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Tuesday, January 01, 2013

OT: The Soccer Thread: January 2013

Because the first sporting event of 2013 that I watched was a soccer match.

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   1601. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 10:20 AM (#4358877)
Mario Balotelli's agent Mino Raiola speaking to SKy Italia: "With Balotelli the value of Serie A grows by 50%, that of the Premier League diminishes by 50%. He also claimed English journalists will now be worried about their jobs because they won't know what to write about anymore. The man's a charmer."


Awesome.
   1602. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 10:22 AM (#4358880)
Alou Diarra leaving West Ham for Rennes.
   1603. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 10:28 AM (#4358889)
So did M'Vila actually end up in Russia or was that just a rumor?
   1604. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 10:31 AM (#4358890)
So did M'Vila actually end up in Russia or was that just a rumor?

Yep, Rubin Kazan.
   1605. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM (#4358892)
Diarra the obvious replacement, then. That's got to be quite a change for M'Vila. He's been at Rennes since he was about 12 or 13 years old.
   1606. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:07 AM (#4358928)
Beckham to PSG is being reported in real newspapers. That's nuts.


In December Carlo Ancelotti said they had no use or interest in Beckham. I'm sure he's thrilled with this signing.

Multiple reporters (real reporters, not Mail/Mirrors) are confirming that Spurs are going to try to get Damiao today. Ok.


Damaio wouldn't sign for me in Football Manager unless I gave him an absurd contract. It is okay that I don't like him in real life for that?
   1607. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:08 AM (#4358929)
Mario Balotelli's agent Mino Raiola speaking to SKy Italia: "With Balotelli the value of Serie A grows by 50%, that of the Premier League diminishes by 50%. He also claimed English journalists will now be worried about their jobs because they won't know what to write about anymore. The man's a charmer."

Quick! Somebody sell the man a bridge!
   1608. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:18 AM (#4358935)
Damaio wouldn't sign for me in Football Manager unless I gave him an absurd contract. It is okay that I don't like him in real life for that?

Yes.
   1609. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:23 AM (#4358942)
Mario Balotelli's agent Mino Raiola speaking to SKy Italia: "With Balotelli the value of Serie A grows by 50%, that of the Premier League diminishes by 50%.
This sounds like the same math behind the famous "Well, Rickey’s not one of them, so that’s 49 percent right there.”
   1610. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM (#4358944)
Jack Butland to Stoke.
   1611. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4358947)
Evidently the deadline has killed twitter.
   1612. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:28 AM (#4358948)
Yes.


Good stuff.

Evidently the deadline has killed twitter.


Yeah, it's dead.
   1613. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:28 AM (#4358949)
Chris Samba, altogether, will cost QPR 33 million pounds. That is panic buying at its best.
   1614. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 11:48 AM (#4358966)
Rory Delap to Barnsley. Who will clean the balls now?
   1615. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM (#4358994)
   1616. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:12 PM (#4358997)
Anzhi have bid 34 million pounds for Willian!
   1617. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:14 PM (#4359000)
Was just going to post that.

Excellent player (who has deserved a bigger stage for some time), but that's seriously crazy money.
   1618. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM (#4359002)
Levy, you cheapskate! Why wouldn't you match Anzhi's bid!!!1
   1619. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM (#4359007)
Maybe the oligarchs should focus a little more on bread and a little less on circuses...
   1620. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:18 PM (#4359008)
Apparently someone named "Ashton" was the most expensive transfer seven years ago. I have no idea who that is, and the picture doesn't help.

Aha, he's the guy who had to retire at 26 because of an ankle injury. I remember hearing the sad story about him now.
   1621. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:19 PM (#4359011)
Crispix: Dean, not Kutcher.
   1622. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM (#4359014)
Maybe the oligarchs should focus a little more on bread and a little less on circuses...

