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OT: Winter Soccer Thread

November 4 Borussia Dortmund v. Bayern Munich
November 5 Chelsea v. ManU
November 9 & 12 - Northern Ireland v. Switzerland/Croatia v. Greece
November 10 &  13 - Sweden v. Italy
November 11 & 14 - Denmark v. Ireland
November 10 & 15 - Honduras v. Australia
November 11 & 15 - New Zealand v. Peru
November 14 - Portugal v. USA (friendly #&!^#&)
December 1 - Napoli v. Juventus
December 10 - ManU v. ManCity
December 11 - Champions League Round of 16 draw
December 20 - Real Madrid v. Barcelona (how contentious will this be given the political climate?)

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   701. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:32 PM (#5624465)
Thank you Jebus.
   702. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5624468)
On the one hand, I'm sad we're losing. On the other hand, we're making Juventus look like Arsenal. Spurs just need to calm down and stop believing Aurier has a brain. He did the same thing in Madrid. If Poch is selecting him over Trippier for his European experience it is very ironic at this point.
   703. Baldrick Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:36 PM (#5624470)
This is a very silly game.

Juventus getting played off the park, but should really be up by two goals again.
   704. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:40 PM (#5624475)
The derp is strong in Aurier.

Based on this half's display, I'm thinking Rose and Trippier would have been the better call at fullback ...
   705. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:41 PM (#5624476)
I see the City tie is over at half.
   706. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5624484)
Gotta get Aurier out of there.
   707. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5624485)
nevermind, I'm discombobulated.
   708. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5624496)
Juventus have made some nice adjustments and are getting back some control of this. Bastards.
   709. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5624502)
Aurier has been really disappointing today. Have no idea where his head is.
   710. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:14 PM (#5624511)
GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   711. The Marksist Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:19 PM (#5624515)
Whatever happens in the last 15, this has been a hell of a performance by Spurs.
   712. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:23 PM (#5624517)
Love it. Betancur completely wipes out Davies then accuses him of diving. #### you Juventus!
   713. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:24 PM (#5624518)
Finally, Son is coming on.
   714. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5624523)
Juve fan I work with called it. About 12 minutes into the first half he said "too much too soon, we are going to go into a shell and let them back into it." We've had to remove his belt and shoelaces from his office.
   715. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5624524)
Costa has been Juve's best player by far.
   716. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:31 PM (#5624525)
A debut for Lucas Moura!
   717. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 13, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5624528)
Tottenham are favorites to advance now. Can't ask for more than that.
   718. SPICEY WITH A SIDE OF BEER ON A BABYYYYYYY Posted: February 13, 2018 at 11:44 PM (#5624678)
Douglas Costa is so ####### good and I don't understand why Bayern sent him out on loan.

As for Spurs, it was really a tale of two groups of players for me.

Ben Davies and Aurier are not up for playing the best teams in the world. And really, that's the level Tottenham is at now. They're a top 10 team in the world and they have a style that really ##### with a lot of top teams. Both of these clowns were awful and were responsible for almost all bad things that happened. Aurier at least had a couple nice crosses, Davies sucked at every facet of the game. Christ we need Danny Rose back. And Aurier is way too unpredictable. Unpredictability is one of the worst qualities a defender can have.

On the plus side, Tottenham absolutely ####### dominated midfield. Granted this is part of where Juve's main injuries are, but Eriksen is so ####### good. Is he better than Kane? I dunno. Maybe not, but he could start for every team in the world imo right now (for example, I'd take him over Silva). And Dembele. Holy ####### #### he was amazing. He was bossing that #### all game. Great, great dribbling, ball retention, several good passes. Man, he was maybe the MOTM for Spurs for me.
   719. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: February 14, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5625097)
I'd say Liverpool took care of business.
   720. Sean Forman Posted: February 14, 2018 at 04:58 PM (#5625132)
I was pulling for PSG, but I'm so happy I'm not cheering for a team with Neymar on a regular basis. So much ball hogging and flopping.

Though the amount of flopping by both sides going on for both sides in PSG vs Real Madrid was spectacular. I'll also never understand how Casemiro doesn't get a yellow every match.
   721. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 15, 2018 at 09:37 AM (#5625369)
The flopping was pretty egregious in that game. Real were kicking Neymar a bit but it was hard to tell how menacing it was with all of his flopping. I'm almost to the point where I don't mind the flop but I can't stand the theatrics accompanying the flop. Do your flop, look to see if the ref gave you the decision, and then get on with it. All the rolling around and grasping parts of your body that weren't even touched is getting old.

So far English teams have looked very strong in the KO's. Maybe Chelsea have more of a chance than people give them against Barca? Nothing I saw in that Real v PSG game made me fear for Spurs against either of them. Also, that result for Liverpool yesterday was kind of awesome. Teams just don't do that to Porto.
   722. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 15, 2018 at 09:43 AM (#5625375)
Gross.

So what if it's a graveyard as long as the checks cash.
   723. SPICEY WITH A SIDE OF BEER ON A BABYYYYYYY Posted: February 15, 2018 at 10:12 AM (#5625408)
I agree the flopping, especially the first 20 minutes was awful. It really affected the flow of the game and my enjoyment.

I will absolutely say that I thought the Real penalty was soft, and I also think Ronaldo got away with a foul on the PSG center back that led to the second goal.

