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Assuming he's out most of the rest of the season, what are the options? A rotation is Thudd/Dembele/Parker/Livermore is what we have now and with Dembele's hip and Parker just coming back to fitness, that kind of scares me. Do they try to bring in Holtby now even though he's not really a deep lying CM? Do you go hard after Sissoko? How about this for a cheeky move...try to get Alex Song on loan from Barca as they seem to have no use for him? The last one would help the club and give me a good chuckle so I'm in favor of it. (Song has only 7 appearances this year for Barca. Ouch.)
They are just letting Shooty down as gently as possible. What makes it more discouraging for me is that it feeds my worry that Sandro may be an injury-prone player. He had problems before, but his starting every league game this season had me hopeful that he'd put that behind him. Now he goes down without being touched and requires surgery. So that sucks because of broader implications as well as the short-term loss of a candidate for Spurs' player of the season.
the type of clowns that build Death Stars with exposed exhaust vents, and gaps in their defensive coverage.
Ugh. I really don't see why he'd go there. I don't like Pep, he was part of my disliking Barca, but Oktoberfest and an old grouchy German club power structure over Lake Como and bunga bunga? Really?
re: Sneijder to Liverpool.
Will never happen. Ever. That has to be Sneijders agent. Its all over the place so it has to be getting leaked from somebody. His wages are astronomical. Even if they used what Sahin was making on loan it would (at my best guess) only be about half what Sneijder is making. Even if it was a loan deal. Besides, I don't think the missus is a Wirrall kind of gal...
re: Arsenal
I actually tend to disagree with the good everywhere thinking, or at least the thinking that it would require a lot of money. I don't think it would require a ton of money to upgrade at centre back. I think they could use a hardy midfielder which wouldn't cost too much. They could use a striker, but that's usually expensive. Hardly anybody is good at fullback, so I would probably also agree there. There just aren't that many good fullbacks, to upgrade there in any meaningful fashion would probably be costly. Johnson for Liverpool is one of the better ones in the PL and he aggravates me almost every match. Which reminds me:
MCoA I don't think I ever responded back to your thoughts about the talent level of LFC. You mentioned Lucas and Johnson, both are among those I was thinking of when I said good players but not (in my opinion) top of the table calibre. I'm as big a Lucas fanboy as there is, but he has not been the same since the injuries. Johnson showed why I don't rate him as a top of the table player this past weekend. His marking is frequently atrocious and bites the club repeatedly. *
* Also I am growing to dislike BR more and more. He gets his tactics wrong so often its maddening. He usually has the sense to fix things in the second half, but he shouldn't be getting them wrong to start with. I think we might have gotten a snake oil salesman, I hope not. He's gone with youth which I initially took as a good sign but it might have been because he had no choice. I thought he was going to clean house but the coddling of Carra and a few of his other actions have been troubling. I also can't get over that Centaur style painting in being Liverpool. I don't think I've ever mentioned that on here, and I know its just a tv show, and the portrait has become a cliche, but that was a Centaur moment for me. Every time I see a shot of BR on the sidelines I think of that portrait. He just seems like he's in over his head and the transfers he's made have strengthened that feeling.
** edit to say: I'm not saying that top of the table teams don't have weak points, but when you have four excellent strikers like Man U you can paper over certain areas. If you are LFC and guys like Lucas and Johnson are close to the best you have, its not good enough.
You could say the same about the FC Barcelona that Guardiola grew up with.
Neither Jones nor Graham seems like the right kind of player for Swansea, who I'd think would want a pure goal-scorer, a 20-minute Chicharrito type to come on and push Michu deeper when Swansea needs a goal, rather than a big, athletic hold-up guy with moderate skills.
They also signed a striker from Spain for half a Michu. I know nothing about him, though. Roland Lamah from Ossasuna.
And why would Kenwyne Jones want to play for a team that doesn't wear red and white stripes?
Agreed with the entire post. Defensive mid and central defense are clearly their biggest problems to me. Not sure if Arteta and Wilshere can compete physically with bigger attackers and, as you mentioned, Kosc/Merte is pretty average. Of course, given the quality of central defense in the EPL maybe there isn't much available to upgrade to?
I think Giroud is just fine and he and Walcott are sufficient adequate up top. Not great, but good enough.
