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OTP 2018 May 14: Political leadership, fans needed to bring baseball to Portland: Guest opinion

Today I’m not writing to promote the virtues of Major League Baseball or Portland as a baseball city. I’m writing from the perspective of one who worked on the last successful effort to bring a professional sports team to town—the Portland Timbers—and as someone who has worked in state and local politics for nearly 30 years. Few situations are fraught with as much politics as bringing a professional sports team to a community. If you look closely at cities that have experienced these debates, you’ll often find a combustible mix of political, financial and cultural issues that run deep and can linger for years.

 

(As always, views expressed in the article lede and comments are the views of the individual commenters and the submitter of the article and do not represent the views of Baseball Think Factory or its owner.)

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   401. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5673443)
Israel is a (relatively) wealthy nuclear power, with a strong extremely well trained military, and strong security mindset. They are not in any existential danger from any local power.
Not clear what being a nuclear power has to do with anything; nuclear weapons are not defensive weapons. Israel can't nuke Gaza to protect itself from Hamas. And of course while Israel does have a strong conventional military, that's precisely what people are lambasting Israel for using. "Israel doesn't need to fear Hamas because it has a military that it shouldn't be employing against Hamas" doesn't make any sense. Israel is not in existential danger from a conventional military attack, no. But it is in existential danger from a mass invasion.
   402. Sleepy's not going to blame himself Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:21 PM (#5673446)
JE and others celebrate a German insurance company unwinding doing business with Iran, but ignore the Chinese manufacturer ZTE that Trump is trying to save from US sanctions based on it doing business in Iran.
Of course the whole "ZTE does business in Iran" is just one excuse. Another major reason ZTE is in the crossfire is that they are a barely-disguised front for the Chinese intelligence community, and if Trump was serious about any kind of "America-first" rhetoric he would ban them from US networks. Along with BLU, Huawei, etc. Nothing transmitted using (or discussed within 25 feet of) a Chinese cell phone from one of those companies should be considered private.

Trump reversing course and actively supporting ZTE is remarkably bold and hasn't really received the criticism it deserves.
   403. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:25 PM (#5673449)
Trump reversing course and actively supporting ZTE is remarkably bold and hasn't really received the criticism it deserves.


That's the beauty of being a veritable gusher of bad ideas, stupid things, wrong things, ridiculous things, salacious things, etc.

Nothing ever really ends up getting the criticism it deserves.

Doesn't help that his loyal band of Trumpkins really couldn't care less what he does, so long is makes the proper people mad.
   404. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:34 PM (#5673460)
Another major reason ZTE is in the crossfire is that they are a barely-disguised front for the Chinese intelligence community, and if Trump was serious about any kind of "America-first" rhetoric he would ban them from US networks. Along with BLU, Huawei, etc. Nothing transmitted using (or discussed within 25 feet of) a Chinese cell phone from one of those companies should be considered private.


You think we're so innocent?
   405. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5673468)
But it is in existential danger from a mass invasion.


The idea that Israel is under existential threat makes me laugh quite hard. Why do you think they have nukes? If Iran sends in the guard Tehran is glass. Failing that, the US smart bombs Tehran back to the stone age. Might cost a little more but it won't be nuclear.

Listen, I get that Jews got a raw deal for a while in history, and maybe you're a bit gunshy, but the incredible irony of thinking Israel is the nation in the region under existential threat -- it is to laugh.
   406. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:57 PM (#5673479)
In other not getting much attention news...

The Trump CMS is moving forward with Medicaid work requirement rules - and states are moving forward with implementation, though, it would appear that they are including carve-outs that --- surprise, surprise! -- have a rather disproportionate impact.

In Kentucky, Ohio, and Michigan, people living in the counties with the highest unemployment rate would not lose their Medicaid coverage if they are unable to find a job. Those counties are overwhelmingly white, GOP-leaning and rural. Meanwhile, many low-income people of color who live in high-unemployment urban centers would not qualify because the wealthier suburbs surrounding those cities pull the overall county unemployment rate below the threshold.

New Hampshire, which has not yet announced which counties are exempt, could run into a similar problem. In its recently-approved waiver, the state promised to “assess areas within the state that experience high rates of unemployment, areas with limited economies and/or educational opportunities, and areas with lack of public transportation” so that the work requirements “will not be unreasonably burdensome for beneficiaries to meet.”

In Michigan, the disparities are particularly stark. If the waiver were approved, black residents would make up just 1.2 percent of the people eligible for an exemption, though they are 23 percent of the state’s Medicaid population. White people, who are would make up 57 percent of Medicaid enrollees, would constitute 85 percent of those exempt from the work requirement.
   407. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:06 PM (#5673487)
The #failing Onion: Netanyahu Announces Day Of Mourning For Fence Damaged In Yesterday’s Conflict
   408. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:10 PM (#5673493)
Listen, I get that Jews got a raw deal for a while in history


It was a rough 2000 years, but get over yourselves.
   409. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:13 PM (#5673495)
Israel is a (relatively) wealthy nuclear power, with a strong extremely well trained military, and strong security mindset.


Also completely surrounded by hostile forces outnumbering them, what, 100-1?

Meanwhile, as I often note, there is absolutely zero call for Jordan or Syria to return a single acre of Palestinian land.

This isn't about repatriating land. It's about removing the Jews from the land.
   410. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:27 PM (#5673516)
The Dems advantage on the RCP Generic Congressional Ballot is now 5.2%, down from 13% at the start of the year.

Oops, that was yesterday. The Democrats advantage in the the RCP Generic Congressional Vote Poll Average is now down to 4.7%.
   411. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:31 PM (#5673522)
SIC 'EM, JE!

Russia favored Trump in 2016, Senate panel says, breaking with House GOP
The Senate Intelligence Committee has determined that the intelligence community was correct in assessing that Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. election with the aim of helping then-candidate Donald Trump, contradicting findings House Republicans reached last month.

“Our staff concluded that the [intelligence community’s] conclusions were accurate and on point,” the panel’s vice chairman, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), said Wednesday in a joint statement with Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), its chairman. “The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton,” Warner continued.

But that last determination — that Russia intended to help Trump — sets up a clash within the GOP over which record of events is most accurate, a dispute that could complicate the party’s messaging surrounding the Russia investigations as it heads into the 2018 election season. While the House Republicans’ report also concurred with the bulk of the intelligence community’s findings about Russian meddling, it accused officials of not following their own best practices in determining that Moscow hoped Trump would win. ...

Emphasis added.

