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OTP 2018 August 20: Sick of divisive summertime politics? Baseball’s thrills offer an escape

First, things starting with the letter “L” come to mind when thinking about this summer.
“The Summer of Lying?” Nah, let’s keep this positive.

It seems like certain politicians and college coaches have been competing in a never-ending race to the bottom of the dishonesty cesspool.
“The Summer of LeBron?” Maybe. But no, LeBron James doesn’t need any more attention.

But his decision to build a new public school for at-risk kids in his hometown of Akron, Ohio, and cover all student costs should be commended by everyone, including the U.S. Secretary of Education and her boss.

(As always, views expressed in the article lede and comments are the views of the individual commenters and the submitter of the article and do not represent the views of Baseball Think Factory or its owner.)

Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: August 20, 2018 at 07:45 AM | 2230 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   2201. zenbitz Posted: August 27, 2018 at 08:55 PM (#5734534)
Flopsweat
   2202. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 27, 2018 at 08:55 PM (#5734535)
Flop
   2203. BDC Posted: August 27, 2018 at 09:09 PM (#5734538)
does it not bother the Manly Texans -- the fact that he seems to have even less spine than Speaker Ryan and less sack than McConnell?


Not enough to vote for a socialist who wants to take their guns, raise their taxes, and ration their health care :-|
   2204. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 27, 2018 at 09:27 PM (#5734554)
I thought that bit fell kind of flat, actually. The way he humiliates random idiots makes me deeply uncomfortable (though I can't turn my eyes away), and is it really a surprise that a bunch of MAGA types in Arizona wouldn't want a megamosque in their town? The only real laugh it generated from me was when the one guy asked, "Is there really a need for a $300,000,000 mosque here?" Everyone else became so hysterical at the mere mention of the mosque that I thought that very obvious question was going to go unasked.


I don't know. I lost it when he showed Option #2 of the proposed Mosque and again when he responded to the outrage with, "OK, let me ask you then: What DOES your dream mosque look like?"
   2205. Hot Wheeling American, MS-13 Enthusiast Posted: August 27, 2018 at 09:30 PM (#5734558)
@gelles
Sen. James Inhofe told reporters that Sen. John McCain was “partially to blame” for the controversy over the lowering of the White House flag. Inhofe said McCain "disagreed with the president in certain areas and wasn’t too courteous about it."
   2206. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 27, 2018 at 09:33 PM (#5734562)
Sen. James Inhofe told reporters that Sen. John McCain was “partially to blame” for the controversy over the lowering of the White House flag. Inhofe said McCain "disagreed with the president in certain areas and wasn’t too courteous about it."


And if there's one thing President Trump has no tolerance for, it's a lack of courtesy.
   2207. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 27, 2018 at 09:43 PM (#5734567)
Sen. James Inhofe told reporters that Sen. John McCain was “partially to blame” for the controversy over the lowering of the White House flag. Inhofe said McCain "disagreed with the president in certain areas and wasn’t too courteous about it."


"You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?"
   2208. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 27, 2018 at 09:58 PM (#5734571)
I can't believe that such a vacuous denial of observable reality could come from the brain and mouth of Senator Snowball.
   2209. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 27, 2018 at 10:09 PM (#5734577)
Democrats Fret Nelson Is Choking In Florida Senate Race:
Privately, a number of Democratic senators have offered their unsolicited view that Nelson is in for a reckoning on Election Day, which would cost Democrats any hope of winning back the Senate. . . . He’s being vastly outspent, and there’s concern in Florida the national party might cut him loose if a loss looks certain in the expensive Sunshine State.
. . .
It’s been a month since Nelson led a public poll. Private polling, even surveys conducted by Democrats, also show Nelson behind Scott.

