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OT: The Soccer Thread June, 2014

It’s go time!

June 12th Brazil v Croatia

June 13th Mexico v Cameroon, Spain v Holland, Chile v Australia

June 14th Colombia v Greece, Ivory Coast v Japan, Uruguay v Costa Rica, England v Italy

June 15th Switzerland v Ecuador, France v Honduras, Argentina v Bosnia-Herzegovina

June 16th Iran v Nigeria, Germany v Portugal, Ghana v USA

June 17th Brazil v Mexico, Belgium v Algeria, Russia v South Korea

June 18th Cameroon v Croatia, Australia v Holland, Spain v Chile

June 19th Colombia v Ivory Coast, Japan v Greece, Uruguay v England

June 20th Italy v Costa Rica, Switzerland v France, Honduras v Ecuador

June 21st Argentina v Iran, Nigeria vs Bosnia-Herzegovina, Germany v Ghana

June 22nd USA v Portugal, Belgium v Russia, South Korea v Algeria

June 23rd Cameroon v Brazil, Croatia v Mexico, Australia v Spain, Holland v Chile

June 24th Greece v Ivory Coast, Japan v Colombia, Costa Rica v England, Italy v Uruguay

June 25th Ecuador v France, Honduras v Switzerland, Bosnia-Herzegovina v Iran, Nigeria v Argentina

June 26th Portugal v Ghana, USA v Germany, Algeria v Russia, South Korea v Belgium

June 28th Group A winner v Group B runner up, Group C winner v Group D runner up

June 29th Group B winner v Group A runner up, Group D winner v Group C runner up

June 30th Group E winner v Group F runner up, Group G winner v Group H runner up

 

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   2801. zack Posted: June 19, 2014 at 01:51 PM (#4730621)
I wouldn't be shocked by a more "true" 4-4-2 with Johansson and Dempsey up top in hopes that they can help retain a little possession.

Isn't this exactly what they played after Altidore went out?

I don't think you can play both of Johansson and Dempsey, and I'd like if they didn't play both of Beckerman and Jones.
   2802. The Marksist Posted: June 19, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4730626)
Can both these teams advance?
   2803. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 01:56 PM (#4730630)
A 1-goal loss isn't that bad for CIV. Unless things break exactly wrong for them, a draw in the last game gets them into the next round.

Edit: Colombia has virtually clinched a spot in the next round.
   2804. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 01:56 PM (#4730631)
Annoying time-wasting is annoying.

Colombia have been really fun to watch, though, other than that.
   2805. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 19, 2014 at 01:56 PM (#4730632)
Tiote is unhappy with his invisible friend.
   2806. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:00 PM (#4730633)
I wouldn't be shocked by a more "true" 4-4-2 with Johansson and Dempsey up top in hopes that they can help retain a little possession.


This was before Altidore got hurt, but they were already doing that.
   2807. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:00 PM (#4730634)
A 1-goal loss isn't that bad for CIV. Unless things break exactly wrong for them, a draw in the last game gets them into the next round.

It doesn't have to break all that exactly.

Japan just needs to win by 2 goals this evening and then get a draw against Colombia. Or win both games. Or, theoretically, Greece could win by 4 goals this evening, but that doesn't seem very likely.
   2808. ursus arctos Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4730643)
I've been reading on the history of the US Open Cup. I was unaware that it had existed so long cause I sure didn't remember NASL teams playing. Now I see that the NASL refused to participate...which IMO didn't exactly help the brand.


It was stupid, but emblematic of the very antagonistic relationship between the NASL and its teams and the semi-pro clubs that had kept the sport alive at a senior level in this country after the demise of the ASL as a serious force. Embracing the Open Cup is definitely one of the things that MLS have gotten right in my book.
   2809. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4730644)

Japan just needs to win by 2 goals this evening and then get a draw against Colombia.



Yes, this is the most likely scenario, but it is not particularly likely. Odds of a Japan draw/win against Colombia are about 45%, odds of a 2-goal or more win tonight: about 20%. That's 9% total, maybe give 1% more for the Greece by 4.