The link is to the entire article, and Clapper is welcome to quote further from it, and JE is free to cite The Daily Caller in rebuttal.
   412. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5673527)
there is absolutely zero call for Jordan or Syria to return a single acre of Palestinian land.

Considering all the religion out there, isn't the actual important sky fairy land IN Israel, which is why no one cares about Jordan or Syria as much? I'm truly asking, not being snarky. (Except about the sky fairy.)
   413. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:43 PM (#5673528)

But it is in existential danger from a mass invasion.

The idea that Israel is under existential threat makes me laugh quite hard.
You should've laughed less hard and read more hard. It's literally like every single point you made was prebutted in the comment you just responded to.
   414. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:46 PM (#5673534)
The link is to the entire article, and Clapper is welcome to quote further from it, and JE is free to cite The Daily Caller in rebuttal.


It's a big doc dump - but worth noting that the Senate panel also doesn't seem to consider the NRA-Russian connection a nothing burger, either (for the record - sure, I'll put the Beast and the Caller on equal footing... since the Trumpkins like to cite Caller, I'll cite the Beast).

The Senate Judiciary Committee said Wednesday that the Russian government apparently used the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016. “The committee has obtained a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign,” according to a report on the panel’s preliminary findings on Russia and the presidential campaign. The NRA may have been used to “secretly fund Mr. Trump’s campaign,” the report states. While the report didn’t discuss the documents, it said two Russian nationals—Alexander Torshin and Maria Butina—were “involved in this effort.” Torshin, a member of Russia’s central bank, hosted an NRA delegation in Moscow in 2013. Butina, founder of a pro-gun group in Russia, boasted at a Washington, D.C. party following the election that she was “part of the Trump campaign’s communications with Russia,” The Daily Beast reported last year.
   415. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:53 PM (#5673541)
Clapper, #410:
The Dems advantage on the RCP Generic Congressional Ballot is now 5.2%, down from 13% at the start of the year.

Oops, that was yesterday. The Democrats advantage in the the RCP Generic Congressional Vote Poll Average is now down to 4.7%.

Looks like Clapper's moved off his soaring Trump approval renaissance, not to mention the rising soybean market.

538's just-updated generic House ballot has the Democrats ahead by 6.2%. They list 319 polls dating back to January 2017. The longest stretch in which the Democrats' margin reached 13% or better was from late December into January. It reached 13% in 7 of 20 polls, and in 10 of 40-- or by Clapper's clear preference, 2 in a row. This atypical spike went unnoticed by Yankee Clapper when it was happening, but its memory has become important to him today.

Sabato's Crystal Ball, last week:
The Very Stable House Generic Ballot
Outside of a high in December, the Democrats have held a lead of roughly six to eight points


On average, Democrats led the generic ballot by 7.1 points over the past year. The monthly average ranged from 6.2 points in February 2018 to 10.1 points in December 2017. The December result was clearly an outlier, however, and may have led to a misinterpretation of more recent results as indicating a significant decline in the Democratic lead.
It certainly may have.

While acknowledging volatility and margins of error, Sabato's Senior Columnist Alan Abramowitz goes on to say that their prediction model indicates that just a 4% Democratic advantage would be likely to flip 23 seats.
   416. BrianBrianson Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:58 PM (#5673544)
Regardless, Israel is the only state people demand be under existential threats before it can respond to violence with violence. And really, any state that doesn't maintain something approaching a monopoly on violence, and at least a rough rule of law, will quickly face existential threats.

If you turned up to attack an American border crossing, or to chant while other people attacked an American border crossing, there's an excellent chance you'd get shot.
   417. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:58 PM (#5673545)
If the excerpt in #414 isn't a nothingburger, what is? Nothing more than mystery documents that "suggest" some people met other people.
   418. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:04 PM (#5673550)
The Dems advantage on the RCP Generic Congressional Ballot is now 5.2%, down from 13% at the start of the year.

Oops, that was yesterday. The Democrats advantage in the the RCP Generic Congressional Vote Poll Average is now down to 4.7%.

538's just-updated generic House ballot has the Democrats ahead by 6.2%. They list 319 polls dating back to January 2017. The longest stretch in which the Democrats' margin reached 13% or better was from late December into January.

So, 538 shows a similar trend to RCP. That probably means something - at the very least that the election is still ahead of us, not already decided.
   419. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:04 PM (#5673551)
Considering all the religion out there, isn't the actual important sky fairy land IN Israel, which is why no one cares about Jordan or Syria as much? I'm truly asking, not being snarky. (Except about the sky fairy.)
The premise of your question is flawed. Your question is based on the idea that what this is about is religiously-significant land (e.g., the Al Aqsa Mosque). But that's not what Palestinians are demanding. They demand the so-called Right of Return -- that is, their ancestors lived (e.g.) in a village outside Haifa 70 years ago, and they want to go 'back' there.


Note that some Islamic extremists do hold to the doctrine of Dar Al Islam, which contains within it the belief that any land ever held under Islamic rule must remain so forever. So, for instance, Osama/Al Qaeda were/are still upset about losing Al Andalus -- the Iberian peninsula -- despite the fact that it's been over 500 years since the Reconquista. So, those people would be more upset over Israel than Jordan or Syria simply because Jordan and Syria are not controlled by non-Muslims. But that's not really the animating principle behind the Palestinian cause.
   420. tshipman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:05 PM (#5673552)
If the excerpt in #414 isn't a nothingburger, what is? Nothing more than mystery documents that "suggest" some people met other people.


More nothingburgers.

Donald Trump's fixer asked a Qatari investor for millions for the Trump family, reports the Daily Mail.
   421. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:16 PM (#5673562)
re: #420
You guys sure you want to vouch for a Daily Mail report based on single unnamed foreign source making uncorroborated hearsay allegations? Because I think that's your problem right there.
   422. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:19 PM (#5673565)
re: #419, thanks David.
   423. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:23 PM (#5673570)
Clapper, #418:
So, 538 shows a similar trend to RCP. That probably means something - at the very least that the election is still ahead of us, not already decided.


The very least is right.

It's amazing how you ignored something as explicit as "The December result was clearly an outlier, however, and may have led to a misinterpretation of more recent results as indicating a significant decline in the Democratic lead" to say "See, I was right!"

With the one brief exception you've fixated upon (five months after it occurred), Democrats have led the generic ballot by 6% to 8%. 538 says they continue to do so.

