In William Manchester's great biography of Churchill,The Last Lion, Vol.I, Visions of Glory, there's a wonderful set piece at the beginning that beautifully sets out the thorough-going promiscuity of the English upper class. They'd all meet at someone's huge castle, and when they retired for the night they would pair up with someone not their spouse, and in the morning a factotum would sound a gong so that everyone would return to their respective rooms to present a public face at breakfast..

I haven't been listening to the news much this past week. If Texas has already seceded, somebody let me know, my passport has lapsed.

White House website deluged with secession petitions from 20 states

WH policy is to issues formal replies at 25K. The anticipation is too much to handle.

Correcton: .08% are motivated neoconfederates with internet connectivity. Naturally, this constituency is underrepresented on the internet, what with the literacy requirement and all...

I don't think I'm above it all, it's just that gluttony and sloth are my more typical sins of choice.

Florida GOP Rep. Allen West, who is stubbornly refusing to concede to his Democratic challenger, has something to look forward to if he gives up: an invitation to run for office in Georgia.

“I would be glad to have [West] come back to Georgia and at some point run here,” Georgia GOP chairwoman Sue Everhart told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution...

Everhart called West, who was born and raised in Atlanta, “one of the finest congressmen this country’s ever had.”

WH policy is to issues formal replies at 25K. The anticipation is too much to handle.

All it requires is for at least one state to cross the symbolic gesture of secession for Obama to react.

thats the goal, we want him to react, we should expect him to declare some form of retribution, restriction of movement, curfews and even the importation of UN troops to secure that particular states offices.

Secession is the ONLY legitimate way to begin an end to our association with the F’ing idiots who crave a socialist “benign” dictatorship. Our problem isnt the M’er F’ers in the elected offices. We could organize a mission to coordinate the assassination every single leftist POS in every single elected position and it would benefit us nothing. They would be replaced by the same or worse from the PEOPLE who have undergone years (decades) of indoctrination.

Our problem... THE problem... is the weak minded fools that allowed themselves to be sucked in to the death cult of forced collectivism.

and its only going to get worse as marxist teachers at government schools continue to pray on the weak minded among us, turning them against us and themselves.

The ballot box, as a means to right this ship is finished. In fact, this ship is finished... But its just a ship. a means of transporting a cargo. We can build another ship to safeguard the precious cargo that is now in danger of being sunk. Freedom and liberty do not have to be lost to the bottom of the ocean, we only need to have the desire, will and courage to leave the old and construct a new means of transporting them to future generations.

Although America carried President Obama confidently into a second term last Tuesday, I am confident that there was significant fraud.
Who won is anybody’s guess.

“0bama would never let this happen without a fight. The military would be divided which would lead to a bloody conflict. The real danger would come from an opportunistic foreign power that would either invade America or would strike a deal with 0bama to support him with troops if he agreed to be a figurehead dictator while they made all the decisions. Whether that would be Russia, China or Iran, is the question.”

This is the scenario Obama was installed to create in the U.S. Nothing shocking or unexpected is happening. All this was set in motion the day Obama took over the presidency.

There is no more time to straighten out the GOP or form a third conservative party. We are too far in debt, too far out of control on monetary supply, and the crisis is now, not four years or twelve years. Now is the time of collapse.
I pray that the Great Plains states and the deep South secede. It will smooth the fall and limit the chaos, and maybe save lives.

This would be a gift for Obama. He can play Abraham Lincoln, his favorite President, and can suspend Habeas Corpus just like he did, and abuse it like a bloodthirsty banana dictator, unlike Abe, who didn’t go quite that far. He can also push through sweeping constitutional changes, as was done after Abe’s death, but this will not be merely abolishing slavery and granting full citizenship rights to freedmen. After crushing the secessionists, he can admit Cuba as the 52nd State in the Union, and Venezuela as the 53rd, and nationalize all manufacturing and agriculture.

On whitehouse.gov, there are ~72,000 signatures on the drone strike succession petition. WH policy is to issues formal replies at 25K. The anticipation is too much to handle.

