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Monday, September 17, 2018

OTP 2018 September 17: How Brett Kavanaugh explains his baseball ticket debt

Kavanaugh described the baseball tickets as part of a group purchase divided amongst friends and avid Washington Nationals fans. Kavanaugh estimated he has attended “a couple hundred games” over the period of 2005 through 2017, when he purchased four season tickets, and also playoff ticket packages for the four years the Nationals reached the National League playoffs.

“I have attended all 11 Nationals home playoff games in their history,” Kavanaugh noted in his answers. “(We are 3-8 in those games.)”
His rationale for the tickets: “I am a huge sports fan.”

Beyond his baseball fandom, Kavanaugh noted in response to questions that has “not had gambling debts or participated in ‘fantasy’ leagues.”

 

(As always, views expressed in the article lede and comments are the views of the individual commenters and the submitter of the article and do not represent the views of Baseball Think Factory or its owner.)

Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 17, 2018 at 09:05 AM | 2479 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1501. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:03 PM (#5748442)
Fox & Friends, August 2017, when Trump was complaining about leaks:
"Call in every person [in the White House], and go ahead and run a lie detector on them. Why don't they do that?"


Fox & Friends, this morning, on whether Judge Kavanaugh should take a lie detector test the way Dr. Ford has:
"It wouldn't hold up in court. Those things they say, they don't hold up in court, they might not, they might prove false, you know, she's saying one thing, and it's really happened or whatever, it doesn't hold up in court, so that's like not even an issue."
   1502. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:06 PM (#5748444)
Some interesting speculation in this Twitter thread about a Kavanaugh doppelgänger classmate who lived in a house similar to the one described by Ford. Of course, if Ford had gone through the normal witness process, we'd already know (or the Committee would) if she knew Kavanaugh's name before the alleged incident, or she only attached Kavanaugh to the incident after the fact.

For someone so concerned about the "smearing" of Kavanaugh, this character sure doesn't seem to mind openly naming and speculating about the "doppelganger", even if he covers himself by saying he has no idea whether anyone at all committed the attempted rape. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
   1503. Count Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:06 PM (#5748445)
Kavanaugh shouldn't take a lie detector test, they're worthless. (If the point is that Trump is an idiot then sure, but I think that's overdetermined at this point!)
   1504. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:12 PM (#5748447)
McClatchy is reporting that Dianne Feinstein's office is receiving rape threats, directed at specific staffers.
   1505. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:17 PM (#5748452)
According to this Huff Po article (it was one of many on the Google News umbrella for Kavs, numerous other outlets, including the Guardian, had a similar article) there are now mulible accounts of Kavs preferring a "certain look" among his clerks:

n a separate occasion last year, Chua offered more detail, telling a group of students that it’s “not an accident” that Kavanaugh’s law clerks “look like models,” Chua said, according to an account published in The Guardian on Thursday. The comments echoed those told to a group of Yale students over drinks with Chua last year, three of whom spoke with HuffPost.

The woman who was warned a few years ago said that she had already heard rumors about Kozinski and had ruled out a clerkship with him.

While she saw the warning about Kozinski as a flashing red signal, the advice on Kavanaugh didn’t stop her from deciding to interview with him.

That’s when Rubenfeld’s wife stepped in. At Yale, Chua is less known as the “tiger mom” and more sought after for her ability to help students land prestigious clerkships with federal judges ― the sort that can ultimately land a student the ultimate prize, a spot clerking for a Supreme Court justice.

Indeed, Kavanaugh was once a clerk for Kozinski before nabbing a spot as Justice Anthony Kennedy’s clerk on the Supreme Court. (Kavanaugh has denied knowing about Kozinski’s reputation with women.)

To the female law student, Chua echoed Rubenfeld’s comments.

“She advised me to be and dress ‘outgoing,’” the former Yale student said. “She strongly urged me to send her pictures of what I was thinking of wearing so she could evaluate. I did not.”


Believe this was posted yesterday but this article does a good job summarizing the various quotes.

Kavs comes across as a bog standard white male conservative shithead. That he's a SCOTUS nominee and not Clay Travis is simply an accident of birthright.
   1506. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:23 PM (#5748456)
McClatchy is reporting that Diane Feinstein's office is receiving rape threats, directed at specific staffers.


People suck. And they really, really need to chill out. Why one would wish harm on another on matters as trivial as political disagreements is beyond me, and extremely childish. And yes, that goes for Sam.
   1507. BDC Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:27 PM (#5748459)
I don't know how much that Chua story says about Kavanaugh per se, but it is a look at the bizarre world of the mirreyes at the pinnacle of the supposed American meritocracy.
   1508. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 08:27 PM (#5748462)
Yikes.

I don't know how much that Chua story says about Kavanaugh per se, but it is a look at the bizarre world of the mirreyes at the pinnacle of the supposed American meritocracy.


Oh totally, it's turtles all the way up, so to speak.
   1509. Chip Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:25 PM (#5748491)
Using libel to avoid calling Ford a liar has certainly gone well:

Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” them, Ford said, adding that she had once visited the other classmate in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”


Washington Post, updating its earlier story.
   1510. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:31 PM (#5748495)
Using libel to avoid calling Ford a liar has certainly gone well:
Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” them, Ford said, adding that she had once visited the other classmate in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”

Washington Post, updating its earlier story.

At least the Post had the common decency not to repeat the slander by naming Whelan's "doppelganger". Leave that sort of crap to Breitbart and Carlson.
   1511. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:38 PM (#5748501)
If true, this report suggests that Ford doesn't actually intend to testify, since her lawyers are seeking to impose unreasonable conditions on her testimony:
Christine Blasey Ford's legal team has asked the Senate Judiciary Committee to agree to certain terms before she sits down for a potential interview over her accusation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her, two sources told Fox News on Thursday night.

Among the terms: Only members of the committee -- no lawyers -- can question her; Kavanaugh cannot be in the room at the time; and Kavanaugh must be questioned first.

