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OTP 2018 August 13: ‘Don’t confuse sports with politics,’ Kosovo tells Bosnia

Kosovo’s team was scheduled to play against the Bosnia and Herzegovina side on Thursday, the first day of the tournament which runs until August 16.

However the Kosovo Basketball Federation (FBK) told local media that by late Wednesday it still had not received an answer from Bosnia’s nearest embassy in Skopje, the capital of Macedonia, about the status of the team’s visa applications.

(As always, views expressed in the article lede and comments are the views of the individual commenters and the submitter of the article and do not represent the views of Baseball Think Factory or its owner.)

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   1. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:15 AM (#5725579)
Former White House Aide Mentirosa Mariposa Omorosa Releases a Secret Recording of Fat Sniveling Bumbler

So very alpha. "I didn't know you were fired! Nobody told me! Don't hurt me!"
   2. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:18 AM (#5725581)
Is this the new Central Park Softball Game thread?

Paging Greg K...
   3. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:19 AM (#5725582)
Kosovo’s team was scheduled to play against the Bosnia and Herzegovina side on Thursday, the first day of the tournament which runs until August 16.

However the Kosovo Basketball Federation (FBK) told local media that by late Wednesday it still had not received an answer from Bosnia’s nearest embassy in Skopje, the capital of Macedonia, about the status of the team’s visa applications.

Just give them all guns and bombs and settle it that way. Basketball is for sissies.
   4. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:21 AM (#5725583)
The utter collapse of Donald Trump's 'best people' boast

Already, 57% of Trump's "A Team" staffers have left the White House in just its first year and a half, according to statistics maintained by Brookings Institute's Kathryn Dunn Tenpas. That nearly equals the turnover among top staffers for the entire first terms of Barack Obama (71% turnover), George W. Bush (63%), Bill Clinton (74%) and George H.W. Bush (66%).

(Tenpas' data may actually undersell the changes in Trump's administration, given that she only counts one departure for each office. So, while Trump has had five communications directors since being elected President, they only count as one departure in Tenpas' calculations.)

Focusing just on Cabinet secretaries, the numbers are equally stunning for Trump. He's already seen seven Cabinet officials -- three in his first year, four in his second -- leave in his first 18 months in office. Obama had zero Cabinet departures in his first year and four in his second. George W. Bush lost only four Cabinet members in the entirety of his first four years.

Again, those numbers may underestimate the chaos of Trump's Cabinet. His second pick to be the Secretary of Veterans Affairs -- White House physician Ronny Jackson -- was forced to withdraw after a series of negative stories about his conduct on the job emerged. Trump has clashed with Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen over border security. He has reportedly derided Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross as "past his prime" in meetings.


Administrations seem to reflect their president in many ways, and the current one is certainly no exception.
   5. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:26 AM (#5725587)
I doubt I'm going to get tired of the Omerosa fiasco any time soon...

If nothing else, I think I've finally figured out why people like "reality TV".

I never watched Trump's 1st or 2nd game show - this 3rd reboot, you kind of have no choice - but like any pop culture consumer I was familiar with the name (Full Disclosure: Until she began working for the Clown Campaign, I thought 'Omerosa' was some kind of leitmotif and her real name was something like Amber Rosa)... I did, however, watch a few episodes of Survivor in its first season or two - mainly to see what all the fuss was about (human suffering and sports bras... as I suspected) - and to the extent that gives me any insight, it seems obvious to me that people watch for (beyond human suffering and sports bras) the villains. I doubt people watched for Trump's catch phrase any more than they watched for what's his name wearing cargo shorts and awarding the immunity idol.

Anyhoo... Congress already has one reality TV person, so it just seemed all the more stupid that a reality TV host would bring another RTVS to DC... especially one whose main claim to fame seems to be ridiculous villainy.

And despite the girl spicey caterwauling, this RTVS was very much given a platform... like most spokespeople for a Presidential campaign are. It's not the media or the public's fault she used to mostly to make ridiculous statements like "Trump's enemies will bow down to him". They likewise certainly made sure she ended up in every photo op and meeting picture.

So now, someone whose main talent appears to be public villainy for the cameras is... turning on them and playing public villainy for the cameras?

The whole lot of them can rot... I'm just gonna keep enjoying the show - it took me nearly 20 years to appreciate this phenomenon - it would be cruel to say that this one shouldn't count.
   6. Hysterical & Useless Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:39 AM (#5725592)
what's his name wearing cargo shorts


We never had that many spectators at the softball game, and not more than one or two of them were there specifically to see Lassus.
   7. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:50 AM (#5725603)
BTW, Air Force One is landing at the Former Griffiss AFB, which is where I am currently employed. The fundraising dinner for Tenney that Trump is going to be at is taking place at the Hotel Utica, which is about as surprising as snow in April, there's really nowhere else it could have happened.

Here's the schedule. He's apparently signing an increase in military pay at Ft. Drum, I guess.

