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OT: The Soccer Thread June, 2014

It’s go time!

June 12th Brazil v Croatia

June 13th Mexico v Cameroon, Spain v Holland, Chile v Australia

June 14th Colombia v Greece, Ivory Coast v Japan, Uruguay v Costa Rica, England v Italy

June 15th Switzerland v Ecuador, France v Honduras, Argentina v Bosnia-Herzegovina

June 16th Iran v Nigeria, Germany v Portugal, Ghana v USA

June 17th Brazil v Mexico, Belgium v Algeria, Russia v South Korea

June 18th Cameroon v Croatia, Australia v Holland, Spain v Chile

June 19th Colombia v Ivory Coast, Japan v Greece, Uruguay v England

June 20th Italy v Costa Rica, Switzerland v France, Honduras v Ecuador

June 21st Argentina v Iran, Nigeria vs Bosnia-Herzegovina, Germany v Ghana

June 22nd USA v Portugal, Belgium v Russia, South Korea v Algeria

June 23rd Cameroon v Brazil, Croatia v Mexico, Australia v Spain, Holland v Chile

June 24th Greece v Ivory Coast, Japan v Colombia, Costa Rica v England, Italy v Uruguay

June 25th Ecuador v France, Honduras v Switzerland, Bosnia-Herzegovina v Iran, Nigeria v Argentina

June 26th Portugal v Ghana, USA v Germany, Algeria v Russia, South Korea v Belgium

June 28th Group A winner v Group B runner up, Group C winner v Group D runner up

June 29th Group B winner v Group A runner up, Group D winner v Group C runner up

June 30th Group E winner v Group F runner up, Group G winner v Group H runner up

 

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   1301. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:25 PM (#4726284)
Doesn't "close defending" imply that they have to be near a player? They're not even marking players in the box.
   1302. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:28 PM (#4726287)
I was talking about in and around the box. Seems like their discipline breaks down in and around the box.
   1303. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:29 PM (#4726289)
Yea - I figure after I typed it. Japan has no one even in the same neighborhood to Yaya physically.
   1304. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:30 PM (#4726293)
I assume kolo toure is a regular for them. Having him would seem to be a good experienced player in that role.
   1305. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:33 PM (#4726296)
The Japanese aren't much for maintaining possession.
   1306. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:37 PM (#4726299)
Neither of these teams impresses me defensively. People are getting into the box in dangerous areas easily
   1307. Baldrick Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4726302)
These horns and drums are making me go crazy. I'll take the freaking vuvuzela over them.
   1308. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4726303)
Neither of these teams impresses me defensively.

That seems like the story of the World Cup so far, really. I think pretty much every team so far has looked vulnerable defensively.
   1309. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:42 PM (#4726309)
These horns and drums are making me go crazy. I'll take the freaking vuvuzela over them.


They're growing on me. The atmosphere has been so much better than South Africa.
   1310. Baldrick Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:45 PM (#4726310)
Seriously, I am now strongly rooting against Ivory Coast purely because I cannot stand these drums. I've turned the sound off and will do so for the rest of their games, I guess.
   1311. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:48 PM (#4726315)
Seriously, I am now strongly rooting against Ivory Coast purely because I cannot stand these drums


Any of them is better than the ####### air horns that usually mar tournaments in South America ...
   1312. tshipman Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:51 PM (#4726318)
Japan has the lead, but it seems like CIV will equalize any second. They're just so much bigger in the box, sooner or later one of these balls will get in.
   1313. AuntBea Posted: June 14, 2014 at 09:53 PM (#4726321)
I don't mind the drums. I didn't much like the Vuvuzelas, but I forgot they were there after about 5 minutes anyway.
   1314. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:05 PM (#4726329)
Yeah I'm highly doubtful this ends 1-0.
   1315. ursus arctos Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM (#4726332)
Cosmos 1-0 up on NYRB in thr Cup with 20 minutes to go.
   1316. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:14 PM (#4726334)
That looked like a penalty to me
   1317. ursus arctos Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:15 PM (#4726335)
Me too.

Now 3-0 Cosmos.
   1318. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:15 PM (#4726336)
Nope, good no call
   1319. Richard Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:15 PM (#4726337)
I think that was a pen.
   1320. AuntBea Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4726339)
Wow. Live it looked like a penalty but on the replay it was very uncertain.
   1321. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4726340)
Gotta think this will be an emotional lift at least for Ivory Coast.
   1322. Richard Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM (#4726342)
Super goal
   1323. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM (#4726343)
Bring on Drogba -> Bony puts one in.
   1324. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM (#4726346)
There it is! Oh that's beautiful movement!
   1325. Richard Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM (#4726348)
And again!