Obviously, the accuser testifies first. You can't respond to allegations that haven't been made under oath, hopefully with some specificity. If Ford can't testify without going to school on Kavanaugh's testimony, she's doomed. Her fear of being questioned by a "real lawyer" also doesn't suggest a lot of confidence in her ability.
   1512. Count Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:38 PM (#5748502)
WaPost article also says Republicans are disavowing the Whelan theory, which makes sense because it's really reckless and *specifically names* the supposed doppleganger based on internet sleuthing. WaPost also says that Whelan and Kavanaugh are good friends - Kavanaugh should be asked about his involvement in this theory when they testify (assuming they work out having both Kavanaugh and Ford testify)

   1513. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:46 PM (#5748508)
Looks like it took Clapper about an hour and 45 minutes to forget about Ed Whelan's "interesting" doppelganger theory, and hang a new theory out on the clothes line. And the night is still young.
   1514. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:46 PM (#5748509)
WaPost also says that Whelan and Kavanaugh are good friends . . .

That's no secret. Whelan has repeatedly noted that when he was at DoJ during the George W. Bush Administration, he worked with Kavanaugh who was then in the White Counsel's Office, was impressed by his work, and considers him a friend.
   1515. Count Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:50 PM (#5748511)
That's no secret. Whelan has repeatedly noted that when he was at DoJ during the George W. Bush Administration, he worked with Kavanaugh who was in the White Counsel's Office, was impressed by his work, and considers him a friend.


Kavanaugh definitely needs to be asked about this, then, extraordinarily poor judgment to push this theory out and name another suspect.
   1516. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:52 PM (#5748515)
2 cops shot after warrant served at wrong home:

When a team of officers burst into a District Heights apartment around 10 p.m. to serve the warrant, they didn’t find the suspected drug dealer they had been trying to arrest.

Instead, they found a father and his daughter.

“We believed that we were serving a search warrant at that [suspected dealer’s] address.The investigation had led us to the wrong address. It led us to the address of a responsible hard-working citizen.”

(...)Amid their entrance, the chief said, the father armed himself and fired one shotgun blast, wounding two officers. An officer fired one shot in return, but “it did not take effect.”

Realizing they were police, Stawinski said, the father then dropped his weapon and told them not to shoot his daughter, whom he had told to go to the back of the apartment.

One officer has been treated and released, Stawinski said Thursday. The other required surgery on his arm.

The father, Stawinski said, was taken into custody and questioned, along with his daughter.

The father will not be charged with a crime.
   1517. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 09:57 PM (#5748517)
If true, this report suggests that Ford doesn't actually intend to testify, since her lawyers are seeking to impose unreasonable conditions on her testimony:


Wherein Clapper doesn't understand negotiation. Yesterday she had no intention of testifying because Grassley's 10 AM decline to agree to the Monday hearing was inviolable. Today magically we find out those dates are flexible after all. These other "demands" will get worked out as well. She's showing some backbone and spunk by not allowing herself to be pushed around by Grassley, much to Clapper's sorrow.

edit: I agree she needs to go first, but it wouldn't be unreasonable to allow her a rebuttal after Kavanaugh's testimony.
   1518. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM (#5748525)
It's looking like a tough race for 77-year old first-time congressional candidate Donna Shalala:
Democrats exulted when U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen announced last year she was retiring. Because the Republican congresswoman’s district leans Democratic, one prominent Washington election watcher immediately labeled the race “lean Democratic.” No longer.

On the heels of two internal polls Wednesday that showed Democratic nominee Donna Shalala either losing or nearly tied with GOP opponent Maria Elvira Salazar, the Washington non-partisan election handicapper, the Cook Political Report, moved the needle back to the middle to “toss-up.” David Wasserman, who tracks House races for Cook and last week suggested that some Democrats were worried that Shalala had not pulled away, called it a “stunning turn” for a race that should be a “slam dunk” for Democrats.
. . .
He cited a bad candidate match up, noting that Shalala, 77, would be the second-oldest House freshman in history and is seeking to represent an overwhelmingly Hispanic district, despite not speaking Spanish. Her Republican opponent, Maria Elvira Salazar, 56, is a well-known former Spanish language television reporter who has “been savvy in attracting free media.”
. . .
In the poll conducted for Salazar’s campaign by McLaughlin & Associates, Salazar leads Shalala by 51 percent to 42 percent, with 7 percent undecided. The poll also found Shalala’s negatives were twice those of the former television journalist, “yet her favorables are 14 points lower.” A memo accompanying the poll says that “while Salazar is ahead, she must not take anything for granted and will need significant resources to continuing running a very strong campaign.”

In her own poll conducted by Bendixen & Amandi International, Shalala, the former Clinton-era Health and Human Services Secretary tops Salazar, but only by narrow margin: 46 percent to 42 percent. No-party candidate Mayra Joli, the self-described master of selfies, polled at 8 percent, with 4 percent undecided.

Democrats once considered this District their easiest pick-up opportunity of the cycle. It'd be a bit ominous if they lost it.
   1519. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM (#5748529)
Jesus, from doppelgangers to Grassley whispering to Donna Shalala without even pausing for breath. Claps is one remarkable animal, like one of Basil Fawlty's Japanese moose heads.
   1520. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:21 PM (#5748532)
Democrats once considered this District their easiest pick-up opportunity of the cycle. It'd be a bit ominous if they lost it.


Not to worry. While 538 used to have it as a sold D pickup, it is now merely a likely D, but it is balanced by IA-1 going from likely to solid. Looking at their projection map, there are 14 likely or solid D pickups to 0 R pickups (and 7 to 1 in lean pickups. And 8 to 1 in tossup pickups. And 7-0 in tossups where the incumbent is ahead but with less than 60% chance to win)
   1521. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM (#5748535)
Has Clapper posted about the results in the TX State Senate? Huge pickup the GOP got there. First time in 139 years apparently. Takes them to a veto proof super majority.
   1522. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:26 PM (#5748537)
He looks awful, his voice is raspy, this is gonna be a great one. He just started and he already looks like he's about to keel over.

The crowd behind him is absolutely amazing. It looks like a random sampling of the slot players at an off the strip casino around 3AM.

   1523. Tom T Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:30 PM (#5748540)
Yes, Class of '77.


That's cool, Srul.

