The Washington Nationals might have bitten off more than they can chew by naming William Howard Taft as their next racing mascot. If you aren’t familiar with the controversy, the baseball team features four mascots dressed as U.S. presidents that race around the Nationals’ stadium during home games to entertain fans.
“Teddy has handpicked the next president for the Presidents’ Race,” Nationals COO Andy Feffer told the newspaper on Friday, a day before the Taft mascot was rolled out. “There was a great amount of banter and discussion back and forth, but Teddy won out with his recommendation.”
On Saturday, the sanitized Taft mascot made its debut at a fan event, looking at least 100 pounds lighter than its real-life counterpart.
The reaction in the media, so far, is that even sportswriters who aren’t historians know the two men hated each other.
The Post’s Dan Steinberg asked a local historian how bad the blood was between TR and Taft.
Allan Lichtman, distinguished professor of history at American University, told Steinberg that each man considered the other a backstabber, and they had no qualms taking down each other in a presidential election.
“The rivalry was as bitter as it gets in politics,” said Lichtman. “There’s nothing like the feeling of betrayal, and both men felt betrayed by the other.”
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King would have won the primary anyway, so it is just smart politics on Latham's part.
Newegg.com is your friend. I've built 2 desktop systems in the last 6 months (1 for me, 1 a my friend) and 2 more in the past based almost entirely off of item feedback and just using 4 or 5 star rated components (that had a decent number of reviews). I can't think of one component compatability issue that came up. Plus newer motherboards are becoming increasingly easy to troubleshoot and tweak, with actual BIOS UIs and LED displays that allow you to read the error code if there's a problem (instead of having to decipher a series of beeps).
In addition, Youtube is frankly a godsend for building your own PC, especially since a lot of slightly more exotic components, like this CPU Heatsink/Fan that I installed recently have god-awful instructions provided. You can find a slew of How-To Videos on pretty much any subject and specific component.
My recommendations in computer sales, was ALWAYS buy the fastest processor you can afford. You aren't ever buying for today, any computer can do what you want it to do today(barring high end gaming) It's all about how long is this processor going to be able to run whatever is coming down the tubes.
I agree, provided you make sure that you can disable the built in video card. (Not sure what they are doing nowadays, but 2+ years ago, the cheaper proprietary(Hp/Compaq, Gateway/Emachines, Sony, Lenova/IBM etc) motherboards, didn't allow you to disable the video card through the hardware(some not at all) so you would want to make sure that it's possible to disable the video card, preferably with a jumper on the motherboard, instead of the bios.
To be honest, it isn't that hard, provided you do the research first(and of course make sure you have a running computer available as you are building it, just in case you need to research more) It only becomes difficult if you are trying to do something weird or extreme(and even that most of the time isn't that much more complicated) and of course take your time. (too many times I've had friends who are "computer experts" who have called me to troubleshoot their builds, because they ran into problems when they tried to do too many things at once. If you are a true expert that is fine, but things work much better if you install pieces one at a time, reboot, install next piece)
Such a deep thinker.
Mouse, I've built two PCs in my life and I have trouble tying my shoes. It really is pretty trivial. I'm currently thinking of the next one.
Tons of review and articles (including a variety of complete system builds at varying price points), lots of forums if you need advice pre-build or assistance during and every month or so they put together hand summarys of the current state of various components.
Best Graphics cards for the money - Feb 2013
Best Gaming CPUs for the Money - Feb 2013
TomsHardware forums are always useful. If you give people your budget, needs, and parameters, you'll usually get a few people putting together some pcpartpicker.com builds for you (that's a fun site and will only show you compatible parts).
Me too. Just waiting for Haswell.
I am not a fan of tomshardware, for a variety of reasons.
The best info I have found is from the nerds that populate the overclockers.com forums. I am a nerd, and these guys put me to shame. Many of the people there build and overclock machines as a hobby. There is just a ridiculous amount of information available there in the various subforms and if you can't find what you are looking for, people are generally pretty good about answering questions you post.
Pretty much. I've had several of my Silicon Valley guys insist that a new i7 bought today will easily run any game that comes out in the next 4 years, at which point you'll probably be ready to upgrade anyway.
That was good advice at one time, but now it's mostly a waste of money for anybody except the most extreme power users or people who plan on keeping the same computer forever. Somebody who wants to play games and web surf on their computer derives zero value from an i7 3930k processor over a far cheaper i7 3770k, except perhaps in the form of dick waving.
