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When the changeover happens, which hasn't happened yet.
I have to agree.
Great hit, but I am not sure how the keeper missed that. It looked like he had it covered.
Champ - Manchester United (City have really blown it, this should have been their year).
2,3 - City, Tottenham
4 - Arsenal
5 - Newcastle
Relegated - Wolves, Wigan, Bolton
Angelina Jolie did it better.
That is all.
The list of players is hilarious...Torres, Lampard, Drogba. Is Abramovich secretly going to use Anzhi to take his dross for inflated prices as a way to rescue Chelsea from FFP? Crazy conspiracy theory alert! Seriously, though, why is there never any mention about FFP in these articles about Anzhi throwing around crazy money?
Because they are never going to actually sign all those guys, so it doesn't matter.
I don't know. They've got Eto'o and Samba plus Hiddink to coach. They seem serious.
I'm just not into soccer. Sorry.
Then ### off. Seriously.
We should be nice to our unfortunate friends who have never experienced the joys of soccer, offer a hug instead.
I believe the complaint is that we can't delete threads from our "Hot Topics" sidebar, which we were told we'd be able to do someday. I'm sympathetic as well. For all of us there are threads that last weeks and weeks which we don't care about in the least.
Are you saying Yegor's Khlav Kalash didn't really pay $900 billion to run the stadium concession stands and get an ad on the back cover of the program?
I know what the "complaint" is. But none of the people here have anything to do with it. The thread is rather obviously named, if you don't want to talk about the topic, stay the fuck out, and leave those that do in peace. Coming in here just to piss on the thread is a complete #### move.
This isn't the place to complain about that, this is a thread about soccer, not site administration.
But you can have a hug if you want.
Also, the new Fifa Street looks awesome.
That's one way to put it.
Spurs have a relatively easy run-in to finish the season, I think they'll finish third as well. Sunderland away, Norwich at home, QPR away, Blackburn at home, Bolton away, Aston Villa away, Fulham at home. Sunderland, presently ninth, are the team with the highest table position among those seven.
Arsenal still have City and Chelsea at home, Chelsea have Arsenal and Liverpool away plus Newcastle at home, and Newcastle have Chelsea and Everton away plus City at home.
http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/andrea-masiello-must-account-for-own-goal-italian-soccer-player-arrested-for-match-fixing-video.html
That's bad. Really bad. The aforementioned The Miracle of Castel di Sangro really is great, btw. Both in spite and because of these latest game-fixing developments.
I am cautiously optimistic, but I think the Norwich and Fulham games will be tricky. Papa Bear back at the Lane will be an awesome way to end the season, though. Just awesome. Especially if Spurs can knuckle down and have at least a top four place wrapped up by then. If they can keep most everyone healthy, they have every chance of running the table from here on out. I'm thinking something like 15 points is a lot more likely than 21, but it's possible.
The key to me is having Lennon back fit for the remainder. Spurs are so much more dangerous when they can get both him and Bale in the team to really stretch play and counter swiftly.
What I want to know is, when the #### is the Aussie Rules thread going to open? It's nearly week 2!
Last year's Grand Finalists losing in Round 1. That doesn't happen very often...
I believe it's true of any sport. Stupid management teams fire the coach and then start looking for the replacement.
And yes, I understand that sometimes it's ownership making the call. It's still stupid.
And when I asked whether the technical capability to do so had been added yet, I got told to #### off.
I have no problem with people talking about soccer, if that's what they're into. I just wanted to know how to make this thread disappear.
I have no problem with people talking about soccer, if that's what they're into. I just wanted to know how to make this thread disappear.
Please understand that nobody in this thread has any privileged information about that, there is simply no point in bringing that up here. We would be delighted to help you with anything that has to do with soccer.
Speaking of World Cup's and FIFA...in South Africa all the sporting goods stores have tons of FIFA t-shirts I'm assuming FIFA blackmailed them into trying to sell as there is nothing more hip than wearing the acronym of a giant and corrupt world bureacracy on your chest. Oddly enough they were on all the discount rack with the England national rugby team shirts. On the plus side, they also had a bunch of random, cool t-shirts, too. We need another Kinsale's outing so I can show off my 1990 West Germany commemorative v-neck. Es ist auzgezeichnet!
Yes, but it was those Collingwood arseholes so what can you expect. I thoroughly enjoyed their flogging by my Hawks (and the Buddy/Cyril show) and I'm hoping to see them again in the playoffs. I'm fairly new to Aussie Rules, being only in Melbourne for the last 9 months, but it's a great game with a fantastic atmosphere.
As an Australian by birth who grew up in the US, I always loved getting up early on Saturday mornings to watch the AFL with my dad. In those pre-internet days, it was one of the few touchstones I had with Australian culture.
I was a Fitzroy supporter, though, and it kind of broke my heart when they got folded into Brisbane.
I hold this truth to be self-evident.
I want to see someone go for the trifecta: racially abusing a ref with flares as a visual aid.
Teams:
Barça: Valdes; Dani Alves, Piqué, Mascherano, Puyol; Xavi , Busquets, Iniesta; Messi, Fabregas, Cuenca
Subs: Pinto, Sanchez, Keita, Alcantara, Pedro, Adriano, Tello
Milan: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Mexes, Antonini; Nocerine, Ambrosini, Boateng, Seedorf; Robinho, Zlatan
Subs: Amelia, Pato, Aquilani, Lopez, Bonera, Emmanuelson, Yepes
Sounds like a job for Lazio's fans*.
