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Sunday, January 05, 2014

OT: The Soccer Thread January, 2014

With no Champions League or international matches of note, it’s all about the clubs an cup competitions this month:

January 6th: Lazio vs Inter
January 7th: Sunderland vs Man U in the League Cup, Valencia vs Atleti in Copa del Rey
January 8th: West Ham vs Man City in the League Cup
January 10th: Leicester City vs Derby in an important promotion game, Montpelier vs Monaco in Ligue Uhn.
January 11th: Cardiff vs West Ham in a relegation 6 pointer, will Man U lose to Swansea at home again?, but the day’s HUGE game is Barcelona hosting Atletico Madrid. This could decide La Liga.
January 12th: Newcastle vs Man City
January 13th: Aston Villa vs Arsenal
January 14th: FA Cup replays featuring Fulham vs Norwich, second leg of Valencia and Atleti in the Copa del Rey
January 15th: Man City host Blackburn in an FA Cup replay, Lyon vs Marseilles in the French Cup
January 17th: St. Etienne vs Lille
January 18th: Lots of games, no real standouts
January 19th: Swansea vs Spurs, Chelsea vs Man U
January 20th: West Brom vs Everton
January 21st: West Ham vs Man City in the League Cup
January 22nd: Man U vs Sunderland in the League Cup
January 24th: Monchengladbach vs Bayern Munich, not that it really matters
January 25th: FA Cup 4th round featuring Chelsea vs Stoke, Lazio vs Juventus, Monaco vs Marseilles
January 26th: Barca vs Malaga
January 28th: Liverpool vs Everton, Southampton vs Arsenal
January 29th: Tottenahm Hotspur FC vs Man City, Stuttgart vs Bayern
January 31st: Feyenoord vs Chelsea B in Holland, Braunschweig vs Borussia Dortmund

I’d say that Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid is the game of the month and declare it the BBTF Off Topic Game of the Month! Be there!

Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: January 05, 2014 at 04:16 PM | 1016 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   801. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: February 14, 2014 at 02:26 PM (#4657020)
Flop
   802. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:40 PM (#4657083)
That Mourinho quote is great. As a Liverpool fan, I'm not supposed to like him, but I think he's entertaining as hell, save for the eye gouging.
   803. JuanGone..except1game Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4657084)
Man, there's relatively good-natured sniping and then there's this. That was harsh.


It's definitely harsh, but Wenger's "fear of failure" comment was a fastball waiting to be pulled. Say what you want, but Mourinho knows how to keep journalists employed.
   804. Sean Forman Posted: February 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM (#4657214)
I encourage you to watch Balotelli's goal from today. Unbelievable strike. I'm not sure I've ever hit a golf ball that pure.

youtube
   805. frannyzoo Posted: February 14, 2014 at 11:01 PM (#4657217)
Sean: If Mario was still on City, his abstract-expressionist "found object" art goals would put Duchamp to shame. And it still might at Milan/Azzuri. Still, putting work like that with Silva, Yaya and Navas...it seems like a lost opportunity that we'll never get back. A bummer, really.

Still happy for Seedorf here, though. Despite my loathing for anything Berlusconi touches (politically, metaphorically, literally), I'm rooting for Clarence, big time.
   806. Mattbert Posted: February 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM (#4657350)
I encourage you to watch Balotelli's goal from today. Unbelievable strike.

Madre de dios, that is a ####### hit and a half.
   807. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: February 16, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4657670)
And Howard Webb elects not to call a penalty when Oxlade-Chamberlain bodychecks Suarez in the box.
   808. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: February 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4657679)
And now Webb should have given Gerrard a second yellow but just...doesn't.
   809. J. Sosa Posted: February 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4657689)
Howard Webb is a buffoon.
   810. Sean Forman Posted: February 17, 2014 at 01:36 PM (#4658076)
I assume we are giving up on February at this point. :)

Turning this to my very impt Hertha BSC 2020 CL quarterfinalists. I believe I've succeeded in creating a cult because the latest pep talk feedback I looked at said, "Team Cohesion: Your players would be willing to die for each other."