One of my faculty mentors (and someone whose opinions I value most deeply) graduated from Course 6 in '77. I recall he lived in Senior House. He left the local U a number of years ago for Cornell. Wonder if he attended that commencement....
   1524. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:30 PM (#5748541)
On the Senate side, 538 just put TN into the tossup category. There are 7 Senate races rated lean or tossup, 2 tossups each, 2 lean D ( AZ and MO), and 1 lean R (TX). ND, FL, NV, and TN are the tossups. If the tossups are split, and the leans go the way they currently are, it';s a 50-50 Senate.
   1525. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:34 PM (#5748545)
Bias about to go viral. Wow. He just said bias like 7 times in a row. He is completely off the rails tonight, this is great, political theatre ray!
   1526. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:35 PM (#5748549)
He looks awful, his voice is raspy, this is gonna be a great one. He just started and he already looks like he's about to keel over.


Just saw a guy stand up wearing a "Very Stable Genius" shirt. I would think that was mocking him, but I can't tell.
   1527. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:37 PM (#5748553)
Just saw a guy stand up wearing a "Very Stable Genius" shirt. I would think that was mocking him, but I can't tell.


It's ironic but I gotta say I should print some, sell 'em. Not a bad idea. His Kavs rant is pretty weak. He's unable to stay on topic. As I type he's stumbling badly.
   1528. Tom T Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:42 PM (#5748557)
Also, I had the ... joy? ... of having the sitting President speak at my PhD commencement. Meant that we had to line up crazy early, pass through a bunch of security, and then sit there and BAKE in Killian Court for something like 4 or 5 hours (maybe longer...repressed memories and all that) until the ceremony finally ended. One of my fellow program grads was entering (or maybe in) the third trimester (the erstwhile infant now swims for Stanford and was an Olympic Trials finalist in '16) and we had to go begging for the security guys to find her water periodically.

No recollection of what Bill said any longer, but I do recall us taking bets about which overly-fit guys on the platform were Secret Service and NOT members of the administration.

Could also be that it was more memorable that the HST grads got to shake the hand of David Ho (AIDS researcher) who was celebrating the 20th anniversary of obtaining his PhD from our sister program. (The same grad who was wrangling water managed to get the message up to the platform that we'd love to "meet" David, and David -- apparently bored as could be -- jumped at the chance.)

My BS and MS commencements were less exciting --- used to be a tradition at the local U that the President did all commencement speeches. The speech at my BS commencement was at least entertaining, however, as his youngest son was graduating with us and the poor guy ended up being fantastically embarrassed by the "Proud Papa" speech that resulted.
   1529. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:46 PM (#5748559)
Dean Heller is a dead ringer of a guy I did some body and advance work for. Wow. Jock turned Pol. Hand him the talking points (bullet points) and let him do some pointing and homecoming rally stuff. Doesn't seem like a bad guy at all, but not exactly a deep thinker. Really enjoyed hanging out with the guy I worked for, friendly fun guy that didn't micromanage, I'm sure Heller is the same way, his bio is fairly impressive.

It's too bad he's sucking up to Trump, in another timeline that guy is a conservative Dem.
   1530. Shredder Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:48 PM (#5748560)
Under normal circumstances, Obama would've been able to move on from Garland and nominate someone else - but the Senate (McConnell) made clear that no one that Obama nominated would even get a hearing. So they didn't "reject Garland's nomination fairly quickly", they held it hostage for 300 days.
Furthermore, if Clinton had won and the Democrats had flipped the Senate, McConnell would have had Garland confirmed the very next day (figuratively, of course), assuming Obama hadn't pulled the nomination, because he was a much better option than anything they could have hoped for. The idea that they had rejected him quickly or at any time prior to election night is simply ludicrous revisionist history. Par for the course among those here who would push that theory.
   1531. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:49 PM (#5748561)
He looks awful, his voice is raspy, this is gonna be a great one. He just started and he already looks like he's about to keel over.

And yet for drooling and babbling even Trump himself can't even compete with those comments on the sidebar. They need to recruit some more Russians so they can at least sound a bit more coherent.
   1532. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:50 PM (#5748562)
It's too bad he's sucking up to Trump, in another timeline that guy is a conservative Dem.


I feel the same way about my congress critter. Carlos Curbelo is a decent guy, and someone I could vote for, if we weren't in an age where the R house is Trump's de facto defense counsel.
   1533. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:52 PM (#5748563)
Trump hardcore supporters ( the kind that show up to these rallies) are such idiots. Trump is without a doubt the swampiest President since the gilded age, and yet his "We will drain the swamp" line continues to get huge applause.
   1534. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:52 PM (#5748564)
Chinese American Women in "Chinese Americans heart Trump" chanting "build that wall" has sapped my will to live, other than to try and laugh at the absurdity of it.

Oh boy, he's going off on the wall now, this is great. "lock her up" chants now. now they are booing the Justice Department! Law and Order!
   1535. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:54 PM (#5748567)
And yet for drooling and babbling even Trump himself can't even compete with those comments on the sidebar. They need to recruit some more Russians so they can at least sound a bit more coherent.


How can you possibly read them with the speed they are scrolling?
   1536. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:57 PM (#5748571)
And yet for drooling and babbling even Trump himself can't even compete with those comments on the sidebar. They need to recruit some more Russians so they can at least sound a bit more coherent.

How can you possibly read them with the speed they are scrolling?


Evelyn Wood. JFK taught me. Everyone who grew up in DC in the early 60's can speed read.

Or something like that.

But that's enough of Trump for the night. I can read about it tomorrow.
   1537. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 10:58 PM (#5748572)
Following up on #1511, the NYT and other outlets are also reporting that Ford's lawyers are demanding Kavanaugh testify first and seek to prohibit her from being questioned by staff counsel. Witnesses simply don't get to dictate to Senate Committees like that. If Ford doesn't back down on her demands, she's not going to testify, and will lose the PR battle on who is being unreasonable.
   1538. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:00 PM (#5748575)
If Ford doesn't back down on her demands, she's not going to testify, and will lose the PR battle on who is being unreasonable.


