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OT: The Soccer Thread: December 2011

What I Want for Christmas:

Carlos Tevez: A ticket out of Manchester
Wayne Rooney: To be known from here on out as “Tintin” instead of “Shrek”
Harry Redknapp: An acquittal
Andre Villas-Boas To still be employed come Christmas
Portsmouth Fans: For their club to still exist come Christmas
Me: West Ham United, Championship leaders come Christmas
Shooty: Any Spurs gear from the years 1964-1982

 

RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 01, 2011 at 11:26 PM | 990 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. DA Baracus Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:18 PM (#4008163)
And yet, Howard and Dempsey are both playing in England.


I should say, the perceived best player.

Howard and Friedel are the two best players the US has ever produced IMO. But it's hard to compare keepers to field players, so condidering just the latter I'd say it's Donovan pretty easily.


It's apple and oranges, yes. And I agree that Friedel's got a claim to that too.
   202. DA Baracus Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:12 PM (#4008370)
I never saw Keller play in Europe - how would you old timers who were following the sport back then say Keller's prime compares with Friedel?


Keller bounced around Europe and the bench whereas Friedel was a stud at the World Cup and was considered an elite keeper in the EPL. Speaking of American goalie autobiographies, Keller could probably write a good one. He's played in 4 countries, been on 3 World Cup teams and seen his share of success. Also I read an interview with him when he came to Seattle, he told a story where he was in Millwall and he's just standing there minding his own business as the action is on the other end of the field, and a fan runs across to go fight a fan on the other side of the stadium. As the fan passed Keller he said "hey Kasey!" like it was nothing. If he had more of those that could be an entertaining book.
   203. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:23 PM (#4008383)
Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Terry, Luiz, Cole, Romeu, Meireles,
Ramires, Sturridge, Drogba, Mata.


Chelsea's lineup. No Lampard, no Torres, no Malouda and Romeu and Meireles get starts. An interesting lineup. The second guessers will have their shotguns loaded if Chelsea lose.
   204. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:28 PM (#4008388)
Chelsea's lineup. No Lampard, no Torres, no Malouda and Romeu and Meireles get starts. An interesting lineup. The second guessers will have their shotguns loaded if Chelsea lose.


Us ain't got no guns over 'ere guv.
   205. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:29 PM (#4008390)
Chelsea's lineup. No Lampard, no Torres, no Malouda and Romeu and Meireles get starts. An interesting lineup. The second guessers will have their shotguns loaded if Chelsea lose.
I admire AVB for sticking to his guns on this one.
   206. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:34 PM (#4008400)
Us ain't got no guns over 'ere guv.

This is not the impression I get from Eastenders.

I admire AVB for sticking to his guns on this one.

As do I, even if this will fire up the Lampard to Spurs rumors even more.
   207. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:41 PM (#4008409)
Hey, Kasey Keller on FSC!
   208. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:42 PM (#4008411)
Chelsea's lineup. No Lampard, no Torres, no Malouda and Romeu and Meireles get starts. An interesting lineup. The second guessers will have their shotguns loaded if Chelsea lose.


Darke went on at length on Saturday when Lampard was subbed out that the only explaination was that he was being saved for this one. Makes the move all the more unusual.
   209. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#4008418)
Too easy.
   210. Mefisto Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:50 PM (#4008421)
My view of Keller is probably forever affected by the game he had in a friendly v. Brazil in 1998/9. The US won 1-0 and Keller had not just the game of his life, but possibly the greatest game any goalie ever had. I'm sure I always overrated him after that.
   211. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:07 PM (#4008442)
Some clownshoes defending by Valencia. Things looking good for Chelsea.
   212. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:09 PM (#4008446)
Is there still a chance Chelsea can put Malouda, Kakuta, Kalou, and Lukaku all in the same lineup?
   213. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:16 PM (#4008448)
Blacysky... Blaszcyszyz... Blaszyksky... Blaszczykowski!
   214. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:35 PM (#4008474)
What should have been a nail-biting day is kind of falling apart here. Chelsea with the early 2-0 edge and in Group F Olympiacos are up 2-0 while Marseille trail 2-0. Not sure how the tie-breakers work but is it possible that Marseille could drop from being in 2nd at the start of the day to out of both the Champions League AND the Europa League?

