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Thursday, May 09, 2013

Pedro Guerrero introduced as manager of Vallejo Admirals

Wonder if OJ will offer a congratulatory phone call…

The former five-time All-Star was known for getting into trouble in the past. In maybe the most publicized case, he was charged with guaranteeing payment for a $200,000 cocaine shipment. He was, however, acquitted of drug conspiracy charges in June 2000.

“I feel like that was a long time ago,” Guerrero said. “I wasn’t charged; I walked free. I feel like I was set up for some reason. I don’t like to look back. I hit 15 home runs in June of 1985 and I don’t even like to talk about that. That’s in the past.”

Fontana addressed that question as well.

“The incident that you are referring to we looked into pretty heavily,” Fontana said. “Like Pedro said, it’s in the rear-view mirror. It was a long time ago. It was determined that someone tried to set him up.”

Fontana said that Guerrero’s life experience could help young players who could become distracted by incidents away from the field.

“A guy like Pedro can sit down and talk to (players) about baseball but can also talk to them about life,” Fontana said. “That’s important. Sometimes the talent is there, but the life experience isn’t. Pedro has a lot of life experience.”

Repoz Posted: May 09, 2013 at 05:41 AM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. What's the realistic upside, RMc? Posted: May 09, 2013 at 08:04 AM (#4438237)
Wasn't Guerrero acquitted because his lawyers argued that Pedro had an IQ of 80 or something, and thus wasn't smart enough to commit the crime in question?
   2. zonk Posted: May 09, 2013 at 08:19 AM (#4438247)
Yes - that was exactly the defense.
   3. Styles P. Deadball Posted: May 09, 2013 at 09:13 AM (#4438301)
Well, that's the type of guy I want managing my club.

Still better than Ned Yost. Cocaine payments, 80 IQ, and everything.
   4. GregD Posted: May 09, 2013 at 09:13 AM (#4438302)
Wasn't Guerrero acquitted because his lawyers argued that Pedro had an IQ of 80 or something, and thus wasn't smart enough to commit the crime in question?
that explains Tommy Lasorda's clean criminal history!
   5. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 09, 2013 at 09:34 AM (#4438318)
I don’t like to look back. I hit 15 home runs in June of 1985 and I don’t even like to talk about that.


Good to know he doesn't like to talk about it so much that he brought it up unprompted :)
   6. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 09, 2013 at 09:42 AM (#4438326)
Wasn't Guerrero acquitted because his lawyers argued that Pedro had an IQ of 80 or something, and thus wasn't smart enough to commit the crime in question?


Jesus. It'll take him all day just to write out a lineup card.
   7. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 09, 2013 at 10:13 AM (#4438363)
"Let's see... I'll have a Big Mac, large fries, I hit 15 home runs in June of 1985, and a large Sprite."
   8. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 09, 2013 at 11:13 AM (#4438431)
Wasn't Guerrero acquitted because his lawyers argued that Pedro had an IQ of 80 or something, and thus wasn't smart enough to commit the crime in question?


Maybe better suited to coaching football.
   9. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: May 09, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4438456)
Isn't 80 about average for a baseball player? And I cannot think of anything in managing baseball team that would require a high IQ.
   10. zack Posted: May 09, 2013 at 12:14 PM (#4438543)
And I cannot think of anything in managing baseball team that would require a high IQ.

I don't think IQ is relevant, but baseballs smarts are, and Guerrero never displayed those either. But we're talking about a brand-new 4-team independent league. The job requirements are "has someone heard your name before"?
   11. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 09, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4438557)

Wasn't Guerrero acquitted because his lawyers argued that Pedro had an IQ of 80 or something, and thus wasn't smart enough to commit the crime in question?

I don't think it matters, but his lawyer claimed that he had an IQ of 70, not 80.

From the LA Times:

Hirsch said Guerrero, 43, dropped out of sixth grade in his native Dominican Republic, has an IQ of 70--borderline retarded--and is unable to accomplish normal adult activities like write a check, purchase insurance or even make a bed. He said the Miami resident receives a small weekly allowance from his wife and his only skill was hitting a baseball.