In other AAA political news, challenger Brindisi is weighing very heavily in this area on his I DON'T SUPPORT PELOSI position. He's running as a centrist, which in this area is probably a good idea, and it's probably true. It's in all his ads. THAT'S WHY I DON'T SUPPORT PELOSI. I'm surprised he doesn't have Pelosi gifs all over his homepage.
   8. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:53 AM (#5725606)
what's his name wearing cargo shorts
We never had that many spectators at the softball game, and not more than one or two of them were there specifically to see Lassus.


While everyone's attention to the area of my crotch and ass is gratifying, I'm pretty sure people were just disappointed that the only person who brings a girl wasn't there.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 10:52 AM (#5725645)
I don't know the backstory, but I'll bet it's intriguing. I think Sherrill is one of the "can flip a seat to D" candidates. kind of a "man bites dog" item given the prevailing winds these days

Herb Jackson
‏Verified account @HerbNJDC
19m19 minutes ago

Mark Dunec, who ran as Democrat against @USRepRodney in 2014, endorses @JayWebberNJ, the GOP candidate battling @MikieSherrill to succeed Frelinghuysen. Dunec cites concerns that Democrats have 'embraced a socialist ideology' and do not support Israel enough
   10. I am going to be Frank Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:12 AM (#5725673)
I'm in Frelinghuysen's district. Sherrill has been running a fair amount of TV ads, prominently featuring her military background. She's was a military helicopter pilot and it's getting to the point where it's approaching "09/11 and Guiliani" levels of prominence part of her biography. I probably voted for Dunec four years ago, but like all Democrats in this district, it was pointless - this district voted for Trump.

She's white, (relatively) youthful former prosecutor with the aforementioned military background should be good enough to overcome the structural disadvantages of the district. A sizable portion of the district is very rural and that usually has outweighed the small urbanish areas and while there is some diversity it's not nearly as diverse as the districts closer to the city.

   11. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:16 AM (#5725678)
   12. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:18 AM (#5725679)
A breadcrumb!
   13. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM (#5725693)
You can't make this #### up...

She ran on responsible gun regulation, now she's accused of killing her campaign treasurer:
ATLANTA - A former Georgia Congressional candidate has been charged with murder after her former campaign treasurer was found dead inside her apartment.

Kellie Collins, of Thomason, turned herself into the McDuffie County Sheriff’s Office just as authorities in Aiken County, South Carolina found the body of Curtis Cain, Collins’ former campaign treasurer.

Investigators said Cain did not show up for work on Tuesday, so deputies went to his home to check on him. That’s when they found him dead from an apparent gunshot wound.
In keeping with strict MSM practice, her D party affiliation isn't revealed until the penultimate paragraph.
   14. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:37 AM (#5725694)
Another breadcrumb!
   15. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:38 AM (#5725695)
A breadcrumb!

Light at the end of the tunnel!
   16. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:40 AM (#5725697)
   17. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:40 AM (#5725698)
Another breadcrumb!

Light another candle on the baby's crib!
   18. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:45 AM (#5725701)
Another breadcrumb!
With amazing retorts like these, it's a total mystery why anyone would take long holidays from this place. Or quit altogether.
   19. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5725707)
With amazing retorts like these, it's a total mystery why anyone would take long holidays from this place. Or quit altogether.


What retort do you think appropriate?

The alleged "Democratic congressional candidate" didn't actually even run in the primary for GA-10... It's unclear whether she actually even filed. GA-10 is an R+15 district -- and there were three other Democratic candidates who did run. A rather exhaustive google search finds no mention of her candidacy except for her name being listed on Ballotpedia as "dropped out".

She's less of a "former Democratic congressional candidate" than Nazi Arthur Jones is a current Republican congressional candidate.

If it bothers you, then go back to your shake and bake, breadcrumb gathering exile.

EDIT: Indeed - given that she got no votes, it seems likely she did not even file.
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:58 AM (#5725712)
With amazing retorts like these, it's a total mystery why anyone would take long holidays from this place. Or quit altogether.

Say, have you figured out yet whether Donald Trump is a racist? Or are you still mulling that one over? (smile)
   21. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5725714)
The alleged "Democratic congressional candidate" didn't actually even run in the primary for GA-10... It's unclear whether she actually even filed. GA-10 is an R+15 district -- and there were three other Democratic candidates who did run. A rather exhaustive google search finds no mention of her candidacy except for her name being listed on Ballotpedia as "dropped out".

She's less of a "former Democratic congressional candidate" than Nazi Arthur Jones is a current Republican congressional candidate.

If it bothers you, then go back to your shake and bake, breadcrumb gathering exile.

EDIT: Indeed - given that she got no votes, it seems likely she did not even file.
Now was that so freaking hard?

The story is still tragically hilarious. Gun control for thee but not for me. (On a related note, maybe one day Governor Cuomo will confiscate his bodyguards' handguns?)
   22. DavidFoss Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:03 PM (#5725718)
With amazing retorts like these, it's a total mystery why anyone would take long holidays from this place. Or quit altogether.

Incumbent Jody Hice (R) ran unopposed in 2016. Democrats decided to at least put someone on the ballot this time. At least three other Democrats decided to run in the primary (which is over) and Collins dropped out months before that primary. What exactly are we supposed to be retorting again?