This reminds me of a question I have for those with more history with European soccer than I. Why is it so difficult to get legitimate injury reports anywhere? Given the influence of gambling/casino sponsorship at least in England, one would think there would be a requirement to divulge injury information in some manner as the NFL. Maybe not to that extent, but it's virtually impossible to find out with any accuracy how long players will be out.
Sure, they're fine, but only if you're competing with the Tottenham's of the world, not with the Man U's and Man City's. It's just a matter of expectation. Is Arsenal, as a club, happy with St. Totteringham's Day being their trophy every year or do they they want to sit at the big boys' table again?
Diaby did come back last game. Granted hoping he will stay healthy is a pipe dream. Even though he isn't a defensive midfielder he does give them a physical presence - wasn't there a Diame rumor floating around?
Certainly. Hope I didn't give the impression that those guys could take them to the top of the table. More so implicitly agreeing with others who mentioned an upgrade at striker would be very expensive. They certainly don't have the strikers City or United do, but probably as good as anyone else.
Diame has a 3.5 million pound buyout clause, I believe, which is why he's being linked with Arsenal. With Sandro out, Spurs might think about jumping on that.
Certainly. Hope I didn't give the impression that those guys could take them to the top of the table. More so implicitly agreeing with others who mentioned an upgrade at striker would be very expensive. They certainly don't have the strikers City or United do, but probably as good as anyone else.
I guess I harp on this as I, like Gooner fans probably do, still see Arsenal as one of the mega bastard clubs of Europe but they sure don't act like it in the transfer market.
Or Pablo. Seems like Ladrup is throwing in the towel. Wenger going all in on his side with the full first team squad for the most part. Interesting considering the Gunners have the Boxing Day postponement coming up next week. Will be 4 games in 12 days.
Increasingly, it seems that the only way FFP will have some bite in England is if the Premier League itself implements an identical or similar policy at the domestic level. I reckon that depends on the likes of "prudent" big clubs such as Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, and Tottenham (and arguably Everton, Newcastle, and Villa as well) outmuscling City and Chelsea to bend Scudamore's ear on the matter. Will enough owners and chairman want to risk upsetting the apple cart over this? I have no idea.
Diaby did come back last game. Granted hoping he will stay healthy is a pipe dream. Even though he isn't a defensive midfielder he does give them a physical presence - wasn't there a Diame rumor floating around?
It's odd. Wenger has at least tried to fill in the attacking holes left by Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas, and van Persie. Ditto the defensive holes left by Toure, Gallas, and Clichy. Whether he's been successful at it or not is debatable, but at least he's tried. By contrast, he seems utterly uninterested in replacing the combativeness and stout defensive presence in midfield that Flamini, or heck even Gilberto Silva, used to give them.
That sort of player should be relatively easy to come by for a reasonable price, too. I know Arsenal were supposedly keen on M'Vila but backed off after deciding he's a bit of a jerk. (And if any English club is in a position to differentiate between someone being a genuine jerk and just being a Frenchman, it's Arsenal. So fair enough. On the other hand, Samir Nasri.) Setting M'Vila aside, though, I think every club in Ligue 1 has at least one francophone African in the squad who plays a robust defensive midfield and can pass it a bit. How hard can it be to pick one up?
Milan Badelj of the mighty Hamburg would absolutely not suit them perfectly, not under any circumstances. Stay away, Arsene! He is poison!
Man United has needed that type of player for a while too.
That is one fancy NASL stadium!
It's baffling, considering how much silverware he won with Patrick Fuckface Vieira, and how little he has won without...
Interesting question. One answer is that the European soccer authorities have never considered themselves the handmaidens of the bookies in the way that the NFL does. Part of the explanation of that is historical: betting on soccer is popular in Europe because soccer is popular. To a significant extent, the relationship between American football and gambling is the opposite (at least historically). Professional football became more popular as it came to be seen as the perfect vehicle for betting.
Another factor is the type of betting involved. What North Americans would consider to be standard forms of betting on sports are still relatively new in many European countries. The form of betting that dominated Europe until the relaxation of state monopolies in the 90s and 00s was that of "pools" (quinella in Spain, Totocalcio in Italy) where one needed to successfully predict the results of a schedule of matches in order to win. There were no set odds for individual matches, and individual margins of victory were meaningless. The English version of the pools was especially lottery-like, as what one needed to do was to predict as many score draws (i.e., non 0-0 ties) as possible. While injury data is still of some value in such a system, it isn't anywhere near as valuable as it is in one where you are betting against a spread or on an over/under.