But I guess if you could whoop it up over a 1% bump in Trump's approval (since vanished) based on a single bounce poll (since reversed), this ground level roller coaster ride must be just as exciting to you.
   424. Traderdave Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5673579)
   425. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5673582)
It's amazing how you ignored something as explicit as "The December result was clearly an outlier, however, and may have led to a misinterpretation of more recent results as indicating a significant decline in the Democratic lead" to say "See, I was right!"

With the one brief exception you fixated upon five months after it occurred, Democrats have led the generic ballot by 6% to 8%. 538 says they continue to do so. But I guess if you could whoop it up over a 1% bump in Trump's approval (since vanished) based on a single outlier poll (since reversed), this ground level roller coaster ride must be just as exciting to you.

No, everything I said about the RCP Generic Congressional Vote Poll Average was correct. For some reason, rather than admit that, you selectively cite a different poll aggregation over a different time period (with no link, yet again), while misstating the Democrats advantage in the RCP average. At RCP, the Democrats peaked at +13% at the end of 2017, start of 2018, but they had a lead greater than 8% as recently as March. The race has tighten noticeably, when measured from the start of the year or two months ago. Smoke & mirrors doesn't change that.
   426. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:42 PM (#5673585)
re: #420
You guys sure you want to vouch for a Daily Mail report based on single unnamed foreign source making uncorroborated hearsay allegations? Because I think that's your problem right there.


Me, I'm relying on the Republican Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who says that “The Russian effort [in the 2016 election] was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton".

   427. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:42 PM (#5673586)
So...

With the numbers saying toss-up - and the trend even running in Clapper's direction....

I don't normally bet politics, but what the hell.

Let's do it, Clapper.

Straight up bet on House control.

$1000 work?
   428. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 02:57 PM (#5673602)
Me, I'm relying on the Republican Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who says that “The Russian effort [in the 2016 election] was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton".


You think we're so innocent?
   429. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:04 PM (#5673608)
Me, I'm relying on the Republican Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee . . .

Of course, that's about a totally different matter than the Daily Mail story being pushed in #420. It appears Andy doesn't want to vouch for the Daily Mail story, either, which was my point. Perhaps he needs to explain it to tshipman?
   430. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5673618)
Continues to amaze me that otherwise rational people misconstrue the power dynamics in the ME. I'm sure the "2000 years" comments means a lot to those born in Palestine this year. But hey the Jews can do what they want because history folks.

But Jews can't be racist, right?
   431. tshipman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5673654)
Of course, that's about a totally different matter than the Daily Mail story being pushed in #420. It appears Andy doesn't want to vouch for the Daily Mail story, either, which was my point. Perhaps he needs to explain it to tshipman?


Gosh, why would anyone think that Michael Cohen shaking down Al-Rumaihi for money after the election being credible?

Especially when Al-Rumaihi bragged about bribing administration officials later?

Totally ridiculous story! Obviously nothing to it!
   432. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5673655)
Anyone can be racist. Not just you white devils!
   433. BrianBrianson Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5673661)
Sure, Jews can be racist. But's it's pretty rich to say "power dynamics in the ME" and model it as though the British Mandate of Palestine was launched into an otherwise unoccupied parallel dimension and now constitutes the whole of the Middle East.
   434. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5673663)
You know, I used to have mixed feelings about these sort of doxxing episodes - I know Shaun King does a lot of them, but they seem to have really grown by leaps and bounds of late. There's a rather humorous meme that continues to circulate twitter about the Yale woman who called the cops on her dorm mate for snoozing while black in the dorm lounge that keeps rolling... and the intertubes seem to have a spate of them lately - this guy from a coffee shop, this guy who had the cops called on him for returning something to a Hobby Lobby, this guy examining a property he just purchased, etc

I used to think it's a little gauche, etc... and I suppose to some extent, I still do.

But that said, in all of these instances - I could link several more just from the last day or so - it's the case of an individual going out of his way to be a Trump-like ####### to someone who is doing nothing more than existing... Guy standing in line front of a woman wearing a hajib? For some reason feels the need to be an ####### to someone he's never met. Customer speaking Spanish? Stranger feels the need to start ranting. And on and on.

For the last month or so, I've been spending a lot of time in what one might call Trump country (family stuff I'm attending to) and while, sure - I do have a small urge to vomit (and direct the vomit onto the wearer) when I see a MAGA hat, I actually do manage to avoid doing so, much less start berating some stranger I know very little about. I manage to stand in line with such folks - and even politely interact with them (i.e., "were you next or was I?") without screeching at random people because they are dressed, speak, or have different skin pigmentation than I do.

So, as much as I still have a little discomfort with the idea - and in particular, that some loon takes such outings to illegal extremes - I've gotten over it.

#### it.

It's not that difficult to go about your business - get a coffee, grab lunch, whatever - without being an ####### to random strangers that don't meet your high-minded ideal of real people.

So, I no longer bother with tsk-tsk.

You think the Trump era has given you license you let your racist, bigot flag fly in random public situations? I think modern technology will make you pay for it.

Life is about trade-offs and if you think Trump has given you license to be an ####### to strangers whenever you please, then I don't really care as much anymore if the trade-off said person alone initiated causes problems. By all means, I'll still support appropriate legal penalties should someone take these doxxings to illegal ends...

But like I said, life is about trade-offs... and I've arrived at a place where the trade-off of people feeling some Trumpian need to be ######## to strangers warrants them becoming briefly internet famous, and short of criminal harm or vandalism, they experience some manner of personal discomfort that modern technology enables.

Whatever.

It's not hard to NOT scream at strangers in public places.
   435. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5673665)

But Jews can't be racist, right?
It's weird how people who only dislike Israel somehow randomly bring up random Jews in other countries when supposedly criticizing Israel.
   436. OCF Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5673673)
The news story I'm trying to follow today - I don't have have any particularly good links, but several places have bits and pieces of it. There was an explosion yesterday in a building (some kind of medical office?) in Orange County, CA. Aliso Viejo, to be specific - newish, upscale part of south Orange County. One fatality, several injuries. Appears to be an intentional criminal act; maybe a package bomb. So far I have no clue about who the target was, or who or with what sort of motivation might have done this. FBI definitely involved in the investigation; there seem to have been some search warrants executed. So far the police/FBI are being pretty tight-lipped.
   437. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:55 PM (#5673676)
I don't normally bet politics, but what the hell. Let's do it, Clapper.