All that said, PSG didn't look like anything approaching the best team in the world. I was quite disappointed with their play.
   724. J. Sosa Posted: February 15, 2018 at 10:28 AM (#5625421)
I was shocked watching the Liverpool match. I had been hoping for a 2-1 or something like that. Porto played poorly to be sure, and Liverpool played pretty well, but for the most part I just couldn't understand what Porto was trying to do. They seemed to want to play narrow? Mane and Salah had acres of space the whole match. I'm not complaining, it sets Liverpool up very nicely with upcoming fixtures, but it was surprising. I think I underestimate how much of a shock it can be attempting to deal with Liverpool's front three. I'm actually higher on them in Europe than I am domestically. Most clubs from here on out in Europe are going to attempt to play with Liverpool. Which is always going to give Liverpool a puncher's chance.

Rabiot's quote after the PSG match was pretty amazing. I've been following Neymar's sojourn in France a little bit, and from what I can tell he has made himself exceptionally unpopular in the locker room. But I'm pretty sure it isn't the water carrying mid that is going to win a club house struggle.

Shooty, yes, my wife and I were talking about that yesterday. The english clubs look very strong. Other than some early yips I thought Spurs were significantly stronger than Juventus. A club that has been to two of the last three Champion's League Finals! From Liverpool's perspective, it is the english clubs I fear in the quarters. Man U and Chelsea would park the bus, City is probably the most talented team, and Spurs have a better starting 11 than Liverpool at full strength. Spurs have some work to do, but I think they are going through. Chelsea is the only english club that I think won't make it, but that's mainly down to form. Barcelona is aging in some key spots.

BTW, FWiW, 538 REALLY likes Liverpool and Spurs for top four. I must confess I don't share that level of confidence, but with the FA Cup gone and five goals to play with in the second leg of the CL, Liverpool would have only themselves to blame if they blow it.
   725. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 15, 2018 at 10:44 AM (#5625434)
But I'm pretty sure it isn't the water carrying mid that is going to win a club house struggle.

If PSG want to kick Rabiot off to Spurs, I'll take him. He's quality. We tried to sign him a year and a half ago but PSG only wanted to loan him.
   726. J. Sosa Posted: February 15, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5625450)
Rabiot is awesome. But they don’t seem to value him for some reason.

Do the Kovavic rumours have any truth for Spurs?
   727. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 15, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5625476)
Do the Kovavic rumours have any truth for Spurs?

First I've heard of it. My default stance on rumors this far from summer is no, though.
   728. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: February 15, 2018 at 11:30 AM (#5625478)
According to the 538 thingamajig, England has a 7% chance of seeing all 5 of its teams make the quarterfinals, and 42% chance of seeing four teams make it. That'll do some good things for the ol' coefficient.

By comparison, Spain has a 24% chance of getting three teams into the quarters.
   729. J. Sosa Posted: February 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5625496)
The PL is the deepest I can recall it being at the top since I have been watching. I didn’t follow the sport when Benitez, Mourinho, Wenger, and SAF were doing their thing a decade ago. I think it is mostly attributable to elite managers joining the PL. Money doesn’t hurt either.
   730. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: February 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM (#5625498)
All that said, PSG didn't look like anything approaching the best team in the world. I was quite disappointed with their play.
PSG is going to continue to be a hard team to peg in terms of quality unless they make a long run deep into the CL knockout stages (so maybe we will have to wait another year). There just isn't enough of a sample size of challenging games to form an educated opinion. Even ELO-based systems like 538 and the ELO site I linked disagree strongly on how good they are (538 had them as the 2nd best team in the world while the ELO site had them at around 7 or 8, in the same vicinity as Liverpool and ManU).

Neymar is so good on the ball that he gets hacked at a lot, so sometimes you feel for him a little bit. On the other hand, he also looks to draw fouls. Early in the game against RM he left his leg out in such a way that what would have been very minor contact resulted in a clear foul. That's part of his game of course but it's not the kind of thing that garners much sympathy. And then of course the diving.

Here's hoping PSG gets eliminated early from the CL this year and every year, especially if Neymar is on the team. Though, I strongly suspect if it happens again Neymar will force his way off the club.
   731. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 15, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5625529)
Very strong team for Arsenal today. Wenger wisely not risking Wilshere on a frozen, plastic pitch.
   732. AuntBea calls himself Sky Panther Posted: February 15, 2018 at 01:34 PM (#5625557)
Very strong team for Arsenal today
I think they are off after this until next week's rematch against Ostersunds, and they are effectively (if you ask me) out of the race for top 4 anyway. Never been a better time to play a strong team.
   733. The Marksist Posted: February 15, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5625564)
I was shocked watching the Liverpool match. I had been hoping for a 2-1 or something like that.


Me, too. And I was nervous until they scored the third of fourth. I know Porto didn't up up much ex-gee, but I thought they looked fairly dangerous on the run. Of course, the nerves are probably pathological at this point.
   734. There are a lot of good people in alt-Shooty Posted: February 15, 2018 at 02:24 PM (#5625599)
Arsenal have killed their tie already. Dortmund are losing at home to Atalanta. Athletic have killed their tie against Spartak. No one talks much about Athletic but I'd have them as one of the favorites of the tourney.
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