The story is still tragically hilarious. Gun control for thee but not for me.

Looks like she allegedly murdered someone. And your beef is that is makes the party you don't vote for look like hypocrites on gun control? What if she jaywalked on the way to the murder? Or maybe she didn't signal her turn on the way there?
   23. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:03 PM (#5725721)
She ran on responsible gun regulation, now she's accused of killing her campaign treasurer:

It is possible she actually has her gun properly registered and regulated. Those two sentence fragments don't necessarily contradict one another.


Gun control for thee but not for me.

Did she run on gun confiscation? If not, this is a weird complaint.
   24. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:04 PM (#5725722)
Missouri Republican who said ‘Hitler was right’ wins state House primary

Steve West, who promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories on a radio show he hosts, defeated three other candidates Tuesday in the bid for a seat representing Clay County. He won with 49.5 percent of the vote; the second-place finisher had 24.4 percent.

“Looking back in history, unfortunately, Hitler was right about what was taking place in Germany. And who was behind it,” West said on KCXL radio in January 2017, The Kansas City Star reported Thursday.

He has spoken of “Jewish cabals” that are “harvesting baby parts” from Planned Parenthood, abuse children and control the Republican Party.

(...)Reached by The Star, West said his comments were taken out of context, but went on to criticize both Judaism and Islam.

“Jewish people can be beautiful people, but there’s ideologies associated with that that I don’t agree with,” he said. “Jews today are a remnant of the tribe of Judah that rejected Christ.”
   25. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:05 PM (#5725724)
The story is still tragically hilarious. Gun control for thee but not for me. (On a related note, and maybe one day Governor Cuomo will confiscate his bodyguards' handguns?)


So your point is that Democrats and liberals should rethink their gun control stances because someone who once said she was going to run for congress and apparently - like I said, I couldn't even find a campaign website - supported gun control used a gun (allegedly) to kill someone?

Spending time away beating your head with a mallet to get smarter... is apparently, not a good idea.
   26. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:11 PM (#5725726)
The story is still tragically hilarious. Gun control for thee but not for me.


I understand the Republican party opposes gun control but won't allow open carry at the RNC, not to mention so many government-operated institutions and facilities. Juanabout that?
   27. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:11 PM (#5725728)
The story is still tragically hilarious. Gun control for thee but not for me.

Or gun rights for us but not for the rest of you chumps.
   28. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:13 PM (#5725730)
Missouri Republican who said ‘Hitler was right’ wins state House primary


Hmmm.... maybe this is why SBB's favorite weekend rally was sparsely attended -- between this guy and Jones, perhaps many of them are busy with their campaigns.
   29. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5725731)
I understand the Republican party opposes gun control but won't allow open carry at the RNC

That was actually Quicken Loan Arena's call, not the RNC's, but it was a pity that the call was made.
   30. BDC Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5725732)
she's accused of killing her campaign treasurer


It's possible that he really needed killin'.
   31. DavidFoss Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5725737)
It's possible that he really needed killin'.

If she wasn't so against everyone else having a gun, perhaps someone else would have killed him before she could. Then she wouldn't be legal jeopardy.
   32. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:24 PM (#5725741)
Since we're on the topic -

Should be noted we've got more primary tomorrow... including Wisconsin, where Paul Nehlen will continue his quest to nab Paul Ryan's seat.

YOu know.... Paul Nehlen...
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:26 PM (#5725745)
'Sleepin' Joe' Hears Alarm Bells In Indiana Senate Brawl:
Privately referred to by some colleagues as the “accidental senator” because of his good fortune in drawing a deeply flawed GOP opponent in 2012, the first-term Indiana senator's presence is often barely noticed in the Capitol. His heads-down style distinguishes him among a quintet of centrist Democrats scrapping to survive this fall.

Donnelly rarely gives news conferences and stays away from cable news. For years, he assiduously avoided reporters who blanket the Capitol hallways. Now, the burly 62-year-old is running for reelection like a city council candidate, highlighting small-bore accomplishments and projecting an agreeable demeanor that contrasts sharply with what comes out of the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue most days.

There have been successful (re-elected!) Senators who concentrated on local issues - the so-called Senator Pothole types - but they don't usually avoid the press, more the opposite, drawing attention to every penny from the Feds directed toward his or her state. It will be interesting to see how Donnelly handles the Kavanaugh nomination - he voted for Gorsuch - and what the reaction is. Lots of money will be spent on this one - saw TV ads running during the recent Yankees @ White Sox games, and it isn't even Labor Day.
   34. Greg K Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:32 PM (#5725750)
Is this the new Central Park Softball Game thread?

Paging Greg K...

Still alive! Luckily my papers passed muster. The US remains more open than Bosnia.
   35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:34 PM (#5725751)
It is possible she actually has her gun properly registered and regulated. Those two sentence fragments don't necessarily contradict one another.

Don't committ murder is even more basic than properly filling out some forms.
   36. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5725758)
Donnelly avoids the national press... he's plenty visible to the local press.