Wait, weren't we told here that the influx of Puerto Ricans following Hurricane Maria would turn Florida blue? Well, yes, but consider the source; that doesn't seem to be true:
More than a year ago, Scott started seriously laying the groundwork for a Senate bid and capitalized on those efforts when Hurricane Maria decimated Puerto Rico. The storm sent tens of thousands of evacuees to Florida, which was already home to the largest Boricua population off the island. Scott welcomed evacuees and took multiple trips to the island.

By the time Nelson caught up, focus groups and polls indicate, Scott had made enough inroads with the state’s Puerto Rican population that it alarmed Democrats, who need strong Democratic-leaning Boricua votes in Central Florida to counteract the Republican-leaning Cuban-Americans of South Florida.

The campaign is just heating up, but Florida is currently looking better for the GOP than many expected.
   2210. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: August 27, 2018 at 10:25 PM (#5734583)
Nelson is a #### Senator who deserves to lose, but let’s not forget the shady and profoundly anti-democratic bullshit Rick Scott is doing behind the scenes:

Erwin Jones, an African-American man, was standing before the governor and Cabinet on June 14 when Florida’s Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis asked him how many children he had and “how many different mothers to those children?”

Jones had served time for a felony at least five years before. He was in Tallahassee that day to get permission from Gov. Rick Scott and the Cabinet, sitting as the Executive Clemency Board, to get back his civil rights – to vote, sit on a jury, or run for public office.

The arbitrary public questioning about Jones’ family status is an example, advocates say, of the deeply flawed process felons face when seeking official clemency to restore their civil rights in Florida.
   2211. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 27, 2018 at 10:49 PM (#5734588)
Nelson is a #### Senator who deserves to lose,


Amen. Senator Big Sugar who more than most is responsible for the destruction of the Everglades, Florida Bay, and the Keys coral reef deserves a slow, painful death. Unfortunately, Skeletor will be no better on this front, and worse in others. A real Sophie's choice we have here in Florida we do.
   2212. greenback slays lewks Posted: August 27, 2018 at 11:08 PM (#5734591)
Hence the use of 'nominally' in my statement.

My memory is that Ray has dropped this pretense over the last year or two, much like JE has dropped his Never Trump stance. It was never convincing, and with Trump in the White House, now it's not useful rhetoric either. Admittedly I have been skipping Ray's posts recently, roughly after the latest faux outrage over holsters, so maybe I missed something here.
   2213. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 27, 2018 at 11:38 PM (#5734604)
A few months ago, I was at a local watering hole which had live music that day. The front man says "And now we are going to play a song to honor America and the troops. Stand up if you feel like it, or don't if that's your choice. We have freedom here, so that you dan do what you want." (or words to that effect.) They then begin playing Lee Greenwood's "Proud to be an American." Everyone stands, except my wife and I, who are quite possibly the only veterans in the place. We weren't protesting anything, just didn't feel the need to stand up for that song*. Boy, the hate rays we got from a bunch of standing dipshits...

I was at Yankee Stadium a couple of years ago and the 7th inning stretch hits and they play "God Bless America". Boy do I just hate that song (Though better than Greewood's). I was with a friend who asked why I wasn't standing. I simply said, it is not the Star Spangled Banner. He was starting to ask me if I was patriotic, then remembered that I was the veteran and he was not, and then just said, Oh yeah.
   2214. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 12:18 AM (#5734611)

Catching up after a whole day of amusementparking with the kids:
Steele contended that Cohen went to Prague to meet with Kremlin officials as part of a conspiracy to pay hackers to get dirt on Hillary. Getting one of the few readily checkable things wrong suggests that the whole dossier is suspect,
Well, it doesn't, actually. I mean, this hypothetically-wrong fact would not be a point in favor of the validity of the dossier, obviously. But getting a single fact wrong does not in fact suggest the whole thing is.