Also, if Japan wins by 2, then draws, and CIV draw, it goes to total goals scored for the tiebreaker. CIV could still win on goals scored. And, if goals scored is also even, it goes to head-to-head, where CIV has the advantage having beaten Japan.

The odds of CIV advancing are given as about 72%, which is also very close to the odds of them getting at least a draw in the final game.

CIV could still advance even with a loss against Greece, but it's quite unlikely.

   2810. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:12 PM (#4730647)
Also, if Japan wins by 2, then draws, and CIV draw, it goes to total goals scored for the tiebreaker. CIV could still win on goals scored. And, if goals scored is also even, it goes to head-to-head, where CIV has the advantage having beaten Japan.

Japan only needs one goal to match CIV in goal difference. The two goal margin puts them ahead.

Edit: I don't really disagree with the percentages you cite much, though, so perhaps it was just a disagreement about what "exactly wrong" means. Japan still has a solid chance to pull ahead of them (30ish percent), and that chance would be much much lower if they could have got an equalizer. But OTOH, Japan only has about a 30 percent chance...
   2811. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4730650)
Japan only needs one goal to match CIV in goal difference. The two goal margin puts them ahead.


Oops. True. So then if things break just right for Japan they can even advance in that scenario with a 1 goal win and a draw. Still unlikely, probably not higher than 12% or so. At the most 15%. Depending on how you interpret my "break just right", I think the point stands: A draw will very likely be enough for CIV.


Had they drawn today, a draw again would have guaranteed them a spot in the next round, but losing today only reduced their odds of advancing by a little bit. As compared to a draw though, losing severely hampered their chance to top the group.

Edit: I estimate that a draw today would have only boosted their chance of advancing in the group by less than 5%, not very much. Like I said though, it would have really helped their odds of topping the group.
   2812. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:22 PM (#4730655)
The cannibal starts for Uruguay. England is unchanged. I'm prepared for Rooney to disappoint yet again, which I guess would be him meeting expectations.
   2813. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4730667)
I think I'm rooting for Uruguay just because the English meltdown will be both spectacular and accessible.
   2814. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4730668)
The cannibal starts for Uruguay.


Oh come on man.

He's the racist cannibal. Get it right.
   2815. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:49 PM (#4730674)
He's the racist cannibal. Get it right.
I think that's unfair. He has already demonstrated his willingness to bite people of multiple races.
   2816. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4730675)
He has already demonstrated his willingness to bite people of multiple races.


Good point. Should be "the cannibal and racist."
   2817. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:54 PM (#4730677)
Oh come on man.

He's the racist cannibal. Get it right.

One thing I will say about Suarez: he helped me to understand just how thoroughly white/European Uruguay is. I vaguely knew that it was less mixed than most of the rest of Latin America, but it was only the Suarez racism that inspired me to investigate their demographics. There was virtually no Indian population there prior to colonization. And in fact, there wasn't more than 100,000 people living there until the mid 19th century, when it was flooded with Spanish and Italian immigrants.

It's like Argentina, but way more so.
   2818. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:58 PM (#4730679)
When I was in elementary school, I had to pick a country and do a report on it. I picked Uruguay because it was the only country I could think of with three "U"s in its name.

Yes, I was a weird kid.

I'd be rooting against England anyway, but all those Us led to that report, which led to me rooting for Uruguay today.
   2819. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 19, 2014 at 02:59 PM (#4730681)
FIFA is going to investigate Mexico's homophobic chants

Investigate hard FIFA. Leave no stone unturned, no back alley unexplored. Put all your top men on it...all your top men.

   2820. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:00 PM (#4730683)
When I was in elementary school, I had to pick a country and do a report on it. I picked Uruguay because it was the only country I could think of with three "U"s in its name.

I chose Iceland because I imagined it was literally made of ice.
   2821. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:02 PM (#4730687)
I did Indonesia because I got it confused with Israel.
   2822. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4730690)
Hart looks a bag of nerves.
   2823. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4730691)
Uruguay look better so far.
   2824. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4730692)
FIFA is going to investigate Mexico's homophobic chants

Investigate hard FIFA. Leave no stone unturned, no back alley unexplored. Put all your top men on it...all your top men.
Yeah, I think the investigatory committee for this one consists of an intern who knows how to use google.
   2825. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4730693)
Investigate hard FIFA. Leave no stone unturned, no back alley unexplored. Put all your top men on it...all your top men.


