Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, September 11, 2017

OTP 11 September 2017: Hurricane Irma wreaking havoc on minor league baseball playoffs

There are 18 minor league affiliations that play playoffs every season, and those playoffs all have different formats – some with one wild card, some with split first-half/second-half winners, some with a required 8-10 team playoff grouping. This season, the issues caused by Hurricane Irma will lead to 3 of those 18 championships being cancelled and turned into co-champions.

(As always, views expressed in the article lede and comments are the views of the individual commenters and the submitter of the article and do not represent the views of Baseball Think Factory or its owner.)

Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 11, 2017 at 07:54 AM | 1783 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: minor league baseball, minor leagues, playoffs, politics

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 4 of 18 pages ‹ First  < 2 3 4 5 6 >  Last ›
   301. DavidFoss Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:03 PM (#5530312)
Also, still no headphone jack, which is a deal-breaker for me.

Wireless charging now, so no charge cord jack? Super water resistant now?

I don't know how I feel about wireless charging. Sounds great, but I hope it isn't flakey. Previous times I have had 'sits on a cradle' devices (garmin watches) it's more pain than its worth. That was ten years ago now, though.
   302. Lassus Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:05 PM (#5530314)
Sound quality is higher with analog, and since I already have a nice pair of studio monitors that I use for audio editing, why would I want to spend a decent amount of money on something that's measurably worse at the same job? Also, why the #### would I want to move from something that draws power from the phone to something that has an independent power source that needs to be monitored and periodically recharged? That seems like a huge pain in the ass.

All of this is fair enough, but the lack of cords is a good enough reason for me. My GF is a choreographer so wireless headphones were the greatest thing that ever happened to her.

And for a massive percentage of the population, I'd have to say the drop in quality is not as measurable as it is for an audio engineer.

(Not sure why you'd bring up studio monitors when comparing headphones, though.)
   303. BrianBrianson Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:09 PM (#5530318)
And for a massive percentage of the population, I'd have to say the drop in quality is not as measurable as it is for an audio engineer.


No, the real problem for most people is that now I have to charge three things instead of one, have to keep track of three things instead of one, have to buy three things instead of one - for no upshot.

It's not indoor plumbing - it's an indoor outhouse.
   304. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:11 PM (#5530319)
The problem is that tech wise, we've long ago reached the point of diminishing returns on both hardware and software.


Strongly disagree. Things like portable charging and wireless charging are game changers.

Operating speed, memory storage, reductions in size and weight, increases in power and capability....

These are not small things in total.
   305. Lassus Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:13 PM (#5530320)
for no upshot.

As explained, mobility, lack of cord. But I understand if that's not an upshot for you.

I don't even have bluetooth headphones. With a lack of a commute, I don't need them. But based on the limited occasions I've used them, if I ever have frequent usage, I would definitely get them.
   306. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:13 PM (#5530321)
Re the Ted Cruz liking the tweet thing, who cares

It wouldn't be nearly as funny if he weren't being hoist by his own petard, given his past remarks about the damage done by the "pornography epidemic" in America and his stated position that adults do not have the right to stimulate their own genitals for sexual satisfaction.

Maybe he was just watching it for the cinematography, rather than out of any prurient interest?


The rule: All politicians are hypocritical liars.
   307. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:15 PM (#5530322)
so few people in America living in actual poverty

14.3%, about the same rate as it's been since the late '60s. Not sure that really counts as a "so few", and the essentially sideways trend line doesn't really support a connection to the cost of manufactured goods.


The problem: The arbitrary and capricious definition of "poverty."

We can largely ameliorate the poverty problem by changing the definition to a more sensible line.

See? I just instantly lifted tens of millions of Americans out of poverty and it didn't cost us a dime.
   308. BrianBrianson Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:20 PM (#5530325)
As explained, mobility, lack of cord. But I understand if that's not an upshot for you.


Indeed "asserted" is not "explained".

"It makes it easier to lose your earpieces." & "It makes it harder to keep everything charged" are not upsides, which are basically what "lack of cord" means.
   309. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:20 PM (#5530328)
I don't even have bluetooth headphones. With a lack of a commute, I don't need them.


I use them at work (noise cancelling = awesome). I use a different set for working out. But everyone has different needs.

And I have needed the headphone jack occasionally, when the battery dies and I want to listen, it is nice to just pug in (but mostly I hate the cords).
   310. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:22 PM (#5530329)
Far be it from me to speak for anyone else, but I'm guessing something along the lines of it being that subset of "poverty" victims who don't have a car, don't have a cell phone, don't have cable TV, can't afford booze and/or smokes and/or lottery tickets, etc. How the size of that subset relates to the set of all people the government defines as being in poverty is something I'm not going to speculate on.


Indeed. Follow people "living in poverty" around and see how much they spend on cigarettes, booze, slot machines, lottery tickets, air conditioning, smartphones, SportsCenter, junk food.

How much they should be spending on their health insurance or their children but don't.

The problem with the definition presents itself. And the notion that it is 14% of people in the US who can't afford basic essentials -- which, again, to bring this full circle, are dirt cheap nowadays -- is ludicrous.
   311. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:25 PM (#5530333)
We can largely ameliorate the poverty problem by changing the definition to a more sensible line.
I agree. People should expect to spend more than 1/3 of their income on a "a minimum food diet in 1963".

