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Everyone knows they need a Modric replacement and a striker, but here we are a game into the season and nothing has changed. They could easily have stolen points here with a complete roster.
Yep, but this is what we've got until the 31st. I was encouraged by Defoe's play overall. He has a part to play this year. It is definitely time for the suits to take care of business now, though. A striker and a deep lying playmaker and this team is pretty much set. Anything outside of that is just gravy.
Maybe Tottenham should pick up Dempsey?
The problem, of course, is that finding players for these particular positions that fit well (style, financial, available, etc.) is very tough. Today, Spurs seemed most dangerous with Bale as de facto striker. Regardless of who they get, having him play a bit more of that role (both in long, Messi-esque runs and true finisher) might be a good idea. At least until he is injured or explodes from overuse.
One more thing: Robert Green with a juicy 4.4 rating on Whoscored.com today for QPR. Ouch.
Yes, next question.
Next question is how much you think he's worth?
24m to Man U is not the same as 24m to another team. Changes the calculus. But even ignoring that, yes I would be happy to pay more than twice for RVP than I would for Dempsey. You can get a Dempseyish player, or a Dempsey-lite player comparatively easy. RBP is on the shortlist for 3rd best player in the world right now. There are no Van Persie-lite players, and you pay premium for that scarcity, since they are the type of guys you need to build a world-beater.
Depends who I am, what my budget is, what my alternatives are, what other holes are in the squad that need to be filled... But probably about 8-10m.
As far as I can tell, most of the high level teams with the big budgets need goal scorers. To me, it just doesn't make sense that Dempsey is worth 8-10m when there are so many guys that will never be as good as Dempsey is going for much more.
I agree on RVP fwiw, that a guy who's a lock for one of the 10 best players in the world going for 24m pounds makes a lot of sense.
And how many of those guys are 29 years old?
Football transfers don't work like baseball signings. If you expect a baseball player is worth 12 WAR over the next 4 years, you pay him for those 12 wins, regardless of whether he is 25 or 35. But in football you have to take account of the resale value, it's simply not negligible.
Let's say you have 2 players, one of them is 25, the other 29, who are otherwise identical. Let's call them Dempsey25 and Dempsey29. 4 years from now, you can sell Dempsey25 for what you can Dempsey29 now. Dempsey33 is going to be practically worthless however. (I am obviously simplifying and ignoring ageing otherwise)
If you pick up Dempsey25 for 20m, then flip him for 10m 4 years down the line, you have actually paid the same for both versions. If you think Dempsey29 is worth 15m, then you have to think Dempsey25 is worth at least 30m (in reality comfortably more than that once you factor in ageing). That seems like a massive stretch.
Of course, why not wait until after the first game, Alex?
It's not like picking up a six pack at the corner deli. A striker is going to come in so I'm not worried about it.
It is pretty obvious that a striker will come in about ten minutes after the Modric business is concluded. So 23:45 on August 31th or thereabouts.
A striker is going to come in so I'm not worried about it.
You can worry about which striker it is though.
Andy Carroll is available...
It's going to be Adebayor. I will bet a bb reference sponsorship on it and I am confident he comes in well before the deadline. Modric...I have no idea what's going to happen there. Modric still hasn't put in a transfer request and I have a feeling that's holding things up. From what I understand Spurs have to pay Zagreb a % of the sell if Modric is sold without putting in a transfer request , not to mention the cash Modric would get as a result of the fee, too. This transfer seems like it has become a Mexican standoff and explains why the chairman at Zagreb can't keep his mouth shut about it. Still, the Modric saga won't affect Adebayor coming in.
I don't think there's any chance they sign Adebayor before Modric's transfer fee is in the bag.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuu.
It's not like the score in the current game would make you any happier.
I strongly disagree. The fee for Adebayor is going to be a relative pittance. The Modric fee is holding up a move for a second striker, a possible new GK and, of course, a new midfielder.
The fee will be a pittance for a club like City but real money for Tottenham, and his wages will be unprecedented for the Spurs.
Spurs can afford the 6 to 8 million pound fee. The wages will be offset by Man City giving most of that fee to Adebayor as a payoff. Adebayor has all the leverage with City and Spurs are the only club in for him that he wants to play for. Even after that fee Spurs won't be into net spend territory because of the cash from the Pav, Niko, Corluka and Pienaar sales.
Who says it's been easy? They started negotiating this probably last January!
You did:
Adebayor has all the leverage with City and Spurs are the only club in for him that he wants to play for.
So why haven't that lazyass Levy got it done already?