Lots of good information here regarding home builds as well. I no longer do my own builds because I'm both lazy and have more money than time, but it ain't rocket science and it's satisfying to use a system that you built yourself.
Another piece of advice I gave was usually "Don't buy the highest end product" when it comes to processor, it's not worth the minimum performance improvement relative to cost. But if you are debating between an i5 and an i7, and can afford the i7, buy the i7. I don't generally worry about incremental improvements, but type(i5 vs i7 and of course newest generation) improvements is important.
No doubt Karl Rove would agree, to say nothing of David Frum. Alas their side appears to be making zero progress.
Thanks, Vaux.
I would have written your reply if you hadn't, only not quite as well, and nowhere near as concisely.
Mouse, what do you see as the biggest differences and advances coming in the next 20-30 years?
Np.
But, they are the smartest, right? And we (individually, culturally, and socially) tangibly benefit from that. And I don't see how intelligence and smartness and the attributes you venerate are mutually exclusive. Indeed, smartiness just might push those along on the whole in the long run, I would think. Or maybe it's all about interests and self-interests, and smartness just helps with formulating and utilizing tactics and strategies to get your way. Think more Darwinianly and less pseudo-moralistically, quasi-religiously. For me, feeling discouraged about the way we, mankind and man are, is jerry-rigging the game. There is no alternate reality; we are what we are. There is no way everyone can get what they want. Thus, there will always be dissatisfaction. Pretending that my way is THE WAY is pure illusion. Childish illusion. It's a kid on the beach building that sand castle with the idea of actually being able to live in it.
How so? I'm not sure how to read your post.
I assume the problem has to do with operations or results being ready to move in one section of the computer, but to move they need other information to arrive (or more completely, they need to meet that other information elsewhere). That second piece of information is completed, but still needs to travel or is in the process of traveling. Once you put completed computations several feet apart, getting them together becomes a time consuming and therefore a limiting factor.
More technically, processors work on clock cycles, so a signal generated by an operation by a 1 Ghz processor can only travel about 30 cm per cycle. You put two processors more than 30 cm apart and you're 'wasting' a clock cycle. The closer together you put processors the faster your computer runs, but the more heat you generate in a smaller area. Processors melt quickly (really quickly) when heat isn't removed or transferred. It's a huge issue now.
Another problem with putting stuff really, really close together in order to overcome speed of light limitations is quantum tunneling. The simplest way to put that is that information bleeds or leaks from one part to the next, corrupting it.
My primary interests in this area (since in my home builds speed of light limitations won't be an issue for a couple of decades--and I strongly encourage anyone considering building their own computer to do so. These days the amount of information and help available is extraordinary. You might want in advance to register on a couple of forums that specialize in helping novices build their own rigs, more for reassurance than anything else) are in strong AI, brain emulation, brain downloading, and so on, speed is and isn't an issue. You can get around it in a number of ways, though accommodating speed issues does slow the design process... If what you're interested in is the result, in some sense it doesn't matter if the result takes four seconds to get, or four days.
For example i can write a "genetic simlation" of a eukaryotic cell (yeast have ca. 7000 genes) that runs on an iPAD. it probably would be a very useful model though.
I could also design a time dependent quantum mechanical simulation of the 10^20 atoms on a cell, but that aint running on any earth hardware, ever. It too many degrees of freedom.
The wiki has a very good summary in its well-written page on Accelerating [Evolutionary] Change.
According to Kurzweil, since the beginning of evolution, more complex life forms have been evolving exponentially faster, with shorter and shorter intervals between the emergence of radically new life forms, such as human beings, who have the capacity to engineer (intentionally to design with efficiency) a new trait which replaces relatively blind evolutionary mechanisms of selection for efficiency. By extension, the rate of technical progress amongst humans has also been exponentially increasing, as we discover more effective ways to do things, we also discover more effective ways to learn, i.e. language, numbers, written language, philosophy, scientific method, instruments of observation, tallying devices, mechanical calculators, computers, each of these major advances in our ability to account for information occur increasingly close together. Already within the past sixty years, life in the industrialized world has changed almost beyond recognition except for living memories from the first half of the 20th century. This pattern will culminate in unimaginable technological progress in the 21st century, leading to a singularity. Kurzweil elaborates on his views in his books The Age of Spiritual Machines and The Singularity Is Near.
edit: @421--thanks for the clarification, especially if 'would' should read 'wouldn't' in your second graf. For the purposes of brain emulation, I wonder how much we need to know of the as yet undiscovered biochemical parameters you mention (fwiw I agree with your assessment). As for the 10carat20 figure, true, but again I keep coming back to what we need to include for the model to do what we want it to do. Did you have something in mind specifically, where we need to model that many atoms in order to achieve a desired result or investigate something in particular? In short, what would that model accomplish that simpler models wouldn't (realizing that we may not know until we created that model, even though we could not create that particular model [you know what I mean, I'm sure]).