(Talking about the "whole dossier" as if a dossier was a single coherent report is misleading. It's a collection of separate documents. It would be one thing to claim that an article containing a misreport about a baseball team's trade plans invalidates the article, but it would hardly suggest that everything reported on the team is suspect.)

especially when it is not a matter of getting the supposed date wrong by a day, or not noting the supposed location was a Prague suburb rather than the city proper, or getting someone's title wrong.
Or maybe it is a matter of those things. The entire evidence that this report is wrong (other than a denial by Cohen) is that Cohen was allegedly elsewhere in August. So what if it were a few weeks earlier, in July? Would that significantly undermine the dossier?
Crediting Steele & Simpson for good faith reporting of actual "intelligence" seems increasingly misplaced. We know Simpson is perfectly willing to smear folks for money, he did it in his anti-Magnitsky Act activities.
Simpson didn't write the dossier; Steele did. And of course it doesn't seem "increasingly" misplaced; that implies we're learning more and more that discredits the dossier. But we've got nothing new, one way or the other.
   2215. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 12:27 AM (#5734613)

I had an interesting moment at the Ballpark a few games ago. National Anthem: I do stand and put the hat over the heart. My son is in the military and he does that, and I do too. Fair enough.
Speaking of the anthem, I've long maintained (aside from the fact that there's nothing wrong with protesting) that people who complain about politicizing sporting events should be criticizing the fact that they play the anthem, not the fact that people are taking a knee. Who needs faux displays of patriotism before such events? After all, you don't see them playing the anthem before a movie, or when a supermarket opens in the morning, or the like.

Well, so (as I mentioned above) I was amusementparking with my kids this morning, and in fact they did play the anthem before the gates opened in the morning. If my eyes had rolled any harder, they could have knocked down bowling pins.
   2216. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 12:29 AM (#5734614)

Exclusive: U.S., Mexico reach NAFTA deal;
FYI: no.
   2217. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 28, 2018 at 12:31 AM (#5734615)
Divided Three Judge Court Holds North Carolina Congressional Redistricting an Unconstitutional Partisan Gerrymander, Considers New Districts for 2018 Elections

It's a 2-1 ruling. Because they are overturning the replacement map that was supposed to remedy the previously unconstitutional gerrymandered map, the North Carolina district court may well impose its own "cured" House map for the upcoming election. Or it could still give the General Assembly yet another try at coming up with a legal map.

The district court could also change this November's elections to primary elections, and bump the general election to January 2019. This would be beyond our puny abilities to comprehend apocalyptic awesomeness, if the rest of the House of Representatives elections produced a margin like 215-210, or 213-212. Several of North Carolina's House seats are in play as is.

The U.S. Supreme Court ordered the district court to reconsider this case two months ago in Gill v. Whitford.

Whatever the last-minute remedy, the new map would have to be put into place as immediately as possible, so ballots can be printed and redistricted voters can know who their candidates are. This process is expected to be completed before the 4-4 U.S. Supreme Court becomes a 5-4 one.

An emergency request to stay or overturn will certainly be sent to the Supreme Court. But if the 4-4 Court deadlocks on taking up the decision at all, it's expected that any new map will give Democrats at least two seat pickups.

Regarding an order to delay the ruling until after the election because of the lateness of the changes, there's speculation that six of the eight votes are pretty baked in, meaning that decision would come down to Kagan and/or Breyer. How they'll weigh that lateness against the lateness being directly attributable to the Republican-controlled Assembly's inability/refusal to provide a clean map is unknowable.

It's fairly likely that any new House map would be in force for 2018 only, as it's expected that a 5-4 conservative Supreme Court majority will reject attempts to thwart "partisan gerrymanders."

However, even if the new map is ultimately ruled out of bounds by SCOTUS, any Democratic pickups on the 11th-hour "cured" district map would remain in place for the full 2019-20 House term.

All of this is more bad news for Republicans in the state, and nationally. Whereas even the most sweeping court reversal against Democrats would leave them no better or worse off than they are right now (assuming the appeal is entertained at all).
   2218. OCF Posted: August 28, 2018 at 12:43 AM (#5734616)
Exclusive: U.S., Mexico reach NAFTA deal;

FYI: no
.
I'm not sure I've found a coherent report of what this thing actually is, and who might benefit from or be harmed by it, and what it has to do with Canada. For the moment, I've sort of set it aside, filed under "consider the source."