Indeed - was just back in the land of Hoosier a couple weekends ago for my home town's annual summer festival -- and there are a lot of Donnelly fans (including Trumpkins)... The town got strangled the summer before by a viaduct construction project that was being held up by a railway line* - and you'll find no shortage of people who will tell you he "saved the town".

*Whether he did or not... In effect, they started the project -- and ripped up the main highway into/out of town -- and then it got put on hold as the railway that owns the bridge wanted further study of the effort. It was supposed to last no more than a few weeks in May, but dragged into July.

Anyway, it was wholly a state ####-up (guess who runs that) - but it was ultimately Donnelly that pressed the railroad to expedite the review that stalled the project and again - whether he deserves the credit or not - I can tell you that the townsfolk very much do give him the credit for solving it.
   37. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:00 PM (#5725769)
Don't committ murder is even more basic than properly filling out some forms.


So, let me get this straight. The original jibe was that someone who allegedly "ran" on gun control murdered someone, and the catchphrase was gun control for thee but not me. Implicit in the jibe was that Republicans are against gun control. The response was that maybe her gun was properly registered and legal to own and carry. The response to that was that not murdering someone is more important than proper paperwork, which is inarguable in a vacuum. But in this context it reads that the type of gun control that Republicans are against is the don't murder someone kind. The Party of Murder would look swell on a bumper sticker.
   38. Shredder Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:00 PM (#5725771)
The story is still tragically hilarious. Gun control for thee but not for me. (On a related note, maybe one day Governor Cuomo will confiscate his bodyguards' handguns?)
Representative Scott Desjarlais (R-TN) is similarly outraged at such hypocrisy.
   39. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5725773)
37

So, let me get this straight. The original jibe was that someone who allegedly "ran" on gun control murdered someone, and the catchphrase was gun control for thee but not me. Implicit in the jibe was that Republicans are against gun control. The response was that maybe her gun was properly registered and legal to own and carry. The response to that was that not murdering someone is more important than proper paperwork, which is inarguable in a vacuum. But in this context it reads that the type of gun control that Republicans are against is the don't murder someone kind. The Party of Murder would look swell on a bumper sticker.


The long and wind-ing road...
   40. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:03 PM (#5725774)
Jeebus already.

YOU.

#######.

HIRED.

HER!

   41. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:06 PM (#5725778)
40

From TFA:

“Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time,” Trump tweeted Monday morning, in his most direct attack yet on his former aide. “She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard....”

He continued: “... really bad things. Nasty to people & would constantly miss meetings & work. When Gen. Kelly came on board he told me she was a loser & nothing but problems. I told him to try working it out, if possible, because she only said GREAT things about me - until she got fired!”


There's your answer, Zonk. If President Snowflake only hears good things about himself, yer in like Flynn. Wait! Let me rephrase...
   42. BrianBrianson Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:08 PM (#5725782)
Don't committ murder is even more basic than properly filling out some forms.


Having to properly fill out forms regularly inspires me to commit murder.
   43. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:08 PM (#5725784)
So we finally know what Trump means by "only the best people". He means people who say nice things about him. Hell of a way to run a railroad.
   44. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:13 PM (#5725786)
So we finally know what Trump means by "only the best people". He means people who say nice things about him. Hell of a way to run a railroad.


Finally?
   45. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:26 PM (#5725799)
Kasich responds to Trump....

Not my cup of tea, but it's beyond me why you Trumpkins have chosen the orange clown over Kasich.
   46. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:32 PM (#5725805)
ONLY THE BEST PEOPEL!! DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!
   47. BrianBrianson Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:33 PM (#5725807)
Not my cup of tea either - I'd have gone with the Idi Amin laughing gif, since I don't like to sweeten my tea with anything discovered by history's greatest science power couple.
   48. dlf Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:50 PM (#5725817)
history's greatest science power couple.


Fraiser and Lilith?
   49. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:51 PM (#5725818)
So, how desperate are the opponents of Brett Kavanaugh? Pro Publica Attempting To Crowd Source Who Went To Washington Nationals Games With Kavanaugh:
Who did Kavanaugh buy tickets for? How did they reimburse him? Was this properly disclosed? And how was all of this treated for tax purposes?
. . .
We’re not sure what we’ll find. But we do know that people take a lot of pictures at baseball games. Did you see Judge Kavanaugh at a game? Did you attend a game with him? Do you have any photos, and if so, will you send them our way?

Here’s what we know already: We know he bought season tickets at the end of 2016, likely for the 2017 season. We know he also bought tickets to some playoff games. He might not have been sitting in the same seats for those. He has reportedly gone to games in the past with U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg, an Obama nominee who is his ex-roommate from law school. At this year’s All-Star Game, he sat in the stands above first base. These probably weren’t in the same part of the stadium as his 2017 season tickets, but could perhaps offer a clue into where he likes to sit. He’s been photographed at least twice wearing blue striped polo shirts. We’d especially like to figure out where he sat, how many seats he bought and which friends attended games with him. If you’ve got information, please fill out the questions below or send us an email at supremecourt@propublica.org.

This will probably work out as well as the effort to obtain his wife's work e-mails. Hilarious.
   50. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5725824)
What do you mean I can't call Nipple in the middle of the night to shoot the breeze?!?!