You may not like that, but it doesn't make Kurzweil a kook for his (and thousands of others) exploration of the near term consequences of the exponential increase in computational power.
Or, how so? How is Kurzweil a kook?
edit: the link I posted to "Accelerating Change" has some useful criticisms of that idea, but none of those criticisms involve charges of 'kookery'.
It's also worth noting that we're still an infant species. We've only been around somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 years, depending on what you consider "human." If the Earth were one day old, we'd show up fairly close to the last 20 minutes of that day. We've only been able to write for a little more than 5,000 years. What we've been able to do in such a short time is nothing short of remarkable, by the standard of "compared to every other species we've encountered, ever."
I thought you were talking about the character of humans. That derives from our biological nature. It is the predicate for behavior and for forms of organization, relationships, and interaction.
I don't see that changing. We will have to deal with scarcity and competing interests for those scarce resources.
If we become immortal, that would be a radical, cataclysmic change. We wouldn't then be driven by the drive for survival. That could result in a change in basic character, it can be mooted, but I doubt it would be instantaneous, or even fast. But if that is so, moralistic terms would become anachronistic also, wouldn't it?
Funny that you should speak of this speed of change outstripping of Darwin (whatever's happening it's still organisms responding to environmental pressure, though) on our way careening towards a Singularity. It's reminiscent to me of the way Dawkins writes of "replicators" and "vehicles" in The Selfish Gene (and how they, too, can be in conflict), and the way natural selection created and engineered "survival machines."
Oh, stop.
Yes, humans have been very successful. It's truly astounding what we have done and accomplished. And it seems to be very human to take that success and make it seem a bad thing. We should do better--like the other animals do.
We are Men like Gods (Greek gods with flaws, not the "perfect" Abrahamic god or the ultimate philosphical god, whatever the #### that is). But, what's the alternative--letting nature have its way as we recede back to being her pawn? I don't think so. Besides, we know what nature's freee hand is like, and it is a whole lot less prettier than having us interfere with that nature.
I actually would like to get all this boring web engineering off my plate and thing about doing a transcriptional model of an entire yeast cell.... but there's always more "real" work to do. Research pays dick.
@427: agree with your first two grafs. Also, even if we attain practical immortality, most questions remain. There will be some forms of scarcity, still, and as always the superrich will have first claim on any dramatic leaps. One of the most interesting of the new issues will be multiple identities. Why couldn't there be a flesh and blood Morty, enjoying endless rejuvenation (but always at the risk of corporeal death) along with Zetaflop Morty, who will experience the universe differently, and in a potentially infinite number of ways? Zetaflop Morty Prime might send himself out as an interstellar probe, some sort of Bracewell Probe, whose primary sensory apparatus experiences the universe at the quantum level.
Zetaflop Morty Prime might instead have an additional dozen or thousand versions who report back to ZMPrime, whose primary task is to integrate those experiences. Even so, there will always the moral issue of how you treat other entities, and what you might owe them. Multiple identities or an immortal identity also probably only defers the question of an afterlife for many folks.
@431: For people who don't get the science, Kurzweil (and his ilk) are very threatening. The best crits of his theorizing have to do more with his optimistic timeline than they do with specific objections, or assert that x or y is unsolvable and since x or y are necessary to continued evolution, said evolution necessarily stalls. Do read carefully the people who are freaked out by his line of thinking. They rarely criticize the science. Instead the snark degenerates into some version of "What goofy stuff! That's not what my life is like. How could that ever really happen??"
In general this is a silly thing to say. Newton is obsolete also from one perspective. In fact every scientist becomes quickly "obsolete" unless their science is basically dead and solved.
Darwin had some fundemental breakthroughs in science and is one of the most influential scientists of all time, but to the surprise of no one (including Darwin were he alive) the science has moved on.
I am not willing to say he is a kook, but the past is littered with people who "knew" the future and all of them were wrong (though a lucky few were wrong less than 100%). If you take every prediction you read and assume it is completely wrong you will quickly compile a record that on Wall Street would make you very very rich (and you would miss some great speculation).