   811. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 17, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4658113)
If Suarez didn't respond to shoulder-to-shoulder contact by grabbing his leg, going limp and flailing around like he's being electrocuted in a bounce house, maybe the referee would perceive it accurately as shoulder-to-shoulder contact.
   812. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: February 17, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4658152)
I mean, I was once a ref myself, so I know how hard it is even at low levels, but it's the ref's job to see through the bullshit and make the correct call.
   813. Swedish Chef Posted: February 18, 2014 at 09:21 AM (#4658392)
Vince McMahon is rumored to be bidding for Newcastle.
   814. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 18, 2014 at 02:57 PM (#4658597)
I think Man City are making a mistake sitting so deep. They'll eventually need to put some pressure on Barca's midfield or they're going to get thrashed.
   815. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4658603)
Dani Alves has been terrible so far.
   816. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:28 PM (#4658617)
PSG has already killed off Leverkusen.
   817. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4658619)
If City want to score in this match, they need to Jesus Navas more involved. Conversely, Barca have repeatedly used Alexis as an outlet and he looks incredibly comfortable in this style of play (something he rarely looks, honestly).
   818. madvillain Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4658620)
Just turned on the city / barca match. Damn, serious skill on display in the build up. I'm too used to watching Sunderland matches.
   819. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:35 PM (#4658625)
Also, this is increasingly becoming an issue in India, which is a good thing I imagine (though the deaths are, obviously, not).*

*As an explanation, about 5M Indians are migrant workers in the Gulf states, of whom around 2M come from the state of Kerala, which largely depends on remittances. India leads the globe in foreign remittances, actually, and a non-insignificant percentage are from the Gulf (though a large percentage are from the UK and US as well).
   820. madvillain Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4658635)
Also, this is increasingly becoming an issue in India, which is a good thing I imagine (though the deaths are, obviously, not).


Just move the damn thing already to the US. We have the infrastructure; the crowds will be massive, and security / slave labor / sharia aren't even on the radar.
   821. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:55 PM (#4658649)
Demichelis was always the weak link for City. But not anymore!
   822. madvillain Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:55 PM (#4658650)
Tough break for City, and now down to 10 men and down a goal.
   823. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:57 PM (#4658651)
"Going down to ten is one thing, being down one is another." err, right now that's the same thing, commentator-guy

EDIT: oh, it's Andy Townsend. No surprise there.

Also, on the replay, it's notable how the goal is a wonderful example of how a striker is supposed to check back. You can see Messi realising that the pass will come to him, sprinting back onside, and then letting the pass be made before he sprints in the other direction. Phenomenal awareness on his part.
   824. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:17 PM (#4658665)

Also, on the replay, it's notable how the goal is a wonderful example of how a striker is supposed to check back. You can see Messi realising that the pass will come to him, sprinting back onside, and then letting the pass be made before he sprints in the other direction. Phenomenal awareness on his part.


In live time I thought he was a yard off sides, it really was a great run.

If City can get out of this at 0-1 they'll have to feel awfully fortunate. Barca would be favorites obviously but City could turn that around still. If Barca can get another one then it's probably over.
   825. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:18 PM (#4658666)
City have been more dangerous with 10 men. They've been countering much more quickly.
   826. madvillain Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:18 PM (#4658667)
City looking lively, good save by Valdez to smother it and not allow a rebound.
   827. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4658674)
I guess that probably kills this tie. The irony for me is that City played like they should have all game only when they went down a man.
   828. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:36 PM (#4658676)
I feel for City. I don't like them but they did everything you'd ask of a team down to ten men against Barca.
   829. madvillain Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:41 PM (#4658683)
I feel for City. I don't like them but they did everything you'd ask of a team down to ten men against Barca.


Very frustrating game for them and their fans, the scoreboard didn't really reflect how well they played. That said, Barca also had numerous chances after City went down to 10, and it could have been 3-1 or 4-2 just as easily.
   830. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:55 PM (#4658700)
I can't believe the most expensive squad ever assembled started DeMichellis at CB in a Champions League elimination game. Meanwhile Barcelona is still starting Mascherano at CB too.
   831. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 18, 2014 at 05:20 PM (#4658710)
Ok second most expensive team. Madrid still has them beat.
   832. Sean Forman Posted: February 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM (#4658952)
I'm with Frank. Seems like they really shot themselves in the foot with that one.
   833. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4659146)
Wegner has decided to start Sonogo. Of course Fox decides to put this on Fox Sports 2 which I don't get on my cable package. I am recording it on Fox Sports en Espanol and not in HD.
   834. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4659164)
Oh, Frodo ...
   835. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4659169)
I guess it's obvious, but Arsenal blew that period of dominance straight into hell, didn't they?
   836. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4659176)

I guess it's obvious, but Arsenal blew that period of dominance straight into hell, didn't they?
Plenty of wasted opportunities in the first 10 minutes but they still look in control here.