How much of your income do you spend on food Ray?
   312. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:26 PM (#5530334)
"It makes it easier to lose your earpieces." & "It makes it harder to keep everything charged" are not upsides, which are basically what "lack of cord" means.


Cords suck and are always getting tangled. It is awesome to not have to worry about them. Especially when working out, I watch TV shows and cords would be a terrible idea. One false move and zing! off goes the phone tumbling along the treadmill.

And regarding charging, it is hardly ever the bluetooth headphones which have issues. It is usually the zipclip (radio and MP3 player) which I use when walking the dog that dies and forces mew to use the jack on my phone. My workout wireless earbuds have a case which charges them and I periodically plug in the case and I never have issues with that.

But hey, we all have different things we value.
   313. BrianBrianson Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:27 PM (#5530335)
We can largely ameliorate the poverty problem by changing the definition to a more sensible line.


Which I gather is "sleep in a ditch, eat no more than once a week".
   314. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5530337)
See? I just instantly lifted tens of millions of Americans out of poverty and it didn't cost us a dime.


Us? I much prefer using your money, taken at gunpoint.
   315. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5530338)
Indeed. Follow people "living in poverty" around and see how much they spend on cigarettes, booze, slot machines, lottery tickets, air conditioning, smartphones, SportsCenter, junk food.
Oh, yes, the tried-and-true "welfare queens" lie.
   316. DavidFoss Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:29 PM (#5530339)
junk food

Food desert issues aside, junk food is cheap. More calories per dollar.
   317. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:29 PM (#5530340)
I have mentioned GOP retirements recently, here is a good analysis on the issue. It is not 100% things look great for Democrats, but still ... The Recent Rush Of GOP Retirements Is Good For Democrats

A rash of retirements doesn’t necessarily signal a wave election, and (predicted) waves don’t necessarily spur more retirements. Instead, the pattern of retirements appears to be generational as well as about representatives responding to the political environment. Republican retirees have outnumbered Democratic ones in most election cycles since the mid-1990s; for the 20 years before that, Democrats usually retired at higher rates than Republicans. Members of big freshman classes like 1994’s and 1974’s have to hang up their spurs sometime.

That said, the most fundamental takeaway is still this: Retirements from a competitive state or district hurt the party the member belongs to. The reason is simple: incumbency advantage. It’s easier, for example, for a Democrat to win in a slightly red district in an open election than to take on a sitting House member. The more Republicans in competitive districts who retire heading into 2018, the more seats Democrats can realistically go after.

And there may yet be plenty more. At 24 announced open seats so far this year, we are still a long way from the 40 or so total that is normal for recent cycles. Keep an eye on how many more retirements are in the offing; the more Republicans who head for the exits, the worse 2018 could be for the party.
   318. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:29 PM (#5530341)

I'm not sure how the standard can be criticized as ever-shifting... so far as I know, the government's poverty line level has always been calculated using a simple "three times the cost of annual food diet", adjust annually via CPI.


Food is wildly inexpensive now, unless you're someone (or someone's wife) who has been hoodwinked into shopping at WholeFoods for "organic" food, which is a bigger scam than anything Donald Trump ever perpetuated.

Thus the denominator in that 3:1 ratio queers the analysis.
   319. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:31 PM (#5530342)
Indeed. Follow people "living in poverty" around and see how much they spend on cigarettes, booze, slot machines, lottery tickets, air conditioning, smartphones, SportsCenter, junk food.

Oh, yes, the tried-and-true "welfare queens" lie.


I need to find the thread where Little Lord Fauntle-ray expressed surprise to find out how vigorous the second-hand market for purportedly pricy luxury goods was. "$70 for an Xbox with a dozen games? Poppycock!" I think he called the cops to find out who this Craig guy was who was obviously fencing stolen goods nationwide.

I do like the idea, or at least the mental picture, of our Little Lord following around some Poors to document their spendthrift ways, clucking his tongue and shaking his head sadly with each walk to McDonalds. "Why for $8 you can buy a 50lb sack of vitamin-fortified flour and survive for a month!"
   320. Lassus Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:31 PM (#5530343)
Indeed "asserted" is not "explained".

Geez Louise, what a grump. I explained what it was that I considered an upshot.


"It makes it easier to lose your earpieces." & "It makes it harder to keep everything charged" are not upsides, which are basically what "lack of cord" means.

It means less likely to rip the cord off them or damage the connection between the cord and the jack or the cord and the headphones. Fewer replacement requirements. I've never lost headphones, just broken them, so.
   321. BrianBrianson Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5530345)
Uhm, Ray, if food is wildly inexpensive (true), and a roof over your head is increasing way above inflation (true), ditto sawbones - then 3X food means our poverty line is moving downwards in real terms.
   322. dlf Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5530346)
Food is wildly inexpensive now ... Thus the denominator in that 3:1 ratio queers the analysis.


So you are arguing that the poverty line is too low and we should have more people who are deemed impoverished? That seems to be counter to many of your other posts on the issue including those in this thread.
   323. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5530347)
Cords suck and are always getting tangled. It is awesome to not have to worry about them.


I would rather deal with a hundred cords than with one extra device that needs to be recharged. My home computer has a wireless mouse and keyboard, and I hate them both. It seems like I have to put new batteries in those ####### things every two weeks.

For that matter, you could make my current phone four times as thick as it currently is, and if that gave it 25% more battery power, I'd consider it a bargain.
   324. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5530348)
As an addendum to #317 above the generic ballot is at +9.4 (Democratic favoring).