I am not saying it is worthless to speculate about the future, it is very useful, but speculating and swallowing it whole are very very different things.The truth is change is present and in some ways accelerating. It is also true that we still live with the legacy of the past and it is always with us.
And yet they still can't fix the price-selection slider on StubHub to let you to see the cheap tickets easily.
For one, he really doesn't understand what he is talking about.
The History Network seems to want to disagree with you. It's amazing how many shows they devote to Nostradamus.
Newtonian gravity, perhaps. Newtonian optics, perhaps. Newtonian mint running - well, nobody has the will for that many executions anymore.
Calculus is still totally good though. And probably a few other things I'm forgetting.
I sure hope so. There's been a general trend in my spam to shift from male enhancement and knockoff electronics to diabetic testing supplies, mobility scooters, and tombstones.
I wouldn't be so quick to write off King...
Don't get me wrong - I think he's definitely in the team photo of DC's biggest jackasses - but he's got a political skillset that's much better than most of the rest of that team. In other words - don't count on him Akin'ing himself into a loss.
We can debate the relative merits of Christine Vilsack as a candidate - but she was certainly a credible candidate, with the backing of the national party, in what was seen as a key pickup opportunity.
She attempted to use the proper template to beat him in the IA-4 race last cycle.... painting him as crazy and unhinged. However, he was able to rather deftly parry those attacks and stayed surprisingly disciplined.
Now... a Senate race - even in IA - is different from a CD race, and I'm quite sure that the DNC/DSCC/dem candidate will be going airwave shock and awe to make King's many, many crazy statements more prominent (and thus, harder to just to write off as 'out of context' or laugh away in a debate), but the Dems do need to be prepared for the idea that King might very well not Angle/Murdouch/Akin himself into lost causedom.
Don't get me wrong - the idea of Steve King replacing Tom Harkin makes me physically ill (hell, even replacing Grassley with him would make me only slightly less ill)... but he's a better politician and more disciplined than the most of the others of his ilk.
Iowa isn't Missouri.
(He explained further a decade later. Perhaps the adjective "elderly" requires definition. In physics, mathematics, and astronautics it means over thirty; in the other disciplines, senile decay is sometimes postponed to the forties. There are, of course, glorious exceptions; but as every researcher just out of college knows, scientists of over fifty are good for nothing but board meetings, and should at all costs be kept out of the laboratory!)
His second law: The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
True - but King's IA-4 was supposed to be tougher turf for him (Iowa uses a nonpartisan redistricting process) and one of the Dem's best pickup opportunities. It was still an R+4 district though. King lapped Vilsack by nearly 8 points.
Now... in the Dems favor -- that's roughly the same margin Obama lost IA-4, while he did win Iowa overall by close to 6 points.
Hey - don't get me wrong... King's the guy I want to run against in what is probably a "must hold" Senate seat in 2014... I'm just saying that it shouldn't be looked upon as a gimme in the same sense Reid was breathing a sigh of relief when Angle won her NV primary, the Dems started licking their chops when Murdouch won the IN primary, O'Donnell in DE, etc. He's a cut above the standard bomb thrower when it comes to discipline and chops in an actual campaign.
EDIT: - PPP has King down 11 points to Braley (PDF).
That's definitely encouraging...
It's been guesstimated that mammal species have an average lifespan (as a species) of about a million years, if you just look at the background extinction rate. If that is true, we humans are right now probably something less than two standard deviations below the average species lifespan (assuming a fairly broad sigma). That would indicate that we're still young, but we're past the point at which 10% of our peer species have been winkled out by their environment.
In terms of lifespan, we're probably off to college, and definitely old enough to have our drivers license. Let's just hope we don't wrap the car around a tree.
Mourdock was well known in Indiana; he was elected and then re-elected as the state treasurer. While treasurer he got into the national news by filing a suit against the Chrysler bailout. This suit didn't sit very well with many people in Indiana because of the large Chrysler presence in the state. During his second term as treasurer it was discovered that over 500 million dollars in tax receipts had been placed into the wrong accounts. This money was discovered but not before many counties and cities had to borrow money to make up for the revenue "shortfall". I think it is fair to say that everyone in Indiana who cared knew about Mourdock and where he stood.
I took Jack to mean that Darwinism is obsolete? Not only Darwin's pronouncements himself. But, yes, it is wrong either way. We're still grappling to come to terms with the implications of natural selection and its subsets and offshoots as he understood them. Sexual selection and psychology, sociology? One of his last great works was entitled The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals. That's very much being played out evolutionary psychology and sociobiology. In a joint interview with James Watson, E. O. Wilson commented that everytime he thought he had come up with something new, it turned out Darwin had already thougt of. Watson concurred.