You can't even parody this guy any more.

I imagine Sacha Baron Cohen's next project will tend towards the lazy side...

"Hello, I am Sacha Baron Cohen. I am going to ask you some really crazy questions that are entirely designed to make you sound stupid. Please respond to them with ridiculousness. This is my act, in case the release you signed wasn't clear about that."

"Thank you for talking to me Sacha Baron Cohen who makes people look like morons. I am everybody's favorite President, Donald F Trump. Should I say something stupid now or do I wait until you ask a question?"
   51. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5725862)
Trump could never be the "Ugly American:" he's overqualified.
   52. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5725863)
49

work e-mails. Hilarious.


I think you mean "Hillary-ous."
   53. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:02 PM (#5725867)
Family values?


Bobby Goodlatte @rsg

I’m deeply embarrassed that Peter Strzok’s career was ruined by my father’s political grandstanding. That committee hearing was a low point for Congress.

Thank you for your service sir. You are a patriot https://apple.news/AQZVN1bw0TkmX82vvXLdpVg …
12:29 PM - Aug 13, 2018


Apparently, Jr and Sr do not get along.
   54. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:04 PM (#5725868)
I dunno...ya think?
   55. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:07 PM (#5725870)
Family values?


TPM needs to get its facts straight.

After tweeting that he donated to the opponent of his father, Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), in his reelection race,


Good Latte Sr is not running for re-election . He is retiring.
   56. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:13 PM (#5725874)
Good Latte Sr is not running for re-election . He is retiring.


To spend more time with his family, I imagine...
   57. zenbitz Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:15 PM (#5725875)
We missed you JE. I assume you are back to tell us how the GOP we rebuild itself with integrity and commitment to conservative principles?
   58. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:17 PM (#5725876)
We missed you JE. I assume you are back to tell us how the GOP we rebuild itself with integrity and commitment to conservative principles?


Apparently he's just here to pick wings off of flies.
   59. DavidFoss Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5725881)
I think you mean "Hillary-ous."

Today I learned (TIL) that these words are actually cognates! Both come from the Latin for 'cheerful, merry'. There were saints and popes in the 5th century with this name. I guess the connection might be obvious, but for some reason I figured the name and adjective must have come from different languages or something.
   60. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:26 PM (#5725883)
Clapper, the Dems could make complete and total clowns of themselves opposing Kavanaugh, and they'd deserve scorn.

Doesn't make "you and yours" any less beclowned for being The Party of Trump. But keep pointing to the other thing, if that's how you sleep at night.
   61. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:46 PM (#5725890)
People at work listening to Trump at Fort Drum up the highway talk about fake news, take credit for the annual military pay raise, talk about fake news, take credit for the Korean remains return, and then talk about fake news. Then I left the room to do work elsewhere. I assume he followed up with fake news.

Be curious to see if he mentions fake news later in Utica.

I do wonder how close Brindisi can get this November. The chances are slim, but somewhere more than zero.
On guns, Mr. Brindisi voted against New York’s landmark SAFE Act, enacted after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. The law banned assault weapons that contained any one of a list of military-style features.

“I always tell folks that I believe a representative can be a supporter of the Second Amendment and still support some common-sense reforms,” he said, highlighting measures like expanded background checks and removing firearms from people convicted of domestic violence.

That his stance on gun ownership has not alienated the most progressive factions of the district speaks to the disdain for Ms. Tenney, political observers say.

“You would expect the grass-roots organizations to be dissatisfied with his attitudes toward guns, and they’re clearly not,” said Mr. Perry of Utica College. “Why? Because they are so opposed to Claudia Tenney. They are not really pushing him for ideological purity. They like him as a candidate, and they think he can win.”


   62. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:47 PM (#5725891)
To spend more time with his family, I imagine...

He's term-limited as Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and will be 66 in September, so not surprising he'd retire. The House GOP doesn't keep people in leadership positions forever.
   63. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:53 PM (#5725895)
At least popcorn farmers can probably weather Trump's stupid tariffs OK, thanks to soaring domestic demand.

Jilted ex-“Apprentice” star and former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman has told friends and associates that she has tapes of private phone calls from first daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, according to two sources with whom she has discussed the recording.

She claims her stash of recordings — which she is dribbling out to keep the publicity machine going around the release of her new book “Unhinged” — includes a condolence call she received from the couple the day after she was fired by chief of staff John Kelly last December.


Maybe she can be your next Presidential candidate, Clapper... She seems to understand what sort of stuff the GOP thirsts for even better than Trump.

Who'd have thought Trump would be Anakin, not Luke....
   64. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:58 PM (#5725898)
Who'd have thought Trump would be Anakin, not Luke....


Trump is Jabba. Amarosa is Leia, choking him with her own bondage chain.
   65. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5725900)
Trump is Jabba. Amarosa is Leia, choking him with her own bondage chain.