On the plus side Genk have their second goal of the group stage and lead 1-0.
   215. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:35 PM (#4008475)
Olympiakos looks good to advance as of now.

edit: coke to Jose.
   216. Randy Jones Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:35 PM (#4008476)
Arsenal's b team is putting on quite the clown show today.
   217. DA Baracus Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:37 PM (#4008477)
Chelsea's lineup. No Lampard, no Torres, no Malouda and Romeu and Meireles get starts. An interesting lineup. The second guessers will have their shotguns loaded if Chelsea lose.


Huh. Lampard got taken off after about 60 minutes earlier in the week. The announcers speculated that it was to save his legs for today. Torres didn't play.
   218. PepTech Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:54 PM (#4008492)
Shooty, what was he on for? Anything interesting?
   219. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 09:37 PM (#4008530)
Spectacular goal from Valbuena to send Marseille through (if they can hold on for a few more minutes).
   220. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 06, 2011 at 09:41 PM (#4008537)
What a comeback for Marseille and I imagine it was a snoozefest but Zenit St. Pete holding Porto to a 0-0 draw to get through.
   221. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 06, 2011 at 09:43 PM (#4008542)
Zenit wouldn't have all that crowd trouble if their stadium was closer to downtown Tampa.
   222. ursus arctos Posted: December 06, 2011 at 10:35 PM (#4008604)
I really hope that FPH hasn't done anything rash.

202 is right about Friedel and Keller in Europe. Friedel was always more impressive for club than country, Keller was the opposite. Put their careers together and you would have an Anglophone rival to Gigi Buffon.
   223. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 06, 2011 at 10:47 PM (#4008619)
I really hope that FPH hasn't done anything rash.


Eh, they weren't going through anyway. Now they can concentrate on the Erzfeind.
   224. ursus arctos Posted: December 06, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#4008644)
The Karnevalverein gave you a hand there the other week.

The Herbstmeistertitel isn't out of reach.
   225. JuanGone..except1game Posted: December 06, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#4008668)
Huh. Lampard got taken off after about 60 minutes earlier in the week. The announcers speculated that it was to save his legs for today. Torres didn't play.


I think AVB realizes that when Lamapard and Drogba are on together, that the team just looks like its running in molasses. Now that Drogba is AVB's guy, its likely Lamapard plays a little less.

And for anyone who hasn't seen, Romeu is a revelation. Really smart tackler, great passer and coldly effecient. Barca's idea of leftovers is filet mignon.
   226. Juan V Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:15 AM (#4008684)
I feel really smart for picking Shakhtar to win Group G, with Porto to progress with them.
   227. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:55 AM (#4008724)
Shooty, what was he on for? Anything interesting?

Just pregame punditry. That stuff is always just blah blah blah to me.

And for anyone who hasn't seen, Romeu is a revelation. Really smart tackler, great passer and coldly effecient. Barca's idea of leftovers is filet mignon.

Barca has a buy back clause on him. The better he plays--and he looks pretty freaking good to me-the more he slips through Chelsea's fingers.
   228. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:59 AM (#4008728)
I finished Friedel's book. The last chapter is how proud he is of his soccer academy and how bright the future was with Villa because of the partnership of O'Neill and Lerner. I almost felt bad reading it. In all seriousness, I hope he gets some glory with Tottenham and his career ends on the high note he thought he was going to get at Villa.
   229. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 01:08 AM (#4008739)
Looks like Tevez to Milan.

Just a few details to haggle out. Tevez' refusal to come off the bench becomes a real boon for Milan now, no?
   230. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 07, 2011 at 01:29 AM (#4008747)
Barca's idea of leftovers is filet mignon.

