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The most illustrative thing in the ZM piece was that Bale received more than twice as many passes as Lennon did in the game. That is madness. With Lennon in the sort of form he's in right now, and United doubling and tripling up on Bale, Spurs have got to do a better job of switching play out to Lennon when it's obvious the opposition is mostly preoccupied with defending one side of the pitch. Especially after Evra got booked!
Twitter is phenomenal if you use it right.
I want a HQ one from the same angle as the Fox broadcast. They only had it for a couple seconds, but it had the AVB rawr face and Freund going mental as usual in the same frame. The other magnificent thing from the FSC feed? David Pleat pronouncing 'Kagawa' about five different ways, none of them even close to correct.
I also grew annoyed at the apparent new Premier League rule that fouls are not fouls when they are committed on Moussa Dembele.
He has inherited the Shaq/Peter Crouch curse (He's not fouling, he's just bigger than you!), but in reverse. The Moose is so big and strong that no man can possibly foul him; not even Kagawa hanging off his arm like Jeff Van Gundy on Alonzo Mourning.
Although that really looked like Rooney should have had a penalty, right?
Could easily have been a pen. That said, Rooney has perfected the art of knocking the ball way past a defender--where he'd have absolutely no chance of getting it if he's not touched--and then going over an outstretched leg. This wasn't as obvious an example of that "trick" as some of his past exploits, but if Bale has a history then so does Shrek. So f**k that guy.
DeGea is a fantastic reaction shot blocker, maybe the best I've seen. I don't understand how Spurs could fail to give the ball to Lennon every time. Not only was Evra on a yellow, but so was Carrick (who was covering that side).
Absolutely stonewall.
Unlike Tottenham fans he probably doesn't dwell on old #### for years and years. Get over it already.
Ferguson is just tiresome.
But I forget, this is Spurs Mope Factory...
I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation for how that situation arose, so I'm afraid to read on and to spoil the bizarreness.
I didn't even realize it was the case until seeing in on a Man U blog. I'm not whining about the Nani call but about Ferguson's selective memory and his making every triumph of another team a story about him. So, how about you get over it.
Happy now?
Coutinho to Liverpool? I guess if they were unwilling to pay Sneijder's wages, might as well get his replacement at Inter. Is he going to displace anyone in the Liverpool front four. Suarez, Downing, Sturridge, Borini, Sterling look better now then what Liverpool had at the beginning of the season, plus there is Suso and Shelvey putzing around the fringes.
1. For all his weakness on balls in the air, De Gea had a better day than Lloris, who I thought was out of position on the goal.
2. Jones was much better than Parker.*
3. United's central defense is much better than what the Spurs had on the field yesterday.
4. It's not really possible to compare the Utd. "wingers" to those of Spurs. Cleverly and Welbeck weren't true wingers; they had very different roles.
5. Rafael is much better than Naughton.
*In fairness, Parker is 10 years older and coming back from an injury. Parker at his peak would be a different story.
As for his future as a coach, he says he still feels young and in love with football. It is not known if football is planning to get a restraining order.
I think Ferguson's constant complaining about the referees and bullying those about a thousand rungs below him on the English football ladder who are trying the best they can is tiresome. Sue me.
Yet nothing on a physical defensive midfielder. Besides United's forwards, Vidic (who isn't 100% back) and maybe Carrick, I think I would take pretty much everyone on the Spurs.
Vidic is still pretty great, though. I'd agree Rafael is much better than Naughton, though, TBF to Naughton, he's really miscast on the left. He's done an ok job but I would love to see him rotate with Walker on the right. And yeah, Man U's forwards are about a million times better than Spurs'. Man U are just a much better team than Spurs. The only advantage Spurs really have is on the wing.
Anyway, I'm kind of fascinated by what will happen at Southampton today. What do you do if you're a Southampton fan? Adkins was treated harshly but do you make life difficult for the new guy when your position on the table is so precarious?
Also, I've lost track of how many Ligue 1 players Newcastle has signed or want to sign or have almost signed. They all seem like good players, though. Is there a reason they're so fixated on France?