How has this only been going on for 25 minutes? Feels like a whole half.
   837. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:24 PM (#4659186)
Aw, hell no. That's a real shame as this was shaping up into a good game and a more interesting tie than the pundits were saying it would be.
   838. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4659190)
Too late to edit Shooty? WOW.
   839. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4659191)
Penalties are hard!

   840. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4659194)
Too late to edit Shooty?

Down a man against Bayern? Sheeyyyyyittttt!
   841. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4659196)
So, IIRC, the last three KO stage games played in England have all had a player from the English club sent off. Nani against Real, Demichelis last night and Chesney today. #homecooking
   842. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4659209)
Michael Ballack doing punditry for Sky. He looks much more comfortable than his stint on ESPN.
   843. Baldrick Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4659228)
What are the possession stats for the second half? I think Arsenal have had the ball for about 2 minutes total. And most of that is when they were picking the ball out of their net.
   844. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4659248)
That was a great run by Pizarro to clear space/Per Mertesacker for Muller.
   845. PepTech Posted: February 19, 2014 at 05:14 PM (#4659277)
Has the away team ever won all eight first legs? Should we bother with the returns?
   846. ursus arctos Posted: February 19, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4659292)
843, according to UEFA, Bayern had 79% possession in the second half.

845, no, there has never been an away team sweep. And I would be shocked if one happens here. I also think that Milan have a puncher's chance in Madrid, though it is worth noting that no team has ever come back from a 2-0 home loss to win a Champions League knock-out tie.
   847. PepTech Posted: February 19, 2014 at 07:21 PM (#4659358)
UA, I'll be pretty surprised if all four away teams aren't favored next week. I would place a fairly heavy parley on all the home teams closing things out (as you say, Milan really being the only one that strikes me as being even close).
   848. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 20, 2014 at 07:56 AM (#4659498)
Wenger doesn't thinkns so, of course...

But I thought it was a clear red yesterday. Anyone else think that was a harsh red?
   849. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 20, 2014 at 09:36 AM (#4659533)
It was a foul and the keeper was the last man. Have to give it.
   850. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 20, 2014 at 09:48 AM (#4659546)
Yeah, it's just weird with all the complaining Pellegrini and Wenger have done and I didn't see anything the refs did wrong. One soft yellow given to City but other than that, nothing momentous.
   851. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 20, 2014 at 09:57 AM (#4659549)
Now that the appetizer of the CL is over, we can get to the main course...Europa League! Tottenham continue their bizarre Europa League campaign with a trip to a country on the brink of civil war. Kaboul, Adebayor, Lennon, Walker and Dembele didn't make the trip so I suspect something like this:

Friedel
Naughton Dawson Vertonghen Fryers
Bentaleb Capoue
Chadli Eriksen Townsend
Soldado

That should be good enough.
   852. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM (#4659582)
Barca are in some hot water

Though I don't know enough about Spanish tax law to know how hot it is.
   853. Baldrick Posted: February 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4659587)
843, according to UEFA, Bayern had 79% possession in the second half.

The BBC said that for the first 15 minutes of the second half (roughly when I posted), Bayern had 90% possession. 90%!
   854. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 20, 2014 at 10:57 AM (#4659599)
Isn't that "possession" statistic just the proportion of one team's number of passes to another team's number of passes?

60% possession means one team had 60% of the game's passes.
   855. Swedish Chef Posted: February 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4659622)
It's not standardized, possession is done with both chess clock and by passing, it depends on the provider.
   856. JuanGone..except1game Posted: February 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM (#4659630)
Yeah, it's just weird with all the complaining Pellegrini and Wenger have done and I didn't see anything the refs did wrong. One soft yellow given to City but other than that, nothing momentous.


I'm in agreement. I'd like to suggest that there complaints are somewhat valid because the Prem is more physical, blah, blah, blah, but I think both are reds if they happened this Sunday vs Everton. Pelligrini is currently making a bad habit of crapping on refs, and that might come back to bite him later on in the season.

