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Friday, March 01, 2013

OT: The Soccer Thread, March 2013

Update your bookmarks, it’s the soccer thread.

Football hipster word of the month: Catenaccio
THTF news: Two months of fixture hell begin in which Spursin’ it up becomes all too possible
Shooty news: He’s decided to follow Real Zaragoza, because that’s totally not a hipster choice
Hamburglar / French Freiburg news: I still find both puns funny.  Monthly updates to follow
News news: I am now done with the bit.

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   401. ursus arctos Posted: March 15, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4389032)
Flip.

If it is Juve-Dortmund, BVB have to break out a special highlighter yellow retro tribute kit.
   402. frannyzoo Posted: March 15, 2013 at 05:17 PM (#4389074)
Oh, did someone bring up the '97 Final? Lo-fi is the best fi.

Edit: Btw, Zwolle, the most enjoyable town I rode through this past Summer, with a big win at home to Roda this evening. Still plenty of games and a tight bunch at the bottom of the Dutch first division.
   403. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 15, 2013 at 05:46 PM (#4389087)
Oh, did someone bring up the '97 Final? Lo-fi is the best fi.

I prefer the real life version.
   404. frannyzoo Posted: March 15, 2013 at 06:25 PM (#4389110)
Has there ever been a worse Juve kit? Love the "C" on Dortmund..one of their best kits in a George Halas sort of vein.

Meanwhile in the "pointless results that won't really change anything" Depo is finally starting to throttle Celta in the Galiththththian Derby. I have money on Depo this year, and it's money I've already put in the "sunk cost" department.
   405. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 15, 2013 at 06:32 PM (#4389118)
Has there ever been a worse Juve kit? Love the "C" on Dortmund..one of their best kits in a George Halas sort of vein.

The C is for Continental. They make bike tires, in case you were wondering.
   406. frannyzoo Posted: March 15, 2013 at 06:39 PM (#4389125)
FPH: I knew that, and I have Contis on my roadie. Between Conti and Schwalbe, I've done much for the German economy over the years. Ultra-gatorskins are the best 700x23c you can get here in goathead New Mexico.

As for me, I very much like the delayed Semi draw (as opposed to drawing simultaneously). I just want somebody to knock Real out before it comes down to Barca. El Clasico has just about jumped the shark.
   407. Swedish Chef Posted: March 16, 2013 at 07:33 AM (#4389375)
FIFA is talking about moving the 2022 WC to the winter. A far simpler solution would be to move it to England.
   408. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 16, 2013 at 08:29 AM (#4389377)
But the World Cup can't be awarded to a place that already has appropriate facilities! The entire point is to involve as much building of stadiums as possible.

England is not an option. Possibly you mean Ireland?
   409. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: March 16, 2013 at 09:43 AM (#4389388)
FIFA is talking about moving the 2022 WC to the winter. A far simpler solution would be to move it to England.
But I don't understand, if you need to move the World Cup because of the weather in the summer, how can they host the possibly imaginary Super Duper Club World Wonder Cup during that time?
   410. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4389414)
Sahin! Beautiful free kick to set up a goal, followed by a goal. Lewandowski's pretty good too.
   411. I am going to be Frank Posted: March 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM (#4389429)
Some bad calls in the Everton-Man City game. Everton get a goal called offsides but was on (it was a tough call but still). Handball gets called on Fellaini and he's well in the box but ref for some reason puts him a yard outside. Everton did outplay City pretty clearly. At any rate, United have a chance to go 15 points clear with what should be a gimme game against Reading.
   412. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 16, 2013 at 12:32 PM (#4389441)
Depending on how things shake out City could end the day closer to 8th than 1st (though in no real danger of reaching either spot).
   413. Swedish Chef Posted: March 16, 2013 at 01:50 PM (#4389467)
The relegation fight in the Championship looks promising for drama. Twelve teams within six points.
   414. Swedish Chef Posted: March 16, 2013 at 01:51 PM (#4389468)
Wayne Rooney: not dead yet.
   415. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: March 16, 2013 at 04:08 PM (#4389545)
In fairness, his goal took a wicked deflection. I'm not sure how much credit he should get for it.
   416. Swedish Chef Posted: March 16, 2013 at 04:11 PM (#4389546)
In fairness, his goal took a wicked deflection. I'm not sure how much credit he should get for it.

