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Thursday, January 24, 2013

Over the last two years, Domonic Brown has been better at baseball than Delmon Young

I’ll just wait for Demonicpedia to make the everlasting decision. Thank you.

What if I told you that, according to virtually every objective measure available to us, Dom Brown has been a better baseball player than Delmon Young over the last two seasons?

Over the last two years, Brown has 21 doubles, 3 triples, 10 home runs, 46 walks and 2 hit by pitches in 422 plate appearances. That means he has produced a total of 194 bases in 422 plate appearances (two bases for a double, three for triple, one for a walk, etc.). That’s an average of 0.46 bases per plate appearances. Over the last two seasons, Delmon Young has produced an average of 0.43 bases per plate appearance.

Power? Young has the edge in home runs, averaging one every 34.9 at bats, while Brown checks in at one every 37.1 at bats. But Brown has an edge in extra base hits, averaging one every 10.9 ABs, with Young checking in at one every 13.1 ABs. Of Brown’s 89 hits, 38 percent have gone for extra bases. Of Young’s 280 hits, 29 percent have gone for extra bases.

...Really, the best anybody can say for Young is that the two players’ production has been similar. The big difference, of course, is that we at least have enough of a sample size to say that Young can be expected to give the Phillies mediocre production. Maybe you think we have enough of a sample size to say the same thing about Brown, and that he has already peaked at 24 years old, and that Young after seven years in the majors has more upside.

I’m just not sure that it makes sense to give Delmon Young his fourth opportunity to fulfil his potential before giving Domonic Brown his first real one.

Repoz Posted: January 24, 2013 at 06:52 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 24, 2013 at 07:23 AM (#4353862)
There is an article in the Philly paper titled "Risk with Young isn't just attitude". On the inside, the continuation headline is "Young's issues aren't limited".

Sums up my feelings about the transaction.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: January 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM (#4353919)
Over the last two years, Greg Luzinski has been better at baseball than Delmon Young.
   3. ColonelTom Posted: January 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM (#4353947)
Delmon's giving the Bull a run at the barbecue, though.
   4. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: January 24, 2013 at 01:16 PM (#4354080)
Delmon Yount. Just because.
   5. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: January 24, 2013 at 01:28 PM (#4354091)
Delmon Yount. Just because.

For the sake of curiosity, did you find him when typoing "Delmon Young" into BRef?
   6. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: January 24, 2013 at 02:29 PM (#4354166)
Delmon Yount. Just because.


It's amazing what Google can tell you. Delmon Yount passed away in 2009. He got married in 1946 to Helen Statler. The story mentions details of the wedding and his education, also that Yount spent three years in the military during the war, two of them overseas. This probably would have been 1943-46, so age 23 to 25 -- there goes the chance at a baseball career, though after the wedding he was going to play ball in Springfield, Illinois. I'm presuming this is the Delmon Yount who won a Silver Star while serving with the 4th Armored Division. In 1940 he lived with his parents and three brothers in St. Francois, Missouri. I assume this is just St. Francois County. He died in Park Hills, in St. Francois County. He'd lived there for at least 35 years. That fairly creepy page tells us that he subscribed to a pretty average set of magazines.

Delmon and Helen had one kid (there is some spelling confusion here) and three grandchildren. Helen has a Facebook page with a picture of her holding a grandchild (I'm not going to link to it). She spent 32 years as a teacher.

Of course, a tiny bit more sleuthing brings up Delmon's obituary, which tells us much of the above plus a little more. He was a also a teacher, he was a Methodist, he won the Croix de Guerre and a Purple Heart as well as the Silver Star, and he was probably a diabetic, though maybe he just had a loved one who is or was a diabetic.

So -- a ballplayer, a war hero, a husband, a teacher, a grandfather, and he lived to be 88. Google doesn't tell us how he felt about all of this, but from the outside that looks like a hell of a life.
   7. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: January 24, 2013 at 03:37 PM (#4354271)
Terrific job, Fern! (But...did Yount ever see Young play?)
   8. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 24, 2013 at 04:07 PM (#4354299)
It's amazing what Google can tell you.


Holy cow. I'm actually quite impressed by this. Very nice work...

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