You said that yesterday, and yet it appears Grassley is the one who backed down from his 10 AM Friday deadline.
   1539. Chip Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:05 PM (#5748577)
You said that yesterday, and yet it appears Grassley is the one who backed down from his 10 AM Friday deadline.


He’s reduced to flailing desperately here because he can’t front-run post anymore in Game Chatter tonight.
   1540. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:10 PM (#5748583)
Chinese American Women in "Chinese Americans heart Trump" chanting "build that wall" has sapped my will to live, other than to try and laugh at the absurdity of it.

I mean, to be fair, if anybody should have an affinity for really, really big walls, it would be the Chinese.
   1541. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:12 PM (#5748585)
I can't believe he's just reading this piece of paper.
   1542. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:14 PM (#5748589)
You said that yesterday, and yet it appears Grassley is the one who backed down from his 10 AM Friday deadline.

Is Friday morning yet? Kavanaugh isn't going testify first, and even if the GOP plans on the Senators doing the questioning (there are reports they are considering other options), I doubt they will agree to let a witness limit the Committee's discretion. They could easily agree that neither Kavanaugh or Ford will be present when the other testifies - that's the normal protocol and there never was any plan to have them testify together.
   1543. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:15 PM (#5748591)
it cracks me up that like any good native NYCer Trump says "waiting ONLINE" when everybody else says "waiting in line". I bet he gets a straw with his sodas too.
   1544. Count Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:16 PM (#5748592)
The Whelan thing could really hurt Kavanaugh if he was involved. A staffer for Hatch previewed Whelan's tweets, and Whelan is a big deal in conservative legal circles, so this could really backfire more than it has already.
   1545. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:16 PM (#5748593)
Trump just gave D women the perfect sound bite

Trump questions why Kavanaugh accuser didn't call the FBI after alleged assault

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump questioned Thursday why the woman who has accused his Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault didn't call the police 36 years ago, when she says the incident happened.

"Why didn't somebody call the FBI 36 years ago? I mean you could also say when did this all happen, what's going on? To take a man like this and besmirch -- now with that being said, let her have her say and let's see how it all works out," Trump said during an interview on Fox News just before his rally in Las Vegas.


Setting aside the fact that the FBI doesn't investigate rape allegations, his comments display a profound lack of understanding of how traumatized women deal with sexual assault. Just when you thought his approval rate among women (currently at ~35%) couldn't get any lower, this may drop it a point or 2. Earlier today there were reports leaked from WH staff about how surprised they were with how well Trump was handling the whole thing, how respectfully he was treating Ford. Looks like couldn't hold it in any longer.
   1546. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:22 PM (#5748598)
Go easy on Clapper. Today is Thursday, September 20, which was supposed to be the best day of his life. How would YOU like it if Christmas suddenly got cancelled, and Santa was forced to look for a female lady vaginal girl attorney to ask all of his naughty/nice questions?
   1547. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:27 PM (#5748603)
Has Clapper posted about the results in the TX State Senate?

It's disappointing that folks don't do a better job keeping up with the thread:
913. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2018 at 12:01 AM (#5747139)
There was an actual election today, in Texas even. I'm sure BDC would have reported on it if it involved an expenditure of public funds for his climate controlled comfort, but it's just a State Senate special election:

Voters elected political newcomer Pete Flores to the Texas Senate on Tuesday, flipping a Democratic district red for the first time in 139 years and bolstering Republicans’ supermajority in the chamber ahead of the November elections. A retired game warden, Flores defeated former state and U.S. Rep. Pete Gallego for the Senate District 19 seat after receiving backing from some of the state’s most prominent politicians, including Gov. Greg Abbott, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, and U.S. Sens John Cornyn and Ted Cruz.
. . .
According the Secretary of State’s website, Flores won with 53 percent of the vote to Gallego’s 47 percent with 44,487 ballots cast.


Not seeing the Democratic Texas breakthrough some keep predicting, always for "the next election".

Working link in original post.
   1548. Howie Menckel Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:34 PM (#5748604)
it cracks me up that like any good native NYCer Trump says "waiting ONLINE" when everybody else says "waiting in line".

is this a "majority rule" thing? because that might not benefit America's Heartland.
   1549. Ray (CTL) Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:35 PM (#5748605)
NY Post reporting that Kavanaugh is also getting death threats.

When was the last time any Supreme Court nominee was murdered? Pshaw!

Besides, the 11th-and-a-halfth-hour timing of these threats is incredibly suspicious. These "threats" have all the earmarks of being being sent by crisis actors paid by the Republican Party.


Most of the death threats on both sides are probably false flag.
   1550. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: September 20, 2018 at 11:49 PM (#5748608)
Lindsey Graham

Verified account

@LindseyGrahamSC
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The President is dead right about Judge Kavanaugh being highly qualified, the right person for the job, and also right about letting process play out.

Kavanaugh nomination is still on track. Stay tuned!

299 replies 198 retweets 537 likes
Reply 299 Retweet 198 Like 537


Honestly I think Graham should have let YC write his tweet. Clapper's adjectives are better. A distinct lack of "impeccable" and "beyond reproach" in that tweet. I'm being dead serious, politically I don't think this "new" (who knows, it's probably just reacting to Trump saying ####) tact of Graham's is a particularly smart one. It's also distinctly un GOP like to just not ram the vote through. You gotta think their pollsters are telling them something.

Probably something about suburban and exurban college educated women and the upcoming election. It's political poison NOT to let her tell the story. It MIGHT be political poison for Kavs. And if it is, well, there's another guy behind him. So let her testify or whatever, in whatever format, and try and get the votes. If not move on.

Who ####### knows tho. The guy driving isn't prone to following the rules of the road.

is this a "majority rule" thing? because that might not benefit America's Heartland.


Moving to Brooklyn was a lot of ####### fun. Being white, young, and from the midwest (but infatuated with big cities) I tried to adjust as best I could immediately. Hoodies, soda not pop, lemme getting for regular slices and sliding that metrocard first time right every time and speed running the purchase of a new one at the machine with all the expectant eyes.