In an interview with Politico, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal criticized the Republican party as too anti-intellectual and too beholden to the wealthy.

He said that “offensive, bizarre” comments have damaged the party’s brand. “We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism,” he added. “We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

That's a relief. I mean, I already speak Texan, but if we'd really bolted, I was fixing to have to learn the lyrics to George Strait's River of Love and the rules of NASCAR.

I do know why anyone cares – because this is still a Puritanical country where we'd all like to believe that sex should be reserved for hetero married couples, once a year without undue noise or movement, underneath the Christmas tree after the children have been knocked unconscious by eggnog.

But that said, my rhetorical question remains, who cares? Two adults wanted to send mash notes over e-mail without their spouse(s) and/or other crush(es) finding out. I am shocked, shocked to find that eroticism is going on in this country :)

“I would be glad to have [West] come back to Georgia and at some point run here,” Georgia GOP chairwoman Sue Everhart told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution...

Everhart called West, who was born and raised in Atlanta, “one of the finest congressmen this country’s ever had.”

Remember Bobby Jindal's 15 minutes of fame? Those were the days

we should expect [Obama] to declare some form of retribution, restriction of movement, curfews and even the importation of UN troops to secure that particular states offices.

we should expect [Obama] to declare some form of retribution, restriction of movement, curfews and even the importation of UN troops to secure that particular states offices.

My district - boy howdy would I enjoy watching him try.

Criticisms are like snowflakes, no two are ever exactly alike...

That's even worse! In a long-term relationship, you have all sorts of case law to get you out of trouble.

I was going to sign your petition, Dan, but I was too lazy to make an account.

The quotes from #7620 are just so crazy that I have to believe that most of them are DKos/ThinkProgress trolls just stirring up crazy stuff to point and laugh at later.

Ever read the comments section to an article on a big media site? There is no literacy requirement on the internet.

Correcton: .08% are motivated neoconfederates with internet connectivity. Naturally, this constituency is underrepresented on the internet, what with the literacy requirement and all...


Some are sarcastic bastards willing to be rid of some states, I'm guessing.

It's very much that, Buehrle. It's just that we define fitness for public service in this country by a bizarre set of irrelevant moral standards.

revealed leaked classified documents

marxist teachers at government schools continue to pray on the weak minded among us

I'd say there is a reasonable need for absolute OpSec regarding the Director of CIA's travel, wouldn't you?

Still I admit this story just keeps getting better with the recent addition of the other other woman's twin sister and the child custody hearing and the various bankruptcies. It is a never ending spiral.

we should expect [Obama] to declare some form of retribution, restriction of movement, curfews and even the importation of UN troops to secure that particular states offices.

Apparently, Operation Water Moccasin was the designation for a war game
that was to take place under the sponsorship of the U.S. Army's Special
Warfare School at Fort Bragg. This kind of thing is, by the way, very
common. Anyway, apparently some foreign officers from allied countries (
including some Third World nations) were undergoing training at the Special
Warfare School (also quite common), and they were going to take part in the
war game. The Pentagon issued a routine press release to this effect.

A Southern congressman came upon the press release in his routine
government mail, and raised some objection--I can't remember to what. But
he started talking about it to his constituents (maybe even did a mailing
back to the folks in his home district), and that's when the fecal matter
began to hit the fan. This account spread widely and changed rapidly.
BEfore you know it, people are hearing that the United Nations is staging
Operation Water Moccasin as part of the plan to merge the U.S. into a world
government. This mentality seems pretty close to what we hear today coming
from various "militias": the New World Order is coming to take away our
guns and set up a one-world government!