Zing! I was going to go with "I guess Spurs dodged a bullet here since the market is telling us that Willian isn't quite as good as Andy Carroll."
   1623. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:27 PM (#4359020)
SPURS THINK FACTORY
Fullback prospect Adam Smith will remain on loan at Millwall for the rest of the season.
   1624. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:31 PM (#4359026)
Fulham have put in a £2.5m bid for Bolton striker David Ngog. Remember him? I don't think his transfer fee TO Bolton was ever publicized but it can't have been much less than that.

In other Bolton news they apparently are getting a Sierra Leone international on loan from Partizan Belgrade. What?
And in a more traditional paradigm, a Slovak player on loan from a Czech team.
   1625. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:38 PM (#4359037)
Transfermarkt says that Bolton paid 4.5 million euro for N'gog.

The apostrophe must have cost them something.
   1626. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4359039)
Hazard will only serve a 3 game suspension for kicking the ballboy which makes you wonder why the FA charged him with violent conduct at all. 3 games seems fair enough to me, anyway.
   1627. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 12:58 PM (#4359063)
Beckham says he'll be donating his entire PSG salary to a children's charity there in Paris. He's a good egg, that boy David.
   1628. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:03 PM (#4359068)
SPURS THINK FACTORY
Diminutive attacking midfielder/wing forward prospect Alex Pritchard heads to Peterborough on loan for the rest of the season. No word on whether he signed a new contract/extension as part of the deal.
   1629. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:03 PM (#4359069)
Beckham says he'll be donating his entire PSG salary to a children's charity there in Paris. He's a good egg, that boy David.

Will he be donating the money he gets for his image rights, too?
   1630. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:08 PM (#4359075)
Will he be donating the money he gets for his image rights, too?

Would it be cynical of me to suggest that he won't, as that probably doesn't fall under the purview of FFP?
   1631. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:08 PM (#4359076)
Heurelho Gomes (remember him?) goes on loan to Hoffenheim.
   1632. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:09 PM (#4359079)
Also worth noting that Beckham's image rights payments, unlike his salary, are almost certainly outside the scope of the 75% income tax in France.
   1633. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:10 PM (#4359081)
SPURS THINK FACTORY
Gomes moves to Hoffenheim on loan for the rest of the season. He's still got a year left on his Tottenham contract, but I reckon we've probably seen the last of the Octopus in a Spurs shirt. I for one will miss him terribly.
   1634. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:13 PM (#4359088)
I for one will miss him terribly.

I have a soft spot for all the CL qualifying players and the players that got us past the two-headed monster from Milan. Legends, all of them.
   1635. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:15 PM (#4359093)
Beckham was asked precisely how much will be donated to charity on his behalf. He replied: "A very good figure ... that's one thing that we're very excited about, to be able to give a huge sum to a children's charity in Paris is special." Sitting beside him, Leonardo explains: "We are going to arrange that, we haven't yet had the time to organise everything. We just agreed on the concept and we will inform you all when it has been finalised." Lots of folks wondering whether this is some wheeze to enhance the reputation of PSG and Beckham while lightening taxable income. I don't know, but your inquisitiveness is admirable.


We're not the only ones cynical about Brand Beckham. From The Guardian's transfer blog.
   1636. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:27 PM (#4359119)
Some rumors that Nacho Monreal is moving from Malaga to....ARSENAL! ARSENAL TRANSFER NEWS ALERT!!!!!!
   1637. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:29 PM (#4359123)
   1638. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:30 PM (#4359127)
Some rumors that Nacho Monreal is moving from Malaga to....ARSENAL! ARSENAL TRANSFER NEWS ALERT!!!!!!

Mmmhhh nachos *drool*.
   1639. SuperGrover Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4359130)
I'm not sure how QPR's business model works


If ever an EPL organization could remind one of the underpants gnomes, it's the current QPR regime.
   1640. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:32 PM (#4359131)
Nachos Montreal sounds gross.
   1641. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:32 PM (#4359132)
Na-cho na-cho man, I want to be a na-cho man!