Probably so (and I pretty agree with the meat of that paragraph), but it is also hard to determine how much the predictions and warnings had to do with that. Case in point: Orwell and 1984 and Animal Farm. That that world in the west hasn't come to pass has very much to do with him. Of course, Kurzweil is laying out his theories as a cautionary tale to be avoided. Just would include this footnote to the general comment.
To be fair to the "humanity sucks" crowd (though I am still not part of them), humanity pretty much seems to be an extinction level event for a huge number of species on Planet Earth.
No idea if the average lifespan of a maml is 1 million years or what, but it is interesting.
I give you ... Julio Franco.
Excellent links. Everyone interested in the topic and Kurzweil should read them. PZ Meyers can be a pain in the ass, but like his cohorts Dawkins, Coyne, Pinker, and Dennett, he always presents his views clearly and cogently. Harris, too. If you disagree with them, you'll know why. He, and they, don't play games of verbal smoke and mirrors for political or ideological reasons.
Sen. Braley, come on down.
He's just standing up for the low-status males who are tired of being bullied by manipulative harridans who have stacked the courts and rigged the laws in their favor. Why are you so opposed to a little balance on behalf of men?
But it does prove my original point. Why do we need orders of magnitude more computing power to do this, it was run on a 128 node cluster last year?
We need someone to speak up and represent the poor downtrodden white male. If only we had a thread where we could discuss such things ...
Guys like Kurzweil - and other physicists, philosophers, and computer scientists postulating about biology generally make fools of themselves because they don't do any cursory background reading in the field, let alone strive to understand it's chalenges (e.g., parameter estimation)
There is an old ancedote about Feynman, whom, after sitting through a seminar from an evolutionary biologist - went home in a frenzy. Came back in a few days with a notebook of equations etc, and showed it to a colleague in the biology department:
"Look Bill - I've been thinking about this and here are some important equations above evolution I've been deriving".
"Yes, Richard - you can find those in any graduate textbook on evolutionary biology"
That it has been refined and elaborated on since the mid-1800's changes nothing.
I have been told there is no GOP war against women, but sometimes is hard not to blame women for thinking there is ...
But that applies to all of us. We all think we're right reflexively. We all seek justification. Yadda yadda yadda.
But, really, what it is, is we all have our interests.
However, resources (what is needed to meet our interests) are limited, more limited than all our desires.
We therefore come into conflict, as we strive for the same thing.
Our resolution is simple: to find that what's right (in all senses) is what favors us. Why can't others see that? They do. Only the placeholders change position.
We right because we want it to favor us; others are wrong because they want it to favor them.
We cast this in the intellectual winning combination of being "wrong" or "right" in a universal abstract sense. My way is best for everyone, individually and collectively. You don't like it but it's good for you. And it's good for us. But, by that, we really just mean "I want to" because I need to, because it makes me feel good.
Why should they be exempt?
This is very wrong on many levels. From an evolutionary standpoint (for the species) it is advantages to be altruistic. Altruism is part of humanity (as is selfishness I admit). Pretending it is not is just foolish. Unless you are allowing for a really flexible and abstract meaning of "us" in your statement, and if so your statement has zero impact.
We've had this discussion exactly once for a few days, and you still haven't got the ####-stains out of your underwear?
To be fair to them, it is the fact that people can look at themselves and think, "We suck" that has led to much of the advances we've made.
I'll let you borrow my notes from Dr. Keith's physiology class?
Approaching maximum awesomeness
I have a rather annoying project that keeps getting stalled and was looking to job board it out -- it's basically a small little, nothing fancy UI to generate an XML file that relies on refrences from a different XML file (both using the same schema/dtd)... I'm pretty sure it's something a competent developer - .NET, even VB or something - could knock out in a few hours. Anyway... I used to have a bunch of links to job boards where you could post projects and get bids from freelancers, but I just discovered that I lost all my bookmarks in an upgrade and can't remember the places I used to browse for this sort of thing... It's honestly a simple enough file that I'm half-tempted to just have my team manually edit, but with even a minimalist UI and tool, I can get it out of my hair..
Anyone have any recommendations for online marketplaces you might use for relatively micro projects of this sort?
In related news:
Most graduate school can't be taught from a text book, they haven't been written yet. You don't even take classes after the first year, except maybe for funsies.