Not a bad place to be, but things could change.
   325. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:38 PM (#5530350)
My home computer has a wireless mouse and keyboard, and I hate them both.


I here they still sell non wireless versions of these very things (in fact this post is created using them).

I don't love charging things, but if it lasts long enough for a use cycle (how long that is depends on the device, obviously) and I can easily establish a habit of charging then it is all god. Things that don't make it (die too soon) or die erratically (like you wireless keyboard) can be really annoying.

My Fitbit gets charged while I shower every day. My workout ear buds (and case) get charged when I reserve a workout slot here at work. My work station headphones get recharged when I am at a meeting or away from my desk for a fair amount of time. If it is an easy habit charging them is no problem.

Working at my desk or working out with cords ends up in broken horror and embarrassment (slight exaggeration).
   326. BrianBrianson Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:38 PM (#5530351)
It's no different, really, than the current drive to be lighter, lighter, lighter, even though phones regularly float away if there's a gentle breeze, and the only real problem is the battery lives are way too short. If only there was a solution ...

Sure, and outhouse in the middle of your kitchen is convenient when you need to take a leak. But in any practical sense, it's all downside. "Earphones would be better if children and pets were constantly eating them" is not a sensible position.
   327. Lassus Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:41 PM (#5530353)
"Earphones would be better if children and pets were constantly eating them" is not a sensible position.

I suppose you could at least use the cord to pull the headphones back out, so that's a positive.
   328. BDC Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:43 PM (#5530354)
Spend a year living on $12,060

I did live on roughly that for a year after my divorce, which was acutely expensive. Cancelled my life insurance, stopped traveling, lived in a small student apartment and walked to work, whittled back my bills to cheap cellphone, cheap car insurance, and massive alimony (where they remain). Didn't have a TV that year: listened to the World Series on the radio. Walked to the Ballpark and paid $6 for upper-deck seats.

I was healthy and happy (and lucky not to get sick). A lot of the happiness, though, was in having a job where I could set my own schedule, and not have to take a wage hit every time I went in for one of my dental cleanings. I wasn't playing at poverty, but I had the resource of sheer time to help me cope. And I could see that the treadmill would eventually slow, and I would step off. Many people can't, no matter how much folks want to insist that wealth is just a matter of sound financial planning.
   329. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:45 PM (#5530356)
I here they still sell non wireless versions of these very things (in fact this post is created using them).


They were a gift from my parents, who thought they were doing something nice, and I'm not going to hurt their feelings.
   330. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:46 PM (#5530357)
I find it amusingly annoying that "quality of the phone" is absolutely irrelevant in the advancing technology of the so-called mobile phone.
Well, first, nobody uses phones for phoning. And second, there's not really room for improvement (except for the networks that they're on).
   331. The Good Face Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:48 PM (#5530360)
They were a gift from my parents, who thought they were doing something nice, and I'm not going to hurt their feelings.


Move out of their basement and you can use whatever keyboard/mouse you like without them knowing you've shitcanned the ones they gave you.
   332. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:48 PM (#5530361)
... and the only real problem is ...


Not everyone has the exact same needs and desires that I do.
   333. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:50 PM (#5530363)
Food is wildly inexpensive now, unless you're someone (or someone's wife) who has been hoodwinked into shopping at WholeFoods for "organic" food, which is a bigger scam than anything Donald Trump ever perpetuated.

Thus the denominator in that 3:1 ratio queers the analysis.
More Ray BS that has no basis in fact.

By the general CPI, $100 in 1963 = $805.22 today.

But for food alone, $100 in 1963 = $802.73 today.

There is no "queering" of the analysis.
   334. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:01 PM (#5530369)
Move out of their basement and you can use whatever keyboard/mouse you like without them knowing you've shitcanned the ones they gave you.


a) I already own a house, thanks.
b) Unlike some people, I prefer not to be an #######. Particularly to the people who taught me how to walk and read and use a toilet.
   335. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:03 PM (#5530370)
nd I could see that the treadmill would eventually slow, and I would step off. Many people can't, no matter how much folks want to insist that wealth is just a matter of sound financial planning.


It (not "wealth" per se but an adequate income) is a matter of sound life planning.

For everyone in this country, other than those who are not of sound mind or body.
   336. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:06 PM (#5530371)
That's some quality trolling on this page, Ray. Top notch. Top notch!
   337. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:13 PM (#5530373)
Earphones would be better if children and pets were constantly eating them

But then that would push the cost of food higher thereby setting the 3X multiplier for poverty even higher still.
   338. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:15 PM (#5530374)
and his stated position that adults do not have the right to stimulate their own genitals for sexual satisfaction.
That was not his stated position. It was the position of the state of Texas that the federal constitution does not protect such.
   339. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:17 PM (#5530375)
The cost of SSDs has stayed flat or gone up in the last year. My understanding is prices aren't expected to go down anytime soon, mostly due to demand in every application: from phone to desktop to server farm. That said, Apple absolutely gouges you on storage. Same story on their laptops. As yous said, they want you to use iCloud.
That's just silly. They make far more off hardware than they do off iCloud.
   340. The Good Face Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:19 PM (#5530376)
a) I already own a house, thanks.
b) Unlike some people, I prefer not to be an #######. Particularly to the people who taught me how to walk and read and use a toilet.