Zonk, I have no need for, or interest in, your funny Canadian money. Neither have I made any prediction on the midterm, just noted that the RCP GCB poll average has tightened noticeably since January, or even March. Long ago, I noted that the Democrats might capture the House, since they only need a pick-up within the recent historical average gain for the opposition party. Laughably, there was an immediate push-back that I was setting far too high a bar for success, since not every midterm produces gains that meet the historical average. Duh! Politics outside Lake Wonegone has always been like that. Now, there is no guarantee that the current political climate will be the political climate in November, but those disputing that the current climate is somewhat better for the GOP than that in January or March are engaging in partisan spin.
   438. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 03:57 PM (#5673681)
Zonk, I have no need for, or interest in, your funny Canadian money. Neither have I made any prediction on the midterm, just noted that the RCP GCB poll average has tightened noticeably since January, or even March. Long ago, I noted that the Democrats might capture the House, since they only need a pick-up within the recent historical average gain for the opposition party. Laughably, there was an immediate push-back that I was setting far too high a bar for success, since not every midterm produces gains that meet the historical avaerage. Duh! Politics outside Lake Wonegone has always been like that. Now, there is no guarantee that the current political climate will be the political climate in November, but those disputing that the current climate is somewhat better for the GOP than that in January or March are engaging in partisan spin.


No need to be verbose.

You could have just said BWAK-BWAK-BWAK.

Or, if you're so inclined... pick a Bluth.
   439. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:01 PM (#5673686)
Me, I'm relying on the Republican Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee . . .

Of course, that's about a totally different matter than the Daily Mail story being pushed in #420. It appears Andy doesn't want to vouch for the Daily Mail story, either, which was my point. Perhaps he needs to explain it to tshipman?


Since I don't generally read the Daily Mail, I don't like to make comments about their credibility one way or the other. But of course I'm waiting for you to respond to the Republican Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which you didn't bother to do when I posted that non-Daily Mail and non-Guardian article in #411.
   440. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5673689)
Since I don't generally read the Daily Mail, I don't like to make comments about their credibility one way or the other.


Hint. Their nickname is the Daily Fail.

And now you know!
   441. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5673694)
Found the Torygraph reader!
   442. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5673712)
Presented with as much smugness as I can muster (honestly not much, since I think looking at primary vote totals is sketchy at best) - Republicans Not Showing Strength In Pennsylvania

First Read: “Two years after Donald Trump shocked the political world by winning Pennsylvania in the general election (and after Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., surprisingly won re-election, too), the GOP isn’t showing the same kind of strength — at least from last night’s primary returns. The competitive GOP Senate primary between Barletta and James Christiana got fewer votes (a combined 681,000) than incumbent Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., got in running unopposed (743,000). Additionally, more Democrats turned out to vote in PA-1 (49,000 vs. 47,000) and PA-7 primaries (45,000 vs. 31,700), which will be competitive general-election races come November.”


And amusing but not terribly significant ... A top EU leader just slammed Trump on Twitter

“Looking at latest decisions of @realDonaldTrump someone could even think: with friends like that who needs enemies,” Tusk tweeted. “But frankly, EU should be grateful. Thanks to him we got rid of all illusions. We realise that if you need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of your arm.”

This is, to put it mildly, not how the head of the European Council typically speaks about the American president. The fact that Tusk is tweeting in this way speaks to how furious Europe as a collective is with some of Trump’s policies, most notably his decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal — a decision that could end up kicking off a major trade fight between the US and Europe.
   443. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5673715)
It was a rough 2000 years, but get over yourselves.


2000? More like 5000+.
   444. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:47 PM (#5673736)
The competitive GOP Senate primary between Barletta and James Christiana got fewer votes (a combined 681,000) than incumbent Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., got in running unopposed (743,000).

Bitter Mouse's source, Taegan's Goddard's Political Wire, is only slightly less partisan than his usual Daily Kos links. There were Congressional primaries, many with multi-candidate fields, all over Pennsylvania, largely due to the new court-imposed Congressional Districts, giving Democratic primary voters as much reason to turn out as Republicans, which is acknowledged elsewhere in the article. It should surprise no one that Democrats interested in their Congressional Primary also cast a vote for their incumbent Democratic Senator.
   445. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:53 PM (#5673742)
Bitter Mouse's source, Taegan's Goddard's Political Wire, is only slightly less partisan than his usual Daily Kos links. There were Congressional primaries, many with multi-candidate fields, all over Pennsylvania, largely due to the new court-imposed Congressional Districts, giving Democratic primary voters as much reason to turn out as Republicans, which is acknowledged elsewhere in the article. It should surprise no one that Democrats interested in their Congressional Primary also cast a vote for their incumbent Democratic Senator.

koo-koo-KaCHA... koo-koo-kaCHA!
   446. Hot Wheeling American, MS-13 Enthusiast Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:55 PM (#5673745)
@elisefoley:
“These aren’t people. These are animals.” - Trump says of (some of) the immigrants being deported during his sanctuary cities roundtable

The leader of the Republican Party, folks. And the United States of America :(
   447. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 04:58 PM (#5673748)
The leader of the Republican Party, folks. And the United States of America :(


I guess this would be a good time for John Kelly to assure people who think people are people that his "whatever" would mean only no kill animal shelters.
   448. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 16, 2018 at 05:53 PM (#5673799)
It was a rough 2000 years, but get over yourselves.

2000? More like 5000+.

5000! Even better!
   449. tshipman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:04 PM (#5673806)
Of course, that's about a totally different matter than the Daily Mail story being pushed in #420. It appears Andy doesn't want to vouch for the Daily Mail story, either, which was my point. Perhaps he needs to explain it to tshipman?


What if the guy getting the bribe offer confirms the story, Clapper?

When al-Rumaihi asked Cohen more generally about important projects that the investment fund should back, Cohen said there were plenty of options. But Cohen said he would need $1 million first, as part of his fee, al-Rumaihi told The Intercept.

Cohen moved the discussion along, saying “we can discuss those details later,” al-Rumaihi said. Al-Rumaihi remembered struggling to find words to reply, and finally saying, “OK.” Al-Rumaihi said he didn’t mean to signal agreement, but rather, as he recalled later, “that we would discuss those details later and explain why QIA, as a matter of strict policy, does not pay middleman fees in any transactions.”
   450. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:08 PM (#5673808)
Rudy!


“All they get to do is write a report,” Giuliani told CNN. “They can’t indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us.”


My POTUS client is a dirty crook who may have committed crimes, but the team investigating him acknowledges the likely legal distinction that he's above the law and can only be impeached, so nyah-nyah-nyah!

