Certainly does not seem like a bad guy.

Second terms are harder because it's harder to keep your own party in line.

Romney's concession speech sounds like a continuation of his campaign. Nixon made a far better one in 1960.

I realize the gauntlet that is the Republican primaries, but Ryan is going to be in position to be a House leader meeting the President. If he can dance that step well, he'll gain a lot of points with the general public.

What more did you want?

Eisenhower also had a second term stroke.

Very short and seemingly earnest... Romney could have been a great president in 1960. Certainly does not seem like a bad guy.

So weed now legal in Colorado according to state law, per the voters.

But no sirree, the country is not moving left!

It really was classic watching the FOX News "analysts" tilt against the decisions being made by the decision team - a team which seems far more objective and capable.

"We. Are. Not. Losing! No way. NO way!"

4388. You rejected it with a series of non-sequitors. Populist movements that exploit 1. the ignorant and 2. the selfish rarely sustain their gains over time.

Clinton also had a few of his own, from what I understand.

Allen West lost, per NBC.

If the GOP are willing to throw out something like Jindal + Rubio , that would change the game big time, but who knows at this point, the truth is the GOP can easily make enough of an adjustment and win in 2016, but the current trend is definately going the wrong way, which is of course however, not truely predictive of the future.

Oh, and to be fair, I don't see a dime's worth of difference between RCP and Nate.

Is there anything more tiresome than political pundits?

Now that he's won a second term, I hope Obama title his Presidential memoir "Born In Kenya."

Well, they're brown, but Jindal never recovered from his goofy speech a few years ago.

So weed now legal in Colorado according to state law, per the voters.

But no sirree, the country is not moving left!

hey now, within 3 years the president of 1960 stared nuclear war in the face.

and civil rights. and the beginnings of the vietnam war

that time had its challenges

Every big race has been called in New Hampshire and it's a clean sweep for Democrats.

After all is said and done, how many states will Romney win that McCain didn't, other than North Carolina and Indiana? I'm having a hard time thinking of any others.

CNN Exit Polls, 2008 (D-R-I): 39-32-29
CNN Exit Polls, 2012 (D-R-I) 38-32-29

So, to answer Joe, pretty much, yeah, same partisan split.

Bachman is up by about 1,000 with 72% in

So, to answer Joe, pretty much, yeah, same partisan split.

Sheriff Joe got re-elected too. So, it's not all roses.

But to the election. Who knows what to make of the weighting of the polls and the assumptions as to who will vote? Who knows the depth and breadth of each party’s turnout efforts? Among the wisest words spoken this cycle were by John Dickerson of CBS News and Slate, who said, in a conversation the night before the last presidential debate, that he thought maybe the American people were quietly cooking something up, something we don’t know about.

I think they are and I think it’s this: a Romney win.

Romney’s crowds are building—28,000 in Morrisville, Pa., last night; 30,000 in West Chester, Ohio, Friday It isn’t only a triumph of advance planning: People came, they got through security and waited for hours in the cold. His rallies look like rallies now, not enactments. In some new way he’s caught his stride. He looks happy and grateful. His closing speech has been positive, future-looking, sweetly patriotic. His closing ads are sharp—the one about what’s going on at the rallies is moving.

All the vibrations are right. A person who is helping him who is not a longtime Romneyite told me, yesterday: “I joined because I was anti Obama—I’m a patriot, I’ll join up But now I am pro-Romney.” Why? “I’ve spent time with him and I care about him and admire him. He’s a genuinely good man.” Looking at the crowds on TV, hearing them chant “Three more days” and “Two more days”—it feels like a lot of Republicans have gone from anti-Obama to pro-Romney.

Something old is roaring back. One of the Romney campaign’s surrogates, who appeared at a rally with him the other night, spoke of the intensity and joy of the crowd “I worked the rope line, people wouldn’t let go of my hand.” It startled him. A former political figure who’s been in Ohio told me this morning something is moving with evangelicals, other church-going Protestants and religious Catholics. He said what’s happening with them is quiet, unreported and spreading: They really want Romney now, they’ll go out and vote, the election has taken on a new importance to them.

There is no denying the Republicans have the passion now, the enthusiasm. The Democrats do not. Independents are breaking for Romney. And there’s the thing about the yard signs. In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

Is it possible this whole thing is playing out before our eyes and we’re not really noticing because we’re too busy looking at data on paper instead of what’s in front of us? Maybe that’s the real distortion of the polls this year: They left us discounting the world around us.

4527. Yes.
The pro-SSM bloc is made up for four groups.
1. children of broken families who were denied knowledge of what a family should be (aka the ignorant by no fault of their own)
2. promiscuous heterosexuals seeking to harm their consciences by attacking every reminder of the ideal they've denied. (aka the ignorant by weakened will)
3. secularists and transhumanists who want reductionist definitions of humanity and human institutions that are necessary for their plans for humanity's redesign (aka the selfish)
4. power hungry bureaucrats who want new statutes to enforce against their opponents and competing voices for social instruction (families, churches). (aka the selfish)

Eventually 1 and 2 will find healing and become wise. And 3 and 4 can't maintain power without showing their totalitarian hand and being rebuked by the public. It's not sustainable.

Is it possible this whole thing is playing out before our eyes and we’re not really noticing because we’re too busy looking at data on paper instead of what’s in front of us?

The pro-SSM bloc is made up for four groups.
1. children of broken families who were denied knowledge of what a family should be (aka the ignorant by no fault of their own)
2. promiscuous heterosexuals seeking to harm their consciences by attacking every reminder of the ideal they've denied. (aka the ignorant by weakened will)
3. secularists and transhumanists who want reductionist definitions of humanity and human institutions that are necessary for their plans for humanity's redesign (aka the selfish)
4. power hungry bureaucrats who want new statutes to enforce against their opponents and competing voices for social instruction (families, churches). (aka the selfish)

Eventually 1 and 2 will find healing and become wise. And 3 and 4 can't maintain power without showing their totalitarian hand and being rebuked by the public. It's not sustainable.

I assume these numbers are preliminary and are still subject to change, but to go back to a question Joe kept asking: Does anybody expect the partisan split of the electorate to be the same as in 2008?

Own up, people, who's got their hand up this sock puppet's ass???

Yeah but did they bury the split?

Romney is winning AZ by nearly 14 points. I'm rather surprised at the margin - figured it for 8-9 points.

Re: Obama's ground game - how well will that move to his successor?

Joe is still confident.

Was it appropriate to develop a polling sample according to 2008 voter turnout, and not the historical trends?

The book on Kennedy's civil rights leadership could be titled "Profiles in Porridge."

As one who was there, that's not a bad description, although he began to make up for it in the last five months of his life.

You guys are all jumping the gun. The electorate was way more Democratic than it should have been. That has to be unskewed before we can declare a winner.

Nats-Homer-In-DC, and we haven't seen Esoteric or Joey B in the thread so far.

Still waiting for Obama. Apparently he didn't have his victory speech written.

That topic wasn't about exit poll data, which few as a reliable indicator.
It was about voter turnout. Was it appropriate to develop a polling sample according to 2008 voter turnout, and not the historical trends?

Bachmann's opponent (Jim Graves) has about 75,000-80,000 uncounted ballots to make up about 1,100 votes.