Ok, use a keyboard/mouse you hate because you don't want to hurt Mommy and Daddy's feelings, even though they'd have no way of knowing what keyboard or mouse you're using because you've totally got your own place and don't live in their basement. That's a super normal and reasonable thing to do.

It (not "wealth" per se but an adequate income) is a matter of sound life planning.

For everyone in this country, other than those who are not of sound mind or body.


Ray, stupid people do stupid things. That's what it is to be stupid, and you can't fix stupid by telling people to make better life choices. More importantly, it's not their fault they're stupid. Maybe they drew a lousy genetic hand, maybe their parents deprived them of stimuli, or hit them in the noggin too often, or maybe they just ate a lot of lead paint chips as toddlers. Whatever the cause, they can't engage in sound life planning for reasons beyond their control. Cut those people some slack. No need to valorize them and reward them for their failures like the lefties, but punishing them is unnecessarily cruel.
   341. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:20 PM (#5530377)
Eschewing Bluetooth headphones seems akin to eschewing indoor plumbing, but YMMV.
No. Bluetooth headphones are stupid and suck. Why on earth do I want headphones that need to be recharged all the time?

EDIT: Cokes.
   342. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:22 PM (#5530378)
They make far more off hardware than they do off iCloud.
But I would guess their marginal profits are higher from iCloud - once the infrastructure (servers) is there, it doesn't cost them anything, or at least very little, to add you.
   343. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:23 PM (#5530380)
Betsy DeVos is an ideologue with a serious contempt for public schools,
Even if that were true -- and it isn't; she's a big fan of charter schools, which are public -- so what? As opposed to the standard Democrat being bought-and-paid-for by the teachers' unions?
   344. zenbitz Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:25 PM (#5530382)
Ha, you kid. We only valorize the brown ones.
   345. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:25 PM (#5530383)
Ok, use a keyboard/mouse you hate because you don't want to hurt Mommy and Daddy's feelings, even though they'd have no way of knowing what keyboard or mouse you're using because you've totally got your own place and don't live in their basement.


We do live in the same town, and they come over for dinner a couple times a month, because I'm a normal person who enjoys spending time with his family instead of some weird internet edgelord with daddy issues that can be seen from outer space.

I am, however, flattered that you were able to fit me into your busy schedule of calculating the skull shape and volume of brown people and obsessing over Sam's weight.
   346. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:26 PM (#5530385)
Bluetooth headphones allow you to be active while using headphones. Plug in phones are not convenient if you're active.
   347. The Good Face Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:27 PM (#5530386)
Ha, you kid. We only valorize the brown ones.


Haha, only serious.
   348. BrianBrianson Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:28 PM (#5530387)
Bluetooth headphones allow you to be active while using headphones. Plug in phones are not convenient if you're active.


I didn't realise we had Jackie Chan in our midst. I'm honoured.
   349. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:28 PM (#5530388)
I here they still sell non wireless versions of these very things (in fact this post is created using them).

They were a gift from my parents, who thought they were doing something nice, and I'm not going to hurt their feelings.
Refer your parents to me; I have no qualms about hurting their feelings..
   350. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:29 PM (#5530389)
That was not his stated position. It was the position of the state of Texas that the federal constitution does not protect such.


A position that was conceived and co-written by Cruz, and then pursued on appeal after the court rejected his reasoning.
   351. Srul Itza Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:30 PM (#5530391)
Kelsey Grammer and the cast and crew on the NBC spinoff series Frasier landed a total of 108 nominations and 37 wins. During its 1993 to 2004 run, it won the outstanding comedy series award five times.


That is the second most emmys ever, second only to Saturday Night Live.

   352. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:31 PM (#5530392)
Bluetooth headphones allow you to be active while using headphones. Plug in phones are not convenient if you're active.


Bluetooth headphones allow you to lose your earbud down a storm drain if you use them while you're active.
   353. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:32 PM (#5530393)
Betsy DeVos is an ideologue with a serious contempt for public schools,

Even if that were true -- and it isn't; she's a big fan of charter schools, which are public -- so what? As opposed to the standard Democrat being bought-and-paid-for by the teachers' unions?


I'm heading out, but I'll let Diane Ravitch respond to that:

An Open Letter to Senator Lamar Alexander Regarding Betsy DeVos
   354. I Am Merely a Fake Lawyer Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:33 PM (#5530394)
We only valorize the brown ones.


Well, you certainly do do that. And by so doing, you don't treat them equally to white people, but as fundamentally different than white people.

Better, perhaps -- but still different.

   355. The Good Face Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:34 PM (#5530396)
We do live in the same town, and they come over for dinner a couple times a month,


And god forbid they don't see the precious mouse and keyboard they gifted you with in a place of prominence! Starting to see where you get your issues from...

I'm a normal person who enjoys spending time with his family instead of some weird internet edgelord with daddy issues that can be seen from outer space.