Also, just watched that AC/Atleti match last night. Very competitive and might have been a better result for AC if Mario wasn't withdrawn and Courtouis didn't make his awonder-save. I wouldn't be suprised to see AC prevail in the second leg.
   857. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 20, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4659746)
Tottenham, were pretty terrible in that first half. The back line looks as confused as against Liverpool.
   858. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 20, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4659803)
Miroslav Stoch comes on and all I can think is how amazed I am that he is still only 24. My memories of him are largely from his appearances in the 2007-08 Chelsea season and his role in the reserves and U18s the year before. He seems to be largely the same, which is good for PAOK, because they could use some drive in their attack tonight, from someone who isn't Lino.

EDIT: heh, Stoch just ran into the referee at full steam and then sat on the ground, (ostensibly) cursing him for about three seconds before getting up. Great piece of man defending by Maxi Pereira on Lino around this point, btw. Excellent show of facing him up and timing the tackle perfectly, without leaving his feet.
   859. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:03 PM (#4659837)
Also, may I just say that I genuinely adore the Europe League/Euro Cup/etc. I love putting on some random game with teams I know a small/little/maybe a lot about in some random corner of Europe and just watch them stylistically, form opinions on the players, etc. Right now it's Sevilla-NK Maribor, entirely because I've been an Unai Emery backer since his run at Valencia and I haven't seen much of Sevilla side so far this year (though I'm, of course, decently/very familiar* with most of the players in his side**). But it's in Slovenia! Great atmosphere! Slovenian champions! The Europa League is awesome.

*Thanks, multiple FM games as Sevilla, though not in several years.
**observation: so that's where Kevin Gameiro went off to!
   860. Wins Above Paul Westerberg Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:19 PM (#4659854)
Anyone else see that the fixtures and dates for this year's "International Champions Cup" (glorified American scrimmages) were posted today? As someone who's never been to a true soccer game, I'm irrationally excited, even though this thing comes so close off the heels of the W.C. that we're bound to miss a bunch of big names. I guess I just hope the W.C. builds enthusiasm and maybe some of these sell out.
   861. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:37 PM (#4659863)
In addition, if any of those teams have to play qualification matches for Champions League or Europa League then they may have to pull out of the competition. The rumor is that the Madrid - United game is going to be in Michigan Stadium. That would be pretty awesome.
   862. ursus arctos Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:44 PM (#4659872)
It would be hilarious if Manchester United lost out on a massive US payday because they had to play Europa League qualifying matches in the Faeroes (or elsewhere).

And since I'm being churlish, it is worth noting that at most three of the participants will actually be "Champions" of their respective leagues when they arrive. None of the Italian teams have a realistic shot, and Madrid are far from a lock. And given the absence of Chelsea and Arsenal, it wouldn't be at all surprising if Olympiacos (who don't even rate bold-faced type of Fox Sports) are the only actual "champions", given that they currently 20 points clear at the top of the table.
   863. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:47 PM (#4659876)
Continuing the trend of noting ex-Chelsea (sort of) attacking wingers in Europa League games, Marko Marin just came on for Sevilla to replace the injured Denis Cheryshev. Maribor still up 1-0, deservedly.
   864. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4659883)
It would be hilarious if Manchester United lost out on a massive US payday because they had to play Europa League qualifying matches in the Faeroes (or elsewhere).


I think it'll be a stretch for United to qualify for even Europa League. Liverpool might have to miss out if they finish fourth.
   865. ursus arctos Posted: February 20, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4659889)
It's a reasonable question to ask whether qualification for the Europa League would be seen as a positive or negative for Man Utd. If they have to play qualifying matches, it strikes me as a clear negative.
   866. Swedish Chef Posted: February 20, 2014 at 05:00 PM (#4659947)
The worst English Europa League place is the League Cup one (which will likely go to the 6th PL team barring Sunderland heroics in the final), which enter in the third and last qualifying round in early August. The 5th PL team goes into the play-offs in late August and the FA cup winner goes directly to the group stage (unless both finalists are in the CL, then the 5th team gets that place).
   867. Swedish Chef Posted: February 20, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4659948)
United can easily avoid all these scenarios, they just have to win the Champions League. Piece of cake.
   868. ursus arctos Posted: February 20, 2014 at 05:04 PM (#4659951)
Which is why if I was Moyes, I'd be supporting Sunderland in the final.

Of course there are other reasons for the red half of Manchester to do just that.
   869. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 20, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4659964)
So if the FA Cup loser does not qualify for Champions League then that team goes directly to the group stage?

What if both FA Cup finalists are in Champions League - will the Premier League get an extra team, provided City win the League Cup?

Do they still give an extra slot for "fair play?"

