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OTP 2018 March 19: Spending bill could quash Minor League Baseball players’ wage claims

A massive government spending bill that Congress is expected to consider this week could include a provision exempting Minor League Baseball players from federal labor laws, according to three congressional officials familiar with the talks.

The exemption would represent the culmination of more than two years of lobbying by Major League Baseball, which has sought to preempt a spate of lawsuits that have been filed by minor leaguers alleging they have been illegally underpaid.

(As always, views expressed in the article lede and comments are the views of the individual commenters and the submitter of the article and do not represent the views of Baseball Think Factory or its owner.)

Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: March 19, 2018 at 07:25 AM | 2016 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   2001. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:27 AM (#5643001)
“You know, there are a lot of discussions about the fact that maybe the Republican Party has lost its soul.”

— Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), quoted by the Washington Post.



Maybe? Well sure, let's be charitable.


How do you lose something that you sold a long time ago?
   2002. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:31 AM (#5643003)

Well good thing the protests are not mandatory. Some people post on obscure internet boards, some people learn CPR, some people march for school safety. Which is the least productive of those options?
Nobody was marching for school safety. They were marching to outlaw guns.
   2003. Zonk qualifies as an invasive species Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5643004)
Regarding Daniels, her media footprint seems to be losing traction faster than cars in the latest nor'easter. Not a lot going on in response the morning after.


Other than perhaps some details on the threat allegations - and perhaps some campaign finance followup on exactly how her payoff was structured, I'm not sure there's a whole lot more places for her story to go.

Lurid details are lurid details, but I doubt anyone is surprised by them.

The daughter luster himself breaking his silence is the necessary ingredient for it to be a fun little stew...
   2004. DJS Holiday-Related Pun Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5643005)

Noting that language has changed over centuries does not seem that dumb.


The use of "arm" is identical here. A semi-automatic handgun at its core is a more advanced version of a flintlock pistol. There's no different meaning here. It's like arguing that breakfast is defined as eating two eggs and that eating four eggs means, not that you're eating a larger breakfast, but that it can't even be breakfast at all. That's the argument of an imbecile (Shredder).

Regulated, in the modern sense, is a completely different word than trained. It is not a more advanced version of training. Now, if the only objection here is that there should be more advanced training, I don't actually have a quarrel with that; my issue there is that it's a pretense for civil right deniers. But it's not; taking away things, as those here are advocating, isn't a more advanced version of training.
   2005. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5643006)
Schools are much safer than they used to be.

Safer since when?
   2006. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:39 AM (#5643008)
   2007. DJS Holiday-Related Pun Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:41 AM (#5643012)
Safer since when?


https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/02/schools-are-still-one-of-the-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/

Just in case you don't get to it -- there are like ten three-syllable words in the opening paragraph -- the answer to your question would be according to:


Fridel and Fox used data collected by USA Today, the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Report, Congressional Research Service, Gun Violence Archive, Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries, Mother Jones, Everytown for Gun Safety, and a NYPD report on active shooters.


   2008. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:44 AM (#5643015)
Mentally unstable people having access to guns has made schools safer?
Maybe it's less lead in drinking water. Maybe it's global warming. Maybe it's the increasing length of baseball games. Whatever the cause is, the fact is that there are fewer people being shot at school.

And in terms of bad logic, I am just as critical of the idiots who cite Katie Steinle as an argument about immigration. There might be good reasons to worry about illegal immigration, but an incredibly rare low probability event like a random/accidental shooting of a pedestrian is not one of them. People who got hysterical about it were just as stupid as these kids this weekend (or the other day with the school walkout). Their anger was misdirected and their policy proposals would've been costly and ineffective. No reason that these kids should get a pass just because the left-wing media agrees with their views and hypes them up in comparison to the anti-illegal immigration people.
   2009. PreservedFish Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:54 AM (#5643025)
The use of "arm" is identical here. A semi-automatic handgun at its core is a more advanced version of a flintlock pistol. There's no different meaning here. It's like arguing that breakfast is defined as eating two eggs and that eating four eggs means, not that you're eating a larger breakfast, but that it can't even be breakfast at all. That's the argument of an imbecile (Shredder).


Ok, so if I invent the Murder Handgun 3000 that can spread a zillion bullets per nanosecond in every direction, is that cool? Is there any conceivable limit?
   2010. PreservedFish Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:57 AM (#5643027)
Maybe it's less lead in drinking water. Maybe it's global warming. Maybe it's the increasing length of baseball games. Whatever the cause is, the fact is that there are fewer people being shot at school.


You know this is fallacious - just because fewer are being shot today (and is that true?) doesn't mean that it's not a problem worth solving.
   2011. Ray (CTL) Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5643028)
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   2012. Spahn Insane Posted: March 26, 2018 at 11:01 AM (#5643033)
Nobody was marching for school safety. They were marching to outlaw guns.

False dichotomy is false.
   2013. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 26, 2018 at 11:04 AM (#5643039)
Safer since when?

https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/02/schools-are-still-one-of-the-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/

Just in case you don't get to it -- there are like ten three-syllable words in the opening paragraph -- the answer to your question would be according to:

Fridel and Fox used data collected by USA Today, the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Report, Congressional Research Service, Gun Violence Archive, Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries, Mother Jones, Everytown for Gun Safety, and a NYPD report on active shooters.


Leaving aside that history didn't begin in the 90's, the first chart in your link doesn't support the headline, the second chart seems to indicate that nobody died at Parkland, and the third chart ends at 2015.

P.S. Funny how the master of three-syllable words hasn't yet figured out how to use the <a> tab on a website that IIRC he used to have something to do with. Should we provide you with a tu-torial for future reference?
   2014. DavidFoss Posted: March 26, 2018 at 11:12 AM (#5643044)
just because fewer are being shot today (and is that true?) doesn't mean that it's not a problem worth solving.

I'm also curious to know if this is true.

Even so, the public seems to have an aversion to mass casualty events. Airline travel has been safer than automobile driving for decades, but we still have have investigations and follow-up regulations after every incident. Its the same thing with nuclear power. I imagine its actually safer than many other types of power plants, but the public doesn't see it that way.
   2015. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 26, 2018 at 11:52 AM (#5643078)
Airline travel has been safer than automobile driving for decades, but we still have have investigations and follow-up regulations after every incident.


People also have investigations and follow-up regulations when there are car crashes as well. They just aren't as well publicized because no newspaper/station is going to report on the changes made to how bumpers are designed for newer vehicles because someone noticed that the old design seemed to cause more pedestrian fatalities (albeit one at a time instead of 137 in one moment).

Look at all the (standard) new safety features in the newest models of cars that didn't exist in 99% of them a decade ago.
- Lane drift announcement/correction
- all-wheel drive in basic models
- autonomous braking
- blind spot warning indicators

That doesn't include things like better designed engines compartments, superstructures, seats, dashboards, belts...

Almost all of these advancements happened because of someone examining the results of accidents and then asking "how can we make that safer?".
   2016. Lassus Posted: March 26, 2018 at 11:56 AM (#5643081)
NEW THREAD, PEOPLE.
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