Just makes a Trumpkin swell with pride, doesn't it?
   451. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:13 PM (#5673812)
“that we would discuss those details later and explain why QIA, as a matter of strict policy, does not pay middleman fees in any transactions.”


Two things I never thought I'd see.

#1 - that those mind-numbing corporate policy videos I have to watch and acknowledge annually about side pays, gifts, benefits, and/or asks in regards to any government or government adjacent business actually do apply to some people and,

#2 - that it would the US as the unnamed country involved.

Seriously... bravo, Trumpkins, just bravo. You have truly made America great.
   452. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:14 PM (#5673813)
“These aren’t people. These are animals.” - Trump says of (some of) the immigrants being deported during his sanctuary cities roundtable

The leader of the Republican Party, folks. And the United States of America


Hey, they could be any animal - maybe a cute fluffy bunny!
   453. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:15 PM (#5673816)
Seriously... bravo, Trumpkins, just bravo. You have truly made America great.


Your condescending sarcasm is the reason Trump won, libtard.
   454. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:19 PM (#5673817)
The stupid porn star payoff everybody knew was a stupid porn star payoff when it was reported as a stupid porn star payoff should have been disclosed back when Trump made when he knew was a stupid porn star payoff.

Film at 11.

   455. Traderdave Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:25 PM (#5673818)
The stupid porn star payoff everybody knew was a stupid porn star payoff when it was reported as a stupid porn star payoff should have been disclosed back when Trump made when he knew was a stupid porn star payoff.


Stormy Daniels is far from stupid.
   456. SY Ruined School Lunches! Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:29 PM (#5673820)
I love the whole sequence where Trump blamed Saudi Arabia for terrorism all campaign, then they threw him that unbelievably gauche party and he was like “uhh, turns of it was Qatar, they’re the ones who were doing the terror.”

It probably has something to do with his son in law trying to sell his stupid building, but it’s also possible Trump saw a bunch of tacky gold crap in SA and changed his mind.

   457. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:31 PM (#5673822)
Stormy Daniels is far from stupid.


Oh, she's just as genius as Kanye West - I meant the "stupid" adjective to apply to the payoff (or entirety of "porn star payoff"). I guess I should have employed more dashes or quotes or some such.
   458. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:33 PM (#5673823)
Well, Qatar is eying a stake in Newsmax precisely to get itself out of the bad corner, so whether they were/are/will is immaterial.

They won't be soon, should they go through with the purchase.
   459. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:35 PM (#5673824)
Yankee Clapper to Bitter Mouse, #444:
The competitive GOP Senate primary between Barletta and James Christiana got fewer votes (a combined 681,000) than incumbent Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., got in running unopposed (743,000).

Bitter Mouse's source, Taegan's Goddard's Political Wire, is only slightly less partisan than his usual Daily Kos links. There were Congressional primaries, many with multi-candidate fields, all over Pennsylvania, largely due to the new court-imposed Congressional Districts, giving Democratic primary voters as much reason to turn out as Republicans, which is acknowledged elsewhere in the article. It should surprise no one that Democrats interested in their Congressional Primary also cast a vote for their incumbent Democratic Senator.

No, everything Bitter Mouse said about the respective Pennsylvania vote totals was correct. For some reason, rather than admit that, Yankee Clapper selectively cites a different election aggregation over different individual races (with no link, suspiciously), while misstating the Democrats' supposedly equal motivation to vote. But the generic Congressional ballot's dramatic drop from a 13% Democratic lead shows that Republicans are now the more energized side. Nevertheless, Republicans are in a noticeably tighter position in Pennsylvania, when measured from the start of the year or two months ago. Smoke & mirrors doesn't change that.
   460. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:43 PM (#5673825)
We're 6 months away from Election Day. I wouldn't put any stock in any polls until late summer. Entirely too many variables between now and then. At this point even the campaigns are still worrying about the primary. Most of them probably haven't done a single data analysis for the general yet.
   461. zenbitz Posted: May 16, 2018 at 06:55 PM (#5673832)
Israel is the only state people demand be under existential threats before it can respond to violence with violence


No this is not true. I criticize ALL states who use excessive violence against weaker parties. China - Bad, Russia - Bad, Turkey - Bad, Syria - Bad. Indonesia - Bad, Is it Yemen? One of the gulf states. And that's just current events. Great Britain -> Northern Ireland, Burma/Myanmar. South Africa. Cambodia. Vietnam. Chile. Cuba. Serbia. I am sure I missing a few (dozen). Iran almost certainly vis-a-vis current Iraq.
   462. greenback slays lewks Posted: May 16, 2018 at 07:07 PM (#5673835)
Well, Qatar is eying a stake in Newsmax precisely to get itself out of the bad corner, so whether they were/are/will is immaterial.

They won't be soon, should they go through with the purchase.

IMHO this was Israel's big concern over Iran, that the mullahs would consolidate enough capital to buy into the vast right wing conspiracy. At that point Israel is facing an existential threat.
   463. Chicago Joe Posted: May 16, 2018 at 07:13 PM (#5673838)
Zonk: try rubles.
   464. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 07:55 PM (#5673850)
Follow-up on the SARs discussion...

On Wednesday, the New Yorker revealed that Cohen’s leaked banking data came from a so-called “suspicious activity report,” which are used in the financial industry to flag suspicious activity to Treasury Department regulators. A TPM reader surmised as much earlier this month.

The unnamed law enforcement official who came forward to the New Yorker also said that the report he leaked referenced two other SARs, both of which are missing. The two missing SARs “documented even larger flows of questionable money into Cohen’s account,” the New Yorker reported: more than $3 million in total.


Might be worth watching.
   465. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:00 PM (#5673854)
He was paying blackmail money to Hillary to keep from being murdered like Seth Rich! Go ahead and defend her now, hippies.
   466. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:07 PM (#5673857)
Just a leaker with TDS, I guess.

Unless - is leaking SARs from FINCEN because you're concerned with the highly unusual missing nature of related SARs one of those crimes that doesn't really count as a crime because who cares! shut up! FISA! Footnotes! Deep State!... ?

Suspicious-activity reports are kept strictly confidential, as a matter of law. “SARs are secret, to protect the government and to protect financial institutions,” the former prosecutor told me. “I don’t think there’s a safe harbor for somebody who discloses it.” According to FinCEN, disclosing a SAR is a federal offense, carrying penalties including fines of up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and imprisonment for up to five years. The official who released the suspicious-activity reports was aware of the risks, but said fears that the missing reports might be suppressed compelled the disclosure. “We’ve accepted this as normal, and this is not normal,” the official said. “Things that stand out as abnormal, like documents being removed from a system, are of grave concern to me.” Of the potential for legal consequences, the official said, “To say that I am terrified right now would be an understatement.” But, referring to the released report, as well as the potential contents of the missing reports, the official also added, “This is a terrifying time to be an American, to be in this situation, and to watch all of this unfold.”
   467. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:09 PM (#5673858)
All focus groups are suspect because of sample size, but what the hell......

