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OT: The Soccer Thread: June

Euro 2012 Kicks Off!

Notable Early Round Matches:

Basically anything in Group B, which features teams currently ranked second, fourth, fifth and tenth in the FIFA rankings. That’s insane. Matchdays are June 9 (Saturday), 13 (Wednesday) and 17 (Sunday—Father’s Day). Don’t miss ‘em.

 

 

RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: June 01, 2012 at 09:52 PM | 2536 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   2501. Juan V Posted: July 02, 2012 at 06:05 AM (#4171073)
Flip.

Deschamps leaves Marseille. Positioning himself for the France job, surely.
   2502. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:11 AM (#4171082)
You think the Spaniards were annoyed at being labelled dull and boring, and made an example out of Italy?
I doubt the Spanish care one way or the other. I don't think the Spanish press has been complaining about all these darned national victories, and I doubt there are that many obsessive readers of the Guardian on their roster.

I think Spivey and Baldrick have it right - Spain play (relatively?) boring games because they're too damn good for opponents to attack them normally. Italy pressed, tried to play some possession football, and attacked in numbers, and they got destroyed. I think 4-0 slightly overstates Spanish dominance, due to the unfortunate injuries to Chiellini and Motta, but Spain were definitely the better side by more than a goal's difference. The really striking thing is that Italy played basically the same tactics against Spain that they beat Germany with, and they didn't work at all. Watching this game, I don't think that Spain-Germany would have been terribly much closer.
   2503. Juan V Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:22 AM (#4171085)

I think Spivey and Baldrick have it right - Spain play (relatively?) boring games because they're too damn good for opponents to attack them normally.


Obviously we're veering into subjective territory here, but I don't buy it. Barcelona are not boring. I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with my first line there, just to be clear.
   2504. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:26 AM (#4171086)
Yeah, I don't really want to get into the aesthetic thing. Almost all of Spain's games this tournament were enjoyable to watch. I do think that Spain were more exciting to watch in possession in the final because they had more space to attack than they're usually given.

The thing that disturbed me the most about the final was my realization that Jordi Alba looks like a micro Dane Cook. I had really enjoyed rooting for the little guy up until I saw that, and then I couldn't un-see it.
   2505. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:37 AM (#4171089)
British football can be bizarre.

Why would you a blackmail a club into giving an honorary postion to someone all the supporters hate? What is the point of that?

As for Spain/Barca being boring...I don't think they are. They are capable of some dull games but so is everyone else. When they're clicking they are fascinating to watch. I wouldn't want everyone to play like that, though. Also, I thought they were only 2 games where Spain looked dominant--against Ireland and then the final. If the one Croatian player finishes off that header Modric served up for him Spain might not even make the quarterfinals. It's amazing how thin the margins are between failure and greatness at the highest level.
   2506. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:49 AM (#4171093)
Karim El Ahmadi from Feyenoord has signed for Villa. L'Equipe is reporting Arsenal are after Hugo Lloris, which is interesting. Is this one of those weird cases where the fans of a club rate their keeper more than the management does? The stupid rumor of the day has Frank Lampard linked with the LA Galaxy. British journalists don't quite have the DP thing figured out yet.
   2507. Juan V Posted: July 02, 2012 at 08:06 AM (#4171098)
I have a half-assed hypothesis: Luis Aragones was at heart a counterattacking coach, coaxed into tiki-taka by the weight of the talent at hand. Del Bosque likes possession more, and can get a bit carried away with it.
   2508. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 08:23 AM (#4171101)
Alessandro Nesta is headed to Montreal.
   2509. DA Baracus Posted: July 02, 2012 at 09:22 AM (#4171120)
Eric Wynalda named interim coach of the Atlanta Silverbacks. I loved what he did with Cal FC, but I might need to go to a game with a sign that says "STFU."
   2510. Mattbert Posted: July 02, 2012 at 09:28 AM (#4171124)
Why would you a blackmail a club into giving an honorary postion to someone all the supporters hate? What is the point of that?