Nah.... Salacious B Crumb

When Jabba found Crumb eating from his food bowl, he attempted to digest him, though the Kowakian monkey-lizard escaped, covering Jabba's two henchmen with goo in the process. Jabba found this extremely amusing, and offered Crumb a role as his court jester; if Salacious managed to amuse Jabba at least once a day, he would be allowed to eat and drink as much as he wished. However, if he failed to do so, he would be killed. For over a dozen years he lived in Jabba's Palace, playing many tricks and practical jokes on some of the palace's regulars, and becoming one of the most disliked members of Jabba's court.
   66. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5725901)
AF1 just landed within easy few hundred yards of the parking lot, maybe less. People streaming out to look. I... am not.

He's definitely on schedule, though, so thumbs up to the schoolyard chaperones.
   67. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:09 PM (#5725902)
Maybe she can be your next Presidential candidate, Clapper...

Zonk, I'm afraid you're the one here with obsessive interest in Omarosa Manigault Newman. Good luck with that.
   68. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5725904)
Zonk, I'm afraid you're the one here with obsessive interest in Omarosa Manigault Newman. Good luck with that.


Not enough interest to hire her.

This is why I'm polling so poorly as a future Republican Presidential candidate. I have the fatal flaw of being able to separate my amusement and entertainment from my professional duties and responsibilities.

Republicans, apparently, feel differently.

Sad.
   69. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:30 PM (#5725916)
so this is on Twitter: a certain someone tweeting to her 779,000 followers

Stormy Daniels
‏Verified account @StormyDaniels

When will people learn? You can put a lot of things in my mouth. Words are not one of them.
   70. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5725920)
I've also never paid a porn actress to #### me... another flaw in my future GOP Presidential campaign.

This is all good stuff, though... lots of time to focus group the problems and get myself right for my future Clapper feting.
   71. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:38 PM (#5725923)
What do you mean I can't call Nipple in the middle of the night to shoot the breeze?!?!

Time zones are obviously a Chinese hoax in an attempt to cause autism in American people. On a flat Earth, it stands to reason, the sun shines everywhere at the same time. That's why they use chemical agents in chemtrails to brainwash people, so that nobody catches on.
   72. BrianBrianson Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:44 PM (#5725925)
Russia has eleven time zones.

China has one.

Trump doesn't respect time zones.

Q.E.D., No Collusion.
   73. zenbitz Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:53 PM (#5725930)
I've also never paid a porn actress to #### me... another flaw in my future GOP Presidential campaign.


Once again - this is one of Trump's MOST ENDEARING qualities.
   74. TDF, trained monkey Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:06 PM (#5725934)
So once again, the MSM is failing in its most basic job - holding the government responsible. Once again, they've framed an important story in the most Trump-friendly way possible.

The question is not "Did Omerosa break a law by recording her firing in the Situation Room?" The question is "HOW THE **** DID SOMEONE GET A RECORDING DEVICE INTO THE SITUATION ROOM???"
   75. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:06 PM (#5725935)
so this is on Twitter: a certain someone tweeting to her 779,000 followers


Yeah, she should just keep her mouth shut, yaknowwhatimean?
   76. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:08 PM (#5725937)
The question is not "Did Omerosa break a law by recording her firing in the Situation Room?" The question is "HOW THE **** DID SOMEONE GET A RECORDING DEVICE INTO THE SITUATION ROOM???"


Another question is "how much does she know?" This could get good.
   77. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:18 PM (#5725943)
So, based on where my car was parked, I was maybe 15 feet from causing an international incident, world fame, and my own death by driving my car forward into the road instead of backing out of my spot.

I considered hanging out with people from work standing on the grass to watch the motorcade go by, but I didn't want to be maybe the ONE EXTRA BODY that would make Trump think "hey, look, people are here watching me" instead of "jesus, where is everyone?" So I left, probably 3 minutes before it passed. It wasn't a lot of people.

Cool story, bro.
   78. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:21 PM (#5725945)

The question is not "Did Omerosa break a law by recording her firing in the Situation Room?" The question is "HOW THE **** DID SOMEONE GET A RECORDING DEVICE INTO THE SITUATION ROOM???"

Not a Trump or Omerosa fan and I haven't really followed this story but it sounds like someone asked her to come into the Situation Room so they could fire her. Should they have frisked her for her iPhone? Why is it such a big deal that she recorded the conversation?
   79. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:28 PM (#5725951)
Oh yeah?

Jimmy Carter peanut farm time, I guess.

It's quite a racket the Trumps are running.... Hell - Trump "donates" his salary, but the secret service spent more than $100,000 on Trump club golf cart rental alone in 2017. That's just golf cart rentals. Solely for the secret service detail. At Trump's clubs.
   80. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:35 PM (#5725958)
It's quite a racket the Trumps are running.... Hell - Trump "donates" his salary, but the secret service spent more than $100,000 on Trump club golf cart rental alone in 2017. That's just golf cart rentals. Solely for the secret service detail. At Trump's clubs.


Somebody has to do a study of how much Trump makes from taxpayers by going on vacation 30 times a year. Not how much it costs. We know that's many many millions. But how much he personally profits.
   81. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:42 PM (#5725961)
Should they have frisked her for her iPhone?