"The accusation that Pedro Guerrero could finance and underwrite a drug deal is ludicrous," Hirsch said. "He doesn't have the acumen or the ability to finance anything more complicated than lunch."
   12. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: May 09, 2013 at 12:30 PM (#4438574)
I hope he hires Steve Sax to play 2B.
   13. Steve Treder Posted: May 09, 2013 at 12:32 PM (#4438579)
Wasn't there an incident where O.J. Simpson got on the phone with somebody and said that he was doing cocaine with Pedro Guerrero?
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 09, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4438604)
Well, the College of Coaches didn't work out so well, so why not try the Elementary School of Managers?
   15. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 09, 2013 at 01:26 PM (#4438656)
Tony Phillips and Julio Franco will probably be on his team. How much managing could they need?
   16. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: May 09, 2013 at 01:38 PM (#4438671)
Wasn't there an incident where O.J. Simpson got on the phone with somebody and said that he was doing cocaine with Pedro Guerrero?

Ask and you shall receive Mr. Treder. The clip is from Jim Rome, so if you want to skip some of his craziness, fast forward to about 1:30 or so in the clip and you can hear the awesomeness of OJs call.

Youtube audio clip from Jim Rome
   17. SoSH U at work Posted: May 09, 2013 at 01:45 PM (#4438679)
I don't think IQ is relevant, but baseballs smarts are, and Guerrero never displayed those either.


He was smart enough to know where he didn't want to see the ball hit in a crucial situation.

   18. What's the realistic upside, RMc? Posted: May 09, 2013 at 02:22 PM (#4438728)
15 HR in a month is a helluva lot for a guy who hit "only" 200 the entire rest of his career (6,000+ PA). Taking a closer look, we see:

*Pedro hit 7 in Dodger Stadium, 8 on the road...including four in the Astrodome (!), two in one game.

*He had just 19 RBI on those 15 HR; Landreaux scored ahead of him three times, Steve Sax once.

*They were hit off 14 different pitchers, with Joe Niekro (both in Houston and in LA) being victimized twice.

*His slash line for the month: a hearty 344/436/860...which was bettered by Pedro's July of 460/563/794 (which was no doubt helped by a BAbip of .472 (!!).
   19. AROM Posted: May 09, 2013 at 02:29 PM (#4438737)
"Isn't 80 about average for a baseball player? And I cannot think of anything in managing baseball team that would require a high IQ."

Certainly not. There have been studies that show professional athletes tend to be smarter than the average person. That said, Pedro is certainly not the only one with a sub 80 IQ, just the only one who had to use it ( and make it public) in a criminal defense.

   20. Steve Treder Posted: May 09, 2013 at 02:32 PM (#4438740)
It wasn't during that streak, it was early in the year, but I attended this game.

Top of the ninth, two outs, bases empty. Dave Freaking LaPoint is THIS close to a CG one-hit shutout.

And he walks Mike Marshall, and then Guerrero goes yard to tie it up. Criminy.

Guerrero was a monster hitter. Just a monster.
   21. Styles P. Deadball Posted: May 09, 2013 at 02:49 PM (#4438758)
Mike Marshall


Guerrero was a monster, but damn were the Dodgers good at ferreting out the guys who were Albuquerque mirages in those days.

Greg Brock. I be looking at you.
   22. Posada Posse Posted: May 10, 2013 at 12:44 AM (#4439264)
Double post
   23. Posada Posse Posted: May 10, 2013 at 12:46 AM (#4439265)
Hirsch said Guerrero, 43, dropped out of sixth grade in his native Dominican Republic, has an IQ of 70--borderline retarded--and is unable to accomplish normal adult activities like write a check, purchase insurance or even make a bed. He said the Miami resident receives a small weekly allowance from his wife and his only skill was hitting a baseball.


Well, this is true. He was a butcher playing third base.

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