Let me stress that this rumor found fertile ground mostly in rural areas.
People living in places like Atlanta and Birmingham probably never heard it
. But it was spread through rural areas by newspapers (one such paper even
had an "official" map of the zones of occupation planned for the U.S. It
seems that the South was scheduled for occupation mostly by African troops,
and you can imagine what kinds of buttons THAT pushed), small radio
stations (the kind that usually have one nut preaching over the air for 12
hours a day) and, or course, word of mouth. Apparently, there was quite
the panic.

to the point that they actually screen for those things when you're applying for security credentials

Atheists: way worse than Blacks, Jews, and even Homos: http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2012/11/13/164963163/would-you-vote-for-an-atheist-tell-the-truth

Atheists: way worse than Blacks, Jews, and even Homos

From Politico - "Former CIA director David Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell, discussed their extramarital dalliances using an email technique favored by Al Qaeda, according to a report.
Rather than sending emails back and forth to each other, Petraeus and Broadwell shared an email account where both would write messages and leave them in the “draft” folder, according to The Associated Press. The other person would then log in to the account, read the draft email, delete it and then compose a response, also to be left as a draft note"

Well, there's reason to demand his resignation right there. That's pretty piss-poor crytopgraphy from a dude that's supposed to be heading the frigging CIA. Makes me wonder if someone can hack into Langley as guest/password.

I'll "snatch" a Coke for someone if they have already posted this unfortunate error:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/denver-abc-station-misnames-paula-broadwells-petraeus-book-all-up-in-my-snatch/

That seems pretty workable. If you don't use each others' real names, where's the weakness? And how long are deleted emails kept on a host server, anyway [nervously]?

Like I said, not condoning, but just pointing out that "classified" means many things and in the last few decades the military has run around classifying everything. He should have known better and not leaked it - he needs to follow the rules after all - but some folks (not many here though) are acting like leaking classified documents (any classified document) is half a step away from handing the keys of the White House to Canada.

andy, when was that (owm)?

I act like the director of the CIA potentially leaking classified documents to his mistress is something that should go directly to the President, without passing Go, without collecting two hundred dollars.

You really want to blame Obama for this, don't you?

If he did know about it, that raises another problem.

Well, an "non-theist" was elected to Congress just last week.

While Sinema’s campaign was initially unavailable for comment after Tuesday’s election, spokesman Justin Unga said Friday that Sinema does not consider herself a nonbeliever, adding that she prefers a “secular approach.”

“Kyrsten believes the terms non-theist, atheist or nonbeliever are not befitting of her life’s work or personal character,” Unga said in email. “She does not identify as any of the above.”

If he didn't know about this until after the election, he set up a system of willful blindness.

If he didn't know about this until after the election, he set up a system of willful blindness.

A friend in another forum (career military guy) has repeatedly points out the fact that two primary targeting keys for blackmail of agents and personnel are 1) marital infidelity and 2) large ratios of debt, to the point that they actually screen for those things when you're applying for security credentials

You really want to blame Obama for this, don't you?


You really want to not blame Obama for this no matter what. Don't you.

I want to investigate and figure out who deserves blame, including Obama. If he didn't know about this until after the election, he set up a system of willful blindness. If he did know about it, that raises another problem. Sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich because you like Obama's policies is fine for you, but not to be taken seriously by others.

If he didn't know about this until after the election, he set up a system of willful blindness.

I act like the director of the CIA potentially leaking classified documents to his mistress is something that should go directly to the President, without passing Go, without collecting two hundred dollars.

If he didn't know about this until after the election, he set up a system of willful blindness.

Explain this one to me.
Are you suggesting he told the FBI not to tell him anything about any investigation until after the election?

You really want to not blame Obama for this no matter what. Don't you.

I want to investigate and figure out who deserves blame, including Obama. If he didn't know about this until after the election, he set up a system of willful blindness. If he did know about it, that raises another problem. Sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich because you like Obama's policies is fine for you, but not to be taken seriously by others.

they did not want to be on the hook for laying out the bombshell before they hadd all their i's dotted and t's crossed. That is at least possible, right?

A Salafist in Egypt is calling for the destruction of the Sphinx...

Can someone have bigoted beliefs and not be a bigot? Sure, I guess.

But why should we care?

They only put it up to divert attention from the Benghazi story.