Um, yes. Is this a trick question? At a bare minimum she should have been asked to deposit it outside. There's no indication that happened.

Why is it such a big deal that she recorded the conversation?


The big deal is that she was able to bring the device inside without anyone apparently knowing nor caring. It speaks very poorly about WH security protocols. Now, in all likelihood, there was little to no sensitive information there that she could have recorded. Probably, but not 100%. But that's not the point. There's an old sports adage that you practice the way you would play the game. Goof around in practice because, well, it's just practice, and it's likely the game won't go so well. If the WH security is lax because, well, it's just a termination meeting with the CoS and some lawyers, under what other circumstances are they lax? Is Trump tweeting from an insecure phone while attending a classified briefing in the Sit room? The world wonders.
   82. TDF, trained monkey Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:45 PM (#5725963)
Not a Trump or Omerosa fan and I haven't really followed this story but it sounds like someone asked her to come into the Situation Room so they could fire her. Should they have frisked her for her iPhone? Why is it such a big deal that she recorded the conversation?
There's a strict policy of no recording devices there:
Juliette Kayyem, a former top Homeland Security official under President Obama who is now a CNN national security analyst, was aghast at Omarosa's admission during Sunday's "Meet the Press" show, the official start of Omarosa's national book tour.

In a CNN story published Sunday, Kayyem wrote that "external devices" such as smartphones or recorders are strictly prohibited from the Situation Room," in order to keep foreign enemies or spy services from hacking in and listening to sensitive information.

"The fact that the recording exists is shocking; that it allegedly happened in the most secure room in the White House – known as a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) – would represent a violation of strict internal procedures prohibiting unsecure devices there," Kayyem wrote. "The goal is to keep America safe."
Every person entering the room should be subject to...scanning? frisking? something certainly to make sure there are no such devices.
   83. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:49 PM (#5725964)
So your point is that Democrats and liberals should rethink their gun control stances because someone who once said she was going to run for congress and apparently - like I said, I couldn't even find a campaign website - supported gun control used a gun (allegedly) to kill someone?
When that Nazi scumbag secured the GOP nomination of an über-safe Dem seat in Illinois, due pretty much 100 percent to local party incompetence, the lefties at this place nonetheless alternated between outrage and snickering.

Hey, at least this ####### didn't kill anyone.
   84. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5725966)
golf cart fake news, sigh
Hell - Trump "donates" his salary, but the secret service spent more than $100,000 on Trump club golf cart rental alone in 2017. That's just golf cart rentals. Solely for the secret service detail. At Trump's clubs.


from factcheck.org (see link):

"Rep. Adam Schiff mistakenly claimed that the Secret Service has paid the Trump Organization “over $150,000 … for the privilege of renting Donald Trump golf carts to protect Donald Trump on his rounds.” In fact, the federal agency rents golf carts from other companies.

Schiff’s office told us that the $150,000 figure comes from a November 2017 USA Today story that cited the research of American Bridge 21st Century PAC, a Democratic opposition research group.

But the USA Today story did not say that the Secret Service is “renting Donald Trump golf carts.” It cited one company, Golf Car & Utility Vehicle Distributors in Florida. It made no reference to any Trump-owned companies receiving payment.

there is no evidence that the Secret Service rented golf carts from Trump companies, American Bridge spokesman Harrell Kirsten told us.

Patrick Boland, a spokesman for Schiff, told us the congressman’s office did not have American Bridge’s data and misread the USA Today story."

............

(Trump is the most target-rich environment evah - but inaccuracies are distractions)
   85. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5725967)
AF1 just landed within easy few hundred yards of the parking lot, maybe less. People streaming out to look. I... am not.
#RESIST
   86. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:54 PM (#5725968)
We missed you JE. I assume you are back to tell us how the GOP we rebuild itself with integrity and commitment to conservative principles?
You're always so sweet to me on the day I return, zenbitz. The next day? Not so much. :)

How about joining us in the Big App for next year's Shooty Memorial?
   87. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:55 PM (#5725970)
Somebody has to do a study of how much Trump makes from taxpayers by going on vacation 30 times a year. Not how much it costs. We know that's many many millions. But how much he personally profits.


Oh, I have zero doubt it's also in the "many many millions".

For example, the doofus brothers incurred $250K in costs for a single ribbon cutting trip to Dubai -- 125K in airfare alone. Go ahead and Orbitz a last minute, 1st class trip to Dubai.

Anybody who doesn't think a pretty good chunk of that $125k ended up Trump pockets - more than likely the commercial rate to fly their own plane - is fooling themselves.

Dude's making out like a bandit.
   88. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:56 PM (#5725972)

(Trump is the most target-rich environment evah - but inaccuracies are distractions)


Oh yeah? Do tell. Give us some dirt on Trump. Or are you just here to defend him against inaccuracies?
   89. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:56 PM (#5725973)
Zonk, I'm afraid you're the one here with obsessive interest in Omarosa Manigault Newman. Good luck with that.


Not enough interest to hire her.