I took classes my first 2 years. But you are right. The most advanced classes don't even use textbooks, or have one but it's rarely referenced. Mostly, it's about reading and digesting recent seminal research papers.
LOL. He called Cantor "a little weasel".
You have to admit that describes Cantor pretty well though, right?
Kurzweil is a kook(anyone who takes that many vitamins has some serious issues) but he's also awesome. I want my futurists to be thinking positive, even after doing the math. Is he going to be right? More than likely not, but so what, he opens up discussions and imagination about how things can be.
Post 460 pretty much gave the proper response to this. Evolution is fundamental to pretty much all biological studies going on now, it's more or less a scientific fact, arguably one of the most evidence supported scientific theories out there. Just because what Darwin wrote isn't 100%, doesn't make it obsolete. Copernicus was mostly wrong, with the exception of the underlying theory, and that is what was important.
We go back "only" 100 to 200k if your definition of "human" is someone you could shave/wash and have wonder around a cocktail party without anyone noticing
We go back 2 million if you count Home Erectus/ Homo Ergaster and the like (who were a hell of a lot more closely related to us than our extant more closely related relatives chimps and bonobos...
so when you say the average mammal "species" last 1 million years- how similar is that species from year 1 to year 1 million?
The last common ancestor between us and the chimps was about 5-7 million years ago...
Levin is my favorite right-wing loonybird. I especially love how he blatantly lies to his audience about U.S. v. Morrison, claiming that it struck down the entirety of the original VAWA rather than a small part of it.
Question of the day: just what libation would said early human prefer? And how obnoxious would he/she be once three hides to the wind?
Picking battles is a form of compromise, and compromise is verboten.
Reminds me of a story a councilman in a neighboring town told me.
He was first elected in 2010, during the big Tea Party wave, and one of his first votes was a proposed hike to the city's property tax. The local TPers demanded a meeting with him, and at the sit-down said under no circumstances should he vote for the tax hike. But I'm outnumbered, he said, and if I do that the tax get raised. However, he offered, there may be a compromise in which we make cuts here and here and then raise the tax to a level that would be only half the hike on the table. Would you go for that? No, they said, because then you voted to raise taxes. But you'd rather have me fail to stop the rate from going up by X when I can get it raised only X*0.5? They were adamant: Yes.
They have such an endearing way of doubling down on the stupid.
For normal people, I would think that the ability to not compromise is a good thing, but in some respects the hard right people appear to be Roscharch going up against Ozymandias/Dr Manhattan. Compromise is unfortunately a central tenet of public office, the fact that they haven't realized that does tend to make them look ridiculous.
P.O.E.
Purity of Essence ... Peace on Earth.
Where's Morty get the money to pay for all this? It's not like his consciousness is particularly valuable, I'm assuming, so with any scarcity he's going to have to pay for it. Until we get to a world where replicating everything is cheap and easy, this isn't really a viable goal.
Say what? Inability to compromise is a terrible thing. Choosing when to and when not to obviously requires wisdom (what a concept), but to render oneself unable to compromise is to be a public menace.
Compromise is unfortunately a central tenet of public office
There's nothing in the least unfortunate about it. It is the defining brilliance of the democratic system.
QFT.
I'm talking about compromising your values, not compromising in order to work well with others.
It's unfortunate if your values and beliefs are the correct ones and you have to compromise to an inferior system.
Even in corporate business, you have to learn the skill of compromise, if only because if you're fighting every battle you're not getting anything done.
Please tell me you're not serious.
I know that compromise is integral to progress etc. But at the same time, I don't think you should automatically assume that compromise is for the best in every situation.
Yes I'm serious, in a defense against the barbarians type of way. Too often people are asked to compromise their values by peer pressure. You don't compromise certain principles no matter what, that is an admirable trait, although it can also be foolish and impractical. I don't see anything wrong with that thought process.
Fine, but the inability to distinguish between "certain principles" and the means to the end of furthering them is just plain stupidity. Surely you agree.
Agree. I was just pointing out that it does take strong character to stick to your guns provided you are "right". I find that admirable personally. But again, it can be impractical and foolish depending on what the situation is,(which is what is pointed out in the comment that started this tangent)
I wouldn't. Those are different species, even if they share the same genus. I'd expect them to be a lot more similar to us than Pan troglodytes or Pan paniscus.
Even 200,000 years is a very generous estimate for humanity in the anatomical sense, let alone the behavioral.
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