Now I miss NYC, haven't been back in a few years. Gotta see that last part of the highline, and the finished Battery Park area stuff. Pretty cool they opened up that subway station again. City seems as well as ever, but De Blasio seems like a huge disappointment. Honestly probably would prefer the Bloomberg policies.

How much is an unlimited month metro card now?
   1551. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:07 AM (#5748612)
good post by 1959 Masters golf champ Art Wall.

NYC absolutely is thriving, and not just Manhattan. and yes, de Blasio is ineffectual.

it's almost impossible to drive in midtown Manhattan anymore, but I have made my peace with that. it was going to happen eventually, and charging exorbitant prices for bogus violations actually helps seal the deal.

so I go in by train now. not as often, so NYC loses on net revenues, but it's stress-free and that is the choice they made.

the High Line probably is the biggest new NYC attraction in years.
   1552. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:10 AM (#5748614)
It's political poison NOT to let her tell the story.

There might have been some political fallout if, after Ford came forward, the committee had voted today without giving her an opportunity to testify. But the GOP didn't do that, they postponed the vote, and gave Ford three different options on how she presents her testimony: open hearing, closed hearing, or committee investigator interview. There will be no political fallout (beyond those already firmly opposed to the nomination) if the GOP now disregards Ford's demand that the accused must testify first and she gets to pick her questioners. If she doesn't show, Kavanaugh is confirmed and the GOP looks better than the Dems. Same if she testifies but Kavanaugh comes across as equally credible or more so. There is only a political problem if Ford comes across better than Kavanaugh. We've seen Kavanaugh already, he'll do fine.
   1553. zenbitz Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:13 AM (#5748615)
It led us to the address of a responsible hard-working citizen.


And they know this because he shot them? I am going to do them a favor and not suppose this is some kind of code, that it's just being inane.
   1554. zenbitz Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:20 AM (#5748617)
and will lose the PR battle on who is being unreasonable.


There's no PR battle. There are no stable moderates waiting to see how this turns out. There's people who want him in at all costs, and people who don't like him and can't do dink about it. Oh, and Ray.
   1555. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:24 AM (#5748619)
I love Yankee Clapper continuing to make these forceful, confident assessments and predictions as if he has a reputation for being right.

He's that guy in Las Vegas who lost all of his betting money, then made an ATM withdrawal to win it back but lost that too, and then made another withdrawal, but now he's right back at the table with the last of his savings because forget about those other bets (what other bets?). He doesn't think, he doesn't hope, he KNOWS the next prediction is going to be the winner.

And the American people agree with him.
   1556. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:32 AM (#5748620)
There's no PR battle. There are no stable moderates waiting to see how this turns out. There's people who want him in at all costs, and people who don't like him and can't do dink about it. Oh, and Ray.

to be fair, #metoo
I am waiting to see how this turns out.
   1557. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:35 AM (#5748621)
There's no PR battle. There are no stable moderates waiting to see how this turns out. There's people who want him in at all costs, and people who don't like him and can't do dink about it. Oh, and Ray.

Ray may be sui generis, but not in that way. There are lots of people who can grasp that Ford should be heard, but that she can't dictate that the Senate change its procedures to create her personal Kafkaesque Court. Those who claimed the GOP would pay a political penalty if it overplayed its hand aren't well-positioned to claim the Dems would get away scott free for doing the same.
   1558. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:38 AM (#5748622)
How much is an unlimited month metro card now?

$121, plus a dollar for a new card (as opposed to adding another 30 days to your existing card). It went up a few bucks about a year ago. I assume it'll go up again in the not too distant future.

And it's actually 30 days, not a month, which means it often expires a day or two before you think it will, or at least before I think it will.


(alright, back to lurking)
   1559. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 21, 2018 at 12:39 AM (#5748623)
I love Yankee Clapper continuing to make these forceful, confident assessments and predictions as if he has a reputation for being right.

I'll take my analysis over your COUNT THE CHROMOSOMES advocacy, thank you very much. If you did a better job on substance, you wouldn't have to constantly discuss other posters.
   1560. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 21, 2018 at 01:11 AM (#5748626)
It would be too cruel to go back over the last 5-6 days and compile the poster discussing you've done-- presumably while hating yourself for it-- along with the stellar quality of your substance and analysis.

Anyway, it'll all be over this morning. You'll have your analytical victory at 10:01 AM, when the doomsday deadline you were spouting about lapses without full capitulation by Dr. Ford.
   1561. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 21, 2018 at 01:28 AM (#5748628)
The Onion:

GOP Officials Urge Calmer, More Reasonable Death Threats Toward Kavanaugh Accuser


Kavanaugh Sweating Bullets After Betting Life Savings On Being Confirmed To Supreme Court


GOP Releases New Letter Supporting Kavanaugh Signed By Orrin Hatch 500 Times


GOP Officials: Kavanaugh Shouldn’t Be Held Accountable For Something He Did As White Teenager
   1562. zenbitz Posted: September 21, 2018 at 01:36 AM (#5748629)
OK here is a test Howie - if Ford testifies and you think that Kavenaugh's guilty AND they ram him through anyway... how does it change your vote in November? Or 2020.


Those who claimed the GOP would pay a political penalty if it overplayed its hand


Oh they are quite wrong as well. I venture to guess that the female GOP vote has pretty close to bottomed out. The only folks who really matter here are the bluest 3* republican senators. And they've probably already made up their minds.

* I have to be honest, I am not sure what is going on with McCain's seat. I guess it's empty so the Senate is like 50-49? Or Flake is in now, according to ballotpedia, so still 51-49, with Pence as the tie breaker.

EDIT Not Flake the other guy.
   1563. tshipman Posted: September 21, 2018 at 01:47 AM (#5748630)
I mean, Kavanaugh is a historically unpopular nominee for the Supreme Court. Public polling doesn't technically matter here, but Senators are sensitive to this.

Zooming out, I think something gets worked out and both testify on Monday. I think the testimony hurts Kavanaugh almost no matter what. Some people aren't aware of the accusation, or even his nomination, and this denial/accusation will be their introduction to the nominee on the nightly news.
   1564. OCF Posted: September 21, 2018 at 01:49 AM (#5748631)
I have to be honest, I am not sure what is going on with McCain's seat.