Keeper should have done better
   1326. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM (#4726349)
Japan's keeper should not have been beaten at the near post off a header like that.
   1327. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM (#4726350)
WOW!!!
   1328. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4726352)
Vive Cote D'Ivoire!
   1329. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4726353)
Japan doing what I was saying ivory coast was doing earlier, too much space for players around the goal.
   1330. tshipman Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4726354)
Gotta think this will be an emotional lift at least for Ivory Coast.


At least. Great service from Drogba on the equalizer.
   1331. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:26 PM (#4726357)
So through 8 games we have two clean sheets. In South Africa we already had seven at this point.
   1332. Richard Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:27 PM (#4726358)
Even the game with fewest goals - Mexico v Cameroon - was interesting. Teams are showing attacking ambition and it's fun.
   1333. tshipman Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:28 PM (#4726359)
Zero draws so far, right? Was just commenting to my girlfriend that this seems like a real potential breakthrough for soccer in the US.
   1334. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:29 PM (#4726361)
I do sometimes wonder what Spurs 2013 campaign would have looked like if they had signed Bony, rather than Bobby Soldado ...
   1335. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4726362)
Zero draws so far, right? Was just commenting to my girlfriend that this seems like a real potential breakthrough for soccer in the US.


I think soccer as a spectator sport has legitimately arrived. The generation like me that grew up in the 70s is finally paying dividends.
   1336. AuntBea Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM (#4726367)
Now that the Ivory Cosst has scored, the game has really slowed down.
   1337. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:34 PM (#4726369)
Now that the Ivory Cosst has scored, the game has really slowed down.


Japan look spent. Not sure what they have for options but they need a lift from the bench.
   1338. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:35 PM (#4726372)
A guy like Johannson might be able to provide that for the US.
   1339. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:51 PM (#4726380)
"One last samurai thrust"? Really?
   1340. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:53 PM (#4726381)
The English announcers say stuff you never hear fromUS announcers.

Great day of soccer.
   1341. Richard Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:54 PM (#4726383)
Japan fell very flat in the last half hour.
   1342. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:55 PM (#4726385)
If Ivory Coast spend the entire 4 minutes of injury time feigning injuries, that means injury time should expand to 8 minutes, right? And then if they spend the added 4 minutes also feigning injuries, injury time could potentially become infinite. This game would have been a good chance for the referee to test this theory.
   1343. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:56 PM (#4726386)
I was watching the clock on the injuries and I thought the ref added the right amount.
   1344. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 14, 2014 at 10:56 PM (#4726388)
Seriously, I am now strongly rooting against Ivory Coast purely because I cannot stand these drums. I've turned the sound off and will do so for the rest of their games, I guess.

Are you insane? This is literally a million times better than the sound during every minute of every game of the 2010 World Cup. Good lord!
   1345. AuntBea Posted: June 14, 2014 at 11:45 PM (#4726422)
I was watching the clock on the injuries and I thought the ref added the right amount.


I wasn't watching by that point, but this is virtually never the case, feigned injury or actual. Teams do it because it works.
   1346. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:11 AM (#4726445)
I certainly wasn't watching with a stop watch but my reckoning the Ivory Coast player who was down at about 91:30 was down for about 45 seconds. It seemed longer because everyone was going crazy but it really wasn't very long. Add in a few seconds and the game ending at about 95:15 seemed correct to me.

Obviously it is inexact but I don't think the difference between what was and what should have been added was particularly substantial.

Plus I think they could've played another hour and Japan weren't getting another goal. I suspect refs put that into play too. They virtually never stop play when there is a threat but Japan hadn't come close for awhile.
   1347. Textbook Editor Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:15 AM (#4726448)

"One last samurai thrust"? Really?


Had the exact same thought, FWIW...

No draws! It's not possible to go a whole first round of fixtures without a draw, is it?

Does the lack of draws this go-around mean that teams will be forced to not just play for a draw in round 2's slate of fixtures? Thus even more attacking, etc., etc... Wonder what the record for goals per game at a WC is...
   1348. Richard Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:28 AM (#4726452)
There were 5.3 goals per game in 1954. That record will not be beaten...
   1349. Yardape Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:54 AM (#4726458)
I certainly wasn't watching with a stop watch but my reckoning the Ivory Coast player who was down at about 91:30 was down for about 45 seconds. It seemed longer because everyone was going crazy but it really wasn't very long. Add in a few seconds and the game ending at about 95:15 seemed correct to me.