That is some projection. You use a keyboard/mouse you hate because you're afraid of Mommy and Daddy getting hurt fee-fees even though you insist they don't live with you, but sure, I'm the weirdo with daddy issues. Maybe you could spend some of your big boy money on a therapist and learn how to communicate honestly and openly with your parents instead of living in fear of them.
   356. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:34 PM (#5530398)
Yeah there's active and there's ACTIVE. I can wear them while playing golf if i need to drown out unwanted noise.
   357. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:36 PM (#5530399)
Ray, stupid people do stupid things. That's what it is to be stupid, and you can't fix stupid by telling people to make better life choices. More importantly, it's not their fault they're stupid. Maybe they drew a lousy genetic hand, maybe their parents deprived them of stimuli, or hit them in the noggin too often, or maybe they just ate a lot of lead paint chips as toddlers. Whatever the cause, they can't engage in sound life planning for reasons beyond their control. Cut those people some slack. No need to valorize them and reward them for their failures like the lefties, but punishing them is unnecessarily cruel.

Do you mind if I borrow this?

I'm teaching some first years the basics of political ideology and for Conservative/Liberal/Socialist I was going to focus on inequality.

Conservative - inequality exists, which is a bummer, those with means have a moral obligation to look after those without
Liberal - inequality exists, hooray! It's a manifestation of your own talent...good for you!
Socialist - inequality exists, the horror! It must be eliminated.

I was just going to use paternalistic ancien regime aristocracies as an example of conservatism, but the above is perhaps couched in more modern terms that the students might appreciate.
   358. I Am Merely a Fake Lawyer Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:40 PM (#5530402)
The philosophical question posed is, "Why should people have to plan their lives so as to best meet the whims of capital?" (*) And then secondly, "What if the plan worked well for ages, say 20-45, but then the whims of capital changed?"

(*) To which the answer might be, "To provide for oneself the necessities of survival," at which point the question becomes, "Why should survival be subject to the whims of capital?"
   359. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:40 PM (#5530403)
A position that was conceived and co-written by Cruz, and then pursued on appeal after the court rejected his reasoning.
The position was conceived by the Texas legislature, which passed the law in question. As the state's solicitor general, Cruz had an ethical professional obligation to defend the state's law unless he concluded that the arguments in favor of doing so were frivolous, which they were not. Greg Abbott, then the AG, made the decision to appeal the case.
   360. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:41 PM (#5530404)
You've flipped conservative and liberal.
   361. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:41 PM (#5530406)
My dad gave me a Kindle for Christmas once...I haven't used it in years, but sometimes when I'm at my parents' place I take it out of my old bedroom closet and leave it lying around as if I use it.

Though I don't think he'd mind. He was far more proud of the leather sleeve he had made than the Kindle itself. He had bought a single, knee-high woman's leather boot at Goodwill (a story he loves telling), and had a leather-worker hack it up to be a custom made sleeve for the Kindle. I kind of feel bad that I haven't made more use of it.
   362. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:43 PM (#5530407)
You've flipped conservative and liberal.

As I've always said, if it happened after 1919 I usually missed it.

I think you guys have done the flipping.
   363. DJS, the Digital Dandy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:43 PM (#5530408)
I'm heading out, but I'll let Diane Ravitch respond to that:

Notice how Ravitch doesn't volunteer anything she's done *since* then, in an attempt to burnish her fake-moderate credentials. Oh, she worked for Bush and Alexander! She must be a principled conservative and even she see's how it's wrong. It's not like she just wrote a book called "Reign of Error: The Hoax of the Privatization Movement and the Danger to America's Public Schools" or anything like "The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education," she's just an impartial observer of the whole system! And she certainly wouldn't be the co-founder of an organization with the stated primary purpose of stopping charter schools or anything.

But typical Andy, who when he bothers to pretend to respond directly to an argument, simply copies-and-paste the opinion of a third party he agrees with as if it were some trump card. Make your own ####### argument, if you can.
   364. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:45 PM (#5530410)
The position was conceived by the Texas legislature, which passed the law in question. As the state's solicitor general, Cruz had an ethical professional obligation to defend the state's law unless he concluded that the arguments in favor of doing so were frivolous, which they were not. Greg Abbott, then the AG, made the decision to appeal the case.


It's amazing that people don't understand this.
   365. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:46 PM (#5530411)
Oh Greg you trapped me! You rascal!
   366. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:48 PM (#5530412)
And god forbid they don't see the precious mouse and keyboard they gifted you with in a place of prominence!


You realize that it's really weird for you to be so emotionally invested in this, right? You don't have anything better to do in your life than second-guess what keyboard and mouse a stranger on the internet uses?

That is some projection.


No, it's really not. You have obvious and deep-seated feelings of insecurity, and so you try to bully people who make you feel inferior like everyone's still in grade school, which is sad and pathetic. It's probably really uncomfortable for the other people in the thread to watch you drag your naked insecurities around and shove them right up in their faces like that.

But it's no use. People can tell that you're terrified of being seen as being weak. Everybody already knows! You might as well have it tattooed on your forehead.
   367. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:49 PM (#5530413)

It is like the people who write USG. No one calls it the United States government. It is the US, or the USA.

KSA is equivalent to USA. And Saudi or Saudi Arabia are used a half-dozen times in that post.

But lets talk consumer reports.
   368. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:49 PM (#5530414)
As the state's solicitor general, Cruz had an ethical professional obligation to defend the state's law unless he concluded that the arguments in favor of doing so were frivolous, which they were not.


Those last four words are the part where your argument went off the rails, fell into a ditch, and burst into flames.
   369. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:51 PM (#5530415)
KSA is equivalent to USA.

I'd say UK would be the more instructive example.

I'm mostly used to KSA from World Cup Soccer. KSA makes sense to avoid any confusion with RSA.
   370. Omineca Greg Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:56 PM (#5530416)
I think you guys have done the flipping.