That seat is now occupied by Jon Kyl, so the Senate is 51-49. There will be a special election for it in 2020.
   1565. McCoy Posted: September 21, 2018 at 06:17 AM (#5748635)
If people are watching the nightly news they know about Kavanaugh.
   1566. . Posted: September 21, 2018 at 07:27 AM (#5748637)
Why one would wish harm on another on matters as trivial as political disagreements is beyond me


Because of the internet and social media, which have hastened and accelerated The Decline.(*) That's why.

(*) As well as the cold civil war.
   1567. Lassus Posted: September 21, 2018 at 07:43 AM (#5748638)
it's almost impossible to drive in midtown Manhattan anymore

Can mostly confirm. Was there last weekend just for an overnight, didn't feel like the bother was worth it to stop and go and stop and go with trains and luggage, and instead drove straight in to a hotel in Gramercy. Traffic worse than I thought it would be, I admit. Maybe others can correct me, but I feel like parking garage prices have gone DOWN, or at least not gone up as fast and hard as the trains and subway, cost-wise.
   1568. BDC Posted: September 21, 2018 at 07:48 AM (#5748639)
I think the testimony hurts Kavanaugh almost no matter what


I agree, unless Ford seems quite delusional.

I also would bet (though not my life savings) that Kavanaugh will be confirmed 51-49 anyway. The various Republicans who have expressed some reservations will get credit for being mavericks, but will get their stone-conservative Justice for the next 25-30 years too.
   1569. Howie Menckel Posted: September 21, 2018 at 07:54 AM (#5748640)
this one makes me giggle
Democrat Scott Wallace wants President Trump to release his tax returns. But he isn't so eager to hand over his own.

Wallace, a multimillionaire philanthropist running to unseat Republican U.S. Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick in the Philadelphia suburbs, has campaigned on a promise to introduce legislation to require all presidential candidates to disclose their tax returns.

He also tweeted that Fitzpatrick was a "prime example" of Republicans' insufficiently condemning Trump's buddy-buddy attitude toward Russian President Vladimir Putin, and that "requiring Trump to release his tax returns could be a good start."

So why hasn't he coughed up his own tax returns?

Asked that question at an Inquirer Editorial Board meeting, Wallace said that "when we have disclosure at the top, then maybe we can talk about the vice president and maybe about senators," adding that "the disclosure of tax returns is not a commonplace thing" and "I don't know that any other congressional candidates have done it."

The only problem with that: Some candidates for Congress and other offices have released their tax returns. In fact, Gov. Wolf has handed over his, and the state Democratic Party has chided his Republican opponent, Scott Wagner, for not doing the same.

Wallace's disclosure statement shows that his wealth is between $127 million and $309 million.

Fitzpatrick, for his part, wasn't any more transparent. Back in July, he said Trump and Wallace should both release their tax returns. He asked if Wallace was a "tax hypocrite" for asking for Trump's files but not releasing his own.

The Fitzpatrick campaign didn't provide his tax return when we asked for it this week.
   1570. McCoy Posted: September 21, 2018 at 08:11 AM (#5748646)
Was there last weekend just for an overnight, didn't feel like the bother was worth it to stop and go and stop and go with trains and luggage, and instead drove straight in to a hotel in Gramercy. Traffic worse than I thought it would be, I admit

Maybe the traffic was bad because you rammed your car into a hotel in Manhattan. You ever stop and think about that?
   1571. McCoy Posted: September 21, 2018 at 08:13 AM (#5748647)
I was in Manhattan in the beginning of August. Used Uber and taxis to get around travel seemed rather bearable. Granted it was the weekend but I've been in Manhattan during the work week and the roads didn't feel at all like bumper to bumper stop and go traffic that you see on the LA highway system or rush hours on ATL's highway system.
   1572. perros Posted: September 21, 2018 at 08:14 AM (#5748648)

Whelan did not respond to requests for comment. He had told people around him that he had spent several days putting together the theory and thought it was more convincing than her story, according to two friends who had talked to him.

Whelan has been involved in helping to advise Kavanaugh’s confirmation effort and is close friends with both Kavanaugh and Leonard Leo, the head of the Federalist Society who has been helping to spearhead the nomination. Kavanaugh and Whelan also worked together in the Bush administration.


No comment.
   1573. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 21, 2018 at 08:17 AM (#5748649)
to be fair, #metoo
I am waiting to see how this turns out.


-- SPOILER ALERT --

We end up with the Republicans putting a conservative on the Supreme Court. Likely Kavanaugh but definitely someone, and before the end of the year.

Oh yeah, and Clapper gloats about it like he did something special and the Democrats failed somehow (when the GOP always had the power to put whoever they wanted on the court).
   1574. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 21, 2018 at 08:18 AM (#5748650)
There are lots of people who can grasp that Ford should be heard, but that she can't dictate that the Senate change its procedures to create her personal Kafkaesque Court.

There are also lots of people who realize that all "the Senate" means here is a geriatric right wing Republican who's programmed by the White House and the Federalist Society.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think the testimony hurts Kavanaugh almost no matter what

I agree, unless Ford seems quite delusional.

I also would bet (though not my life savings) that Kavanaugh will be confirmed 51-49 anyway.


He doesn't have a vote, but it's interesting that the independent governor of the solidly red state of Alaska has come out against Kavanaugh's nomination. It's at least as interesting as Clapper's fevered speculation about Kavanaugh's doppelganger.

And in case Clapper thinks Kavanaugh is winning the battle for public opinion, think again:

Poll: Brett Kavanaugh faces unprecedented opposition to Supreme Court confirmation
WASHINGTON — More Americans oppose than support the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, a new USA TODAY/Ipsos Public Affairs Poll finds, an unprecedented level of disapproval for a nominee to the nation's high court.

Amid allegations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh, those surveyed say by 40 percent-31 percent that the Senate shouldn't vote to approve his nomination, the first time a plurality of Americans have opposed a Supreme Court nominee since polling on the issue began. Nonetheless, they also are inclined to believe he will, in the end, be confirmed: Just 11 percent predict he won't; 45 percent say he will.