Not in our club.
Not in the pub.
I do not like him,
Sam Hammam.

British journalists don't quite have the DP thing figured out yet.

Queue the Mick McCarthy GIF!
   2511. DA Baracus Posted: July 02, 2012 at 09:33 AM (#4171127)
The stupid rumor of the day has Frank Lampard linked with the LA Galaxy. British journalists don't quite have the DP thing figured out yet.


There might be a kernel of truth in there. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Robbie Keane gone soon.
   2512. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 09:43 AM (#4171130)
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Robbie Keane gone soon.

He's that bad, huh? Tired of the pointy finger already?
   2513. DA Baracus Posted: July 02, 2012 at 10:29 AM (#4171150)
Speculation on my part but they stink, he hasn't produced and would anyone be surprised if he wanted to go back to Europe?
   2514. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4171160)
peculation on my part but they stink, he hasn't produced and would anyone be surprised if he wanted to go back to Europe?

Has it ever been Keane's boyhood dream to play for The New Saints?

5 Welshmen on Team GB and that's with Gareth Bale having withdrawn due to injury. I guess the Welsh FA lost that battle.
   2515. ursus arctos Posted: July 02, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4171238)
Thiago Silva extends his contract with Milan for one season at Euro 6 million, net. PSG had reportedly offered 7.5.

Sahin reportedly refusing to act as the makeweight in the Modric to Madrid deal.

Cardiff appear to be to trying to out-douche MK Dons. The bar is very high, but it is an Olympic year.
   2516. Mattbert Posted: July 02, 2012 at 11:38 AM (#4171248)
Sahin reportedly refusing to act as the makeweight in the Modric to Madrid deal.

Can't say I blame him, but he is going to piss a lot of people off if that's the case and he really digs in his heels.

Come on, Nuri. When you have a ton of money, London isn't nearly as shitty as it could be! And English is an incredibly easy language to learn! Really!
   2517. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 02, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4171250)
5 Welshmen on Team GB and that's with Gareth Bale having withdrawn due to injury. I guess the Welsh FA lost that battle.

The backup keeper from Northern Ireland too, right?

Thus leaving Scotland alone in proudly avoiding any chance of being deemed no longer a nation. Unless a switcheroo is pulled and Scotland ends up worse off than ever as people say "Those Scots must be so much worse than the Welsh not to have a single player on Team GB. Your league is now to be merged with the IFA Premiership, except for Celtic and Rangers who will be permitted to join the Conference North".
   2518. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4171252)
Sahin reportedly refusing to act as the makeweight in the Modric to Madrid deal.


Too bad as I'd think he'd be great for Spurs and would be a star in England. I understand why he doesn't want to leave, though, and don't blame him. Supposedly Spurs are turning their attention to Oscar at Internacional pretty seriously. Supposedly, AVB spent a lot of his sabbatical scouting in Brazil and that's the guy he wants. Spurs are going to get a player that will make for easy puns in a headline. It's just in the cards. If it's not Hazard and if it's not Hulk and it's not Handanovich then it will be Oscar. WE ARE NOT FOOLING AROUND HERE!
   2519. ursus arctos Posted: July 02, 2012 at 01:37 PM (#4171396)
Deschamps has reportedly said that he's not interested in the France job, which makes one wonder what his plan is.
   2520. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 02, 2012 at 01:48 PM (#4171407)
Deschamps has reportedly said that he's not interested in the France job, which makes one wonder what his plan is.

Hang out and hope Chelsea lose 3 games in a row?
   2521. Swedish Chef Posted: July 02, 2012 at 03:04 PM (#4171467)
Karim El Ahmadi from Feyenoord has signed for Villa.

I'm definitely not overwhelmed by that signing, but the expectations are so low that it's not something to be underwhelmed by either. So I guess I'm whelmed...
   2522. ursus arctos Posted: July 02, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4171517)
Sant Iker would have been proud of this one.