So that would involve what exactly? Turning up the sound while watching a Mexico game on TV? It's not like it's quiet.

Obviously both teams want the win but presumably a draw favors England here right? Assuming Costa Rica lose to Italy that gives them a chance to do a "win and in" against Costa Rica while Uruguay play Italy right? Even if Uruguay beat Italy they would need to make up some goal difference ground that might be difficult.

Neither goalie has looked sharp.
   2826. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4730696)
Rooney watch. So far:
- Bad touch, falls luckily to another England player
- Poor pass, leads to losing possession in the midfield
- Falls over in the box and fails to get close to a cross

Edit: pass completed!
Edit (2): okay, that was some good movement on the play with the handball. Good job, Wayne!
Edit (3): and a pretty good free kick. What is happening to the world?
   2827. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4730697)
Yes, I was a weird kid.


That's a completely normal way of thinking.
   2828. Swedish Chef Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4730699)
Nice save from Godin.
   2829. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4730701)
Nice save from Godin.
Suarez has taught them well.
   2830. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4730702)
Neither goalie has looked sharp.


When was the last time England had a decent keeper?
   2831. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4730703)
Nice save from Godin.

Could argue that was denying a goalscoring opportunity...
   2832. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4730705)
Yes that was a yellow and a half by Godin.
   2833. Swedish Chef Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4730706)
When was the last time England had a decent keeper?

Peter Shilton was a top keeper.
   2834. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:14 PM (#4730708)
When was the last time England had a decent keeper?


I thought Robert Green was fantastic in 2010.
   2835. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4730712)
Close one, Rodriguez really should have got that on target.
   2836. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4730713)
When was the last time England had a decent keeper?


Obligatory David Seaman photo.
   2837. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:18 PM (#4730714)
Jesus Christ, Rooney is awful right now.
   2838. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:18 PM (#4730717)
They really should have played Wayne Rooney instead of Ed Rooney.
   2839. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4730720)
   2840. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4730722)
Jesus Christ, Rooney is awful right now.

Rooney Watch:
12:45 – draws a foul
15:25 – exerts a tiny bit of defensive pressure
16:20 – has the ball at the top of the box. Almost loses control. Side-pass
17:20 – falls over in the box on a corner. Nowhere near the ball
17:40 – cross from the right. Decent pace, deflected, lose possession
   2841. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4730723)
Rooney Watch:
12:45 – draws a foul
15:25 – exerts a tiny bit of defensive pressure
16:20 – has the ball at the top of the box. Almost loses control. Side-pass
17:20 – falls over in the box on a corner. Nowhere near the ball
17:40 – cross from the right. Decent pace, deflected, lose possession


You are missing his very good free kick.
   2842. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4730725)
   2843. The Marksist Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4730726)
England in general seem really eager to take defenders on. I don't watch them enough to know: is this typical?
   2844. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:24 PM (#4730727)
You are missing his very good free kick.

See 2826
   2845. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4730728)
Good catch by Hart
   2846. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4730730)
England with too many giveaways, Uruguay with too many long balls.
   2847. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4730731)
England could be Steven Gerrard and 10 random dudes off the streets of Birmingham and their quality of play wouldn't suffer that much.
   2848. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4730733)
And yet again England don't pick up the man on the set piece...
   2849. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:28 PM (#4730735)
Genius. Absolutely genius. God this team is depressing.
   2850. zack Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4730737)
Obligatory David Seaman photo.