Yep. Although Canadian politics are becoming more like the American as time goes on, there's still a residue from our earlier days.

Although I'm not in love with your Liberal definition, it sort of implies that Liberals are happy with social inequality. They aren't, they just don't place much emphasis on eliminating it. It's a problem to be managed.

How 'bout "The Conservatives feel an ethical calling to help the lower classes, the Liberals do it for more pragmatic reasons." Would that be fair?

And like I mentioned, Toryism is dying, our Conservative Party is becoming more like Blue State Republicans every day.

   371. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 06:01 PM (#5530417)
Yeah, yours would be the non-glib version.

And these kids are paying me to talk at them, so I may as well be as precise as possible!
   372. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 12, 2017 at 06:05 PM (#5530419)
could only lead to futile massacres and a regime of savage repression.

I really liked Nocturama. The future is now.
   373. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 06:51 PM (#5530426)
Oh, Canadian. Apples and oranges.
   374. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:01 PM (#5530428)
Wait ... Wait ... what? No, not a rerun. Your Modern GOP folks.

GOP lawmakers jittery over lack of tax reform details

Congressional Republicans came back to Washington ready and eager to work on tax reform, but they’re still missing one thing: a plan.

That’s triggered frustration among rank-and-file lawmakers who feel pressure from President Donald Trump to pass a tax reform bill but have seen no plans and worry they’ll be backed into a corner on legislation they haven’t even seen, much like they were with the failed Obamacare repeal earlier this summer.

“This time around there is no room for error. This has got to be a home run,” Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.) said, recalling the GOP's Obamacare fiasco. “I would hope everyone wants to know what’s in it before you vote on it. That’s the old [Nancy] Pelosi joke on health care, it turned into a colossal joke. ‘You’ll find out what’s in it after we pass it.’”

A member of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, speaking on condition of anonymity to speak freely said, “It is frustrating and concerning that we don’t have the details and yet we’re going to be asked in 60 days to vote on something,”


Yes, this is pretty much how ACA repeal ran. With luck this will work out just as well. :)
   375. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:46 PM (#5530433)
That's just silly. They make far more off hardware than they do off iCloud.


One word: Steam. Do you know why everybody and their god damn brother in tech is about "software as as service" and "micro-transactions"?

Because there's gold in 'dem hills and it's for life. Right now they make more off hardware than iCloud, but hardware is fickle. Ecosystems are for life. Apple is rightly worried that one day the iPhone won't be a hot commodity, but if you're already tied to the ecosystem you won't have much choice when it comes to buy a new phone.

One of the services I usually decline to offer at my biz is personal info management (PIM). It's a nightmare. Getting Outlook to sync perfectly with your iPhone? Good luck. Getting your iTunes library out of iTunes and into an alt like Media Monkey? Good luck. You can't pay me enough to do troubleshoot and wade through that crap. It's part of the reason I left my IT job in NYC. Doing that #### on my own time is bad enough. Doing it on some needy execs time is even worse.

Apple knows that once you buy music on the Apple Store, once you store your photos on iCloud you aren't switching, at least the vast majority aren't. It ensures you'll be customer for life in ways simply selling the latest gadgets does not.

Anyways, when you buy a new Macbook Pro Apple will charge you about $2 per gigabyte of storage upgrade. Even with SSD prices flat or rising that's absurd. A 128GB 2017 MBP is $1299. A 256GB version, everything else same, is $1499. So they make it coming and going. They make money on the absurd hardware markup, then they make it on the cloud services. Like most things post Jobs, Apple was woefully late on cloud services, and in fact still does not offer an online office suite or colab software. They don't offer any of the CRM or cloud hosting that Google and Amazon offer, and they rely on Google (last I could find) to host most of their iCloud storage.

Amazon beat them to the punch on the biz to biz side, and Google ate their lunch on consumer products like storage and office.

Because of this, Apple is vulnerable to disruption in ways Google and Amazon are not, their reliance on hardware margins for profit, especially on the iPhone, is not sustainable long horizon. Apple is vulnerable to both rising production costs and consumer fickleness. I suspect they know this, don't know what to do about it, and is why they horde so much cash, in hopes that one day soon they'll know what to spend it on. For example, buying up "incubators" or perhaps half of the communist party in China.
   376. Omineca Greg Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:55 PM (#5530435)
.

   377. Omineca Greg Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:59 PM (#5530436)
Oh, Canadian. Apples and oranges.


I think Mr K. was referring more to the Whig/Tory/Liberal/Conservative thing in 19th century British politics. It had a much bigger influence on our politics than yours (for obvious reasons). Eventually, we went our own way, and things started to evolve differently than in the UK. I was the one that brought Canada into it. All very interesting. I don't have much knowledge of UK politics, but I do know that Benjamin Disraeli looks a little like Captain Beefheart and Pitt The Younger looks like Leif Garrett. So...I am good for something...

Trout Mask One-Nation Conservatism.

   378. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:05 PM (#5530438)
It wouldn't be nearly as funny if he weren't being hoist by his own petard, given his past remarks about the damage done by the "pornography epidemic" in America and his stated position that adults do not have the right to stimulate their own genitals for sexual satisfaction.

Maybe he was just watching it for the cinematography, rather than out of any prurient interest?