The findings underscore the serious political stakes — and the potential for blow-back in the midterm elections now little more than six weeks away. ...


   1575. Avoid Running At All Times- S. Paige Posted: September 21, 2018 at 08:40 AM (#5748654)
Doesn’t get more loony than the doppelgänger theory and whelan’s twitter feed on that.
   1576. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:06 AM (#5748663)
Doesn’t get more loony than the doppelgänger theory and whelan’s twitter feed on that.

To show just how desperate Whelan's silly move was, this was Ford's response:
“I knew them both, and socialized with” the other classmate, Ford said, adding that she had once visited him in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”

Whelan can now claim that the hospital visit was really with Mark Judge, and let Claps run with that.
   1577. , Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:10 AM (#5748664)
Why one would wish harm on another on matters as trivial as political disagreements is beyond me

Violence is, always has been, and always will be, the ultimate arbiter of political disagreements. You can't have extreme polarization and no violence.
   1578. Hot Wheeling American, MS-13 Enthusiast Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:17 AM (#5748667)
@lispower1:
F&F is v impressed by Ed Whelan's doppelganger theory

Doocy: A fellow by the name of Ed Whelan .. figured out what house it may have happened at ... and looked at a picture of the young man, they look a lot alike

Earhardt: Really?

Henry: So, is it a case of mistaken identity?

When will extreme partisans like The Yankee Clapper disavow this abhorrent tactic? Does The Yankee Clapper, a career bureaucrat (deep state?), know whether there's any truth to the rumor that Judge Kavanaugh was part of the scheme to concoct this outrageous story?
   1579. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:18 AM (#5748668)
Doesn’t get more loony than the doppelgänger theory and whelan’s twitter feed on that.


From what I could tell it really only had traction with the extremist crackpots and mushy-headed hysterics who form the right-wing Pizzagate fringe. I feel bad about this other guy though, who has the Trumpholster loonies screaming, “This guy is the real sexual predator! HIM! That guy over there!”
   1580. Spahn Insane Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:21 AM (#5748669)
Democrats once considered this District their easiest pick-up opportunity of the cycle. It'd be a bit ominous if they lost it.

"It'd be a bit ominous [for Dem House takeover prospects] if they lost it," sez Clap, immediately after a lengthy excerpt that explains the unique quirks of this particular race--Shalala's old, she doesn't speak Spanish and is running in a heavily hispanic district, she's running against an opponent who does, and she has high personal negatives, perhaps exacerbated by her long association with the Clintons. (Yes, it's certainly arguable that Shalala should be doing better simply by virtue of being a Dem running in what looks like a wave cycle, but that just takes us back to...the reasons WHY she's not doing well in spite of that.)

But, sure, feel free to extrapolate those highly individualized and localized factors to House races nationwide, and to enjoy what passes as great news for the GOP House prospects these days.
   1581. Zonk is One Individual Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:22 AM (#5748670)
Long - very long - piece on Kent Sorenson that I found to be a very interesting read...

You may remember Sorenson - one-time Iowa Tea Party scion and would-be kingmaker; had his fall from grace not occurred, there's a good chance he'd be holding Joni Ernst's Senate seat.

In any case, his fall ended with prison time and afterwards, the tragic suicide of his son. It's rare that a retrospective like this causes so many paradoxical feelings... I vaguely remembered him when I saw the piece - lots of memories of TP yahoos screaming, loony Bachmann (and Paul)... initially thinking/reading "Good, I hope prison sucked"... then, almost feeling bad about that initial thought as Sorenson really sounds like his eyes got opened... finally, actually feeling bad for him at the end.

The cruel irony here?

Even though I imagine the guy might - he's done with politics and considers it a destructive waste - well still run as a Republican, he'd probably make a good public servant now.

“Politics was a waste of my life,” he says, shaking his head. The greater irony, he adds, is that same-sex marriage is now the law of the land—and it doesn’t bother him one bit. “If we’re secure in our faith as Christians, why should we care? It’s not like my kids are going to start wearing rainbow flags,” he says. “You can’t legislate morality. I spent so much time opposing same-sex marriage, and now, looking back, it’s like, why?” It’s not the only issue he feels differently about. Once the Iowa legislature’s champion for capital punishment, Sorenson is now adamantly opposed to the death penalty. “After going through what I went through, I’m fearful of putting anyone’s life in the hands of a judge,” he tells me. “I just don’t believe in the justice system like I used to.” (When I visited with Judge Pratt in his chambers, he explained that weighing the impact on family is the toughest part of sentencing. When I told Pratt of Kent Jr.’s suicide, the judge’s face went white. “Oh,” he whispered, visibly shaken. “That’s just what I needed to hear. Thanks a lot.”)

* * *

Sorenson wants to get involved in the push for prison reform, and knows he’ll have to get used to the circus-freak stares. “I’m really not sure how I’d be perceived by people, especially people in politics,” he says. “But I made a promise to the guys in prison. They told me, ‘So many guys say they’re going to do something to help us once they get out, and they never do.’ If I can take the bad I’ve experienced, and turn it into good, that’s all I want.”

But first, Kent Sorenson has a more pressing task: salvaging a shred of hope from the wreckage of his life. His remaining five children are crushed; his two grandchildren are without a father; his wife is grasping for some semblance of normalcy. Before he can help anyone else, he has to help them. “This was supposed to be a year of restoration for my family. I don’t know if we’ll ever get the restoration that we hoped for,” he says. “Right now, I’m just trying to put my life back together.”
   1582. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:29 AM (#5748673)
Quoting myself from last night.

Earlier today there were reports leaked from WH staff about how surprised they were with how well Trump was handling the whole thing, how respectfully he was treating Ford. Looks like couldn't hold it in any longer.


Well, Trump doing what he does best, doubling down on the stupid:

I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!


That's gotta help, right?
   1583. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:30 AM (#5748674)
1447

have no clue who my undergrad commencement speaker was and don't remember a word of it; earlier that morning while packing I pulled a dresser drawer out and it sashed my big toe (I later lost the nail and the bed was damaged enough it later needed minor surgery).


