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The big question is of course how long they will have Zlatan, the WC campaign or through the next Euro campaign? Or will he hang them up right now? He could always unretire if they qualify.
Judging by what little talent is coming up, this team will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does). The single obvious addition to look forward to is John Guidetti.
Well, there's always hockey...
As long as you have Zlatan, the future isn't nearly as bleak as Ireland's future.
I can't decide if I want to watch the games today at a pub or in the comfort of home. It seems like the 4 countries involved today will create the least atmosphere of any of the groups in my neighborhood. I guess I could take the train to Astoria (Greek and Czech), Greenpoint (Polish) or Brighton Beach (Russian). Astoria might be the most fun, I guess.
No Tottenham manager news. Joe Jordan, Kevin Bond and Clive Allen given the sack but Tim Sherwood is being kept on board. The club really likes Tim Sherwood. There's a crazy rumor that Comolli is coming back in some capacity. I love the silly season!
Yeah I've got this problem too. I'll be cheering for Poland and I don't want to be a basketcase at a bar so my house might be best. Maybe I'll flip a coin.
Apparently Poland is basically going with the same lineup, which means three defensive midfielders (Dudka, Polanski, Murawski). I'd replace Murawski with Adrian Mierzejewski; he's more of an attacker and looked decent in his limited time against Russia. Smuda does not like to attack.
Damien Perquis might be out for Poland (I hope not!) and it looks like Rosicky is out for the Czechs.
There are Czech bars/restaurants, too. I'm more familiar with Greenpoint so that seems a better bet. Now I just have to decide if I want to head over and if I convince the gf to go, too, as we're supposed to be doing stuff together today.
and it looks like Rosicky is out for the Czechs.
That's a big loss for the Czechs. He's looked very good.
I watched some of the World Cup (including the US win over Algeria!) in a Czech beer garden in Astoria. It was fantastic. Most enjoyable place to watch soccer I found in NYC while I was there.
I've been there but I couldn't remember if they had tv's. I blame the beer...It's a brilliant day today so I imagine it will be packed.
The one I went to definitely did not have a bro vibe (which is about the single worst feature of a bar, in my opinion). It was a huge outdoor space, with big screen TVs set up all around, and a pretty wide-ranging crowd. Lots of families, lots of old Czech guys, a fair amount of hipsters trying to maintain their attitude of studied cool while also cheering for the soccer. Fun times.
As somebody who is quite familiar with Poland's offensive players, let me just say: This is hardly surprising.
Not that it matters since it never comes into play, but I always feel like it should be reverse order. If you were the better team, and didn't beat the lesser team outright, you don't deserve to go through...
Edited for correct scenario
(1) eliminate Team Z and compare Teams X and Y based on criteria A?
(2) eliminate Team Z and compare Teams X and Y based on criteria C?
(3) compare teams X, Y, and Z based on criteria C?
Tyton is quite clearly the only one who gives a #### out there for the Poland.
So you say, but does the rule really say you can continue to step (d) with only two teams after having one eliminated at step (c)? Read most plainly, the rule does not allow you to eliminate only one team at any step and then continue on with the remaining teams. The third (eliminated) team would have a legitimate complaint that the tie among all three teams was not actually broken, so they should be included in the next step whatever that is. Of course this seems wrong, but so does continuing on with just two teams.
Huge decision both ways. If he gives a penalty, I think he also has to give Ignashevich a red card for stopping a clear scoring chance. As is he gave Karagounis a yellow card for protest, which will keep him out of the next match if there is one.
This tiebreaker system is silly. I strongly prefer simple goal difference over the whole group as the first tiebreaker. When you're trying to pick among three teams, you have to toss out HALF of the games in the group.
And precognitive.
Russia haven't defended him well, but Samaras has also been quite good, certainly better than he's looked in the other games.
I really shouldn't look at this thread. Somehow you guys are a full minute ahead of my stream.
Bring out the magic sponges!
Such a poor effort tonight. Piszczek was manhandled like I've never seen before.
Enjoy unemployment Smuda.
Katsouranis went off on a stretcher. Got off the stretcher the second it crossed the touchline and was ready to come back on.
That #### should be a straight red. If you need the stretcher, you're not allowed back in the game for a minimum of five minutes.
It's a shame they couldn't all lose.
I also said they'd qualify comfortably for the knockout stage.
Ugh.
After their first match I thought the Russians might make some noise again in the tournament, really disappointing result.
That was in response to predictions they would make it to the semi-finals.
Well, yeah. I was right about that part!
Ha! I had the exact same reaction.
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