Because Levy sucks and doesn't know what he's doing. He's secretly an Arsenal fan and wants to destroy Spurs from within. Really, I don't know why you think I'm so full of #### about this. City has no incentive to rush the deal. They know Spurs want him and I'm sure they are fairly relaxed with Spurs dropping points while shuffling their feet with the paperwork.
I just find it hard to square your confidence in the deal and all the hang-ups that apparently exist before it can happen. I wish for your sake my theory is actually correct, and all it takes is for Adebayor coming is Modric signing for Real.
I'm not as 100% confident as Lassus. Lots of folks need strikers, and Adebayor is good at the job. City aren't irrational to hope they'll get a better deal.
From here.
I thought the holdup wasn't City wanting more money, but Adebayor not wanting to take a huge pay cut?
EDIT: New drama, will anyone have a less impressive penalty than that one?
And as I finish typing Silva hits an awful PK
For Chelsea, Hazard was tremendous. Obviously early but that's a signing that might be a bargain despite the high price tag. His pace and creativity come as advertised and the linkage play between him and Mata is going to be fun to watch.
I know the referees make absolutely sure that they can tell which players are on which team by their socks, so they can accurately judge throw-ins and corner kicks and the like. The shoes don't matter, but the socks need to be uniform.
*edit* Dzeko restores some normalcy when Southampton can't clear.
Assuming that he's reached it, of course.
Meh. RSD scored the best goal of the game. ;)
As noted in the byline, FourFourTwo's StatsZone app for iPhone is now free. The data for 2012/13...not so free, but 2010/11 and 2011/12 are in there (Premier League and Champions League only). Given the price, can't complain.
On a related note, I learned today that Afrikaans speakers have their own term for 'Backpfeifengesicht'. It is the unsurprisingly similar 'Moer-my-gesig'. In English, of course, it's 'Piersmorgan'.
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They had Shawcross at winger this weekend.
The main thing I learned this week is that I've developed my first organic sports hate in the Premier League. I really cannot stand Chelsea and I want them to lose every game in embarrassing fashion. I didn't even realize it had happened, and then there I was watching the early game, and ####!!! ####### Chelsea scores in the third minute?? and I realized I'd said that out loud.
I know I'm supposed to hate Arsenal, but I can't really bring myself to do it. Wenger's too
Beat Gaelan, RB! You can do it! You are the plucky American underdog defending our rightful control of English sport from the Canadian menace.
Also, props to RB for selecting a Hammer as his team captain, and then having that pay off. That's the universe respecting game.
Couldn't agree more.
What's up with the Chelsea-Reading midweek game. That seems odd scheduling.
It's very post-Modern of you to explore the empty spaces.
Man, I am so bored. I may watch the WBA-Liverpool game to see what all the teeth gnashing is about. It's only one game!
Also, checked out the highlights on Altidore's goals. He is really on fire right now.
I was always mystified why he would ever choose a non-CL club over a CL club, but the poop show that was Liverpool on Saturday definitely had him running for the hills.
I'm at 60 minutes now--Agger just got sent off--but it wasn't as dire a performance as it's been made out. Liverpool had 3 problems: 1. Downing is terrible. 2. Gerrard was really sloppy. 3. Lucas was rusty. Makes sense Sahin would rather play CL, though. I wonder if there will be an option to buy for Arsenal?
The only thing I’d add is that I thought the defining area where Spurs fell short was in the connection between defense and attack. The front four played quite well as a unit, as did the back six. The transitions between them, though, not so hot. For me, this confirmed that the need for a Modric replacement is at least as critical as the need for another center forward. The link-up play just wasn’t there.
I'd agree with this. Livermore and Sandro are just too similar to play together, I think, and I have no idea what they'll end up doing about this. I'm not even sure anymore that Modric is leaving. PANIC TIME!
Naw, not yet. Too bad Huddlestone isn't fit, though.
What are his options? Joe Cole?
People act like Joe Cole played in the conference last year. He played in Ligue 1, and did fine. He might not be Joe Cole, all-star, anymore but Downing is sub-replacement level, in baseball terms.
It will be harder to win this year. Last year was almost all new players (me included), and there weren't that many teams, so there was a lot of room for error. I took a quick glance at the rosters and most of them are quite solid. If I'm in first after this week it will only be because of the two Chelsea games. I'll then have to divest myself of one or two of those guys by their bye week or that advantage will disappear quickly.
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Lots of time.
Cole doesn't really supply any width, though, and he was gimpy 5 minutes after coming on against West Brom. I'm not sure how viable an option he is for Rodgers. They could really use Adam Johnson if they have the cash for him. The ESPN on-the-move blog reported Sunderland are willing to "meet any terms of City's or Adam Johnson's" to sign him which cracked me up. I wouldn't put it past Martin O'Neill to do just that.
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