-Just watched the last half hour of Nigeria / Burkina Faso, and I was rewarded with a super-exciting injury time equalizer from Alain Traore, who looks like a world-class midfielder. Nigeria can fairly complain that Efe Ambrose's sending off was a bad call, but I think this result was nonetheless entirely just. The Super Eagles were so negative even before they went down to ten men, and had started egregiously time-wasting by the 65th minute or so, despite having just a one-goal lead and clearly superior overall talent. Annoying. Allez Les Etalons
-Oh, and that exciting injury-time goal - after playing defensively for the clean sheet the last half hour, Nigeria inexplicably got their entire midfield well into the opponents' half on their final attack, allowing Burkina Faso to counter-attack 4-on-4 for the equalizer.
After that, you have a United team that is merely good in defense and deep midfield, and a Tottenham team that's peculiarly strong on the wings. So a man-by-man analysis might give you more Spurs wins than United wins, but that doesn't mean Spurs are the better side.
Is it because they are relatively cheap? Other than PSG there isn't that much money in France. Ashley spent like the drunken fan he is when he first bought the team but now he's shown a fair amount of restraint, even when he got the Andy Carroll bonanza. They obviously have good scouts in France.
Spain seems to be a good place to go looking for talent. Other than the big two, a lot of the teams are pretty cash poor. Finding good starters shouldn't be too hard or expensive, especially if you're in the middle to bottom of the table - you don't need spend tons of money on a Falcao or Llorrente to find an upgrade.
Yeah. It's funny to think back now about how some people thought it was weird for ManU to go after RvP. Where would they be this season without him?
I don't know. Spurs were deadly in the first half at Old Trafford, but I'd say ManU really should have won that game 4-3 or 5-3 with the chances they had. Conversely, I feel like 4-2 to Spurs would have been a more representative scoreline in yesterday's game.
Both games were slightly weird, but I'd go with the game at Old Trafford as the weirder of the two because both teams weren't their usual selves in front of goal. Tottenham's typical profligacy was nowhere to be seen as they finished off 3 of 11 attempts on goal, and ManU was uncharacteristically poor at finishing (especially in the second half - they only had one shot in the first) as they only converted 2 of 16 attempts, several of which were excellent chances.
Based on the watching, 1-1 or 2-1 feels right.
EDIT: And looking at the numbers, 11 of 25 Spurs attempts on goal were blocked before reaching the keeper. That strongly suggests that generally they weren't breaking through the United defense. Only 8 of 25 shots were taken inside the box, and 8 of 25 reached the target. Really, by the numbers, it shouldn't have been more than three goals, and two is probably the most likely. Give demerits for the finishing form of Dempsey and Defoe, maybe it should be just one.
Heck, you don't even need to pay scouts to find those Spanish sleepers like Michu! (Okay, slight exaggeration.)
Nah, but I'm assuming they would have converted the penalty had it been given. Then again, maybe that's a bad assumption. United have missed three of their five spot kicks this season.
And looking at the numbers, 11 of 25 Spurs attempts on goal were blocked before reaching the keeper. That strongly suggests that generally they weren't breaking through the United defense. Only 8 of 25 shots were taken inside the box, and 8 of 25 reached the target. Really, by the numbers, it shouldn't have been more than three goals, and two is probably the most likely. Give demerits for the finishing form of Dempsey and Defoe, maybe it should be just one.
Form or not, I expected Defoe and Dempsey to put those two chances away. They weren't sitters, but they were opportunities that even a struggling forward will bury far more often than not. So that gets us to three. Point absolutely taken on all the blocks. A lot of those were bad decisions to shoot. But a few got through and were dangerous, both from Bale: the one that De Gea somehow saved with his knee in the first half and the one Rio almost headed into his own net in the second half.
United had two shots on target and two Opta-classified "big chances". One goal is about right, and zero is probably more likely than two based on what they created. Obviously arguing about zero / one / two goals is really marginal, so I'll stop now.
Tottenham currently dead last in the EPL in percentage of shots taken inside the box. They're at 44%, while everyone else other than QPR (49%) has taken the majority of their shots from inside the penalty area. Looking at the numbers, I'm wondering if what Spurs need is less a striker or a deep-lying playmaker, and more an advanced creative type - perhaps, you know, maybe they need somebody a lot like Rafael van der Vaart.
EDIT: Coke, or... to Shooty.
Jelavic leads the team in shots. Cow's arse. Banjo. You know the rest. (Okay, not helpful.)