Just a ridiculous save from Solo; my knees went out watching the clip.
   2523. ursus arctos Posted: July 02, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4171546)
Iker is pretty cool.

Casillas convinces ref to cut injury time short out of "respect for Italy".
   2524. Mefisto Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4171684)
That is one of the best saves I've ever seen.
   2525. DA Baracus Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4171694)
The first save was amazing. Then the ball may have gone past the line when she corralled it.
   2526. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:25 PM (#4171698)
It looked to me like the ball only popped up and possibly over the line after she'd corralled it - probably the Canadian at the goal line was kicking it while Solo had the ball. That'd be a foul, not a goal.
   2527. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 02, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4171706)
No mention of Lavezzi to PSG? Ever since Lyon lost its long run of championships there has been some "smaller" teams that have won - Bordeaux, Lille and Montpelier. I have no doubt PSG will eventually just buy their way (they finished 2nd last season) to the top, but is PSG spending all this money wisely?
   2528. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4171757)
No mention of Lavezzi to PSG?


I know some Napoli fans who are upset; does that count?

Maybe this is selling high? It's not like the club is flush with cash and 30 million euros isn't anything to sneeze at.
   2529. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: July 02, 2012 at 10:52 PM (#4171818)
I adore Lavezzi for his technical skill and the ferocity with which he (sometimes) presses when out of possession, but people who know much more than I do (ursus for one) have said that his performances are inconsistent and that he's perhaps a tad overrated. The move seemingly pushes one of Menez or Nene to the bench. Of course, now that they're in the CL, all three should still get plenty of playing time.

For Napoli, they get a nice sum of money and have Pandev, Insigne and Vargas as possible replacements.

EDIT: And how about Bradley possibly playing for Zeman? How sweet is that? My only fear would be him getting stuck behind others in a crowded midfield, but then again, the only midfielder who is definitively better than Bradley is De Rossi.
   2530. Juan V Posted: July 03, 2012 at 06:00 AM (#4171910)
Schweini-Khedira swap?

I don't like this from Madrid's point of view. With Modric coming (and Sahin set to get more minutes if that doesn't happen), I'd rather keep Sami, who's been an underrated player for Madrid IMO.
   2531. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 03, 2012 at 09:13 AM (#4171946)
Villas-Boas officially in at Spurs. A hell of a roll of the dice.

edit: Unlike at Chelsea, his top assistants will be the guys he had at Porto. It would seem as if Spurs are going to give him all the rope Chelsea wouldn't to remake Porto in England. Now, how about some players?

edit: News flying fast and furious now. Gylfi is expected to be confirmed today, as well. Looks like the club wanted AVB's appointment to be announced first.
   2532. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: July 03, 2012 at 09:17 AM (#4171948)
New thread coming soon, incidentally.
   2533. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 03, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4171970)
Getting AVB is a go-big-or-go-home kind of move. It's only with a visionary manager that a second- or third-tier payroll club can compete at the highest level in the EPL. Villas-Boas may not be that coach, and he might in fact be a total disaster, but he gives fans something to hope on. And that's fun.
   2534. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 03, 2012 at 09:59 AM (#4171972)
Getting AVB is a go-big-or-go-home kind of move. It's only with a visionary manager that a second- or third-tier payroll club can compete at the highest level in the EPL. Villas-Boas may not be that coach, and he might in fact be a total disaster, but he gives fans something to hope on. And that's fun.

I think you make a lot of sense. Daniel Levy has some pair of balls on him. The safe play would have been Moyes and I still maintain Moyes would have done a good job. But yeah, AVB is the club going for broke.
   2535. zack Posted: July 03, 2012 at 10:33 AM (#4172018)
Some people find tax evasion schemes visionary.
   2536. Mattbert Posted: July 03, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4172067)
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