Didn't another Ivory Coast player go down at about 94 minutes, though? I think there should have been at least another minute...although, as you say, I don't know that Japan was going to do anything with it.
   1350. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:55 AM (#4726459)
It is kind of weird. Out of the four chief favorites before the tournament, Spain's #1 was on the bench at Real Madrid, Argentina's #1 was on the bench at Monaco

Bring on Speroni!

What's the deal with the one pink shoe and one blue shoe? It seems like every team has exactly one player with them.
   1351. AuntBea Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:08 AM (#4726462)
Plus I think they could've played another hour and Japan weren't getting another goal.


This is why I wasn't really watching the last few minutes. Plus my Korean wife was whooping it up in the background.
   1352. Jeffo has an El Camino full of Rampage Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:09 AM (#4726493)
Really enjoyed what I've seen the first few days so far, been very exciting to watch. My liver may wish me dead once the weekend is out, but so far it's been a lot of fun. Growing more nervous as the US-Ghana game approaches though....

Noticed the pink-blue shoe thing as well. I think one of the Ivory Coast players had a yellow/orange combo too. I assume sponsorship money from shoe companies is involved?
   1353. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:30 AM (#4726495)
I heard from somewheres that the USA is hosting the next Copa America. Is that true? If so, does that mean they will be participating? Isn't Copa America COMNEBOL's tournament? Is it common for squads to participate in the cups of other confederations? Does that mean no USA in the next Gold Cup?

   1354. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4726498)
WJ, it's a special 100th anniversary Copa and yes the USA will participate. We'll still have the Gold Cup the next season and this particular Copa will have no influence on the next Confederations Cup. It's basically a glorified friendlies tournament but it will still be cool to have the SA teams here competing quasi-competitively.
   1355. Swedish Chef Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4726499)
I heard from somewheres that the USA is hosting the next Copa America. Is that true? If so, does that mean they will be participating? Isn't Copa America COMNEBOL's tournament? Is it common for squads to participate in the cups of other confederations?

Copa America has had outside participants for quite a while know. Mexico always seem to take part.
   1356. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM (#4726500)
So this:
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/6/10/5793770/10-rules-for-for-not-being-a-gross-misogynist-during-the-world-cup

Led me to this:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/06/sport/sexism-in-sport-female-journalists-abuse/

Let me to this:
http://www.thefootballramble.com/latest/entry/exclusive-andy-gray-and-richard-keys

Just ugh.

Seriously, #### those guys; they shouldn't be employable.
   1357. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:46 AM (#4726501)
Copa America has had outside participants for quite a while know. Mexico always seem to take part.

The US has been invited before but we sent a B team and the Copa organizers were not happy with that. Luckily for us the USA has become a serious soccer cash cow so we are forgiven our transgressions. I'm pretty sure Mexico plays more games here than they do in Mexico not to mention all the other weird friendlies that take place here. Greece v Ecuador? Sure, let's take that to America!
   1358. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM (#4726502)
Seriously, #### those guys; they shouldn't be employable.

Shockingly, the Qataris don't seem to mind their misogyny.
   1359. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:56 AM (#4726503)
Shockingly, the Qataris don't seem to mind their misogyny.


Sadly true, but, let's be honest here, #### those guys too ...
   1360. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM (#4726504)
I'm really looking forward to the first game. Switzerland seem to have gotten a lot of publicity as sort of a poor man's Belgium as that outside team that can do damage but I know virtually nothing about them. I want to see them play. Unfortunately I am heading out so I'll miss the second half and all of the France-Honduras game. Damned right I'll be home for Argentina-BH.
   1361. Swedish Chef Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM (#4726506)
Mourinho says Courtois is going back to Chelsea. Then he cackled madly.
   1362. Swedish Chef Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4726507)
Booooooooooooooorrrriiinng. Switzerland is as exciting as a wet sock.
   1363. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:16 PM (#4726508)
I think Shaqiri may be the "biggest" guy in the tournament I've seen so far.
   1364. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4726511)
In through the out Ecuador!!!!
   1365. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4726512)
Swiss defense could have used some Senderos! Ok, maybe not.
   1366. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4726513)
That should open the game up a bit. What a beautiful free kick, that was pinpoint and some pretty poor marking.