Trump voters warn him not to fire Mueller: ‘People would be suspicious’
BROOKFIELD, Wis. — They see the Russia investigation as President Trump does, as a witch hunt that has expanded far beyond its initial mandate with the explicit aim of delegitimizing or perhaps even overturning his 2016 election victory.

Yet these most steadfast of Trump supporters, who were among those gathered here Tuesday night as part of a focus group evaluating public opinion, said the president should not fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, a view shared by the Trump critics around the table.

“People would be suspicious,” said Betsy Novak, 55, a greenhouse worker who voted for Trump.

“It [would be] hiding something,” said Curt Hetzel, 48, a shipping and receiving manager who also voted for Trump.

“Politically, it would be a terrible idea,” said yet another Trump backer, Sam Goldner, 25, a warehouse manager.

These three were among the 12 men and women assembled for a two-hour focus group in this Milwaukee suburb, a perennial suburban swing area in a state that helped propel Trump to a surprise victory and is home to competitive Senate and gubernatorial contests this fall.

The opinions voiced here Tuesday night about Trump’s governing record and conduct in office — as well as the intensifying Mueller investigation — largely split along party lines, a vivid illustration of the deep divides across the country ahead of the November midterm elections.

“Partisan America is alive and well in Wisconsin,” Peter D. Hart, a longtime Democratic pollster who led the focus group here on behalf of Emory University, said in reflection. “I felt that people are pretty frozen in place. The one thing they agreed with was Robert Mueller should not be fired. That’s about as close as they get to a unified position.” ....
   468. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:14 PM (#5673862)
No this is not true. I criticize ALL states who use excessive violence against weaker parties. China - Bad, Russia - Bad, Turkey - Bad, Syria - Bad. Indonesia - Bad, Is it Yemen? One of the gulf states. And that's just current events. Great Britain -> Northern Ireland, Burma/Myanmar. South Africa. Cambodia. Vietnam. Chile. Cuba. Serbia. I am sure I missing a few (dozen). Iran almost certainly vis-a-vis current Iraq.


I'll go further (or perhaps just as far) and note that I also criticize the US when it uses excessive and/or unwarranted force. It is about the action kiddos and not the flag.

And for the record I don't think the US would behave all that much (if at all) better than Israel has and does if the US were in analogous circumstances. When I criticize Israel it is for engaging in actions that I find unacceptable and I find those actions such even if my own nation does them.
   469. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:15 PM (#5673863)
Trump voters warn him not to fire Mueller: ‘People would be suspicious’


Call me less than heartened.

You'll notice the distinct lack of I'd or I... the concern seems to be that - horrors! - the Real American Salt of the Earthers might have to concede points to those damnable effete elitists who taunt them so.
   470. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:20 PM (#5673865)
   471. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:25 PM (#5673866)
Anybody starting to notice that there seem to be a lot of convergences of potential RUSSIA RUSSIA news in Summer 2016 timeframe?

And especially, leading up to and after a certain convention that took place a few weeks after a certain meeting in a certain tower?
   472. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:54 PM (#5673872)
Bitter Mouse's source, Taegan's Goddard's Political Wire, is only slightly less partisan than his usual Daily Kos links.


So the really funny part of this is Taegan's Goddard's Political Wire is an aggregation site and the story in question came entirely - as in 100% - from NBC (First Read).

First Read is your briefing from "Meet the Press" and the NBC Political Unit on the day's most important political stories and why they matter.


So yeah, I guess we need to add NBC to the giant and ever growing pile of evil Liberal news sources.
   473. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 08:55 PM (#5673874)
Anybody starting to notice that there seem to be a lot of convergences of potential RUSSIA RUSSIA news in Summer 2016 timeframe?


No convergence, no convergence. You’re the convergence!
   474. SouthSideRyan Posted: May 16, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5673875)
Their leader(who appeared on Infowars) already added NBC to his list of unacceptable news sources
   475. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2018 at 09:06 PM (#5673879)
Their leader(who appeared on Infowars) already added NBC to his list of unacceptable news sources


Maybe it would be easier to build a list of news sources acceptable to the snowflakes.
   476. Srul Itza Posted: May 16, 2018 at 09:34 PM (#5673891)
We're 6 months away from Election Day. I wouldn't put any stock in any polls until late summer except the ones they report on election night.


FTFY
   477. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2018 at 09:54 PM (#5673903)
So is Politico on the approved list of sources? GOP golden boy mails it in

The scene encapsulated widespread concerns about Hawley. Star-struck Senate Republican leaders anointed the 38-year-old, Stanford- and Yale- educated state attorney general as their top recruit of 2018 — a squeaky-clean figure they saw as the future of the party and an ideal opponent to take on the endangered Democratic incumbent, Sen. Claire McCaskill.

Yet as the campaign season kicks into high gear, many Republicans worry that Hawley — who openly admits he had no intention of running for Senate until he was pressured into it — is squandering his shot.

In interviews with more than two dozen senior Republican strategists, donors, lawmakers and local officials, Hawley was depicted as a lackadaisical candidate who has posted sluggish fundraising numbers, turned down interviews with conservative radio show hosts, and spurned traditional GOP events considered a rite of passage for a potential U.S. senator.

"I am personally baffled and disappointed that the guy I've had on my show numerous times over the last four years and have been supportive of has been MIA," Mark Reardon, a veteran conservative radio show host in St. Louis whose program Hawley has shunned in recent months, said in an interview. "I'm pissed. I'm frustrated."


More frustration with him after the link. Sen. Claire McCaskill sure is lucky about her opponents*. She is a good politician also, of course.

* Not that he has won the GOP primary yet, of course.
   478. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 09:57 PM (#5673907)
Follow-up on the SARs discussion...
Speaking of which, Novartis's general counsel becomes the next casualty in the Michael Cohen corruption saga.
   479. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:00 PM (#5673912)
And Time, is Time OK? President Trump 'Doesn't Think He Needs' to Prepare Much for His Meeting With North Korea's Kim Jong Un

With just one month until a scheduled sit-down with North Korea’s leader, President Donald Trump hasn’t set aside much time to prepare for meeting with Kim Jong Un, a stark contrast to the approach of past presidents.