"North American style" betting is becoming increasingly popular in Europe (though the large majority of results-based betting is on a fixed odds, as opposed to point spread, basis), and it will be interesting to see if that drives any moves for better injury reporting (my guess is that it will take a long time, if it ever happens).
It seems like, now that there's so much money in top-level football, "North American style" gambling wouldn't be as much of a problem. But once you get down to the lower levels, or even the lower half of the table in a lot of leagues, would that hold true?
-Arsenal have missed, what, a half-dozen wide open chances at goal? This game seems obviously headed for an 85th minute fluke Swansea goal and an undeserved win.
Your second point is well founded. Recent events have repeatedly proven that match fixing becomes a serious problem when there is suddenly a betting market for games that normally attract three men and a dog. I know people that are being paid to provide goal alert updates to betting websites for Finnish Fourth Division matches, and it's easy to see how even a relatively small amount of money could turn the head of someone who is playing for virtually nothing.
No, the pool betting was there from the beginning, not introduced to fix a problem. It always was the betting form that had the most popular appeal, because you can win big with a small stake. Also, betting on single games made very little sense for the continental monopolies, because after their take of 30-40%, the odds would have been very unattractive.
The pools system just happened to be tough to rig. Somehow I'd confused the two ideas.
And Rooney misses a penalty by about 5 feet. He has now missed 5 of his last 9 penalties. Lordy.
The injured-player situation is pretty frustrating in soccer. Is there really no such thing as a disabled list? For most injured players the fans seem to have a nagging feeling that he might have gotten over his injury, or not been injured to begin with, and now is not playing for some other reason, whether it's the manager being stupid or the player not being good anymore or some sort of contractual thing.
He did spend many of his formative years in the UK. He's regressing!
That run by Luke Shaw to set up the equalizer reminded me of a certain Welshman. Wow.
Good for me. Lots of PL action, the AFCON will be on and Torino is the featured Serie A game!
He and Shakira shot a short video to ask for baby shower gifts for their child-to-be: donations to Unicef.
Sadly it's much smaller now since the advent of the National Lottery, although you can still find pools sheets in most newsagents without much effort.
Oh yes there is! Maurice Edu is going to Bursaspor on loan!
Hilarious. I wonder what "dealing with it internally" means. LFC without Suarez right now would not be such a good team so I don't think there's much Rodgers can say to him or threaten him with.
February 2nd it is. And if we end up with some kind of "Groundhog Day," situation, at least it will be in a bar!
"Behave, or we'll sell you to United."
Just gotta figure out which poseur shirt to way...1976 Torino? 1967 Partick Thistle? 1961 Spurs? Cosmos? So many hipster douche choices!
This is the kind of thing that annoys me. He took a dive, it was obvious he took a dive, BR denied the obvious dive, Suarez admits the obvious dive, BR says he'll be punished for the obvious dive he said was not a dive, on and on and on. Maybe BR will punish Suarez by moving him from the position he's been leading the league in scoring from in favor of a guy that had a purple patch for Bolton a couple of seasons ago.
Oh wait...
edit: for clarity
What is Spanish for, "Enjoy coaching Scunthorpe Senor Brendan"?
Actually, if the weather doesn't get any warmer, I'll be wearing about two dozen sweaters.
I just happened to have a quote on that subject stashed away:
Source
EDIT: And no, I don't actually have an extensive library of snarky quotes about players. I have no clue why I found the above noteworthy at the time. Probably I wanted to torment some Liverpool fan, one of life's small pleasures.
EDIT: No reason why we couldn't build one.
Disco Benny has some new disco boots.
Sandro slowly transforming into BA Baracus?
Yeah, that sounds useful.
I am confused. Did Suarez confirm anything that the entire non-visually impaired world didn't already know? Does Rodgers not watch film?
The point is he's made LFC and Rodgers look foolish as they've been aggressive saying the diving tag is unfair. All that work they've done putting pressure on the refs to give him a break has been crapped on.
I wouldn't say a top four finish is "slipping away" - they'll clearly have to add another good central midfielder for depth, and the downgrade from Sandro to Parker shouldn't cripple the club. But we'll see. This weekend's game will be a good test. Barring new injury news, I'm assuming we'll see a 4-2-3-1 with pretty much all first choice starters, just Parker subbed in for Sandro, at home against the best club in the league. If Spurs can hang with United, I'll be reasonably confident they're good enough to play for 3rd/4th.