I remember the day, don't remember the speaker. And I was a little drunk.
   1584. Zonk is One Individual Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:30 AM (#5748675)
Whelan recants...


Ed Whelan @EdWhelanEPPC

I made an appalling and inexcusable mistake of judgment in posting the tweet thread in a way that identified Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep classmate. I take full responsibility for that mistake, and I deeply apologize for it. I realize that does not undo the mistake.
7:38 AM - Sep 21, 2018


It's really full Apocalypto for Republicans... the end is near, they know it, so all the crazy comes out.
   1585. Greg K Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:32 AM (#5748677)
EU rejects May's Chequers plan.

I think this is the first time we're hearing about a real impasse in the Brexit negotiations. It's been pretty obvious for a while that the two sides were pretty far apart, but it's a bad sign when the principals are saying it.
   1586. Zonk is One Individual Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:34 AM (#5748678)
My commencement speaker was supposed to be - not kidding - Madelaine Albright... but she had to cancel last minute.

I do not recall who actually spoke nor a single thing about it, beyond seeing the actual diploma and feeling a bit overwhelmed. I had a rather checkered college career - including some mid- and late- term doubts I'd ever get one.
   1587. DavidFoss Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:37 AM (#5748681)
Whelan recants...

Many are pointing out that he's not apologizing for theorizing that Ford is mistaken. He's apologizing for pointing the finger at someone else -- who I imagine is still around.
   1588. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:37 AM (#5748682)
1454

A "thorough and fair investigation" that will result in "confirm[ing] Judge Kavanaugh", I am sure.


"...and I instruct the jury to take sufficient time weigh all the evidence seriously, soberly and completely before returning with you verdict of 'not guilty.'" -- Peter Cook parodying the judge in the Jeremy Thorpe buggery/attempted murder case, 1979.
   1589. JL72 Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:38 AM (#5748683)
I'll take my analysis over your COUNT THE CHROMOSOMES advocacy, thank you very much.


I don't think that word means what you think it means.
   1590. Hot Wheeling American, MS-13 Enthusiast Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:38 AM (#5748684)
I made an appalling and inexcusable mistake of judgment in posting the tweet thread in a way that identified Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep classmate.


lmao. Was there another way he could have spread his lunacy without identifying Brett's double?
   1591. Zonk is One Individual Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:41 AM (#5748688)
I'll take my analysis over your COUNT THE CHROMOSOMES advocacy, thank you very much.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.


Clapper is the OTP's finest Dr. Fünke -- the first analyst-therapist.... or analrapist.
   1592. BrianBrianson Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:42 AM (#5748689)
It's been an open non-secret that the EU would reject the plan. The EU has been extremely open about their position, and it's really the only position they can take. Nobody but nutters thought there was any chance they'd take it. The "Fog in Channel, Continent cut off" types might've thought the EU would blink, but they're nuts.
   1593. Greg K Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:44 AM (#5748690)
It's been an open non-secret that the EU would reject the plan. The EU has been extremely open about their position, and it's really the only position they can take. Nobody but nutters thought there was any chance they'd take it. The "Fog in Channel, Continent cut off" types might've thought the EU would blink, but they're nuts.

Maybe this will bring some of them around to reality while there's still plenty of time to come up with something!
   1594. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:44 AM (#5748691)
1466

If she was too drunk to consent,

he was too drunk to know that.


And in those situations, they should just take it as one of life's lessons and simply move on.


JFC, Morty...!
   1595. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:46 AM (#5748692)
Whelan recants...


but will Clapper apologize for spreading that garbage here and giving it his stamp of approval? His post last night:

1495. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 07:53 PM (#5748429)

Some interesting speculation in this Twitter thread about a Kavanaugh doppelgänger classmate who lived in a house similar to the one described by Ford. Of course, if Ford had gone through the normal witness process, we'd already know (or the Committee would) if she knew Kavanaugh's name before the alleged incident, or she only attached Kavanaugh to the incident after the fact.
   1596. Ishmael Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:50 AM (#5748693)
It's been an open non-secret that the EU would reject the plan. The EU has been extremely open about their position, and it's really the only position they can take. Nobody but nutters thought there was any chance they'd take it. The "Fog in Channel, Continent cut off" types might've thought the EU would blink, but they're nuts.

And, there are enough of those types in the Conservative party (and in the media etc.) to make it politically dicey for the government to make many "concessions" to the EU. Chequers was unacceptable to everyone, really.
   1597. Zonk is One Individual Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:51 AM (#5748696)

but will Clapper apologize for spreading that garbage here and giving it his stamp of approval? His post last night:

1495. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2018 at 07:53 PM (#5748429)

Some interesting speculation in this Twitter thread about a Kavanaugh doppelgänger classmate who lived in a house similar to the one described by Ford. Of course, if Ford had gone through the normal witness process, we'd already know (or the Committee would) if she knew Kavanaugh's name before the alleged incident, or she only attached Kavanaugh to the incident after the fact.


I will bet Clapper $1 - and give him 100 to 1 odds - that he will not.
   1598. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:51 AM (#5748697)
1492

Remarkably, it is not the man who is considered possessed in intercourse, even though he (his penis) is buried inside another human being; and his penis is surrounded by strong muscles that contract like a fist shutting tight and release with a force that pushes hard on the tender thing, always so vulnerable no matter how hard. He is not possessed even though his penis is gone—disappeared inside someone else, enveloped, smothered, in the muscled lining of flesh that he never sees, only feels, gripping, releasing, gripping, tighter, harder, firmer, then pushing out: and can he get out alive?


Whew...

Anybody got a cigarette...?
   1599. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:52 AM (#5748698)
1495

Some interesting speculation in this Twitter thread about a Kavanaugh doppelgänger classmate who lived in a house similar to the one described by Ford. Of course, if Ford had gone through the normal witness process, we'd already know (or the Committee would) if she knew Kavanaugh's name before the alleged incident, or she only attached Kavanaugh to the incident after the fact.


Oh, please!
   1600. DavidFoss Posted: September 21, 2018 at 09:52 AM (#5748699)
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