If only they could find some actual bench players to contribute to the actual Barca team.
   231. Mefisto Posted: December 07, 2011 at 02:19 AM (#4008767)
Who needs bench players when your youth team can slaughter 3/4 of the professional teams in the world?
   232. Mattbert Posted: December 07, 2011 at 04:28 AM (#4008914)
Jonathan Wilson on the task facing Martin O'Neill:
Sessegnon and Larsson flicker at times, but there is a dreadful lack of incisiveness through the middle. Ji Dong-Won, in his first Premier League start, struggled to get into the game, while Bendtner was as frustrating as ever, playing like a parody of Zlatan Ibrahimovic -- all self-indulgence and bad decisions.

Sunderland isn't that far from being a reasonable side, something reflected in the fact it has the best goal-difference in the bottom half of the Premier League table. Given the departures of Kenwyne Jones, Darren Bent and Asamoah Gyan and the injuries to Connor Wickham and Fraizer Campbell, the lack of cutting edge is understandable. The soft errors are probably the result of a lack of confidence as much as anything else and it is that aspect that O'Neill may be able to address swiftly.
   233. zack Posted: December 07, 2011 at 02:56 PM (#4009105)
Napoli control their own fate today, but do the damned Bavarians bother to try and beat Man City?
   234. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 03:09 PM (#4009115)
Napoli control their own fate today, but do the damned Bavarians bother to try and beat Man City?

I think they will to a point. If Man City get an early lead I don't think they'll chase the game, but I think they'll go for it from the beginning. Napoli just needs to spank a pretty bad Villareal team. Villareal is only 2 points above the drop right now. Damn.
   235. Mattbert Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:20 PM (#4009460)
Bayern have trotted out the second string for the final group match against City. I'm thinking Napoli will not want to count on any favors from zee Germans, but if they take care of business against Villareal then it's all moot.
   236. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:24 PM (#4009463)
Yeah, I was just going to post the Bayern lineup. This is why no one likes Bayern Munich.

edit: It's also why I wish they'd dump the group stage and go to a home/away knockout tournament. Bayern playing Man City in a CL game shouldn't be a bore.
   237. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:35 PM (#4009478)
De Gea; Smalling, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra; Park, Giggs, Jones, Young; Nani; Rooney

Man U's lineup. Berbatov isn't on the bench. I think the Golden Boot has been made irrelevant this season.
   238. DA Baracus Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:40 PM (#4009484)
Yeah, I was just going to post the Bayern lineup. This is why no one likes Bayern Munich.


I can't fault a team for earning the right to field whatever team they want because they've got nothing to play for.
   239. Mattbert Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:42 PM (#4009485)
Don't they have a winter break right after this? Bloody kaiser poofs...
   240. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:45 PM (#4009489)
I can't fault a team for earning the right to field whatever team they want because they've got nothing to play for.

I reserve the right to hate Bayern for irrational reasons.
   241. DA Baracus Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#4009493)
I reserve the right to hate Bayern for irrational reasons.


That's perfectly acceptable.
   242. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:50 PM (#4009494)
Sir Alex: We've got to concentrate and make sure our passing is accurate. It's going to be difficult, no doubt, but it's the same for both teams. Tonight will be different [to the reverse fixture]. We must be strong defensively - if we defend well, as we have in the last few weeks, we should be all right. We have the experience, but discipline is also going to be important.

Whatever else you think of the man, it's pretty impressive that he can say absolutely nothing but do it in 64 words. He should get a second Knighthood for service to clichés.
   243. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:54 PM (#4009497)
Basel!
   244. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 07, 2011 at 07:57 PM (#4009499)
Whatever else you think of the man, it's pretty impressive that he can say absolutely nothing but do it in 64 words. He should get a second Knighthood for service to clichés.


FM pretty much nails the push-button press conferences...
   245. DA Baracus Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:04 PM (#4009502)
FM pretty much nails the push-button press conferences...