“He doesn’t think he needs to,” said a senior administration official familiar with the President’s preparation. Aides plan to squeeze in time for Trump to learn more about Kim’s psychology and strategize on ways to respond to offers Kim may make in person, but so far a detailed plan hasn’t been laid out for getting Trump ready for the summit.


Least surprising news today. Man I hope it falls through.
   480. zenbitz Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:15 PM (#5673922)
Novartis is a Swiss company so I am not really sure why they care about unseemly payments to a US bag man.
   481. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:31 PM (#5673929)
Novartis is a Swiss company so I am not really sure why they care about unseemly payments to a US bag man.


For one thing - they've been involved in multiple bribery cases, literally across the globe. There's a point where being Swiss alone doesn't shield you from some manner of impact.

It's neither surprising that Trump's bag man would be involved in shakedowns on a DC level nor that he would do it in such a ham-handed, half-assed, ridiculously sleazy way that even a company well-versed in bribing governments couldn't swallow it.

Let me just say again - well done, Trumpkins!
   482. Ray (CTL) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:46 PM (#5673939)
Rudy!


“All they get to do is write a report,” Giuliani told CNN. “They can’t indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us.”


My POTUS client is a dirty crook who may have committed crimes, but the team investigating him acknowledges the likely legal distinction that he's above the law and can only be impeached, so nyah-nyah-nyah!

Just makes a Trumpkin swell with pride, doesn't it?


I've been saying that Trump as a sitting president is above the law in various ways per the Constitution for a while now. Mostly in response to people who unthinkingly utter the Bitter Mousean bromide "Nobody is above the law in this country!" Yes, a sitting president is, in some ways.

That said, the Justice Department doesn't _have_ to follow their own guidelines, and I suspect that if the crimes were that bad they wouldn't. But here Rudy -- if he is not lying -- says that Mueller's team already conceded to Trump that they will abide by their policy.

The remedy for crimes is impeachment and then prosecution, to the extent the new president hasn't/can't pardon the removed president.
   483. Count Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:48 PM (#5673942)
Re 464 - The SAR story is hard to believe - if it's actually true that the SARs were missing from the database it seems likely they were just put on a restricted access list. As Julian Sanchez said on twitter, it was beneficial to the public to see the SARs but that excuse for leaking them is pretty weak.

   484. tshipman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:25 PM (#5673960)
I've been saying that Trump as a sitting president is above the law in various ways per the Constitution for a while now. Mostly in response to people who unthinkingly utter the Bitter Mousean bromide "Nobody is above the law in this country!" Yes, a sitting president is, in some ways.

That said, the Justice Department doesn't _have_ to follow their own guidelines, and I suspect that if the crimes were that bad they wouldn't. But here Rudy -- if he is not lying -- says that Mueller's team already conceded to Trump that they will abide by their policy.

The remedy for crimes is impeachment and then prosecution, to the extent the new president hasn't/can't pardon the removed president.


Right. I think I heard on Lawfareblog that prosecutors think Mueller is patterning his investigation off of Archibald Cox. The idea would be to put together a report that documents everything, refer it to congress (potentially making it public, depending on the material), and then let congress take it from there.
   485. Ray (CTL) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:28 PM (#5673961)
Rudy doesn't have to worry about Trump not paying him; he said today that he's representing Trump pro bono.

Which means we've confirmed that Trump is overpaying.

Eventually this might all lead here:

"Rudy, you're fired."
"But... you're not even paying me."
"That's what makes this so difficult."
   486. Count Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:35 PM (#5673965)
The "above the law" commentary is odd - even if he's not indicted he's not "above the law", he is just (arguably) not subject to indictment while president. Not being subject to certain types of criminal process doesn't make you above the law.
   487. Ray (CTL) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:49 PM (#5673971)
I confess to being fascinated by the Rudy interviews. He's wrong on the facts. He's wrong on the law. His legal arguments put his client in greater legal jeopardy. He's wrong on the history. He's wrong on what happened in the Bill Clinton case. He's wrong about what the Justice Department policy is. He's wrong on the types of legal arguments he can make, as he presents beyond frivolous ones -- actually incorrect ones. He doesn't understand the difference between subpoena and indictment; he thinks the case law on one applies equally to the other.

He is an utter disaster. It's hilariously intriguing to watch, actually.
   488. Ray (CTL) Posted: May 17, 2018 at 12:13 AM (#5673981)
If you were representing Trump in this matter would you familiarize yourself with the law on subpoenaing sitting presidents? On indicting them? Would you familiarize yourself with the Justice Department policies and guidelines on the subjects? Would you know cold what happened in the BClinton case? The Nixon one? The earlier ones?

There's no evidence Rudy has done any of this.

Yet he breezily opines on these matters as your know nothing it all dude on a barstool would. Though as Trump's lawyer the stakes are higher.
   489. greenback slays lewks Posted: May 17, 2018 at 12:36 AM (#5673983)
Yet he breezily opines on these matters as your know nothing it all dude on a barstool would.

It works for his boss, with post #479 serving as the latest example. As Scott Adams might point out, Giuliani's job is not to cater to the needs of lawyers and other Internet experts. This is a political issue more than a legal question.

Giuliani may or may not be replaced, but as long as he gets media attention, I think he serves a purpose for Trump. People like JE will use Giuliani as a signal that they can keep repeating absurd conspiracies, while somehow remaining "respectable" to the rest of the political class. In that sense, Giuliani is a kind of Baghdad Bob, a useful gauge of Saddam Hussein's regime. Sure, he is spouting nonsense, but as long as the journalists keep disseminating this nonsense, it means the administration is still functioning.
   490. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 17, 2018 at 05:39 AM (#5673994)
I've been saying that Trump as a sitting president is above the law in various ways per the Constitution for a while now. Mostly in response to people who unthinkingly utter the Bitter Mousean bromide "Nobody is above the law in this country!" Yes, a sitting president is, in some ways.
It doesn't get any less wrong no matter how many times you pat yourself on the back for saying it. Especially since you keep saying "in various ways" or "in various contexts" without actually identifying a single such way or context. There is no question that a sitting president is not above the law. The only issue here is whether a sitting president can be prosecuted before first being impeached/removed, or whether there's that extra step involved. But that extra step would not make him "above the law."
   491. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 17, 2018 at 06:26 AM (#5673995)
Yet he breezily opines on these matters as your know nothing it all dude on a barstool would


What did he do, say global warming was a hoax?
   492. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: May 17, 2018 at 07:02 AM (#5673996)
But that extra step would not make him "above the law."