Is it me or has the marking on free kicks in this tournament been awful so far? It seems like that would be something to expect with teams somewhat hastily pulled together but this has been noticeable.
   1367. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4726514)
Wide open header about three feet in front of the goal. Yeah, that will be converted pretty often.
   1368. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:25 PM (#4726515)
Shocking that Djourou would screw it up. Hard to take the Swiss seriously with him in their 11.
   1369. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM (#4726516)
The marking on free kicks has definitely been terrible. A number of relatively straightforward goals like that one. I mean, there was not a single Swiss player who even TRIED to get Valencia.
   1370. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4726519)
I loathe the practice of raising your arm to try and convince the ref to call handball or offside or whatever. It has never worked once in history and REGULARLY distracts you from actually playing the freaking game.
   1371. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4726520)
I have a weird feeling about Honduras vs. France today, guys. And my weird feelings are...well...estimable.
   1372. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM (#4726521)
Oh, wow, so this will be a full on combined COMNEBOL/CONCACAF joint tournament. Cool. I always thought CONCACAF and COMNEBOL should have their champions play for the Pan-America Cup or something.
   1373. AuntBea Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4726523)
Ecuador sitting back, and taking a lot of pressure. Is this really the best strategy? Maybe Switzerland will wear themselves out.
   1374. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4726524)
It worked for Rocky agianst Clubber Lang
   1375. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4726525)
Good no-penalty call.
   1376. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4726527)
Switzerland has a black guy. I thought the Swiss had laws against that.
   1377. Langer Monk Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:04 PM (#4726530)
I'd say awful defending, but there would have to had been any defending at all.
   1378. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4726531)
More poor defending on set pieces.
   1379. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4726532)
More terrible defending on a set piece.

Edit: Cokes all around. But none for the defenders who don't deserve nice things.
   1380. AuntBea Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4726533)
Ecuador was giving up way too many corners. They look dangerous enough on the attack they should not sit back so much.
   1381. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4726534)
So when the ref marks the spot for the kick, is that just a suggestion? Because Ecuador has moved the ball off the spot a couple times now.
   1382. tshipman Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:10 PM (#4726535)
I wonder if the terrible defending on set pieces has something to do with the conditions? Like they're tired, and making poor decisions on set pieces? Not really sure how that follows, but I can't think that half the world has forgotten how to defend corner kicks.

Edit:
So when the ref marks the spot for the kick, is that just a suggestion? Because Ecuador has moved the ball off the spot a couple times now.


I think the operating principle there is #### the Swiss (which I am on board with).
   1383. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:10 PM (#4726536)
Switzerland has a black guy. I thought the Swiss had laws against that.

The Swiss team is pretty stocked with guys who are 1st or 2nd generation expats. Primarily from the Balkans, but from other parts too. Djourou for example was born in Ivory Coast (that sounds weird, is it the Ivory Coast?). He's the most notacibly black guy, but they have a bunch of others that arguably qualify at least as non-white.
   1384. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4726537)
I believe Inler is of Turkish descent.
   1385. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:14 PM (#4726538)
Most countries will bend over backwards if you can play football. Hell there is an American playing for Iran. I'd imagine even Russia would naturalize a black guy if he played like Ronaldo.
   1386. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:16 PM (#4726539)
Mehmidi doesn't sound too Swiss either. My impression of Switzerland when I lived in Freiburg was that they viewed their nation as a very large gated community.

That has to be demoralizing, running down the field at full tilt, and not having a target for a cross because only three guys ran with you.
   1387. Langer Monk Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4726540)
Mehmedi and Shaqiri are ethnic Albanians. Xhaka too.
   1388. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:21 PM (#4726542)
Shaqiri sounds like a made up name. Maybe a Brazilian who likes the NBA.
   1389. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:22 PM (#4726543)
A bunch of the Swiss players are of Albanian descent. And Inler is indeed Turkish. He played for the Turkish Under-21s and wanted to play for the full team but they never selected him. Which they now regret quite a bit.
   1390. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4726544)
Wait - Ecuador has a guy named "Michael?"
   1391. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4726547)
yikes, that was close
   1392. Langer Monk Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:28 PM (#4726548)
Yeah, he was onside.
   1393. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4726549)
Oof, Switzerland can't convert the 3v1 break.
   1394. Baldrick Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4726552)
Switzerland fail to convert a 3 on 1. It's never EASY, but that was a great opportunity wasted.
   1395. KronicFatigue Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4726553)
blowing that 3 on 1 was absurd, right?
   1396. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:36 PM (#4726555)
Nothing quite like a soccer ball to the face.
   1397. greenback calls it soccer Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:39 PM (#4726556)
That was a pretty clear violation of the whipped cream line.
   1398. AuntBea Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4726557)
Very poor call.
   1399. madvillain Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4726558)
Both these teams are boring.
   1400. AuntBea Posted: June 15, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4726559)
Why would these teams want to settler for a draw? Seems unwise.
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