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Sunday, January 31, 2010

PB Post: Forgive McGwire? Some old-timers won’t — but others admit steroids might have tempted them

An Eyeball-Poppin’ Load of Excitement and Action! This Stuff’ll Kill Ya…or Maybe it Won’t!

Rico Carty played with Hank Aaron for eight seasons in Milwaukee and Atlanta.

“Hank Aaron will always be the home run king,” Carty said. “Nobody can take that away from him. I don’t think (players who used steroids) should be in the Hall of Fame. We deserve to be in the Hall of Fame because we were clean.”

...Former Yankees Mickey Rivers and Jay Johnstone also won’t condemn players from that era.

“It don’t bother me,” Rivers said. “When I was playing, if some guy said, ‘Any advantage I can get,’ I’d use. I’d use anything that would help me.”

Johnstone called Mc-Gwire a “legitimate” home-run hitter, citing the 49 homers he hit as a rookie.

“I don’t condone it but I can’t hold it against them,” he said. “Had it been available when I played, would I have been attempted to do that when (other guys) were doing it and putting up numbers that I’m not? I don’t know.”

Repoz Posted: January 31, 2010 at 01:36 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Craig Calcaterra Posted: January 31, 2010 at 01:57 AM (#3450864)
Rico Carty, Mickey Rivers and Jay Johnstone? You have to go that far to find some moral outrage? Was Mike Lum unavailable?

EDIT: OK, I'm seeing now that Rivers and Johnstone are not being holier than thou about it. Probably the right move for Mickey Rivers.
   2. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: January 31, 2010 at 02:03 AM (#3450871)
On the other hand, I am liking Bill Lee more and more.
   3. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: January 31, 2010 at 02:08 AM (#3450874)
The idea that players of yesteryear wouldn't have used steroids every day of the week and twice on Sunday if they had been better developed and more readily available is nonsense. Every time I see an oldtimer get up on his high horse about this kind of thing, it occurs to me that he was never seriously tempted and therefore has no idea how he, personally, would have acted in the same situation.
   4. Earvin 'Gold Stars' Johnson Posted: January 31, 2010 at 02:18 AM (#3450877)
But they were tempted - by what was available at the time. And from all accounts, greenies were very popular.
   5. Sox Machine Posted: January 31, 2010 at 02:21 AM (#3450878)
EDIT: OK, I'm seeing now that Rivers and Johnstone are not being holier than thou about it. Probably the right move for Mickey Rivers.

And Johnstone has the right to #####, considering he passed a drug test by Frank Drebin.
   6. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: January 31, 2010 at 04:27 AM (#3450955)
Frank Howard at SABR said that he can't say he wouldn't have been tempted to use the stuff.
   7. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 31, 2010 at 05:32 AM (#3450991)
THAT Frank Howard???

My GOD, that would have been scary
   8. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: January 31, 2010 at 05:51 AM (#3451002)
THAT Frank Howard???

My GOD, that would have been scary


To steal a line from Satchel Paige, he would have hit a home run in Baltimore that would have been caught the next day---in Pitchburg!
   9. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 31, 2010 at 06:26 AM (#3451007)
Frank Howard at SABR said that he can't say he wouldn't have been tempted to use the stuff.


Did he say whether he would have been attempted to use? That's the more interesting question.
   10. Shock Posted: January 31, 2010 at 10:24 AM (#3451047)
We deserve to be in the Hall of Fame because we were clean.”


Does Rico Carty think he's in the HOF?
   11. Tricky Dick Posted: January 31, 2010 at 02:27 PM (#3451068)
Does Rico Carty think he's in the HOF?


I took that to mean that he thinks he should be in the HOF.
   12. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 31, 2010 at 02:58 PM (#3451072)
If Rico had stayed in the lineup for more than 5 consecutive minutes and not had a leather allergy he would have made the HOF.

He could hit with almost anyone

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