Guy was literally jerking off remembering 9/11. That's the most Republican thing ever.
   379. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:09 PM (#5530439)
The problem, as I see it, with assuming that poor people are undeservingly poor is that no matter how you slice and dice it, the system dictates that there have to be poor people. Maybe you can squeeze a little more juice out of the turnip here and there, but the poor, as the most intelligent man in The Bible says, you will always have with you. So, starting with that, now what?
   380. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:20 PM (#5530442)
It wouldn't be nearly as funny if he weren't being hoist by his own petard, given his past remarks about the damage done by the "pornography epidemic" in America and his stated position that adults do not have the right to stimulate their own genitals for sexual satisfaction.

Maybe he was just watching it for the cinematography, rather than out of any prurient interest?


What makes it even more deliciously satiric is that the English "petard" has it's origins perhaps in the French peter (break wind). Greg K may want to correct me on this since he's a native of a country that bilingual in English and French. But it makes imagining Cruz hoisted by his own petard even richer.
   381. Howie Menckel Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:56 PM (#5530455)
channel-surfed my way to the last few seconds of a "Benghazi: Five Years Later" segment on Tucker Carlson's Fox show. then he teased the next segment with a professor who because of criticism of the SPLC was labeled a "white supremacist." the professor is African-American.

you cannot make it up, folks
   382. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:01 PM (#5530460)
That is my understanding, a "petard" being a small bomb used to blow a hole in a wall. The breaking wind part fits...demolition-men always have had an earthy sense of humour.

But as always, it is best to run to the OED.

1598 J. Florio Worlde of Wordes A squib or petard of gun powder vsed to burst vp gates or doores with.
c1650 J. Row & J. Row Hist. Kirk Scotl. (1842) 511 The noblemen, with a pittard brake up the utter gate of the Castle of Edinburgh.


OED also recognizes petard as a verb:

1621 Knolles's Gen. Hist. Turkes (ed. 3) 1307 They resolued to petarde the castle.
1654 Z. Coke Art of Logick Ep. Ded. sig. a6v The prayers of the Saints ascending with you, will Petarr your entrances through heavens Portcullis.


And finally, in more recent times, you have the verb "to petard" in the Shakespearean sense:

1946 Sat. Rev. Lit. (U.S.) 19 Oct. 25/3 Petarded on his own cliché And violently hurled, Should be the Joe whose one bon mot Is ‘It's out of this world!’


OED appears to be silent on the "breaking wind" front, only going so far as to say that it comes from the Middle French word for an explosive designed to clear an obstacle. But, I'm assuming the French word itself is the product of some engineer's joke, the wind story seems to be confirmed from multiple other sources.
   383. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:04 PM (#5530461)
Hey, cool, Greg. Thanks.
   384. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:08 PM (#5530463)
We also have:

Petarder - one who uses, or shoots off a petard
Petardier - a soldier in charge of a petard
Petarding - the act of setting off petards (we've got Thomas Carlyle for this last one: "A ‘wicker Figure’..is promenaded,..then solemnly consumed by fire,..with such petarding and huzzaing.")

The related "petarading" is a series of farts. Or as Cotgrave in his Dictionary of French and English Tongues (1611) puts it, "a gunshot of farting".
   385. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:17 PM (#5530468)
Cotgrave's dictionary is available online and has some fun ones.

OED actually sells Cotgrave short. His full entry for "Petarading": A gunshot of farting; also a horse's kicking, winsing, or yerking out behind, accompanied, for the most part, with farting.

Also:

Pedantizer - To pedantize it, or play the Pedant; to domineer over lads; also, to inkhornize it.

I like that one.
   386. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:17 PM (#5530469)
How many times have you applied for a job at Fox, Howie?
   387. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:21 PM (#5530471)
Repeatedly, but they keep telling him Hank Azaria is going to continue to do the voice of Comic Book Guy.
   388. zenbitz Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:22 PM (#5530474)
Pedantizer - To pedantize it, or play the Pedant; to domineer over lads; also, to inkhornize it.


The act of Nierporentation.
   389. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:23 PM (#5530476)
OK, last one, I promise. Cotgrave also has the translation of some popular French proverbs of the time:


Bon advocat mauvais Voisin:
a good Lawyer an euill neighbour.

Celuy gouverne bien mal le miel qui n'en taste, & ses doigts n'en leche:
we say, he is an ill Cooke that lickes not his owne fingers; One may say, he is vnwise, who in the managing of publicke businesse addes not somewhat vnto his priuate.
   390. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:29 PM (#5530478)
I lied....in skimming the OED I have come across the word "idiopt" which apparently means "colour blind". The first OED entry is the guy in 1833 who coined the term. As far as I can tell every other use of the word in the English language (starting almost immediately after it was introduced) is to point how idiotic the term idiopt is.
   391. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:31 PM (#5530479)
I knew a lot of the English stuff. It's whether there was a French etymology (first "pet" and "peter") leading to the English petard that would add a double dose of humor to the vernacular expression. I knew the French has been used to inform the English but I wasn't clear on whether it had been traced definitively or not. So, the Canadian English use of the phrase isn't ever used sardonically with the French meaning in mind?
   392. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:34 PM (#5530481)
Betsy DeVos is an ideologue with a serious contempt for public schools, which is likely the reason you show up at her doorstep every Saturday night bearing candy and flowers. My problem with her has nothing to do with her take on campus sex codes, which I totally agree are too often skewed towards encouraging "recovered memory" type accusations.