I'm not sure exactly how I could make my praise fainter than that, though.
   417. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 16, 2013 at 04:19 PM (#4389550)
IFA is talking about moving the 2022 WC to the winter. A far simpler solution would be to move it to England.


Hey, the USA was the place that got dicked out of the 2022 WC. England got screwed out of the 2018 one. So clearly they should move it to the US.
   418. Textbook Editor Posted: March 17, 2013 at 11:34 AM (#4389829)
So I can't see the game and can't find a mbm to follow but it seems Spurs are playing 5 at the back from the team sheet I saw; is that right or is Vertongen being used as a midfielder?
   419. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: March 17, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4389928)
PANIC PANIC PANIC
   420. Textbook Editor Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4389975)
Considering the teams right behind have a game in hand, I think panic is reasonable.
   421. frannyzoo Posted: March 17, 2013 at 03:52 PM (#4389992)
Snow football sighting: For those who find snow football best, they might play in a pretty good storm in Torino (hard to tell as my Russian is poor, i.e., nonexistent). Fun stuff..and yes, the teams are walking out into the mess.

Btw: The Samp/Inter game has been postponed by "rain" while this Torino/Lazio game is being played. This rather illogical decision-making process is better known as "we feel really, REALLY sorry for Inter having played so well and "lost" v. Spurs this week." Italy is refreshingly transparent in its bullsh*t.
   422. Swedish Chef Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:14 PM (#4390005)
What's wrong with Adebayor?
   423. frannyzoo Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:15 PM (#4390008)
To borrow from Ron Burgundy, Lazio's choice of white kit today was a bad choice.
   424. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:25 PM (#4390016)
Been in Lisbon for the past week: Sporting fans are great. Watching Malaga beat Porto with a group of Sporting fans was one of my more incredible hate-watching experiences and then Sporting-Setubal yesterday was excellent, given that Sporting seem to have a chronic inability to finish their chances at all (despite basically dominating the attacks, they seemed woefully unable to finish anything. What's happened to Ricky van Wolfswinkel?),
   425. Swedish Chef Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:33 PM (#4390019)
despite basically dominating the attacks, they seemed woefully unable to finish anything.

Sounds like the game was a typical sample of Portuguese football then.
   426. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: March 17, 2013 at 04:44 PM (#4390028)
Sounds like the game was a typical sample of Portuguese football then.

Heh. I actually meant in comparison with Vitoria Setubal, who weren't particularly good at finishing, but had a number of dangerous, on-target attacks, as opposed to a vast number of very dangerous, off-target attack.
   427. Spivey Posted: March 17, 2013 at 06:02 PM (#4390077)
Berbatov!!!
   428. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 18, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4390593)
Roster for Costa Rica. Injuries and general crapitude make the backline pretty unimpressive. Seems like the consensus is that Edu and/or Beasley will start at the back;

GOALKEEPERS- Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando, Sean Johnson.

DEFENDERS- Geoff Cameron, Omar Gonzalez, Tony Beltran, Justin Morrow, Clarence Goodson, Matt Besler.

MIDFIELDERS- Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Maurice Edu, Graham Zusi, Brek Shea, Joe Corona, Sacha Kljestan, DaMarcus Beasley, Kyle Beckerman.

FORWARDS- Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Eddie Johnson, Terrence Boyd.
   429. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: March 18, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4390596)
Yikes. Spurs lose two in a row and the thread dies.

USA roster for the coming qualifiers. Back-line is going to feature at least three new faces (including Guzan). The game at the Azteca should be a blast.

On a brighter note, here's video of an audacious yet brilliant back-heel from Totti this weekend.
   430. puck Posted: March 18, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4390597)
Was just about to post that, I was surprised there weren't comments already. "Interesting" roster. The US Soccer page also has this explanation:

The U.S. team has been hit with a rash of injuries as eight players are unavailable for the matches. Edgar Castillo (facial fractures), Timmy Chandler (hamstring), Steve Cherundolo (knee), Tim Howard (back), Fabian Johnson (hip), Jonathan Spector (ankle), Jose Torres (hamstring) and Danny Williams (illness).


