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OT: The Soccer Thread: April 2011

No fancy intro this time. An exciting month of League, Champions League and Cup play to come. Have at it!

RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 01, 2011 at 11:05 PM | 934 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:46 AM (#3783963)
Hammers - just when I think they are out, they pull me back in.
   2. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3784065)
Villareal-Barcelona tomorrow should be interesting. Nilmar plays, Xavi suspended. A real chance for the Yellow Submarine.
   3. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:00 PM (#3784239)
WEST 'AAAAAAAAAAAAM!

wow, Manchester United doesnt want to put Arsenal away.
   4. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:01 PM (#3784240)
Holy crap - now I am really edgy - come on you irons!!
   5. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:04 PM (#3784242)
Man United throwing everything at the Hammers already - going to be a real long battle watching this one.
   6. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:11 PM (#3784247)
oh my ####### god!!! I don't care if it was a penalty or not - go hammers!!!
   7. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:14 PM (#3784249)
Woops missed the new thread...
   8. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:17 PM (#3784251)
Holy mother of god - how did Green save that?!?!
   9. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:21 PM (#3784253)
I couldn't get up early for West Ham/United, but did for India/Sri Lanka...glad I did, although I'm torn between wanting United to lose and needing the Hammers to stick around the relegation zone. Oh screw it..hang on you Hammers (and get at least 260 Sri Lanka!)!

But the actual game I'm watching via video is G. Furth-Duisberg...need a goal green people!
   10. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 02, 2011 at 12:56 PM (#3784270)
I have a feeling the second half of this game is going to be like the German attack at the end of Saving Private Ryan, with West Ham as Tom Hanks and company.
   11. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:00 PM (#3784272)
I couldn't get up early for West Ham/United, but did for India/Sri Lanka...glad I did, although I'm torn between wanting United to lose and needing the Hammers to stick around the relegation zone. Oh screw it..hang on you Hammers (and get at least 260 Sri Lanka!)!


260 looking real good - i'm thinking maybe 265 even- I'm watching two games at once here - tough stuff. Right now I'm watching the cricket - told my mate to text me when Man U inevitably score in the second half. Jesus Christ I'm on tenderhooks - c'mon Hammers!!
   12. Flynn Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:01 PM (#3784273)
I completely forgot the World Cup final was today. I am so pissed off!
   13. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:02 PM (#3784275)
Mahela with a stunning century - Sri Lanka are really under rated by Australian cricket fans - god knows why.
   14. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:08 PM (#3784277)
18 from the last over to get 274 - very good score. They said 270-280 was the target - game on !!
   15. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:08 PM (#3784278)
A run rate of almost 13 for those last five overs! Quite a target at 274...pressure, baby, pressure in Mumbai. But enough pressure? Should be a very fun next few hours.
   16. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:09 PM (#3784279)
####
   17. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:11 PM (#3784283)
I have a feeling the second half of this game is going to be like the German attack at the end of Saving Private Ryan, with West Ham as Tom Hanks and company.


The troops won't make it out of the boat alive here

2-1 - damn
   18. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:11 PM (#3784284)
Did anybody see the game where Blackpool was up 2-0 nil v. United at halftime? Replace the word "corner" with "penalty" and, unfortunately, you might have the same game here.

Is that Avram Grant actually looking animated on the touchline there? My eyes must be deceiving me.

And I really like Rooney at left back...a very funny few seconds there.
   19. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:12 PM (#3784285)
Should be a very fun next few hours.


I could be dead within the hour
   20. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:14 PM (#3784287)
Did anybody see the game where Blackpool was up 2-0 nil v. United at halftime? Replace the word "corner" with "penalty" and, unfortunately, you might have the same game here.


Yeah - I'll still be happy with a point - but that is looking remote with all the ball Man U has
   21. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:18 PM (#3784289)
Damn. Well, that's not entirely unexpected. Now West Ham have to try and hold on for the point.
   22. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:19 PM (#3784290)
argh!