I always have "astute" press conferences. Somehow it fires up my players.
   246. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:08 PM (#4009505)
Napoli really pressuring Villareal now.
   247. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:10 PM (#4009507)
There is nothing I want more today than for Manchester United to get knocked out. It will never happen, but it would be sooo sweet.
   248. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:15 PM (#4009511)
If Benfica lose (I know, I know) and Basel beats ManU would United or Benfica be through?
   249. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:17 PM (#4009512)
Benfica should be out just for losing to who or whatever an Otelul Galati is.
   250. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:23 PM (#4009513)
Man City is winning. Napoli better get their scoring boots on. Villareal have 3 yellows right now but Napoli is a bit shaky in defense.
   251. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:25 PM (#4009515)
If Benfica lose (I know, I know) and Basel beats ManU would United or Benfica be through?


Benfica on away goals, I believe.
   252. Padgett Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:30 PM (#4009522)
If Benfica lose (I know, I know) and Basel beats ManU would United or Benfica be through?
ESPN outlines the various scenarios here. Looks like Benfica have already qualified due to their tiebreaker advantage over United and Basel.
   253. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:32 PM (#4009525)
As of now, City are in, United are out.

edit: Also, Vidic stretchered off and replaced by Johnny Evans.
   254. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:50 PM (#4009545)
I always have "astute" press conferences. Somehow it fires up my players.


Sir Alex clearly should have gone with the "assertive" option, instead of "cautious" for the pre-game conference. Rookie mistake really. He really needs to go with "aggressive" for the HT speech now. Fortunately, that's his go-to option...
   255. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:50 PM (#4009547)
Safe to assume that Basel are going to a 9-1-0 formation for the second half?
   256. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:51 PM (#4009549)
In Group B, Trabzonspor advances if the scores hold.
   257. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#4009555)
Napoli's manager has been ejected. Ha! Lyon making a charge to qualify.
   258. Mattbert Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#4009556)
Lyon just went APESH*T on Zagreb in the last few minutes. Holy moly.
   259. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:58 PM (#4009560)
Napoli seem really out of sorts right now. Argh!
   260. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 08:58 PM (#4009561)
Lyon need to get to +7 to get in right? They are at +5 right now. Jesus.

CSKA Moscow putting up a good fight against Milan. If Trabzonspor/Lille draw CSKA is in with a win.
   261. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:01 PM (#4009563)
Lots of tense stuff going on right now. Best day of soccer since the relegation extravaganza in May.
   262. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:03 PM (#4009567)
Yeah, this is a whole lot more exciting than yesterday way, that's for sure.
   263. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:04 PM (#4009570)
Napoli came about 2 inches from scoring.
   264. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:07 PM (#4009573)
Napoli!!!!!!!!

Inler with a screamer from just outside the box. As of now, Man U and City are out.
   265. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:08 PM (#4009575)
Lyon one goal away from an amazing comeback!
   266. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:08 PM (#4009577)
Lyon +6
   267. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:09 PM (#4009578)
I don't even know which game to watch now.
   268. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:09 PM (#4009579)
City are out unless Villareal can find a way to score, which seems pretty unlikely.
   269. Dromedary pretzels, only half a dinar (CoB). Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:12 PM (#4009581)
6!!! for Lyon!
   270. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:13 PM (#4009582)
Lyon +7!
   271. Dromedary pretzels, only half a dinar (CoB). Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:18 PM (#4009588)
Lyon is going through!

7-1.

Wow.

Just wow.
   272. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:18 PM (#4009589)
Hamsik just iced it for Napoli. Lyon now +8!
   273. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:19 PM (#4009591)
This is amazing. Did Lyon get Evan Longoria in a transfer?
   274. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:21 PM (#4009594)
I work with a fellow from Manchester who is diehard ManUnited. I'm afraid to go near his office right now.
   275. jmurph Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:23 PM (#4009596)
Which Man U mediocrity is going to score the decisive goal in the 9th minute of stoppage time? I'm going with... Phil Jones.
   276. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:25 PM (#4009597)
The pitch looks like it's a wet sponge at Basel.
   277. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:27 PM (#4009599)
This is amazing. Did Lyon get Evan Longoria in a transfer?
Ajax must be shellshocked at this point.
   278. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:27 PM (#4009600)
Basel 2-0! A great cross and finish to finish off United!
   279. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:28 PM (#4009602)
Horrific defending from Manchester United! No pressure on the ball, a cross that went past two defenders and a header that goes right past the keeper. Brilliant!