*) Paolo di Canio greeting them in their familiar way
Sun rises in east.
That seems to have revitalized Milan a bit. They looked dead and buried before the goal.
Good thing it's the only game on tonight, so I can focus all my attention on it.
The first one, definitely without a doubt. The second one was technically, but Stoke pulls that crap on every single set piece and it never gets called. I'd call that one a bit soft.
First one was definitely legit. Just an awful tackle. The second was shirt pulling on a corner. They happen on every other corner, and are hardly ever given. Now I am on record that they should start calling thos more, so that defenders cut it out... but this might not be the best stage to start on.
Coke to the Shooty.
It definitely wasn't a penalty at the San Siro.
It would be interesting to see what the impact on the game would be if that foul was called consistently.
And yes, the Cyril/Buddy show last Friday was awesome.
Back to association football for a bit, I hope Chelsea go through on away goals after Lampard scores a long range strike in injury time of the second leg, all after Barça get a bunch of penalty appeals rejected.
I've always thought that the severity and binary nature of the penalty sanction makes it very difficult to police foul play in the box, but it isn't something that gets a lot of attention, in part because there is a strong tendency within the game to try to minimize "judgement calls".
Can there really be fandom rules for a league with half the teams residing in a 5 mile radius?
Agreed, but I'm not sure what else you could do in a sport with no free substitution. 2vs2 PKs?
1) use the indirect free kick within the box as a real sanction instead instead of a novelty act;
2) introduce direct free kicks from the edge of the area (as suggested by frannyzoo in 70);
3) adopt a version of the penalty box/sin bin concept from ice hockey/rugby.
The problem has tended to be an unwillingness to change the status quo, rather than a dearth of possible alternatives.
Yes, absolutely.
My dad came up with the best solution I have heard so far regarding shirt pulling (in general, not specifically in the penalty box). According to him, teams should start making their match day kits out of incredibly cheap material, so that they tear upon the slightest of pulls. Because it's really difficult to argue that you didn't foul somebody, while you are hilding the tattered remains of his shirt in your hand...
Failing that I'm joining the bear in agreement with franny's #70. The direct free kicks from the edge of the area seems to be a very good "compromise" punishment.
Sepp would lobby for this idea to be applied in women's football.
I'd actually prefer it to be a direct free kick from ANYWHERE outside the box that they like. It always seems like right at the edge of the box is a little bit too close to get the angles to work.
Outside of the APOEL story, this hasn't been much of a CL to me. And that story is ending today. I never thought I'd think/say this, but the Europa League is actually a worthwhile tourney and is largely more interesting. At least this year.
I just wish it was easier to watch as I'd love to have followed Bilbao through the tourney. They are rapidly becoming the La Liga team I feel drawn to.
The narrative is pretty tired - no one likes Bayern and everyone's sick of the Spanish twosome - but the football could be some of the best we'll ever see.
Edit: And I don't think Barca 2011-2012 is quite up to being "the tyranny of evil men," to complete the analogy.
I've always wondered why teams don't have someone pass the ball about 10 yards back (which seems the spot most dangerous) in that situation. Even a relatively soft pass should be struck harder than the wall can run and the wall is in fact going to breakdown in the process. I guess you lose a little something having to kick a rolling ball rather than a stationary one but the way the fields are manicured nowadays it's not going to be bouncing all over the place.
Speaking of the fields, I was watching a game from about 2000 or so the other day on Fox Soccer. I just watched for a few minutes but it was amazing how much worse the ground was at Stamford Bridge compared with what you see today. That seems like an area that the top levels of soccer have really improved in recent years.
I thought of those, and they should be tried. For #3, that's what I meant about "in a game with no free substitution". Seems antithetical to a game where players don't change to have someone go off and them come back on (although I realized they do that for minor injuries). As for the kicks from inside or edge of the box, I figured those are worthless (as per #79) because you can just stack 10 players between the spot and the goal, but maybe I'm wrong on that.
So the 2v2 penalty idea was a random idea between 1v1 and 1v10. Maybe better would be to limit the number of people who can be in the box at the whistle on a direct or indirect kick.
Yeah, FSC sometimes shows games from the 90's and the fields are just horrible. The most striking thing about my visit to White Hart Lane last year, though, was the grass. It was the most immaculate sports field I've ever seen.
As the Milan/Barca first leg brought to more prominence, many of Serie A's grounds are diabolical. The Bentegodi in Verona is particularly awful.
The pitches are good in England, but the enterprising coach can still play around, remember when Mourinho had truckloads of sand dumped on the Stamford Bridge pitch before they hosted Barcelona.
The Miracle of Castel di Sangro also has an amusing anecdote about their club president ####### up big time with installation of the pitch for their new ground. The author describes the surface as sponge-like. The only comparison I can think of is that CCL game a year or so back when Real Salt Lake played down in Mexico on a water-logged pitch.
If that's the case, then there's essentially no excuse for an organization with the resources of even the most meagre PL team to have an uneven pitch*. Do the work in the off-season to have good drainage, and with enough chemistry you can have grass in a day or two. I worked as a greenskeeper in college, and with the amount of crap they pumped in to the grass, the way it rebounded from being trampled was unholy.
*Unless you build your park below-grade in the middle of a river, like the Harrisburg Sens.
And miss Wenger moaning about it every season? That's too high a price to pay!
If you play route one, it makes little sense to make it a putting green.
Nothing wrong with hosing down the basepaths.
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