Edit: I'm guessing I'm owing somebody a coke.
   23. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:20 PM (#3784291)
West Ham will be lucky to hold on - it will take some amazing saves from Green. They can't hold onto the ball

There's one save on Berbatov
   24. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:21 PM (#3784292)
Corners 15-0 to Man U - that says it all really
   25. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:23 PM (#3784293)
No way - no ####### way

There goes that little dream

I've never seen a team have so little ball, it's mind boggling
   26. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:23 PM (#3784294)
What an absolutely ridiculous penalty call.
   27. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:24 PM (#3784295)
Aw, that's horrible. Great run by Rafael, but shiite call.
   28. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:24 PM (#3784296)
Well, that's just better talent coming through. Disappointing, but luckily not fatal for West Ham's survival since no reasonable prediction had them taking points here.
   29. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:29 PM (#3784298)
That went to pieces quick.
   30. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:29 PM (#3784299)
If I read these "live" odds right, William Hill still has India as a slight favorite despite the 274 from SL (1.95 for SL). If I weren't living in puritanical America, I might have to put a fiver on Sri Lanka at that price.

</diversion from suckiness of events in East London>
   31. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:30 PM (#3784300)
That 4th goal was pretty funny. The cross somehow manages to go through 2 sets of legs.
   32. Randy Jones Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:30 PM (#3784301)
Terrible d by Upson on the fourth goal. He can't let that ball go through his legs.

Aw, that's horrible. Great run by Rafael, but shiite call.


Fabio, and it was a weak call.
   33. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:32 PM (#3784304)
What can you do - they have had ALL the ball. I'm proud of the Hammers.

India should still be favourites - Sri Lankas strength is their batting not bowling in my opinion and that ground is tiny. I'm thinking India will still win and I need them to for my multi anyway!!
   34. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:34 PM (#3784306)
Fabio, and it was a weak call.


Yep - the second Hammers penalty was dodgy as well - gut wrenching still to watch it unfold I guess. I feel sick
   35. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:36 PM (#3784307)
Fabio


Oh, sorry...my Sopcast screen is REAL dinky what with all the screens I've got going on now. Sehwag with a duck!...or "on the duck" or "eats a duck" or whatever they call that.
   36. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:37 PM (#3784308)
Oh, sorry...my Sopcast screen is REAL dinky what with all the screens I've got going on now.


My screen needs the tears wiped off it
   37. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:39 PM (#3784309)
Sorry Phil...how about venting some of that rage/shattered dreams into a healthy hatred of Newcastle United for a couple of hours?
   38. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:40 PM (#3784310)
If I read these "live" odds right, William Hill still has India as a slight favorite despite the 274 from SL (1.95 for SL). If I weren't living in puritanical America, I might have to put a fiver on Sri Lanka at that price.

You can change the odds from decimal if you don't like them that way... Anyways 2.00 is even money, 1.95 with the vig is essentially right around 50/50. Of course that line by now has moved wa down to 1.6, which means SL are comfortable favourites right now...
   39. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:42 PM (#3784311)
Sorry Phil...how about venting some of that rage/shattered dreams into a healthy hatred of Newcastle United for a couple of hours?

Aww! What has Newcastle ever done to... oh forget it.
   40. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:45 PM (#3784313)
FPH: I like the decimal odds best (not that I know anything about them FBI officials, living in the U.S. and all), but was just trying to figure out WH's website. I guess the "live" betting is very popular these days, as it went straight there instead of to upcoming fixtures.

Or maybe today is a just a wild day in the UK for "live" betting..that would make sense.

Go Wolves...wuff, wuff...
   41. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:47 PM (#3784314)
Sorry Phil...how about venting some of that rage/shattered dreams into a healthy hatred of Newcastle United for a couple of hours?


I've been watching sport not stop since the end of the Philly game roughly 17 hours ago - I'm spent!! Might watch a bit of cricket and go to bed. Early wicket - I missed it, but Sachin is still there and Yuvraj is still to come in. I still have India as slight favourites
   42. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:49 PM (#3784317)
My bookie has India at slight 1.82 favourites over SL at 1.95

Holy crap - Tendulker with a classic on drive!!!Brilliant shot !

edit - now a brilliant cut shot!
   43. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 01:53 PM (#3784322)
The Sports Day has broke the MyP2P internets! At least for a second or two...
   44. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:00 PM (#3784326)
COYS!
   45. Flynn Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:00 PM (#3784327)
Tendulkar caught behind.