Damn that's confusing.
   870. Swedish Chef Posted: February 20, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4659970)
So if the FA Cup loser does not qualify for Champions League then that team goes directly to the group stage?

I see I missed a thing there, if the runner-up gets the place the group stage place will go to the best PL team.

What if both FA Cup finalists are in Champions League - will the Premier League get an extra team, provided City win the League Cup?


Yes, then all three slots comes from the PL.

Do they still give an extra slot for "fair play?"

UEFA gives a couple of places for fair play, they go to the fairest teams in the fairest leagues (I think they are drawn from the eight fairest leagues or something like that).

EDIT: Nope, the FP places goes straight to the three fairest leagues (this season: Sweden, Norway and Finland, notice a trend?). Not very attractive slots though, they enter in the first qualifying round.
   871. ursus arctos Posted: February 20, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4660019)
Though those places are somewhat more attractive to Scandinavian teams that are playing league games in July.
   872. madvillain Posted: February 20, 2014 at 07:53 PM (#4660023)
It's a reasonable question to ask whether qualification for the Europa League would be seen as a positive or negative for Man Utd. If they have to play qualifying matches, it strikes me as a clear negative.


Lemme tell ya, as a now veteran FM manager, it's a clear negative! Fixture congestion is a real #####, although with Man U's budget, you'd think they could field a completely rotated 11 man side that would do quite well in Europa. The money received for Europa is a pittance anyways.

As someone who's never been to a true soccer game, I'm irrationally excited, even though this thing comes so close off the heels of the W.C. that we're bound to miss a bunch of big names. I guess I just hope the W.C. builds enthusiasm and maybe some of these sell out.


If you can get to a WC qualifier next time around do it, incredible atmosphere. I've been to a few sounder's games, a US friendly, and USMNT qualifier, the Qualifier blew even the Sounders' atmosphere away.
   873. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 20, 2014 at 08:21 PM (#4660036)
If you can get to a WC qualifier next time around do it, incredible atmosphere. I've been to a few sounder's games, a US friendly, and USMNT qualifier, the Qualifier blew even the Sounders' atmosphere away.


Watching on TV the atmosphere at Sounders games is truly impressive.
   874. PepTech Posted: February 21, 2014 at 09:10 AM (#4660142)
Watching on TV the atmosphere at Sounders games is truly impressive.
Naturally, it's better in person... as for the USMNT qualifier that was here in Seattle, which may be what madvillian was referreing to - I wasn't able to attend myself, but I know a number of people that did, and by all accounts (media, TV coverage, eyewitness reports) the atmosphere was kicked up about 2.4 notches from a typical Sounders game. One f'rinstance, a *lack* of Sounder-snot green and heavy emphasis on red/white/blue. Different chants, etc....
   875. Sean Forman Posted: February 21, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4660453)
Rooney resigned with United.

I love these pics of them signing.

Edit: I'm also terribly confused by the per week and in Euro's calculations, so I figured out a rule of 70.

70 * Weekly Euro's wages = annual usd wages.

(actually 71 with current rates)

85 * pounds sterling/wk = annual usd wages
   876. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 21, 2014 at 03:35 PM (#4660457)
Maybe a dumb question but who is the not Rooney/not Moyes person in that photo? From looking at him in that picture I wouldn't believe him if he told me 2+2=4.
   877. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 21, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4660460)
I believe that is MUFC "executive vice-chairman" Ed "Mycroft" Woodward.
   878. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 21, 2014 at 06:49 PM (#4660562)
He does look like the current incarnation of Mycroft and that picture doesn't make him look any more trustworthy.
   879. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 22, 2014 at 09:34 AM (#4660679)
Torres can't shoot straight so I guess playacting is all he has left.
   880. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: February 22, 2014 at 09:38 AM (#4660682)
Ugh. #### Chelsea.
   881. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 22, 2014 at 09:39 AM (#4660683)
That's tough for Everton, a draw would have felt like a good result.
   882. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 22, 2014 at 09:41 AM (#4660685)
Gotta take your hat off to Naismith today. He's no target man but he did his best.
   883. JuanGone..except1game Posted: February 22, 2014 at 09:50 AM (#4660688)
Naismith was quite good today, though the best player for Everton was clearly Distin who was a rock today. The passing from Chelsea was pretty much awful in the final 3rd all day, but great ball from Lampard to win it.
   884. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 22, 2014 at 09:51 AM (#4660690)
In fairness it was a great ball by Lampard. Ivanovic nearly got his head to it and that forced Howard to stay back.
   885. JuanGone..except1game Posted: February 22, 2014 at 10:05 AM (#4660693)
Wow. Dempsey's move back to Fulham has turned into an absolute disaster if he can't even make the bench at this point.
   886. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 22, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4660739)
Fellaini back for United. Still have no confidence in the team.
   887. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 22, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4660742)
I'm impressed by Chamakh's commitment to his hairstyle. He's had it for years now and I have to believe someone he loves and trusts must have told him that it's kind of gross. And still, he persists. You could say he perserveres. A man, a haircut, and an enormous belief in what he feels his right as the chattering masses rise up in revolt...
   888. madvillain Posted: February 22, 2014 at 02:21 PM (#4660766)
OK guys if I ever wake up on a weekend at the ass crack of dawn here on the west coast to watch Sunderland and jozy please virtually slap me. What an awful ####### side. They can't even park the bus properly, just awful. Feel a bit for jozy he was put in a tough spot by AZ during the window and hindsight is 20/20 but surely he could have found a better fit than Sunderland.
   889. Spivey Posted: February 22, 2014 at 02:31 PM (#4660769)
The US probably doesn't have a choice but to hope Dempsey gets his #### together, but his last several months have been really bad. He's got very strong indications of being washed up.
   890. madvillain Posted: February 22, 2014 at 02:55 PM (#4660774)
He's got very strong indications of being washed up.