Hmm. Are you, by any chance, out for justice? Doesn't it seem like Trump is under siege? It seems like his presidency is hard to kill, even though it seems to be marked for death.
   493. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 17, 2018 at 07:20 AM (#5673998)
I've been saying that Trump as a sitting president is above the law in various ways per the Constitution for a while now. Mostly in response to people who unthinkingly utter the Bitter Mousean bromide "Nobody is above the law in this country!" Yes, a sitting president is, in some ways.


Um, what?

I have never said any such thing (either version, above or not above) or anything even vaguely similar. Nice random attack though, I guess. And I'm the one who has argued with many here that impeachment is not yet warranted, so how about you keep me out of your weird fever dreams. I don't want to be in your head, rent free or not.
   494. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 17, 2018 at 07:26 AM (#5673999)
#492 - You couldn't squeeze in Executive Decision? Really?

Seriously though, well done.
   495. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: May 17, 2018 at 07:33 AM (#5674000)
Only legitimate presidents can make executive decisions.
   496. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 17, 2018 at 08:04 AM (#5674004)
Yesterday it was the Show Me state, today Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania Republicans hit the panic button over Senate nominee Lou Barletta

Senior Republicans are sounding the alarm about Rep. Lou Barletta's, R-Pa., struggling Senate campaign in Pennsylvania, fretting that his lackadaisical, disorganized effort will hand a third term to incumbent Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa.

President Trump rallied support for Barletta in a string of Wednesday afternoon tweets. But the congressman is taking fire from Republicans at home and in Washington who worried that he is relying too much on the president to boost his flagging Senate bid. Barletta has been a disappointing fundraiser and been too slow to ramp up a capable statewide campaign operation, his critics charge.

"The sense is, nobody knows what the #### he’s doing," a Republican strategist with Pennsylvania ties said, requesting anonymity in order to speak candidly. "He's not really working it hard. It's a sad thing, because people like Lou."


The GOP has to work uphill because they have the presidency, but that should mean working harder and smarter. Still, I can't complain.

Note: I still have not seen a list of OK media sources from Clapper, so I hope this one passes muster.
   497. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: May 17, 2018 at 08:09 AM (#5674005)
It has been a while since we had a good Democrats in Disarray story, and this is not one of those.

Republicans in the middle of an immigration nightmare

Playbook: “Speaker Paul Ryan, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Majority Whip Steve Scalise have spent this week trying to get Republicans to not sign a discharge petition that would open the House floor to a wide-ranging immigration debate. As of now, it’s been a failure.”

“After the trio spent the morning making the argument that this was not the path to go down, two Republicans — New York Rep. John Katko and Michigan Rep. Dave Trott — signed it anyway. That Republicans are openly defying their own leadership is relatively stunning. McCarthy has made the argument that an immigration vote could cost Republicans the majority. That clearly isn’t resonating.”

“Republicans are in a box. The discharge petition is a bad look for a lot of conservatives, who rightly think that the process will lead to a bill that will be carried mostly by Democrats. But it’s a central part of how the House works… Make no mistake this is a mess for the GOP.”


Note: From Politico, but I was led there by the Evil Liberal Aggregation site (link), and I used their synopsis, because it was much less obnoxious. Sue me.
   498. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: May 17, 2018 at 09:14 AM (#5674024)
It has been a while since we had a good Democrats in Disarray story, and this is not one of those.


I was surprised Clapper didn't post anything on the Eastman-Ashford race in Nebraska -- it's been the favorite CW item of DiD this week (Brad Ashford previously held this seat - even made the DCCC's red-to-blue list before winning the primary; but Kara Eastman beat him in the primary by about 3 points).

I know Politico, at least, ran a couple of stories about how damaging this was for Democrats...

Eastman is supposedly unelectable because she took the wild-eyed liberal stance of running on expanding Medicare to universal eligibility.... I'm personally agnostic on the idea (well, maybe not agnostic - I guess I would lukewarm support it, I just don't think it's as easy or inevitably perfect a solution as flipping switch. There would be necessary pain points, lots of details would matter, etc) - but generally speaking, the idea polls exceptionally well... EVERYWHERE.

In any case, it wasn't even a particularly nasty primary (the candidates kids are apparently close friends). Frankly, I think in this environment - Eastman is more likely to win this fall, though, I suspect Ashford would be more likely to hold the seat outside out of a good D wave year.

I think it was pretty clearly a case of certain outlets feelings a need to run some 'crazy Democrat' stories to balance out the various Sheriff Joe/Roy Moore/Don Blankenship/etc stories... but call me crazy - I think there's a difference between the apostasy of running Bernie Sanders healthcare platform and, well.... the other stuff.
   499. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: May 17, 2018 at 09:39 AM (#5674029)
ICE is basically Trumpland's nascent attempt at a gestapo.

There was no reason to doubt Ramirez’s story, and good reason to believe it. If he had been in a gang, after all, the government would’ve already known. To renew his DACA status, Ramirez had to undergo two thorough background checks. Neither turned up any evidence of gang affiliation.

To renew his DACA status, Ramirez had to undergo two thorough background checks. Neither turned up any evidence of gang affiliation.
Yet ICE continued to press its case against Ramirez. In immigration court, agents rested their case on one piece of evidence: a tattoo on Ramirez’s forearm that consists of a nautical star and the words La Paz—BCS, which represent his birthplace, the city of La Paz in Baja California Sur. Ramirez repeatedly insisted that this tattoo had nothing to do with any gang. But an ICE agent claimed that his tattoo actually proved he was “definitely a gang member” because it allegedly looked like the tattoo of the “bulldogs” gang. (It does not.)

Two different immigration judges found no indication that Ramirez was gang affiliated or a threat to public safety. Martin Flores, a gang expert who has consulted in more than 700 cases, testified that he had “never seen a gang member with a similar tattoo nor would [he] attribute this tattoo to have any gang-related meaning.” Another gang expert, Edwina Barvosa, declared that there is “no apparent evidence that [Ramirez] has ever been a gang member himself.” Carlos García, a Mexican researcher who has studied gangs extensively, stated that “this tattoo does not show any gang affiliation.” But ICE still insisted that Ramirez was a gang member, and thus eligible for deportation.
   500. Stormy JE Posted: May 17, 2018 at 09:52 AM (#5674032)
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