. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: May 08, 2014 at 09:34 AM (#4702790)
Right now, I expect any of the 4 remaining West teams are a heavy to moderate (Minnesota) favorite over any of the last 4 East teams.

Nah. The Bruins would be heavy favorites against the Wild and slight favorites against the Ducks. Probably 50/50 with the Kings and Hawks.
   483. Yardape Posted: May 08, 2014 at 01:51 PM (#4702953)
Nah. The Bruins would be heavy favorites against the Wild and slight favorites against the Ducks. Probably 50/50 with the Kings and Hawks.


I would think the Penguins would be favored over the Wild as well, although I suppose if the Wild somehow make it through Chicago and LA that might force a reevaluation. Right now I'd even think Montreal might be even with Minnesota, they've been playing pretty well since the trade deadline.

Don't forget, friends in the media: This is all Carey Price's fault.


Hmmm, I thought the Montreal story was "it's all P.K. Subban's fault".


Don Cherry got my memo.
   484. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 02:43 PM (#4702981)
I remember last year we made note of how the final four were the last four champions (Blackhawks, Kings, Bruins, Penguins). Don't look now, but chances are pretty good--Boston's down 2-1 to Montreal, but come on, they're Montreal--that we're going to get the same final four this year. That's amazing.
   485. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: May 08, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4703018)
Don't look now, but chances are pretty good--Boston's down 2-1 to Montreal, but come on, they're Montreal--that we're going to get the same final four this year. That's amazing.

From Down Goes Brown:

That would be an especially rare result, not just in the NHL but across North American pro sports. The NHL has only had one repeat final four since the Original Six era (it happened in 1977). And according to the Elias Sports Bureau, it’s only happened once in MLB (1978) and once in the NBA (1952); it’s never happened in the Super Bowl–era NFL.
   486. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 09, 2014 at 03:26 AM (#4703222)
what the hell does leddy do to keep ending up in the doghouse? This is the first time I saw he didnt play game 3...had to work so I missed it....very annoying that q keeps ####### with him.
   487. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: May 09, 2014 at 04:22 AM (#4703229)
He's one of my favorite players but...

Voynov can go #### himself for that decision to try to challenge for the puck at the red line (!) during the penalty kill (!!) which directly led to the easy 2 on 1 goal for Selanne. One of the dumbest plays I've seen all season. Pretty much lost the game. And yeah, it would have helped if Martinez had taken away the pass like you are supposed to instead of just standing there. But still.

Not much urgency from Sutter in this game. Didn't play his best guys big minutes. The fourth liners were out there far more than they typically are, Schultz - who, again, never played a game for the team all season - was third on the team in ice time. Trevor Lewis had more ice time than Justin Williams and led the team in shots on goal. And this after two days off. Weird.

   488. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 09, 2014 at 09:28 AM (#4703277)
That would be an especially rare result, not just in the NHL but across North American pro sports. The NHL has only had one repeat final four since the Original Six era (it happened in 1977).


That's pretty amazing considering some combination of 4 pairings faced each other in 8 consecutive Stanley Cups.
1990 Edmonton v Boston
1989 Calgary v Montreal
1988 Edmonton v Boston
1987 Edmonton v Philadelphia
1986 Montreal v Calgary
1985 Edmonton v Philadelphia
1984 Edmonton v NYI
1983 NYI v Edmonton

You would have thought there might have been at least two years with consecutive final four pairings....
   489. Shredder Posted: May 09, 2014 at 11:06 AM (#4703390)
Voynov can go #### himself for that decision to try to challenge for the puck at the red line (!) during the penalty kill (!!) which directly led to the easy 2 on 1 goal for Selanne. One of the dumbest plays I've seen all season. Pretty much lost the game. And yeah, it would have helped if Martinez had taken away the pass like you are supposed to instead of just standing there. But still.
It also may have helped if the game had anything close to competent officiating.
   490. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: May 09, 2014 at 10:01 PM (#4703799)
Rozsival's not been particularly impressive this series, by my eye (haven't looked at the stats).
   491. Langer Monk Posted: May 09, 2014 at 10:57 PM (#4703834)
Impressive goaltending in Minnesota tonight.
   492. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: May 09, 2014 at 11:29 PM (#4703867)
Crawford isn't having his best day, but the skaters have done nothing to help him.
   493. zack Posted: May 09, 2014 at 11:31 PM (#4703869)
Whatever the Wild are doing to supress shots so much is 1) leading to really boring games and 2) making me pessimistic.
   494. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: May 10, 2014 at 12:00 AM (#4703885)
Whatever the Wild are doing to supress shots so much is 1) leading to really boring games and 2) making me pessimistic.


I know this is lazy analysis, but the Hawks really do look lethargic out there. And maybe it's because Q has only been skating 9 forwards throughout the postseason. Q has to find a 4th line he can "trust" or whatever because playing Morin/Bollig/Nordstrom 2 minutes a game isn't working.

And ugh I hate to make this comparison because I'm a Dortmund fan but this reminds me of Bayern (Hawks) against Real Madrid (Wild). The Wild have done an amazing job of pressuring the puck holder, allowing the Hawks little room to be creative. They're also snuffing out rebounds quickly.
   495. SteveF Posted: May 10, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4703887)
22-22-19 and now this game looks like it'll end up somewhere in that 19-22 range. That's 2 goals a game territory.
   496. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: May 10, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4704061)
Total domination by the Wild. Again, the Hawks didn't have very many good chances and Crawford had his first real bad game. I still think they win this series, but the Hawks haven't been themselves since about January and I have faint hopes of that turning around this season at this point.

This ridiculous blown call sequence didn't affect the outcome, but the broadcast didn't catch it either. No idea how they miss 6 guys for 15 seconds. I also think the Bollig hit could have easily been called a major.
   497. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 10, 2014 at 07:48 PM (#4704239)
Bolling got a 2 game suspension for boarding. Really just helps the hawks. But 2 games for a minor penalty and yet guys are spearing like crazy with no suspensions and sometimes no fines.
   498. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 10, 2014 at 09:38 PM (#4704269)
I can't imagine the Bruins are even going to feel a speed bump in the conference final, regardless of who they play.

As for Rangers/Penguins, I have no idea what to expect in Game 6. I'm torn between the "The Penguins are collapsing like only they can" line of thought and the "We just saw everything the Rangers had left in Game 5 and now they're spent" line of thought.
   499. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 10, 2014 at 11:12 PM (#4704293)
Does anyone have any information on why Jonathan Quick was yanked? He gave up two goals in the first and certainly could have stopped at least one of them, but there were no Fleury Specials there, it's one period and he's Jonathan F. Quick. Is he hurt?

EDIT: I take that back after seeing the replay for myself, that was definitely a Fleury Special. Still seems harsh to yank him for that one misplay.
   500. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 10, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4704298)
Kind of had the sense that there was a little of the old Mike Keenan move to use it as a way to shake things up a bit. Gets Quick a little break and maybe it jars the team into some action.

Thought the Bruins played their best game of the post-season tonight. That third period was the B's doing a really beautiful job of locking down a lead. I'll be surprised if the Habs don't send it back to the Garden for a game seven but that was a terrific performance. I thought Subban looked like he was a bit physically worn down and also mentally letting himself get caught up in some of the chippiness.
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