You're welcome Gooners. That one was free of charge.
   1642. jmurph Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4359133)
Some rumors that Nacho Monreal is moving from Malaga to....ARSENAL! ARSENAL TRANSFER NEWS ALERT!!!!!!


Signing a new player would almost be like a.... uh, a new... signing. Dammit, that joke doesn't work if they're going to sign people.
   1643. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:35 PM (#4359138)
If ever an EPL organization could remind one of the underpants gnomes, it's the current QPR regime.

Are they any different that Chelsea or Man City or Fulham? It's clearly not being run as a business.
   1644. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:36 PM (#4359140)
OH NOES! The David Bentley transfer to QPR has broken down. Curse ye gods in heaven!
   1645. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:38 PM (#4359144)
And The Telegraph and Sky reporting no Damiao transfer. Shocking.
   1646. SuperGrover Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:39 PM (#4359148)
Walcott and Bale are very different players to me. Neither can do what the other can and thus don't see the comparisons as purely apples to apples.

With that said, Bale is clearly the higher upside player (I think mainly as a result of unmatched size and athleticism) and I doubt anyone in the world would trade him for Walcott.

It somewhat reminds me of the Lebron vs. Carmelo argument win they first came out (remember that? what a laugh!). Lebron's unmatched physical gifts far outweighed any current skill deficits he may have versus Carmelo and, in time, he was able to close those gaps for the most part as well. I see the same outlook for Bale vs. Walcott.

I do feel Walcott has easily been Arsenal's best player this season.
   1647. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:42 PM (#4359152)
OH NOES! The David Bentley transfer to QPR has broken down. Curse ye gods in heaven!

Presumably 'Arry rang up Tony Fernandes and alerted him to the fact that, while he meets the minimum wage criteria to play for QPR, Bentley is in fact too s**t even for them.
   1648. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4359160)
Momo Sissoko to Fiorentina from PSG. Loan with option to buy.
   1649. SuperGrover Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:49 PM (#4359168)
Are they any different that Chelsea or Man City or Fulham? It's clearly not being run as a business.


Well, Man City is at least good. Fulham...eh, who gives a crock about Fulham?
   1650. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:51 PM (#4359174)
Well, Man City is at least good. Fulham...eh, who gives a crock about Fulham?

I just mean in sense of clubs that lose money with no hope of getting it back. Whether Man City is good or not seems besides the point in the context of if their business model makes sense. It clearly doesn't make any business sense but I don't think profit is what they're after. That sums up QPR pretty well, too.
   1651. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:52 PM (#4359179)
Heurelho Gomes (remember him?) goes on loan to Hoffenheim.
Richard's Most Notable Sports Gomes:
2005-07: Jonny
2008-2009: Heurelho
2010: Jonny/Heurelho
2011-Present: Jonny

Around Spring 2010 I was finally starting to say it "Gomez" and then Jonny rebounded into a contributing member of a Division-winning team and it was back to "Gomes," rhymes with "holmes."
   1652. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 01:53 PM (#4359180)
Roma put Big Stek on a plane to complete his loan deal to Fulham without realizing they only had about half an hour left in the Italian transfer window to procure a replacement. Oops. I hope Maarten enjoys his whirlwind jaunt.
   1653. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4359195)
   1654. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4359196)
Looks like Odemwingie to QPR is going to happen. It's cool, though, because selling DJ Campbell to Blackburn will free up funds.
   1655. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4359203)
I imagined something more like this, ursus

That's Rosie, of course...
   1656. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4359204)
It clearly doesn't make any business sense but I don't think profit is what they're after. That sums up QPR pretty well, too.
I think QPR is a bit different currently given that they are at significant risk of relegation. Relegation could destroy them - there's a certain kind of economic rationality to taking an already unsustainable balance sheet and making it worse, when the alternative is Portsmouthing.
   1657. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:07 PM (#4359206)
Cuenca goes from Barcelona to Ajax on loan, an interesting deal that could benefit all parties.
   1658. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:07 PM (#4359208)
I think QPR is a bit different given that they are at significant risk of relegation. Relegation could destroy them - there's a certain kind of rationality to taking an already unsustainable balance sheet and making it worse, when the alternative is Portsmouthing.