As they note, the averages are thrown off by a few clubs (particularly in Italy) that include ridiculously expensive VIP ticket packages in their data. Milan win this with a 5000 euro ticket that the Yankees are jealous of (when we lived there, these were "only" 3000 euros, and widely thought never to be sold for that price).
One weakness of the survey is that it doesn't account for differential single game pricing depending on the opponent, which is becoming ubiquitous in the leagues surveyed.
Seems a bit less likely that Vigo could get away with that (given their relatively remote location), but then if they surveyed prices for a match against one of the Big Two (or Depor), anything is possible.
I see what you are getting at, but as noted above LFC and Rodgers looked foolish for defending that nonsense in the first place. I think they would have been much better off admitting the Stoke play was ridiculous and wouldn't be tolerated and then note the changed behavior as a result (and it has changed, no doubt).
Whatever the case, there is nothing Rodgers is going to do. Suarez is their best player by a wide margin and can basically write his ticket out of there should he choose.
The 4th spot is an interesting one. I personally thought the Spurs were looking very strong, but obviously Sandro's injury changes things. Still though, Arsenal is flawed and pretty mediocre honestly (they are averaging just one GPG if you take out the ridiculousness of Newcastle, Reading, Southampton and the Adebayor-misdemeanor driven Spurs game). Everton is good but extremely thin and dealing with a Croatian Fernando Torres (Jelavic has been awful this season). Liverpool has a shot I guess but 9 points is a good amount of points to make up in 16 games.
Should be interesting for certain.
Does Adebayor stay on or is Dempsey/Sig an option?
Yeah but I haven't seen them with the words "done deal." The timing is good for both teams, which adds to believably. Of course that cuts both ways.
Sneidjer can be a very good player but where does he fit in short term, much less long term?
I could be wrong, but the simplistic reading of the Sneijder situation is that Liverpool will take him, but only on their terms. More explicitly, Sneijder is going to have to take a rather large wage cut if he wants to come to Liverpool. Given that it seems Sneijder isn't too keen on his other options -- play in Turkey, collect a paycheck at Inter under Stramaccioni, who doesn't appear to rate him -- maybe there actually is a decent shot of this happening. As far as where he fits -- Liverpool aren't exactly brimming with offensive talent. At least in games where Liverpool can be expected to dominate the ball, he slots in as the #10 behind Suarez/Sturridge/Borini in a 4-2-3-1.
(This shouldn't be taken as a commentary on whether I actually want them to go after Sneijder. I can see the case for trying to grab a player who was world-class not all that long ago at a cut-rate price, but I wouldn't be crazy about having an injury-prone 28yo on big wages.)
This statement could have been said about Joe Cole (although he was never world-class).
I thought the on, off, on again, off again saga ended up off. Can't say I paid much attention though.
Is the backline settled? I presume Assou-Ekotto returns at LB at some point.
As for Sneijder, meh. Its encouraging that BR knows a 10ish type is a critical need but Sneijder really only had a brief period of true brilliance. But I'd much rather watch him in an attacking role than all the guys that rotated there this season. He might help Suarez and thats the main thing. I'm assuming its only for a loan. If its not I wouldn't go near him.
SG - I'm expecting Benny back in for Naughton this week. He was fit for the FA cup, so a return to starting this week would be a reasonable timetable. It seems like Dawson might be nailed on next to Vertonghen, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Caulker either.
That's official. I find this one perplexing as Southampton had finally found their legs in the PL. I guess maybe they'd been working on this awhile and it's "poor luck" for the chairman Soton had been playing well when they finally got their man. They outplayed Arsenal at home and then drew at Chelsea. I can only hope Tottenham do as well!
As expected, out for the season. No mention of a timetable for a return or how serious the injury is. I will just cross my fingers he's good to go by August.
Fernando Llorente is heading to Juventus. Kaka looks close to heading back to Milan. Gianfranco Zola's name is coming up in the Chelsea manager rumor mill. Victor Valdes will not be returning to Barca next year, which seems surprising to me. He won't be going to Bayern if that's what he's thinking. According to Spurs ITK, Spurs are interested in M'Villa but QPR are offering him crazy wages. I suspect he ends up at Loftus Road.
Weird timing. This feels like a combination of Blackburn sacking Big Sam and Tottenham sacking Big Martin Jol so they could land Juande Ramos. For Soton's sake, I hope Pochettino is more successful than Kean and Ramos.
Adkins should definitely start going by 'Big Nige' now, though.
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