Does Umbro still exist? Do they have have any big clubs' shirts? I remember when Umbro shorts were the #### in middle school.
   2851. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4730738)
Godin at about 1.99 yellow cards right now.
   2852. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4730739)
Godin is extremely lucky. I think he should be out of the game now.
   2853. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4730740)
Nike bought Umbro and rebranded all their stuff as "Nike Soccer".
   2854. zack Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4730741)
It'd be really interesting to see how fantastically the rate of yellows drops against players already on a yellow.
   2855. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4730742)
That is a truly spectacular bit of cowardice from the referee. The player deserved the yellow card and the fact that he's already on a yellow doesn't mean you choke on it. That's terrible. For everyone who ####### about the Japanese ref as a "non-UEFA ref" (Rodney Marsh I'm looking at you) that's just awful right there.
   2856. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4730743)
I think the next thing he does he will be sent off. The ref knows it was him.
   2857. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4730744)
Does Umbro still exist? Do they have have any big clubs' shirts? I remember when Umbro shorts were the #### in middle school.


Yes. No (but yes starting next year). Yes.
   2858. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4730745)
Ooh, unlucky
   2859. madvillain Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4730746)
So, I think it's safe to say there is some sort of negative energy when you assemble the English national team. Even with the new blood, that should have none of the mental hangups, the team under performs.

Uruguay really isn't that good this cycle and England can't get out of their own way.

edit: classic mv jinx -- but Rooney's demons continue.
   2860. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4730747)
Godin is extremely lucky. I think he should be out of the game now.
Yeah, the first one was yellow+ and that one was a solid yellow.
   2861. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4730748)
If it were a borderline yellow, I wouldn't be as bothered by the non-call there, but that was an extremely cynical foul by Godin.

edit: and how the hell did that not go in?
   2862. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:32 PM (#4730750)
That is a truly spectacular bit of cowardice from the referee.


Completely agree, especially because neither foul would have been a cheap yellow.
   2863. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:33 PM (#4730752)
You could even see the ref looking to see who the player was as he ran over. Any other defender would have gotten the yellow. Godin's too slow to be on a tightrope this early though, I'd say his odds of getting sent off are well above 50%.
   2864. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:35 PM (#4730753)
2 free kicks in a row where England did nothing wrong
   2865. ursus arctos Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4730755)
List of Umbro teams.

Everton will probably be the "biggest" as of the upcoming season. Getting bought by Nike really killed them as an independent force, and it will take time to re-establish themselves now that they are no longer under Beaverton's thumb. They also make the Cosmos' kits, FWIW.
   2866. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4730756)
What was that, Sturridge?
   2867. Swedish Chef Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4730758)
edit: and how the hell did that not go in?

Because the stars have decided that Rooney's narrative in Brazil will be either a tragedy or a farce, not something heroic.
   2868. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4730759)
A tad speculative there from Sturridge.
   2869. zack Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:37 PM (#4730760)
What was that, Sturridge?

Hilarious?
   2870. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:38 PM (#4730761)
You could even see the ref looking to see who the player was as he ran over. Any other defender would have gotten the yellow. Godin's too slow to be on a tightrope this early though, I'd say his odds of getting sent off are well above 50%.

Yeah, I would sub him at half time.
   2871. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:38 PM (#4730762)
England has been in control the last 10 minutes.

Edit: and then... against the run of play.
   2872. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:38 PM (#4730763)
Pretty ball, great header.
   2873. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:38 PM (#4730764)
Well, that was truly pathetic from England there.
   2874. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4730765)
Ugh. Of course the cannibal racist scores.
   2875. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4730766)
Great move, clownshoes from England
   2876. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4730767)
Rooney Watch:
21:40 – currently the closest English player to the backline for no particular reason. Because he’s Wayne Rooney and no one is going to tell him where to play!
24:00 – a bit of pressing to try and win back possession. Not too much though. Need to conserve his energy
25:30 – gives away possession at the halfway line
27:10 – in a good position in the box, if Welbeck could have gotten the ball to him
28:15 – really nice flick to Sturridge, who is taken out by Godin, who should have been sent off
31:55 – almost scores! Header off the bar. Really nice job to get in position...couldn’t control it to actually put it in the net.
33:45– completed pass in the midfield
35:30 – wins a free kick at the halfway line
37:30 - completed pass to Johnson on the right
   2877. The Marksist Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4730768)
7 defenders in there?