With the huge difference being that Tony Fernandes is genuinely ridiculously wealthy and not a money launderer posing as being ridiculously wealthy.
   1659. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4359209)
And The Telegraph and Sky reporting no Damiao transfer. Shocking.


Maybe he asked for outlandish wages.
   1660. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:10 PM (#4359214)
Maybe he asked for outlandish wages.

I think it's hilarious that a lot of Spurs fans have grown to hate him. It's not his fault this transfer never happens and that Spurs come back in for him every window. I do think Spurs need to move on if it doesn't work out again. It's clear Inter are waiting for a club with deeper pockets to come calling. Good luck to them.
   1661. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4359216)
I think it's hilarious that a lot of Spurs fans have grown to hate him.


I was referring to my own 1606. Which is to say I understand those fans.
   1662. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4359218)
I was referring to my own 1606.

I know. I'm just enjoying that real life is imitating your video game!
   1663. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:14 PM (#4359223)
Fun infographic about the January window from Sporting Intelligence.


What the hell happened in 2008? There was a big jump that year that seems to have held up (though this year is a bit down making my point a bit less meaningful). Was there a rule change that kicked in or a new TV contract or something?
   1664. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:15 PM (#4359226)
Roma put Big Stek on a plane to complete his loan deal to Fulham without realizing they only had about half an hour left in the Italian transfer window to procure a replacement. Oops. I hope Maarten enjoys his whirlwind jaunt.

Evidently he's still in the air and doesn't know the deal is off yet. Can we call this a Reverse Berbatov?
   1665. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:17 PM (#4359232)
The QPR brain trust in action.

That's hilarious, but why the hell is Shaun Derry in there?
   1666. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:23 PM (#4359239)
Freiburg news! They're are signing Hendrick Zuck from Kaiserlautern. I have no idea who he is but I'm happy for some Freiburg news! This has been your Freiburg news moment.


Attacking midfielder, mostly plays on the left, but is ambipedal, so can play elsewhere if needed. Good technically, but fairly raw still, could use some more stamina, as he seems to fade late in games, when not subbed. And I have seen maybe 2 of his matches, plus some Zweite Liga highlights, so the probability of me talking out of my ass is pretty high, but it's the internet, so whatever.

In Freiburg's 4-4-2, I assume he will mostly share time on the left with Caligiuri, who against all odds is German, and has been pretty awful. With maybe the occasional spot service on the right for Schmid, who against all odds is French, and has also been not good.
   1667. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:25 PM (#4359242)
Thanks FPH. I'm a little frightened of you now, though. One day I'll get my German up to snuff and be able to follow the club properly.
   1668. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4359249)
This is most definitely shit, but if Everton fans want to panic, PSG are supposedly in for Fellaini.
   1669. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4359251)
Thanks FPH. I'm a little frightened of you now, though.

Only a little? I'll try harder then.
   1670. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4359252)
SPURS THINK FACTORY

Alex Pritchard has signed a 2.5-year contract, so he'll remain Spurs after the half-season loan to Peterborough.
   1671. Jeffo has an El Camino full of Rampage Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:31 PM (#4359253)
[1668] - I always WANT to panic, but I really don't think such a move happens now, with them sitting 1 point out of 4th place. But that's why I have 4 tabs open on my browser on soccer sites right now....
   1672. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:31 PM (#4359254)
This is most definitely ####, but if Everton fans want to panic, PSG are supposedly in for Fellaini.