I am psyched for the Costa Rica game, I have great seats for it. The USWNT friendly drew a lively, packed house, this one will be crazy by comparison.
   431. Rennie's Tenet Posted: March 18, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4390654)
Don't know if it's been discussed here, but on Saturday Verizon FIOS tweeted:

"The best soccer in the world, in HD. Details this week."

Speculation is they're adding beIN, maybe very soon.
   432. Mefisto Posted: March 18, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4390660)
Yikes. Spurs lose two in a row and the thread dies.


Yeah, I was too embarrassed to cheer for Fulham. Is it ok with everyone if we just talk about Everton this week?
   433. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 18, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4390738)
I'm not big on Klinsmann's reliance on MLSers but with the injury problems at this time I guess it's defensible. I'd rather see, say, Josh Gatt playing instead of Zusi but whatever.

I wonder what they'll do with the back four. I think Morrow's the only one who can play LB. Cameron should probably start at RB, but a CB combo of Goodson and Gonzalez kinda frightens me.

EDIT: Beasley at LB would be kind of awesome. I hope that happens.
   434. Mefisto Posted: March 18, 2013 at 07:19 PM (#4390752)
I saw Beasley play LB once before and he was ... not good. That back line could be scary bad. I hope Guzan brings his AV gloves to the game. At least he's used to facing a lot of SoT.
   435. puck Posted: March 18, 2013 at 08:09 PM (#4390778)
I'm not big on Klinsmann's reliance on MLSers but with the injury problems at this time I guess it's defensible.

Is Eric Lichaj completely useless? He never gets called.
   436. zack Posted: March 19, 2013 at 09:21 AM (#4391047)
It's because the team scouts keep looking for this Lehigh kid but the only Eric on Villa is that Lickhadge kid.
   437. Rennie's Tenet Posted: March 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM (#4391172)
beIN has announced that it's going to be on Verizon's English and Spanish lineups:

beIN FIOS

Launching immediately in a few markets, system-wide by mid-April.
   438. puck Posted: March 19, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4391613)
Long criticial article on Klinsmann with a lot of (mostly anonymous) player quotations:

Friendly fire: U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann’s methods, leadership, acumen in question
   439. The Buddy Biancalana Hit Counter Posted: March 19, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4391643)
I'm not especially impressed by Klinsmann's tenure but I must acknowledge that, in 2013, whether Carlos Bocanegra should be an automatic pick in central defense or not is a legitimate question puts the challenge of managing the USMNT in perspective for me.

Not that a lack of talent available at all absolves Klinsmann of plausible criticism about his manner of easing Bocanegra out of the squad or the integration of the German players in the squad.
   440. ursus arctos Posted: March 19, 2013 at 04:59 PM (#4391747)
In response to 404, here are three nominations for worse Juve kits:

1) the pink herringbone;

2) the jagged green and red stripe; and

3) the fuchsia with the massive black star.

Even the one they won the Champions League in was worse that the one they wore against Dortmund in my book.
   441. Flynn Posted: March 19, 2013 at 05:13 PM (#4391761)
My favorite thing about the kit they beat Ajax, undeservedly, on penalties in was that they were just starting to integrate their badge onto their shirt, practically the last club of any consequence in Europe to do so. But the idea of putting the Juve badge on a shirt needed some time to sink in...so nuzzled it under the collar where hardly anybody would notice it was there. The year after it was on a sleeve. It took until 1999 for it to finally appear on the breast like it's supposed to.
   442. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 19, 2013 at 05:22 PM (#4391774)
the pink herringbone;

Zounds! Why are Juventus wearing Palermo kits?
   443. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 19, 2013 at 05:29 PM (#4391781)
beIN has announced that it's going to be on Verizon's English and Spanish lineups:


That is wonderful news!

   444. ursus arctos Posted: March 19, 2013 at 05:57 PM (#4391814)
Juve wore pink before they adopted Notts County's kit, thus the hommage.