India are ######.
   46. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:02 PM (#3784329)
This Dortmund-Hannover fixture is another problematic one. Do I root for Dortmund to distance themselves further from Leverkusen? Do I root for Hannover to upset BVB, thus helping ensure Bayern out of CL next year?

I think I'm rooting for a draw. That sounds right. Rooting for a tie is even more nerve-racking, methinks.
   47. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:02 PM (#3784330)
Tendulkar caught behind.

India are ######.


Proper ######
   48. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:05 PM (#3784332)
###### is about all you can say. I know zip about the sport, but Tendulkar didn't look quite Godlike in this tourney. Which is too bad, even as I root for SL, because I probably have completely missed the God portion of his career.
   49. Flynn Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:05 PM (#3784333)
Malinga is bowling some seriously hostile stuff.
   50. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:12 PM (#3784335)
That Run Rate be tumbling....this could be a very, very long 42 overs for India.
   51. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:12 PM (#3784336)
per cricinfo - sums it up right...

Malinga to Tendulkar, OUT, The ball that silenced a billion. Most of Wankhede is silent. Some of it is very noisy, and has Sri Lankan flags waving away in a frenzy. Sachin's World Cup is over. No 100th 100 today. Malinga gets another over, another go at a wicket, and he responds with a wicket. It's that patent back of a length ball outside off and as always, Malinga got it to go away. Sachin tried the same shot, last ball of the previoius Malinga over, trotting across and looking for the steer through the off side. This time he edged it, and though it was dying on Sanga, he wasn't going to put it down. He dives to the right and comes up with the biggest wicket of the World Cup.
   52. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:14 PM (#3784337)
Damn...and I was going to mention that Stoke City was my upset special today. Ancelotti is coaching in Italy in 5...4...3...2...
   53. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:56 PM (#3784355)
Spurs are way, way too narrow without Bale or Lennon.
   54. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 02:57 PM (#3784356)
That Run Rate be tumbling....this could be a very, very long 42 overs for India.


game evenly poised again but i cant stay awake - damn
   55. Padgett Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:00 PM (#3784359)
I ranted on the wrong thread -- let's try that again:

Serious question: is there a technical reason that justifies why foxsoccer.tv cannot maintain a reliable live stream? Because my patience has basically run out with this nonsense. I'd be better off lighting my money on fire for warmth and watching a pirated stream than suffering through this ####. Plus, they're not only incompetent, they're utterly non-responsive to any customer questions or feedback. What a ####### racket.
   56. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:04 PM (#3784363)
foxsoccer.tv has all the look/feel of an illegal operation. MyP2P appears IBM circa 1974 compared to them. Meanwhile...shhh...Bayern hasn't scored yet at home v. Gladbach...shhh.

And Dortmund puts Hannover to the sword at 3-1. Must be those damn white/green kits. Or maybe Dortmund really will keep running away with this thing.

Edit: argh...more argh...
   57. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:06 PM (#3784365)
Serious question: is there a technical reason that justifies why foxsoccer.tv cannot maintain a reliable live stream?

So it's not just me. It's driving me homicidal.
   58. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:10 PM (#3784366)
So it's not just me. It's driving me homicidal.

Looks at the ocean between me and Shooty. Yep, still there. Whew!
   59. Padgett Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:13 PM (#3784367)
So it's not just me. It's driving me homicidal.
It's definitely not just you.
   60. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:20 PM (#3784373)
Goal Wolves! Whoo-hoo! Woot! Etc....

3-1 oh bloody 'ell..
   61. Swedish Chef Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:42 PM (#3784382)
Aston Villa, Championship team.
   62. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:44 PM (#3784383)
Goal Wolves! Whoo-hoo! Woot! Etc....

3-1 oh bloody 'ell..


MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
   63. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:46 PM (#3784384)
Chef: I'll bet you five on the first Villa-Wolves match next year....
   64. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:55 PM (#3784388)
Another crap performance by Spurs. Just in time for Real!
   65. Swedish Chef Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:55 PM (#3784389)
Oh dear, the curse of Roy strikes Liverpool.
   66. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:55 PM (#3784390)
And another lifeless performance from Spurs against a bottom of the table team.
   67. Swedish Chef Posted: April 02, 2011 at 03:58 PM (#3784392)
Chef: I'll bet you five on the first Villa-Wolves match next year....