I'll believe it when I see it.
   1673. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:34 PM (#4359260)
Yeah, that sounds like last-minute bullshit. Read somewhere else that the reports are coming from a newspaper owned by PSG, so it's most likely either an offer sure to be rejected or a bit of hyping up the fans.
   1674. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:35 PM (#4359262)
Okay FPH, give a synopsis on how you think Mohamed "Medo" Kamara is going to do in his big move from Partizan Belgrade to Bolton. Is it going to be like for like, with Jay Spearing being replaced by an Islamic, Sierra Leonean version of Jay Spearing? Or do we have something different to expect.
   1675. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4359267)
Alex Pritchard has signed a 2.5-year contract, so he'll remain Spurs after the half-season loan to Peterborough.

Yay!

But that's why I have 4 tabs open on my browser on soccer sites right now....

I've got bug-eyes and carpal tunnel right now.
   1676. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:42 PM (#4359271)
Brek Shea got his work permit. He's a Potter!
   1677. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:48 PM (#4359287)
Brek Shea got his work permit. He's a Potter!


I'm not sure how Shea fits at Stoke since he's an attacking player. But he is tall.
   1678. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 02:52 PM (#4359301)
I'm not sure how Shea fits at Stoke since he's an attacking player. But he is tall.

And he has the requisite backpfeifengesicht.
   1679. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:01 PM (#4359319)
Okay FPH, give a synopsis on how you think Mohamed "Medo" Kamara is going to do in his big move from Partizan Belgrade to Bolton. Is it going to be like for like, with Jay Spearing being replaced by an Islamic, Sierra Leonean version of Jay Spearing? Or do we have something different to expect.

They play the same position, other than that they are polar opposites. Am mostly familiar with him from his Helsinki days, but he is a much better passer than Spearing. Main concern is if he can deal with the physicality of the EPL. His defensive game tends to rely more on vision and intelligence, and picking out opponents passes, than being a PITA like Spearing. Though he is pretty good at winning headers too.

And interesting side note: He lost both his parents at age 7 due to the civil war in Sierra Leone.
   1680. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:05 PM (#4359331)
So much cross information about Leandro. Some reporters saying it's dead, some reporters saying the Inter board is meeting about it right now as Spurs have increased their bid. Spurs ITK's are split 50-50, too. 4 hours to go!

I know I'm fully indoctrinated as a Spurs fan as I just assume that even if he signs now he will be crap.
   1681. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:09 PM (#4359340)
I don't understand QPR's interest in Jenas. He's terrible. 'Arry had him on his squad and never played him, because he's terrible. But apparently Jenas to QPR is a thing that's probably happening.
   1682. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:16 PM (#4359347)
'Arry had him on his squad and never played him, because he's terrible.

You are misremembering, sir. Jenas was ahead of Sandro on the pecking order until inuries forced 'Arry's hand. That said, Jenas really isn't very good. As bad as he looks on tv he's even worse in person. Mrs. Shooty even noticed how much slower he was than other players a couple of years ago.

edit: Let's also remember that Jenas played in the 3-1 win over Inter at the Lane. Legend!
   1683. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4359351)
Simon Vukcevic's contract at Blackburn has been terminated by mutual consent.

But he was so good in FM10!
   1684. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:31 PM (#4359360)
Ben Smith--BBC--tweeting Spurs still working on Damiao. This is better than season 3 of The Wire!
   1685. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4359362)
Alex Pritchard has signed a 2.5-year contract, so he'll remain Spurs after the half-season loan to Peterborough.

I has a happy.

I don't understand QPR's interest in Jenas. He's terrible. 'Arry had him on his squad and never played him, because he's terrible. But apparently Jenas to QPR is a thing that's probably happening.

My guess is taking Jenas is part of the loan "fee" for Townsend.
   1686. Textbook Editor Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4359363)
So how good could/would this Damiao fellow be? I honestly have not followed him at all.
   1687. OsunaSakata Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:33 PM (#4359365)
Can anyone explain or post a link about why soccer has transfers rather than trades? What is the "Moneyball" style strategy? A youth academy producing players to sell off and use the proceeds to buy expensive established players?
   1688. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:34 PM (#4359367)
I would not be at all surprised if the Damiao stuff is completely fabricated/recycled by the sports media outlets in order to help retain eyeballs over the course of the evening. Advertisers paid good money for those spots on SSN, you know.
   1689. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:37 PM (#4359369)
So how good could/would this Damiao fellow be? I honestly have not followed him at all.