Flynn, part of their reticence at making room for the badge was that they believed that "always" needed to make sure that there was room on the kit for the scudetto. Italian clubs who win the double frequently struggle with how to make sure their badge, their kit manufacturer's logo, the scudetoo and the tricolor bullseye (for Coppa Italia winners) should all fit; at least one of them can be relegated to a sleeve.
   445. JuanGone..except1game Posted: March 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM (#4392505)
I'm not saying that Leeds fans don't deserve it, but their extension of misery continues. I have a dark sense of humor and the best combination of awful and funny that I've seen this year was their response to taunting about Jimmy Savile during the FA cup. They are a horrible, miserable but funny lot
   446. Textbook Editor Posted: March 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4393227)
Dempsey, eh? Interesting.
   447. puck Posted: March 20, 2013 at 11:40 PM (#4393272)
You forgot to preface that with SPURS THINK FACTORY!
   448. J. Sosa Posted: March 21, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4393412)
Looks like Norwich has signed van Wolfswinkel. I'm looking forward to this summer, I am curious to see how the tv deal might impact the PL. I think there might be a mass exodus to the PL, especially from the Iberian leagues and Ligue 1. It was amazing to me last year that a Welsh club was getting players from some of the bigger La Liga clubs. The hand wringing in the press and by Wenger has been vastly overdone. I think there is a real chance that the PL might continue to be dominant going forward by default. People can and do criticize the English style of play, but lets face it if other leagues are up against a 75 percent tax rate or can't pay wages the PL is going to benefit, especially with the new money.
   449. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 21, 2013 at 09:56 AM (#4393419)
Spent some time yesterday thinking about the WCQ tomorrow night with Costa Rica. I feel like this is the worst possible time to have Tim Howard out. It's not that Guzan is that big a drop from Howard but it seems to me that one of Howard's strenghts is his ability to take charge of the backline and organize them while I'm not sure Guzan has that skill. While Guzan has been around awhile he's relatively light on actual game experience, he's been a long time backup.

With the very weak and inexperienced collection of fullbacks the US will roll out for these matches it seems that having Howard as a steadying force would be more valuable than it usually is.
   450. ursus arctos Posted: March 21, 2013 at 02:51 PM (#4393701)
   451. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 21, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4393764)
Spent some time yesterday thinking about the WCQ tomorrow night with Costa Rica. I feel like this is the worst possible time to have Tim Howard out. It's not that Guzan is that big a drop from Howard but it seems to me that one of Howard's strenghts is his ability to take charge of the backline and organize them while I'm not sure Guzan has that skill. While Guzan has been around awhile he's relatively light on actual game experience, he's been a long time backup.


I think Guzan should be fine. He's had to deal with a pretty crappy Aston Villa defense this season, if nothing else.

Finally got around to reading that Klinsmann article. I wish the author wrote more about the tactical problems because the "OMG Germans are taking over the American team" stuff is just silly. I am not a fan of Jermaine Jones as a player or his personality, but he's currently the US' best defensive midfielder. Fabian Johnson is the team's best LB. Danny Williams has his uses.

As for Klinsmann's tactics, it has to be hard to implement a strict tactical system, with players in clearly-defined positions, considering the current amount of turnover with American players.
   452. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: March 21, 2013 at 05:44 PM (#4393838)
Somewhat related to Sosa's thoughts in 448 -- Spanish clubs' back-taxes becoming a hot-button issue. I don't have the quote handily available, but I remember being floored by a Swiss Ramble piece in seeing just how lenient the local municipalities were with club debts.
   453. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM (#4394183)
Nice game to start off the day of qualifiers.
   454. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM (#4394187)
I think Guzan should be fine. He's had to deal with a pretty crappy Aston Villa defense this season, if nothing else.