Yea he's looked awful, including when I saw him with Seattle. If Mix was a little older and a little stronger or Holden was healthy (if wishes were fishes...) it wouldn't be as much of a problem, but the US currently lacks viable attacking mids imo. With Bedoya and Zusi perhaps the US can go to a wider formation. What Role does Klejstan play in Belgium? Is he a wide player at all?
   891. Swedish Chef Posted: February 23, 2014 at 09:30 AM (#4660974)
Euro 2016:

Group A: Netherlands, Czech Republic, Turkey, Latvia, Iceland, Kazakhstan

Group B: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Belgium, Israel, Wales, Cyprus, Andorrra

Group C: Spain, Ukraine, Slovakia, Belarus, FYR Macedonia, Luxembourg

Group D: Germany, Republic of Ireland, Poland, Scotland, Georgia, Gibraltar,

Group E: England, Switzerland, Slovenia, Estonia, San Marino, Lithuania

Group F: Greece, Hungary, Romania, Finland, Northern Ireland, Faroe Islands,

Group G: Russia, Sweden, Austria, Montenegro, Moldova, Liechtenstein

Group H: Italy, Croatia, Norway, Bulgaria, Azerbaijan, Malta

Group I: (France) Portugal, Denmark, Serbia, Armenia, Albania

   892. I am going to be Frank Posted: February 23, 2014 at 09:45 AM (#4660980)
This game is so open. Liverpool is a wonder going forward but wow is their defense is terrible.
   893. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 23, 2014 at 10:04 AM (#4660986)
Suarez and Gerrard show their stuff setting up Henderson. Wow what a pass by Gerrard.
   894. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: February 23, 2014 at 10:07 AM (#4660987)
Someone explain to me how Ngog is on loan from a championship side? If he's good enough to play for a EPL team it seems like Bolton could have a spot for him.
   895. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: February 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM (#4660988)
I guess I picked the wrong morning to roll over and go back to sleep, missed 6! goals.
   896. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: February 23, 2014 at 10:25 AM (#4660991)
That Liverpool game was frustrating, Swansea just kept pushing themselves back into it. The obvious need for this team is defense, they've already got enough offensive firepower to hang with almost anyone in Europe.
   897. Swedish Chef Posted: February 23, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4661010)
If he's good enough to play for a EPL team it seems like Bolton could have a spot for him.

Loans upwards are usually because the club loaning out the player can't afford his salary and haven't managed to sell him for a good price or a try-before-you-buy situation.
   898. ckash Posted: February 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM (#4661035)
Looks like bad Spurs showed up today. Yeesh.
   899. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4661048)
Ngog wasn't loaned from Bolton to Swansea, he was transferred. Not that it matters since he's at the end of his contract this summer anyway. (like Gareth Barry)

Should have sold him to Fulham last year for a mere million-pound loss.

Total of 16 goals in 91 games in his Bolton career.
   900. JuanGone..except1game Posted: February 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4661049)
Norwich keep coming close to sealing this, but just can't convert. I have a feeling that they are going to regret that one.
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