I guess the data discussed upthread a ways doesn't really support this, but it seems like a guy who's struggling to put the ball on target would also struggle to put his shots in a difficult part of the goal for the keeper to save. Sort of like the relationship between command and control in baseball. If you look at a pitcher who walks a ton of guys, are you going to be surprised that he's not painting the black at the knees on the occasions he is in the strike zone?
So if you look at a striker with significantly more shots off target than on (Jelavic is at 41% accuracy, according to Squawka), should we be surprised if he's also struggling to work the keeper when he does get it on frame? It sure looks like a lot of his attempts are either in the middle of the goal or at "a nice height" for the keeper. Contrast his shot map with those of van Persie and Suarez (which are eerily similar, by the way). Or that of Defoe. Or Demba Ba. The thing that jumps out at me is that all these guys who are scoring a lot appear to have a pretty reliable ability to shoot just inside the keeper's lefthand post (right side if you're looking at the goal). Defoe in particular has an incredibly tight cluster of shots in that area. Jelavic has nothing like that. Fellaini does, though.
I don't know if there's anything predictive to be learned from that, but it is a very clear pattern. I think this may be an instance of there being no substitute for watching a lot of games if you're trying to bottom out a real outlier like that.
For example, Fellaini's a very accurate shooter (69%), but his conversion rate is merely good and not as outrageously good as his overall accuracy would suggest. Are a high proportion of his shots on target (he's second in the team in total shots) from headers? I would not be surprised if the conversion rate on headers is significantly lower than "footed" shots. It certainly seems like a more difficult skill, with a much higher chance of the header going slightly askew or being a little powderpuff looping job because you didn't quite catch it right. On the other hand, most headed shots are from close to goal so maybe that balances things out when you factor in all the speculative long-range footed efforts from outside the box.
I wouldn't say it's growing as Liverpool has been better recently and the early returns for Sturridge suggest they have more room for improvement. I guess that's what happens when legitimate forwards are on the end of Suarez-created chances rather than the likes of Jonjo Shelvey.
As for Everton, Jelavic is just awful right now. He has 2 goals from his last 41 shots, 36 of which came in the box. His positional awareness and timing is hideous. Today, he decided to screw up before he could even get the ball out of his feet. He's just a bad player right now.
Mirallas looks a lot better, but his numbers are about the same. If I am Moyes, I am probably sticking with Anichebe for the time being and trying Mirallas-Fellaini-Pienaar in support. To me, that is the best lineup, presuming fitness allows it.
EDIT: Or Coke for some of the same thoughts as above.
BTW, for the data available there is no strong correlation between shot accuracy and conversion rates for shots on target. While there may be some truth to the hypothesis, it does not show in the numbers.
Yep, that's what I was alluding to in the earlier part of that comment. I continue to find it a very frustrating failure on the part of the data. Stupid data.
I guess in a lesser league like MLS, the attackers could be less accurate. But the defenders and goalkeepers might not be as good, either. Sure seems like there's a higher proportion of "golazos" in high end leagues than MLS. But MLS fans would say that's just Euro-snobbery-vision.
Arsenal and Spurs both seem to be sniffing around Diame from West Ham. He seems like a no-brainer for both clubs with that 3.5 million release clause.
Andy Brassell tweets:
Brassell also cites Le Parisien reporting it's Momo Sissoko (PSG), not Moussa Sissoko (Toulouse), who Newcastle are trying to sign. Too many Sissokos!
Ah. I hope Newcastle aren't as confused by that as I am.
I would say it's at least odds even that it's Le Parisiene that's confused.
I just assume he'd make more at Spurs or Arsenal but I don't see a bigger club than Arsenal coming in for him. I'm sure he'd want a pay raise but I don't think he's in the bargaining position Demba Ba was in to hold a club's feet to the fire.
Ayite! Poor Cote d'Ivoire, though 1-1 is a deserved score at this point. They need to defend in midfield, which is particularly weird for a club anchored by Yaya Toure.
I wonder how hot it is--the game seems like it's being played in slow motion.
Yup, it's 90 with clear skies and sun.
So angry that I can't watch this right now. Reading the Goal commentary, it sounds like Gakpe is dominating through the midfield. A mate of mine who lives in France has been hyping him to me for a few years. Cote d'Ivoire should be dominating this match.