And currently they have allowed more goals than every team but QPR (who have allowed one more). From what I've seen Guzan does a pretty good job on shotstopping and dealing with crosses but AV gives up a LOT of chances. Now some of that is likely a function of Aston Villa being comprised of not very good players but I worry about Guzan's organizational skills.
   455. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:03 AM (#4394198)
Money quote from [452]


Other European soccer clubs are also crying foul. "This beggars belief. We pay hundreds of millions of euros to keep Spain out of the #### and then they let the clubs off their debts," Uli Hoeness, the president of the German side Bayern Munich, complained when debt figures were made public last year.
   456. Grunthos Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:55 PM (#4394382)
but I worry about Guzan's organizational skills

I don't think this is a problem with Guzan... he's quite vocal, and the frequent, horrific gaffes committed by Villa defenders this season have not generally involved miscommunications with the goalie. Villa have conceded a *lot* of chances that can be primarily ascribed to A) bad midfield play, B) youth and inexperience on the defensive line, and/or C) poor coverage of rebounds after Guzan makes yet another great save. The latter point suggests that Brad needs to work on helping to organize the guys on the backside of the play, if you're looking for something to be concerned about.
   457. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 01:56 PM (#4394383)
The gametime forecast in Commerce City predicts a 90 percent chance of snow showers, with as much as four inches of accumulation by the end of the night, adding yet another wrinkle to this intriguing affair
   458. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:18 PM (#4394405)
The gametime forecast in Commerce City predicts a 90 percent chance of snow showers, with as much as four inches of accumulation by the end of the night, adding yet another wrinkle to this intriguing affair


Is this good or bad? This seems like it would mute the effect of the crowd and help the Costa Ricans.

Who makes the call on whether a game would be abandoned? I realize soccer gets played in some pretty crazy conditions but 4 inches of snow in 2 hours is a LOT. I can't imagine how you could play in that and presumably the ground would be frozen as well.
   459. Swedish Chef Posted: March 22, 2013 at 02:42 PM (#4394437)
This seems like it would mute the effect of the crowd and help the Costa Ricans.

On the other hand they're a subtropical team.
   460. Swedish Chef Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:03 PM (#4394465)
Money quote from [452]

Except that Bayern's brass is always ######## about something and they always do it in a stereotypically arrogant and entitled manner, like here. Hell, my sympathy for Spanish clubs (except Gog and Magog) increased tenfold just from reading that.
   461. vortex of dissipation Posted: March 22, 2013 at 03:07 PM (#4394470)
England line-up vs San Marino:

England: 1 Joe Hart, 2 Kyle Walker, 3 Leighton Baines, 4 Tom Cleverley, 5 Joleon Lescott, 6 Chris Smalling, 7 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, 8 Frank Lampard (c), 9 Jermain Defoe, 10 Wayne Rooney, 11 Ashley Young.

Substitutes: 12 Scott Parker, 13 Ben Foster, 14 Ashley Cole, 15 Steven Taylor, 16 Steven Caulker, 17 James Milner, 18 Steven Gerrard, 19 Michael Carrick, 20 Leon Osman, 21 Daniel Welbeck, 22 Daniel Sturridge, 23 Fraser Forster.
   462. Swedish Chef Posted: March 22, 2013 at 04:39 PM (#4394538)
West Ham pens a pretty sweet deal for the Olympic Stadium. Their chairman still rages a bit in the article.
   463. Swedish Chef Posted: March 22, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4394590)
Spain - Finland 1 - 1 FT
   464. PepTech Posted: March 22, 2013 at 05:43 PM (#4394593)
Spain - Finland 1 - 1 FT

82% - 18% possession, 29 - 5 on shots, per ESPN. Anyone watch? Did Finland play a 6-3-1 or something?
   465. user Posted: March 22, 2013 at 06:24 PM (#4394608)
Looks more like 5-5-0.

http://twitter.yfrog.com/nvns8xvj
   466. Textbook Editor Posted: March 22, 2013 at 06:58 PM (#4394624)
Trappatoni eeks out the nil-nil... Now all they need is to beat Sweden at home, draw Germany away and pound the minnows! Brazil here we come!
   467. Swedish Chef Posted: March 22, 2013 at 08:05 PM (#4394648)
Saying "eeks out" there gives the impression that Sweden was a threat, which is rather flattering to them.
   468. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:38 PM (#4394686)
USA lineup: Guzan; Cameron, González, Goodson, Beasley; Jones, Bradley; Zusi, Dempsey, Gomez; Altidore. Says Grant Wahl.

