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Agreed. I thoroughly enjoy watching this Everton side, probably more than any team in the league.
Yeah....when they choose to close it.
Yeah, that's what I meant when by Moyes being pragmatic. He seems to know his squad's strenghts and weaknesses well and how to deploy them for the situation. From Donovan's comments about being there, he also seems to manage the squad well as a leader--it seems like they're dedicated to the team (or at least to Moyes) and they usually play like it.
I missed that one. Though a mention of West Ham and tv brings up this classic episode of the IT Crowd.
Oh, okay. The English often use the term "pragmatic" as euphemistic shorthand for defensive, limited, and/or unambitious. In that sense, it would be a backhanded compliment for a coach like Moyes, but you obviously didn't mean it that way.
(And now it looks like Nasri might have pulled a groin.)
Because Mancini isn't that good. He really seems determined to prove how smart he is rather than just letting the talent win for him. Guys like that (think Joe Torre or KC Jones) but it works. If you've got the most talent stay the hell out of the way.
There is a level of genius required not to #### up a good thing, Mancini doesn't have it.
He's just keeping the seat warm for the next guy, at this point. More interestingly, what do they do with Balotelli? There aren't many teams that can afford him so their options are extremely limited.
Or Balotelli could suddenly develop an entirely new psyche and become the best young striker in the world.
I think B. Hughes has been hyped up a bit, but when you're bringing on Joe Cole down 0-2 at halftime, there's bigger problems afoot than coaching.
I think that you should be aware that Daniel Sturridge is already been auditioned for the role of the difficult but talented young forward for Liverpool. I do however think that Sturridge will be extremely productive on another side, but his instincts are still crap.
This looks really bad right now. Liverpool looks terribly lethargic. Benteke looks class out there and has some of what Liverpool is missing. He's likely to be a serious target for someone in a year or two.
They looked like Onion stories the day they were written.
Balotelli and Suarez together. This is an excellent idea.
I would watch!
As would I. I didn't mean my comment as snark, it would be genuinely interesting as a neutral fan to watch those two on the field together. Maybe they could get Joey Barton too.
I don't know the context for that gif, but since he did it to Shawcross I will assume it's justified and give the hairy one a pass.
So, for the record, when Villas-Boas leads Spurs to Champions League glory and a league title and leaves to manage Real Madrid, I want Spurs to hire Chris Hughton.
Two minutes after Shawcross made one of the best goal line clearances I have ever seen, he heads one directly into his own net.
While Owen Coyle is unemployed...maybe. If you judge managers relative to the league they work in, then Torino's manager might be the worst. Italian managers in baseball caps just doesn't seem right. A jaunty scarf and Armani or stay the #### home.
Also, my apologies for the Norwich-Wigan spoiler. I had no idea anyone cared!
Serse Cosmi says you're wrong.
An enjoyable time looking at the Bundesliga table. Freiburg only 1 point off a CL spot!
That's the usual Swedish style too.
Presenting former Sweden coach Lars Lagerbäck.
The defending on the third goal couldn't have been much worse
I don't think it's so much profligate finishing as that Liverpool just consistently create below average quality chances, while they concede wonderful opportunities on the counter. That, and Benteke is class.
To be clear, I think they're far from ####. It's just that they're such a weird club, statistically - you could make a very reasonable statistical case for LFC in the top four, despite the actual results. I kind of wonder if LFC has some stat analysts trying to get players who take lots of shots in the box and put shots on target, or tactics that can maximize SiB and SoT, and they're missing something essential about how goals are actually created.
Liverpool has twelve blocked shots today. Twelve! Take those away and their numbers come down precipitously, closer to what Villa recorded.
To me, a blocked shot indicates a defense that is in good position. So, I infer from those numbers that the Reds are throwing attempts at the goal when there really isn't an opportunity. Almost like they hit option J which in there case is to throw shite at the goal. I haven't watched the game yet, but I bet the footage backs the claim.
Or basically ditto to what you said...
I don't know if he's the worst dressed, but he certainly is near the top when it comes to being a whiny arse. His quotes today about Fellaini were a bit rich, basically accusing referees for having it in for his club. Newsflash-Stoke is by far the most physical team in the league but are near the bottom in yellows even though they are second only to City in fouls. Seems maybe he might want to bite his tongue a bit eh?
Fellaini certainly deserved a red (and will get a 3 game ban I suspect) but Pulis just is not likeable in any of his post match commentary.
I was a bit confused by Swansea's tactics and I don't understand why Dyer and Routledge were so entirely absent from the game - I figured Swansea would be trying to counterattack down the flanks, but instead almost all of their counters came down the center of the pitch, where Sandro and Dembele were just a brick wall.
More importantly, I didn't get the soccer trading cards I asked for but I did get a brilliant 1976 Torino FC shirt. I'll just come out and say it--I look damn good in that shirt.
And congratulations to Corinthians, Champions of the World!
Huub Stevens got fired.
EPL Referees: If I gave you any thought I probably would.
I think it's a big part of it. You see this in all contact sports. The officials can set the tone for a game and if they allow Stoke to do some shoving and smacking then they are likely to allow the opponents to respond in kind. When you get a guy like Fellaini who isn't afraid to mix it up you are going to get these kinds of incidents. It's pretty hypocritical for Stoke to complain. I'm with Shooty in that I enjoy their game but when you play a physical brand of soccer teams are going to hit back.