And what does Pena Nieto think he's doing actually negotiating anything? Yes, he's still officially President, but he's the lamest of lame ducks, and his popularity is lower than mud on the floor. Shouldn't he be deferring any substantive decisions until Lopez Obrador takes over?
   2219. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 01:04 AM (#5734617)
BREAKING: Court records: Man accused of killings at video gaming competition had been hospitalized for mental illness.

Oh, so he's a white dude.
I think you mean a (((white))) dude.
   2220. Ray (CTL) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 02:01 AM (#5734621)
Jim Brown speaks about Trump:

“I should be criticizing Trump on every level because he does certain things that call for criticism,” Brown said.
“But when I look at television I see all these announcers become experts, and they’re pointing the fingers, and they’re not doing a doggone thing but pointing their fingers, I find myself really pulling for the president.”
The 82-year-old continued, “Now, that would make me very unpopular in the black community, very unpopular with a lot of Americans, but I think that there are certain good things that are coming out of this presidency because we’ve never seen anything like it.”


Jim Brown has more than a few character flaws.

Though I did enjoy his appearance on CHiPS playing a thief in roller skates.
   2221. Ray (CTL) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 02:05 AM (#5734622)
Hence the use of 'nominally' in my statement.

My memory is that Ray has dropped this pretense over the last year or two, much like JE has dropped his Never Trump stance. It was never convincing, and with Trump in the White House, now it's not useful rhetoric either. Admittedly I have been skipping Ray's posts recently, roughly after the latest faux outrage over holsters, so maybe I missed something here.


Nope. Still a libertarian.
   2222. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 28, 2018 at 02:11 AM (#5734623)
Onion:
White House Releases Moving Statement Honoring Woman Who Called Obama An Arab In 2008
   2223. Ray (CTL) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 02:20 AM (#5734624)
That's not actually an insult. It's false, which is different.
   2224. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 03:37 AM (#5734626)

Nope. Still a libertarian.
Nihilism is not libertarianism.
   2225. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 28, 2018 at 05:55 AM (#5734627)
Mike Morse:
That flag went up and down the White House pole so often today, Trump's lawyers paid it $130,000.
   2226. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 28, 2018 at 06:51 AM (#5734629)
Speaking of the anthem, I've long maintained (aside from the fact that there's nothing wrong with protesting) that people who complain about politicizing sporting events should be criticizing the fact that they play the anthem, not the fact that people are taking a knee. Who needs faux displays of patriotism before such events? After all, you don't see them playing the anthem before a movie, or when a supermarket opens in the morning, or the like.

FTR, two places where they used to play the anthem: On TV stations at sign-off;** and in movie theaters during World War II.

** Before cable, many broadcast networks didn't program 24/7, and would go off the air in the wee hours of the morning. At the time of sign-off, they'd play the Star Spangled Banner and then run a test pattern until they resumed their programming.
   2227. Greg K Posted: August 28, 2018 at 07:05 AM (#5734632)
We all go out
Then we all come home
But I fall asleep with the TV on
At 3 AM, oh say can you see
The dawn's early light has taken you from me
The dawn's early light has taken you from me

And we raise the white flag
So they can paint it red and blue
Getting into bed seemed easy enough
Getting out's a little harder to do
   2228. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 28, 2018 at 07:41 AM (#5734637)
That's not actually an insult. It's false, which is different.


Arab=terrorist. It’s like you missed the whole political discourse in the aughts.
   2229. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 28, 2018 at 07:59 AM (#5734643)
That's not actually an insult. It's false, which is different.


Arab=terrorist. It’s like you missed the whole political discourse in the aughts.


I think the woman was confused too. She said Arab but meant Muslim and she certainly thought it was bad.
   2230. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: August 28, 2018 at 07:59 AM (#5734644)
The new thread is up and running.
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