Say, did Clapper or his tag team partner ever bother to respond to that? Or is this another one of those "No obligation to respond, no foul" kind of things?
   90. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:00 PM (#5725976)

Fair enough. I'm not familiar with the rules and this concern sounded a bit like George C. Scott and the "big board" in Dr. Strangelove (i.e. focused on the rule rather than its practical intent). But it looks like even the administration is calling Omerosa's use of a recording device in the Sit Room a serious security breach. However, I don't think they realize that it reflects more poorly on the White House than it does on Omerosa.
   91. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:02 PM (#5725977)

from factcheck.org (see link):


See more link.

Also indicative is a USA Today report that in addition to his Mar-a-Lago residencies, as of 21 August Trump had racked up five visits to his private golf club in New Jersey. At these two locations, the Secret Service spent $60,000 on rent for the golf carts needed to protect the president. If that pattern continues, American taxpayers can expect to be dinged for as much as $103,000 per year in golf cart rentals alone.


So it's not $150K. It's more than $60k. I came up with the 100K figure as an extrapolation of the total 2017 costs and based on the still 3-months to go at the time of this.

   92. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:04 PM (#5725978)
For example, the doofus brothers incurred $250K in costs for a single ribbon cutting trip to Dubai -- 125K in airfare alone. Go ahead and Orbitz a last minute, 1st class trip to Dubai.


Back in the early days of the administration, or possibly during the transition, there was an incident on a flight where Jared, Ivanka, an their children were harassed on a commercial flight. It was discussed here. I asked where was the Secret Service during this, and was laughed off the board by the usual Trumpkins asking why on earth would the Secret Service provide protection to Trump's adult children.
   93. Shredder Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:08 PM (#5725982)
The big deal is that she was able to bring the device inside without anyone apparently knowing nor caring. It speaks very poorly about WH security protocols.
The thing is, this sounds like Kelly using the SR to get away from other people, maybe because he anticipated Omorosa trying to create a scene, and nothing particularly important to national security was going to happen during his meeting firing Omorosa. Holding the meeting in the SR doesn't necessarily elevate its status. It's a SCIF, not the Sistine Chapel.
In a CNN story published Sunday, Kayyem wrote that "external devices" such as smartphones or recorders are strictly prohibited from the Situation Room," in order to keep foreign enemies or spy services from hacking in and listening to sensitive information.
Which makes perfect sense for every meeting in the SR in which sensitive information may be discussed. Has anyone who was "aghast" at the use of a recording device in the SR opined on how routine it is to take someone in there for purposes of termination? My guess is that it wasn't designed for such a purpose. Should they have been worried that foreign adversaries my learn of Omorosa's firing? Does Kelly not have his own office?

tl;dr: Recording devices should not be allowed in the situation room. The situation room should not be used for purposes other than those for which was intended. Of course, if it was designed to be used an staffer abattoir, then the analysis changes.
   94. BrianBrianson Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:10 PM (#5725984)
When that Nazi scumbag secured the GOP nomination of an über-safe Dem seat in Illinois, due pretty much 100 percent to local party incompetence, the lefties at this place nonetheless alternated between outrage and snickering.


"Secured the nomination" reflects a lot worse on the party than "dropped out before they even ran".
   95. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:13 PM (#5725985)
"Secured the nomination" reflects a lot worse on the party than "dropped out before they even ran".


Yeah, but the scumbag hasn't killed anyone. JUANABOUT THAT?
   96. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:18 PM (#5725986)
When that Nazi scumbag secured the GOP nomination of an über-safe Dem seat in Illinois, due pretty much 100 percent to local party incompetence, the lefties at this place nonetheless alternated between outrage and snickering.


Uber-safe?

IL-3 is a D+6 - the 2nd most flippable Dem district in the state after Cheri Bustos' far west Rockford district.

It includes a decent chunk of Will County and even a slice of DuPage - which just happens to be THE GOP county in the state - in addition to the chunk of Cook of that daddy Lip carved out to secure sonny boy's fiefdom.

The population is still heavily Cook-weighted, granted -- but this isn't a wholly urban district where the GOP shouldn't even bother.
   97. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:21 PM (#5725989)
Uber-safe?

IL-3 is a D+6 - the 2nd most flippable Dem district in the state after Cheri Bustos' far west Rockford district.


In this election cycle, D+6 IS uber safe. He's just acknowledging that fact.
   98. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:21 PM (#5725990)
"Secured the nomination" reflects a lot worse on the party than "dropped out before they even ran".
It speaks to the competence of the local party, nothing more.

And again, she's a worse humanoid than the Nazi scumbag, as astonishing as that might seem to some of you.
   99. Stormy JE Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:23 PM (#5725991)
The population is still heavily Cook-weighted, granted -- but this isn't a wholly urban district where the GOP shouldn't even bother.
And yet the GOP didn't bother. And that's the point.
   100. Lassus Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:23 PM (#5725992)
How about joining us in the Big App for next year's Shooty Memorial?

What now? Is he never, ever, ever, ever, like, ever coming back to play softball?

(Er, of course, after that snark, I hope he doesn't have terminal colon cancer.)


Any thoughts on your President cavorting with SS tattoos at the White House? Ain't no thang?
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