Players recognize the way a game is being played. If they are going to be able to get away with some physicality they are going to do it. You don't have to call a game super tight but you have to demonstrate that there is a line. That was the mistake Webb famously made in the 2010 WC Final.
I don't believe in coincidences, so I'll chalk that one up as a victory for our impeccable taste.
And Pulis' whining was just a continuation of last week when Shotton's second yellow (which was soft) set him off. He's just doing what the coach of a physical team in any sport does, breaking wake for his players.
Stoke's home advantage is way out of line with normal home field in the Premier League. There's evidence that a big chunk of home field advantage has to do with effects on refereeing, and it certainly seems from watching Stoke that they get away with murder at the Brittania.
Over the last three seasons, the normal HFA for points is 1.53 (teams produce about 50% more points at home than on the road) and the normal HFA for goal difference is 1.34 (teams average 34% more goals scored / 34% fewer goals conceded at home compared to on he road). These are the numbers for all the teams that have been in the top flight all three seasons:
1.53 Pts, 1.34 GD - Average
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1.28 Pts, 1.33 GD - Arsenal
1.36 Pts, 1.39 GD - Aston Villa
1.52 Pts, 1.28 GD - Chelsea
1.53 Pts, 1.28 GD - Everton
1.88 Pts, 1.45 GD - Fulham
1.49 Pts, 1.45 GD - Liverpool
1.51 Pts, 1.39 GD - Manchester City
1.40 Pts, 1.35 GD - Manchester United
1.51 Pts, 1.51 GD - Newcastle United
2.19 Pts, 1.86 GD - Stoke City
1.17 Pts, 1.16 GD - Sunderland (huh)
1.46 Pts, 1.33 GD - Tottenham Hotspur
1.37 Pts, 1.28 GD - West Bromwich Albion
1.40 Pts, 1.29 GD - Wigan Athletic
They did reportedly play on a smaller pitch until standardization was imposed this season, but Stoke has maintained an outlying HFA this seasons so far as well (2.0 Pts, 2.4 GD). It demands explanation, and I think that refereeing - and underlying that, peculiarly dirty play - makes a lot of sense as an explanation.
The announcers often talk about the atmosphere and the noise at the Britannia as being the best and loudest in the country. I don't know if that's got any truth to it but it's a common enough theme that I'd bet it's not far from the truth. It would make sense that those things would have an impact on referees.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
And Juninho has signed with the Red Bulls. More of this please.
*Not a reverse jinx, though I would certainly be ok if it turns out to be.
He's just a 37YO free kick specialist at this point, right? I assume he's a DP?
Well the last time they played each other, after 90 minutes it was tied after Arsenal came back from being down 4-0, with the tying goal scored in the 96th minute. So I can see a way.
Arsenal's +10 GD is 4th in the league. SuperGrover's SiB/SoT/chances based metric has Arsenal 6th in the league, though Liverpool seem to defy normal conversion numbers, so Arsenal would be 5th of the non-Liverpool clubs. They have been legitimately bad over the last six weeks by any measure, but they were a good bit better than their record in the first couple months of the season. I figure they're most likely just fine, especially once Wenger puts Gervinho on the third team where he belongs.
We'll see, but probably. Apparently he is very good friends with Kaka, and NY signed Kaka's brother too. He is not a DP though.
I don't know, I just pretend League Cup results don't exist. That was an entirely nutty game, though.
Wow - I'm all for bringing in Kaka, but the Red Bulls already have a pretty imbalanced club. Kaka would just add to that.
Yeah, I'm being hyperbolic when I say there's no chance they lose to Reading, but I guess I don't see Arsenal as being all that frail. I think they're a shade above Tottenham in quality and so they will have to suffer dips and form like Tottenham does. Now, I completely understand if becoming Tottenham is a crisis for Gooners...
A well built non-dysfunctional team? Please, this is the Red Bulls we are talking about.
And whether or not Arsenal lose, feel free to make fun of Shooty for expanding his collection of poseur shirts to the continent!
Liar! I already had Freiburg gear...
Why would I need Arsenal to lose today to be able to do that?
Especially if you're going to defend like that. Ye gods.
I like how they use pictures of the players on their tactics sheets, in case they forget what they look like, I guess.
Also, where do Drogba and Anelka end up now that the China dream is coming to an end? I don't think I want either at Spurs. Check that--I KNOW I don't want either at Spurs.
Seems like Drogba and Juve would be a match made in heaven. Put him up top and they would be an awfully difficult team to beat in the Champions League.
Conte has denied the links to Drogba, but that may just be the beginning of the dance. The ACN will complicate things for anyone signing Drogba, too. Also, he wants a 2 year deal which I think is going to be a tough one.
Reportedly on 15 million euro a year net, Messi is now the highest-salaried player in the world. Xavi and Puyol are both rumoured to have taken pay cuts.
I had no idea this was ever a thing.
Was Steinbrenner given two lifetime bans? I thought of Steve Howe as somebody who could maybe challenge for a notorious title like that but according to the wikipedia each was only given one permanent ban from baseball.
[EDIT] Advance apologies for OT'ing the OT thread.
BTW, the Inter - Hellas Verona cup tie has been suspended for a few minutes to allow tear gas (used outside the ground by the lovely Italian police) to dissipate.
Shooty, I've seen 1.FC Saarbrucken play at home. They aren't very good anymore.
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