Only on the condition that Houllier is gone.
   68. Grunthos Posted: April 02, 2011 at 04:01 PM (#3784394)

Only on the condition that Houllier is gone.

Somebody thinks he'd still be in charge after a relegation?

I still don't see much chance of this team actually going down, given the copious number of dysfunctional competitors, although of course all things are possible if the dressing room really has gone to pot. But today's performance was decent enough.
   69. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 04:02 PM (#3784397)
And they are into their 47th minute of stoppage time at Stoke...give it another hour and Chelsea might have another goal in them...

Nobody must wanna go to Europe next year...
   70. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 02, 2011 at 04:05 PM (#3784399)
Seriously, Spurs owe West Brom a big thanks for that game today.
   71. frannyzoo Posted: April 02, 2011 at 04:15 PM (#3784405)
Malinga needs to bowl until his arm falls off..
   72. Swedish Chef Posted: April 02, 2011 at 06:17 PM (#3784471)
Another crap performance by Spurs. Just in time for Real!

Fortunately, Real was even more embarrassing today.
   73. Swedish Chef Posted: April 02, 2011 at 06:21 PM (#3784473)
It's as if Sam Allardyce never left Blackburn.
   74. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2011 at 06:48 PM (#3784494)
AC Milan get on the board 42 seconds into the Milan derby.

Could have been 2-0 within 9 minutes but the ref misses a handball in the box.
   75. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 02, 2011 at 08:11 PM (#3784530)
After everything this season Everton looks good to finish in the top third of the table, with a chance to overtake Liverpool for 6th. Next year it's Europe or bust.
   76. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 02, 2011 at 08:36 PM (#3784541)
In the span of 2 minutes, Cassano scores, gets booked for removing his shirt in celebration, and gets booked again and sent off for a silly shove.
   77. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 02, 2011 at 08:37 PM (#3784542)
Cassano has been the Kevin Federline of this game. I don't think I've ever seen a player who had so little to do with the result try so hard to gather all the attention for himself.
   78. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: April 02, 2011 at 10:15 PM (#3784612)
...and India romped it in. Time to collect my winnings!
   79. ursus arctos Posted: April 02, 2011 at 10:56 PM (#3784637)
That was Mourinho's first loss in a league game at home in nine years.

He never lost one at either Chelsea or Inter.

India were worthy winners. Dhoni was immense, and while Jayawardane's innings was marginally better, Dhoni was under indescribable pressure.
   80. Juan V Posted: April 02, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#3784656)
####
   81. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 03, 2011 at 12:19 PM (#3784912)
Anyone see the end of the Vancouver game? holy crap!
   82. Flynn Posted: April 03, 2011 at 12:28 PM (#3784914)
Ghambir's innings were very good too, and arguably even more deserving of MOM than Dhoni's, since he was the vital bridge between Tendulkar losing his wicket and India having the game firmly under control.
   83. Mattbert Posted: April 03, 2011 at 12:37 PM (#3784917)
The Guardian had a nice puff piece on Sandro in yesterday's paper. I stand by my prediction that he will be captaining Tottenham by 2013.
   84. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 03, 2011 at 01:14 PM (#3784922)
The Guardian had a nice puff piece on Sandro in yesterday's paper. I stand by my prediction that he will be captaining Tottenham by 2013.

He's going to be great, but I'd swap him for a competent striker at this point.

(Naw, not really.)

Blackpool look very disinterested today.
   85. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 03, 2011 at 01:26 PM (#3784927)
Yet Redknapp needed more persuasion. The manager had explored the possibility of signing Phil Neville in the January window and, had he been prised from Everton, Sandro might not have made the revamped Champions League squad.