Imagine Steven Fletcher with the technical skills of a Brazilian midfielder. He's a big, strong center forward who is good in the air, can take a defender on with the dribble and is very technical in and around the box. He's also very good at involving other players on a move. He's no sure thing like a Neymar so I think the 16 to 19 million (depending on who you believe) Spurs are offering is fair, especially since no other clubs of note have made an offer. If Inter want to keep him to achieve their own ambitions, then fair play to them, but I don't think Spurs are low-balling them at all. He's their Modric, basically.
   1690. DA Baracus Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:38 PM (#4359371)
I would not be at all surprised if the Damiao stuff is completely fabricated/recycled by the sports media outlets in order to help retain eyeballs over the course of the evening. Advertisers paid good money for those spots on SSN, you know.


Twitter crashing a few times today was the best thing that could have happened for them.

What time, locally, does the window close? If it's at midnight they're missing out on it being a premium television event.
   1691. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:39 PM (#4359372)
What time, locally, does the window close?

11 pm.

The last window deadline I worked from home and so could watch sky's coverage. It was glorious!
   1692. Mattbert Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:53 PM (#4359380)
I will laugh myself inside out when Spurs sign Damiao...and then immediately loan him back to Internacional until the summer.
   1693. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4359382)
I will laugh myself inside out when Spurs sign Damiao...and then immediately loan him back to Internacional until the summer.

You go straight to hell!

Spurs ITK's think it's going to happen now. Against my better judgement, I'm getting excited.
   1694. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:55 PM (#4359383)
Jermaine Jenas has been doorstepped outside Loftus Road because the doors are locked to the stadium and the poor sap has to stand around outside. Perhaps Harry Redknapp has had a change of heart. "I'm signing for a top club," says Jermaine. They're actually bottom, but ho hum.


Triffic stuff.
   1695. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 31, 2013 at 03:55 PM (#4359384)
Can anyone explain or post a link about why soccer has transfers rather than trades?

History and European law basically. Teams legally can't simply assign a player to a different team against the players will. They have to negotiate a new contract with the player. For every player you add, that's 2 more parties that can muck up the trade. Also it can be difficult for teams to find trading partners that match up, especially for lower level teams, dealing with the big clubs. Money is just... simpler.

What is the "Moneyball" style strategy?

Buy all the French players.

Same as in baseball really, find undervalued assets. In football that is mostly scouting the less exposed players, similar to Latin American scouting in baseball. Youth academies can be productive, but the impact is typically much less than in baseball, since there are no indentured servitude contracts for youth players, and the players have so much more power.
   1696. Howling John Shade Posted: January 31, 2013 at 04:10 PM (#4359392)
Spurs ITK's think it's going to happen now. Against my better judgement, I'm getting excited.


http://imgur.com/p6mvy4D
   1697. OsunaSakata Posted: January 31, 2013 at 04:15 PM (#4359396)
Thanks, FPH.
   1698. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2013 at 04:15 PM (#4359397)
Leandro deal off again. I'll be back in a few minutes to say it's on again. I have to say, no matter what, I'm enjoying following this.
   1699. ursus arctos Posted: January 31, 2013 at 04:16 PM (#4359400)
The Freiburg Caliguri has a brother who plays for Mainz.

As far as I can tell, neither of them are at all related to former USMTN stalwart Paul Caliguri, who spent more than five years playing in Germany in the late 80s/early 90s (HSV, Meppen, Rostock, Freiburg and St. Pauli). He actually won the last ever DDR Oberliga with Rostock in 1991.
   1700. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 31, 2013 at 04:18 PM (#4359403)
Leandro Transfer Rumors:Spurs = Manny Ramirez Trade Rumors:Red Sox
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