edit: OK, 6
   2878. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:40 PM (#4730770)
More crappy marking from the England centre backs. They are not quite good enough
   2879. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:40 PM (#4730771)
Well, anytime you can get a 2 on 6 attack, you assume you're going to score...
   2880. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:40 PM (#4730773)
Put a great through ball on the Rooney watch there.
   2881. zack Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4730774)
More crappy marking from the England centre backs. They are not quite good enough

Not that it was good or anything, but it was pretty impressive how Suarez managed to sag so long and then turn it on and be in alone in a flash as soon as the CB turned.
   2882. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4730777)
Oh Suarez did well, but Jagielka and Cahill have left Suarez and Balotelli on their own to score in successive games, and that's going to knock England out
   2883. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:45 PM (#4730779)
England has possession all the time, but they just don't seem to have any ideas at all.
   2884. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4730792)
Final Rooney Watch:
40:00 – Nice possession and lovely pass to Sturridge who gets a good shot away
41:00 – wins a corner
41:15 – bad corner, comes back to him, better cross
44:10 – fails to collect a ball that bounces to him, manages to recover, completes a pass

On the whole, he did pretty well. He's still not very involved - not many touches at all and very few completed passes. But he was crucial to most of their plausible scoring chances. He made the run that won them that early free kick, which he then almost converted, he made several runs that would have put him in a very good position to score if they could have gotten him the ball, he made the flick that ought to have gotten Godin sent off, and he hit the bar.
   2885. jmurph Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4730793)
So, I think it's safe to say there is some sort of negative energy when you assemble the English national team. Even with the new blood, that should have none of the mental hangups, the team under performs.


In a vacuum, going out in the group stage would be under-performing. But going out in this specific group with Italy and Uruguay would not really be under-performing, I don't think.
   2886. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 19, 2014 at 03:57 PM (#4730802)
In a vacuum, going out in the group stage would be under-performing. But going out in this specific group with Italy and Uruguay would not really be under-performing, I don't think.

I think you could argue they played Italy about even, and have been slightly better than Uruguay so far. Depends if you are inclined to attribute their lack of points to bad luck or underperforming I guess...
   2887. madvillain Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4730816)
Does England have to go all out for a win here?
   2888. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4730817)
This group is well set to have a team go through on 3 points. Uruguay winning this game then losing to Italy while Italy and England both beat Costa Rica would result in three team with three points apiece. In fact I would argue of all the combinations of results that looks like the one most likely.
   2889. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:05 PM (#4730820)
England have to go all out for a goal...
   2890. jmurph Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:05 PM (#4730821)
I think you could argue they played Italy about even, and have been slightly better than Uruguay so far. Depends if you are inclined to attribute their lack of points to bad luck or underperforming I guess...


I'n not actually watching now, so I can't speak to that. I'm just saying that they're not clearly better than either team, so this wouldn't be a wild upset. At best I'd call it mild under-performance if they crash out of this group.
   2891. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:06 PM (#4730822)
Their marking is shocking
   2892. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:06 PM (#4730823)
England doesn't need to win. If they draw, they almost certainly will still have their fate entirely in their own hands. But...they really ought to try and win.
   2893. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:06 PM (#4730824)
Try though he might, Steven Gerrard is not going to be able to win this game all by himself.
   2894. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:06 PM (#4730825)
Suarez already wasting time.
   2895. jmurph Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:07 PM (#4730826)
while Italy and England both beat Costa Rica


Don't forget how good Costa Rica looked in their opener. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to take at least a point from England or Italy.
   2896. Baldrick Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4730828)
Well, I thought England were better in the first half. That has all been overwhelmed. They could have conceded a couple already here.
   2897. Richard Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4730829)
Wow, he should have buried that
   2898. AuntBea Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4730830)
What a terrible stretch of play for England.
   2899. DA Baracus Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:09 PM (#4730831)
Damn what a gear change by Cavani.
   2900. I am going to be Frank Posted: June 19, 2014 at 04:09 PM (#4730832)
Was that Suarez Gerrard was trying whacking at? Big miss for Cavani.
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NewsblogOT: Politics, September, 2014: ESPN honors Daily Worker sports editor Lester Rodney
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