I share your low opinion of DeVos, but what does that really have to do with the article, which, I don't think, has anything to do with "recovered memory". It's more the morning-after recovered sense of morals and self-entitlement (if I feel bad, a man done me wrong).
   393. Howie Menckel Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:41 PM (#5530486)
How many times have you applied for a job at Fox, Howie?

can someone translate this into English?
   394. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:55 PM (#5530500)
We Asked People Lining Up for Hillary Clinton’s Book One Simple Question: "What Happened?"

Interesting comments by people who voted for Clinton.

Elisa Petrini, 50+, writer, New York
Voted for Hillary in the primary and the general


I think it was a perfect storm of things. It was gerrymandering, it was voter suppression, it was demonization by Bernie, it was demonization by Trump, it was Russian interference, it was hacking, it was everything. But I think above all, it was that Hillary has been demonized for 30 years. A lot of it is sexism, a lot of it has been sexism from the beginning. I mean the way she was attacked as Bill's wife, for being the first president in history who had a wife who has an actual job and thought that she was going to make a meaningful contribution. She was attacked for that and told that she should be baking brownies and had to change her hairdo and all that stuff because she thought that she could have a role. I think that people are so ambivalent about the role of women and Hillary will never be forgiven for being female. Alas!


Comments like this kind of make me shudder. Not sure if it's because they hit a bullseye or because of what it says about the grievances, imagined or real, that people nurse to their bosom.
   395. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:56 PM (#5530501)
So, the Canadian English use of the phrase isn't ever used sardonically with the French meaning in mind?

It's possible with English-Canadians who live among French-Canadians (ie. in Montreal or Ottawa), in which case Ron J, I think, would be a good one to ask.

Unfortunately I, like most English-speaking Canadians, have about as much to do with the French as your average citizen of Ohio. With the exception of mandatory French and English food labels. Need to know what a grapefruit is in French, I'm your man!
   396. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:57 PM (#5530502)
Betsy DeVos is an ideologue with a serious contempt for public schools, which is likely the reason you show up at her doorstep every Saturday night bearing candy and flowers. My problem with her has nothing to do with her take on campus sex codes, which I totally agree are too often skewed towards encouraging "recovered memory" type accusations.

I share your low opinion of DeVos, but what does that really have to do with the article, which, I don't think, has anything to do with "recovered memory". It's more the morning-after recovered sense of morals and self-entitlement (if I feel bad, a man done me wrong).


My point there was about the number of incidents where sexual encounters that seemed consensual are later transformed into rape accusations. "Recovered memory" was just my sarcastic way of putting it.
   397. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:00 PM (#5530504)
Bluetooth headphones allow you to be active while using headphones. Plug in phones are not convenient if you're active.
Hello? Wired headphones are fine for being active.
   398. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:04 PM (#5530506)
I cant swing a golf club with wired headphones on. The wires get in the way of a lot.
   399. Joe Bivens will never admit, will make some excuse Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:05 PM (#5530508)
393...anyone who watches Fox News is an idiot. Does that need translation?
   400. Morty Causa Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:05 PM (#5530509)
Page 4 of 18 pages ‹ First  < 2 3 4 5 6 >  Last ›

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Backlasher
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogKelvin Herrera Trade Start of Something Big for Nationals
(4 - 2:21pm, Jun 19)
Last: ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

NewsblogOTP 2018 June 18: How Life Imitates the Congressional Baseball Game
(448 - 2:21pm, Jun 19)
Last: Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant

NewsblogOT - 2018 NBA Summer Potpourri (finals, draft, free agency, Colangelo dragging)
(1229 - 2:21pm, Jun 19)
Last: Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington

NewsblogSoccer? OMNICHATTER hardly knows'er! for June 19, 2018.
(19 - 2:16pm, Jun 19)
Last: Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!)

NewsblogFormer MLB pitcher Kevin Brown reportedly held two mail thieves at gunpoint until police arrived
(174 - 2:16pm, Jun 19)
Last: David Nieporent (now, with children)

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-19-2018
(43 - 2:05pm, Jun 19)
Last: SoSH U at work

NewsblogDodgers' surprise ace makes All-Star case in win over Giants
(97 - 1:49pm, Jun 19)
Last: McCoy

NewsblogOT - Catch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (April - June 2018)
(3755 - 1:37pm, Jun 19)
Last: Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!)

NewsblogOT: Soccer Thread (World Cup)
(569 - 1:19pm, Jun 19)
Last: J. Sosa

NewsblogIt's not a crime when OMNICHATTER does it! for June 18, 2018
(80 - 1:14pm, Jun 19)
Last: Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington

Sox TherapyA Pleasant Trip So Far
(9 - 1:07pm, Jun 19)
Last: Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine

NewsblogGrumpy Gossage Napalms His Bridges:BWitz:NYT (reg req.)
(74 - 12:27pm, Jun 19)
Last: Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!)

NewsblogJuan Soto Makes His Second MLB Debut Tonight
(18 - 12:20pm, Jun 19)
Last: Mike Emeigh

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1944 Discussion
(10 - 12:16pm, Jun 19)
Last: MrC.

Gonfalon CubsClicking
(52 - 12:16pm, Jun 19)
Last: Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington

Page rendered in 0.6943 seconds
46 querie(s) executed