That doesn't matter really, release clause or no, players can't be moved against their will, so a new contract have to be negotiated in any transfer and players moving to big clubs always want to be paid like a king.
EDIT: What I mean is that agents don't give a ####, of course they love to put the release clauses in there to make their players tempting targets. But just as they will use a low transfer fee to argue for bigger wages for their players, so will they see a huge fee as a reason for the pay packet to be commensurately big.
If he doesn't have time to think, it seems, he can do some amazing things.
(and thanks for the clarification, SC.)
(I suppose the answer is, "if it's 90 degrees now, imagine what it will be in August," but still...)
It can get pretty chilly in parts of SA in August, especially along the coast. Do they have it in January so as not to exclude the North African countries from being able to host?
Embedded agent Joey Barton is doing a fine job on his mission to scare them all out of Ligue 1. Meanwhile, Derek Llambias waits at the ferry terminal in Calais with a big net.
Well they're in South Africa, where it's summer. If it was in north Africa, the weather wouldn't be dramatically different.
1. Lose out on CL in the most heartbreaking way possible.
2. Sell your talisman and the club's most popular player.
3. ??????
4. Profit!
Except, for real.
Because you can't play it in other nations in the summer.
Right now my girlfriend is in Luxor. It's 6pm and 80 degrees. In the summer it's 120 during the day.
This is just a guess, but maybe the austral summer was the least disruptive time to hold the ACN back in the day. The tournament dates back well over 50 years, when the big European leagues were not the magnets of globe-wide talent that they are now and most of the participants would have been playing in some sort of domestic/local league. Again, this is a guess. I have no idea if such leagues were very influential in setting the greater football calendar in Africa 50-something years ago, or if they even player an austral fall-winter-spring schedule (i.e. the inverse of the current European schedule).
EDIT: Ah, forget it. I see most of the original participating nations are north of the equator.
If only they'd let me do this during my Little League hey day...
2. Sell your talisman and the club's most popular player.
3. ??????
4. Profit!
I think #2 has a lot to do with #4.
I read the accompanying statement as Levy's diplomatic way of pointing out that he can buy shiny, new players or build a shiny, new stadium but not both. So no b!tching about a "lack of ambition" in the January window, plebeians.
Yeah, but all they did was flip it with 2017. So we would have been having this conversation 4 years from now. The short notice change of venue is a reason for empty seats though.
I don't know why Spurs fans always think the club is going to go nuts in the transfer market. That year of the Klinsmann really messed with a lot of people's heads.
I do think that Holtby seems reasonably likely to join Spurs before the window closes. It's reportedly only €2M. That can be done even within a very tight budget.Maybe, but were Spurs required to release their financials today? The only headline that's going to come out of this is "Spurs turn big profit in 2012". That's not a story you release to get the fans off your back.
I think it will happen, too. I wonder if Huddlestone looking a little fitter and livelier Sunday changes the equation at all. He looked noticeable thinner to my eyes.
Maybe, but were Spurs required to release their financials today?
A question custom built for ursus...
Too, the 2008 summer window was totally bonkers. Not really in an ambitious way, but the club did bring in Modric, Bentley, dos Santos, Pavlyuchenko, Corluka, and Gomes that summer. Kinda nuts in retrospect.
This last summer was nutty too--Lloris, Dembele, Dempsey, Vertonghen and Fryers (I'm counting him!). But again, no single break the bank player. ENIC likes to diversify their risk.
Ha! I knew I was forgetting a couple.
I'm confused as to who arranges the transfer, who finalizes the transfer, what happens with the money, etc.
Not sure he has a choice. They have been playing about the worst defense in the league for two months. They are beat all to Hell and with the loss of Ba no longer have an on form striker to rely upon. They are in clear relegation danger if something isn't done.
That's not to say these will work out, but I honestly think they get relegated with the club they have now.
No idea, but he makes Fernando Torres look like Robin Van Persie. He is truly awful.
You and me both! puck would be a good resource for this if he pops in. I think transfers are arranged by the MLS office but I'm not sure how much the club gets, etc. Things are in constant evolution, too, with MLS so I find it hard to keep up with.
Slight quibble, but was Modric really more popular than Bale?
I was talking about Van der Vaart!
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