Edit: Shooty is right that it was a great cross and finish; I just wanted to focus on the failures of Man U.
   280. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:30 PM (#4009603)
CSKA scores against Inter. They're through if things stick like this.
   281. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:31 PM (#4009604)
Edit: Shooty is right that it was a great cross and finish; I just wanted to focus on the failures of Man U.

Shaqiri is often linked to Spurs. I feel like he's one of ours already now!
   282. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:32 PM (#4009606)
Oh ####### ####. Should have known Man U wouldn't just die. ####### bullshit!
   283. I am going to be Frank Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:32 PM (#4009607)
If this doesn't show that Man U needs a whole new midfield, nothing will.
   284. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:33 PM (#4009608)
Which Man U mediocrity is going to score the decisive goal in the 9th minute of stoppage time? I'm going with... Phil Jones.

Um, well. Kind of.

Jesus, Basel, don't screw this up now.
   285. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:34 PM (#4009610)
The announcers for the Trabzonspor - Lille game are absolutely baffled at the fact that neither team seems to want to score, even though they both need to.
   286. jmurph Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:34 PM (#4009611)
Oh christ.
   287. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:34 PM (#4009612)
Lyon +9
   288. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:37 PM (#4009614)
Woohoo!!!!
   289. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:37 PM (#4009615)
So...Napoli through. CSKA through. Lyon through. Basel through. Whew! What a day of soccer!
   290. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:38 PM (#4009616)
Manchester City and Manchester United out. APOEL Nicosia and Basel FC through. I bet you could have gotten good odds on that kind of bet.
   291. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:39 PM (#4009619)
What a day of football. Something pretty interesting in all four groups today.
   292. jmurph Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:40 PM (#4009621)
As a City fan who entered today with no hope, I'm a bit disappointed at Napoli toying with my emotions. But then again, having United lose is a nice bonus.
   293. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:43 PM (#4009623)
Italy with the most teams in the knockout stages. Germany, Spain, England, France, and Russia all with two teams.
   294. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:49 PM (#4009631)
So are we going to have a Manchester derby for the Europa League final?
   295. jmurph Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:54 PM (#4009635)
So are we going to have a Manchester derby for the Europa League final?


I sure hope City intends to throw out their youth/reserve teams in the Europa League. I realize they're still a team that has never won anything, but they have a real shot at winning the league and it would be a shame to lose someone to injury in a contest no one values a great deal.
   296. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: December 07, 2011 at 09:57 PM (#4009638)
United probably couldn't have asked for an easier group, either. Benfica, Basel, and Otelul Galati should not have been even remotely difficult for them.
   297. Juan V Posted: December 07, 2011 at 11:23 PM (#4009724)
Ajax also had a couple of goals wrongly disallowed, it seems. Shenanigans?
   298. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 07, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#4009735)
I sure hope City intends to throw out their youth/reserve teams in the Europa League. I realize they're still a team that has never won anything, but they have a real shot at winning the league and it would be a shame to lose someone to injury in a contest no one values a great deal.


They should just put together a Europa League squad completely unrelated to their domestic squad. The following are Manchester City players who have started less than 5 Premier League games for MCFC this season:

Wayne Bridge
Pablo Zabaleta
Alex Kolarov
Owen Hargreaves
Kolo Toure
Nigel De Jong
Nedum Onuoha
Adam Johnson
Stefan Savic
Dedryk Boyata
Roque Santa Cruz
Emmanuel Adebayor
Michael Johnson
Vladimir Weiss Jr.

(the last 5 are out on loan)

Maybe they could even get Tevez to come back for some of these if they promise he doesn't have to set foot in the British Isles.
   299. DA Baracus Posted: December 08, 2011 at 12:09 AM (#4009747)
They could call it their milk carton team. There's the Home Grown player rules to consider, but nothing says they have to actually play those players IIRC.
   300. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 08, 2011 at 12:13 AM (#4009748)
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