From the article Mattbert linked. This seems to be a common story with Harry. Kyle Walker should be in a Spurs kit right now as he's already better than Hutton and, if Spurs do sign Connor Wickham as has been rumored over and over again, will he even play? All in all, I think Harry brings more positives than negatives but his reluctance to rotate the squad and work in young players is frustrating. I don't think it's a coincidence that all the guys who were starting every game before January are struggling for fitness now, with the exception of Modric who had a breather enforced on him by the appendicitis.
   86. frannyzoo Posted: April 03, 2011 at 03:07 PM (#3784971)
Weird morning. Every single Serie A game went the way I wanted, even the Cesena/Fiorentina draw (although I slightly rather that Chievo had beaten Sampdoria instead of a draw). I kinda wish I'd woke up at 4:30 for Napoli/Lazio, given the scoreline, but I'll ESPN3 that one now. Meanwhile, Cagliari wins on the road, Juve B (i.e. Parma) lose at Bari in the dying minutes, Palermo suffers more hubris as well, and the team I bet to stay up, Lecce, takes out soon-to-be-plummeting Udinese.

A once-in-a-decade scenario, really, one that makes me wish I placed the occasional illegal wager with shady offshore entities.

If this Franny rules the Universe continues, the following teams will be relegated this year in Serie A:

Sampdoria
Parma
Bari

Methinks my control of things universal is fleeting, however.

Now Juve A just needs to beat Roma in Rome...just to watch Totti and crew die, Johnny Cash style. Now that's a shiite for shiite matchup, i.e. The Ranieri-ex Special of Suck. And it would be nice if Sunderland beat City for the same Cash reason...I really wish Yaya Toure would change clubs...I used to like him quite a bit but the very large light powder jersey is quite hurting my eyes.
   87. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 03, 2011 at 03:24 PM (#3784975)
So after all the plucky overachiever stories, Blackpool is going to get relegated, right?
   88. frannyzoo Posted: April 03, 2011 at 04:31 PM (#3785003)
I've too busy to really sit down and watch, but this Napoli/Lazio game certainly appears to one of the most amazing I've run across in a while.

That first goal from Mauri might be goal of the season in Serie A.
   89. Mattbert Posted: April 03, 2011 at 04:55 PM (#3785013)
Man City giving Sunderland a good old fashioned whuppin. Partly self-inflicted, but still..my goodness.
   90. Mattbert Posted: April 03, 2011 at 04:59 PM (#3785015)
Also, given the weekend's results I'd say Spurs had better go ahead and win the Champions League if they're going to throw away points like that against Wigan and West Ham. They sure ain't getting back in through the front door for next season.
   91. Mefisto Posted: April 03, 2011 at 10:19 PM (#3785391)
I'm surprised nobody has commented on the really amazing thing about the Man City/Sunderland game: Cattermole, DeJong and Viera were all on the pitch at the same time, yet all 22 players walked off alive under their own power.
   92. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 04, 2011 at 09:18 AM (#3785581)
   93. Juan V Posted: April 04, 2011 at 09:38 AM (#3785582)
   94. ursus arctos Posted: April 04, 2011 at 11:59 AM (#3785587)
Franny, I don't know what you have against Doria, but their 0-0 yesterday looks rather dodgy when one realises that the Betfair market had something like 30 times as much wagered on the draw as on a win by either team.

Some of that is likely down to "traditional" end of season collusion between clubs who can both use points, but the volume is ridiculously high.

Zamparini fires Cosmi and re-hires Delio Rossi a month after giving him the boot. What a mentalist.
   95. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 04, 2011 at 12:07 PM (#3785589)
   96. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 04, 2011 at 03:41 PM (#3785732)
   97. Swedish Chef Posted: April 04, 2011 at 03:48 PM (#3785738)
but their 0-0 yesterday looks rather dodgy when one realises that the Betfair market had something like 30 times as much wagered on the draw as on a win by either team.

I don't know who lays against when the volume is at that level, eggheads ("Hey, that isn't an efficient market, stupid betters, let's show them how the normal distribution works!"), the mob ("I called the coach, the fix is off. Or he's dogfood.") or what...
   98. ursus arctos Posted: April 04, 2011 at 04:08 PM (#3785757)
I had the exact same question.

The prosecution in the Bonds case appears to be another potential source of suckers.
   99. ursus arctos Posted: April 04, 2011 at 07:02 PM (#3785913)
   100. ursus arctos Posted: April 04, 2011 at 07:21 PM (#3785934)
BREAKING NEWS: BTF Nanny to be named new FA Chair.
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