Although I guess there's still talk of postponing the game.
   469. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4394690)
Wow ... this game is going to be madness ...
   470. Mefisto Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM (#4394695)
The field is ridiculous. I mean seriously, they shouldn't play it.
   471. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM (#4394696)
The field is ridiculous. I mean seriously, they shouldn't play it.


Maybe. But apparently it's supposed to snow through Sunday, and I don't want the US playing Mexico on 48 hours' rest.
   472. Howling John Shade Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM (#4394702)
This is going to be awesome. To watch, that is. I feel bad for the players.

Edit: The U.S. is wearing camouflage.
   473. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM (#4394705)
It's almost impossible to follow the ball.
   474. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM (#4394706)
West Ham pens a pretty sweet deal for the Olympic Stadium. Their chairman still rages a bit in the article.
There's a lot of sore winner-ism in Gold's comments, but he's not entirely wrong. For all the talk of they were building the stadium with a legacy in mind, the whole process of figuring out a long-term plan has been pretty shambolic.
   475. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM (#4394707)
That field is abominable.
   476. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM (#4394708)
I would think on a day like this long shots would be a good play. See if you can get a slip from the keeper or a fumble or something like that. Make him handle the ball often.
   477. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM (#4394709)
That ball bounces ... like the field is frozen ... which it most likely is (I have no idea if any MSL pitches have undersoil heating)
   478. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM (#4394710)
I'm watching on a stream, i can't even see the ball.
   479. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:19 PM (#4394711)
I'm watching on a 47 inch HD TV and I can't see the ball either.
   480. Howling John Shade Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM (#4394715)
I think red would have been a much better choice of ball color.
   481. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:25 PM (#4394716)
I think ESPN needs to get creative with their camera angles. The low angle and the behind the goal angle both were clearer than the side angle is right now.

Of course if someone would WIPE OFF THE FREAKIN' CAMERA that might help too.
   482. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM (#4394718)
DEUCE!!!
   483. Mefisto Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM (#4394719)
The pitch gets credt for that goal.
   484. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM (#4394720)
woah. That happened.
   485. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:31 PM (#4394723)
I think red would have been a much better choice of ball color.


Apparently Adidas owns the rights to the orange ball. Tonight they are using a Nike ball, which I guess owns the yellow patent. Or something like that.
   486. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4394724)
Altidore looks as good as he has in a long time for the US
   487. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4394726)
they're gonna have to plow the pitch at halftime.
   488. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM (#4394727)
They are going to need to do a full bore clearing of the field at halftime to get this thing in.
   489. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4394731)
how do you get to be one of the guys running around with a shovel to outline the goalbox?
   490. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4394732)
That's really an impressive amount of snow-in-hair in this match ...
   491. Dale Sams Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4394733)
I thought FIFA rules say a game called after completing a half is not replayed.

Also, I'm not liking what I'm seeing from the US. The good, crisp through passes just arn't there.
   492. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4394734)
Rather see Gomez hit that free kick at the keeper and make him make a play.
   493. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM (#4394735)
I don't think you can make any kind of meaningful evaluation here Dale. The conditions are a joke.
   494. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM (#4394737)
Seriously, the only sport you can play in this weather is football. Even hockey would be questionable given the amount of accumulation on the ice.
   495. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4394738)
So ... how does this work?

If they kick off the 2nd half ... is that like recording the last out of the top of the 5th???
   496. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM (#4394740)
Jesus is the ref going to let a free kick come into the box without blowing the US for something?
   497. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM (#4394748)
Jones, Jozy, & Goodson have looked the best for the US. A little worried about Cameron, he looks a touch slow and/or is a bit unsure of himself on this field.
   498. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4394753)
Zusi is the guy who hasn'tmuch to offer for me. I think Beasley has done a cromulent job particularly given how little he's played of late for the US.
   499. Mefisto Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:21 PM (#4394755)
Yeah, Zusi and Cameron both look a bit lost. Beasley has surprised me.
   500. Rennie's Tenet Posted: March 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM (#4394756)
This could only be improved if they brought a herd of llamas onto the field.
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