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Sunday, September 02, 2012

Pedroia, Aceves downplay dugout dispute

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What happened exactly? That was difficult to ascertain because Aceves and Pedroia both chose to say little about it, and manager Bobby Valentine didn’t share much more.

“I’m not sure it was a big flare-up,” Valentine said. “It was about positioning. Dustin said when he gets the sign he moves and Alfredo wanted to move him on his own. It’s Alfredo being Alfredo and Dustin being a baseball player.”

After Aceves pitched the fourth inning, he and Pedroia were caught on camera in a heated discussion, one that required the intervention of third-base coach Jerry Royster. Valentine tried to intercede but Aceves waved him away.

Aceves had made a few pickoff throws to second, and they seemed to catch Pedroia off guard, because he was not on the bag when the throws came.

In the clubhouse after the game, Pedroia was tight-lipped about the incident when reporters questioned him.

“That’s none of your guys’ business,” he said. “It’s between teammates.”

Aceves tersely refused to concede that he was even upset with Pedroia.

“You are saying I’m upset,” he responded to a reporter. “I wasn’t upset.”

When he was asked what was going on, Aceves said: “It was things about our team. It was something that we have to communicate between us. But that’s between us. It’s part of the game.”

Repoz Posted: September 02, 2012 at 02:27 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dale Sams Posted: September 02, 2012 at 02:53 AM (#4224934)
I'm embarassed for Bobby right now about on a "Ricky Gervais/Extras" level.
   2. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: September 02, 2012 at 05:24 AM (#4224944)
They just showed the dugout exchange on the news. Aceves did not look upset. Pedroia looked slightly annoyed, after 30 seconds or so. BFD.
   3. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: September 02, 2012 at 08:32 AM (#4224960)
It turns out that they are annoyed, but not at each other. Valentine told them the season is over around October 1st, not September 1st.

As a Red Sox fan, I find that news pretty annoying, too.
   4. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: September 02, 2012 at 08:47 AM (#4224967)
It looked like a pretty nothing argument. The funny thins is Bobby V was sitting right behind them as they "went at it" and seemed completely oblivious. Another coach came over and made the peace. Later in the inning Pedroia and Aceves were talking normally to each other--I'm guessing Pedroia reminded him not to run into the catcher and drop pop ups.
   5. JE (Jason) Posted: September 02, 2012 at 09:16 AM (#4224977)
Apparently, Aceves' botched attempt to catch the Gomes pop-up in the fourth didn't help lighten the mood.
   6. Bruce Markusen Posted: September 02, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4224985)
I just saw the replay, and while Aceves did not apper all that upset with Pedroia, he was clearly upset with Valentine and motioned for him to go away.
   7. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: September 02, 2012 at 10:43 AM (#4225011)
I just saw the replay, and while Aceves did not apper all that upset with Pedroia, he was clearly upset with Valentine and motioned for him to go away.


The humane thing to do would be to let Valentine go now. He's clearly not coming back next season and he's lost a clubhouse he's never had. I feel bad for the guy. Well, sort of.
   8. Danny Posted: September 02, 2012 at 01:05 PM (#4225056)
"It’s Alfredo being Alfredo and Dustin being a baseball player.”

Ha.
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 02, 2012 at 01:34 PM (#4225079)
he was clearly upset with Valentine and motioned for him to go away.


Aceves has officially joined Red Sox Nation.
   10. Dale Sams Posted: September 02, 2012 at 02:20 PM (#4225111)
he was clearly upset with Valentine and motioned for him to go away.


But seriously...when since the 40's...has a manager been told "Get the #### out of here, don't touch me. Go away, the adults are talking here."
   11. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: September 02, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4225130)
I'm not a fan of the Bobby V that I saw on TV during his post-Mets years, but I don't blame him for much of what happened to the team this year. I don't like my bosses much, but I give my best effort most of the time while I'm at work, in spite of my feelings for management. Tanking on manager is pathetic. I don't buy the idea that they do it to get rid of the manager. I think they do it because there's no repercussions for doing it. That it serves to get the manager fired is beside the point. It's unprofessional.
   12. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 02, 2012 at 03:29 PM (#4225154)
Have you considered changing your handle to "Joe Bivens, Responsible Adult"?
   13. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: September 02, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4225166)
I just saw the replay, and while Aceves did not apper all that upset with Pedroia, he was clearly upset with Valentine and motioned for him to go away.

Aceves usually seems cool as a hothouse cucumber, so for him to react that way is pretty revealing.

Knowing the appetite of the media for controversy, I'm surprised that I can't say that I've ever seen such an obvious display of distaste from a player toward his manager. Well, except for that time that Tomo Okha refused to hand over the ball on the mound to Frank Robinson.
   14. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: September 02, 2012 at 04:18 PM (#4225189)
I thought Aceves had a reputation for being a bit difficult. Wasn't that why the yanks let him go?
   15. Jay Seaver Posted: September 02, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4225211)
I seem to recall reading that was part of why the Yankees let him go (he was injured, too), and the last couple of years have had the occasional instance of him being kind of a pain. Every time he pitches, the broadcasts seem to note that he doesn't seem to trust his catcher much at all, even when the almost-universally respected Cap'n Tek was behind the plate. So, yeah, he's difficult, but the last couple of weeks have been something else.
   16. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 02, 2012 at 05:01 PM (#4225221)
Aceves, in my mind, has such a reputation for being a loose cannon that I took [13] as sarcasm.
   17. Benji Posted: September 02, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4225272)
Am I missing something here? Is Aceves so good that this kind of stuff keeps happening and he doesn't get released? The 49ers cut Braylon Edwards on the brink of the playoffs because they didn't want his distractions. The Sox aren't headed for the post-season, so why not just cut him?
And as for V, I was always a fan, but he never should have taken that job. The last coaches that were that bad a fit were Tarkanian with the Spurs and Petrino with the Falcons.
   18. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 02, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4225284)
I thought Aceves had a reputation for being a bit difficult. Wasn't that why the yanks let him go?


The Yanks let Aceves go because he missed most of 2010 with a back injury that he wouldn't rehab, and then broke his shoulder in a bike accident and was projected to miss the first two months of 2011. It seemed like there may have been some willful miscommunication about the injuries on his part. There was definitely more than a hint of fed-up-with-this in Cashman's comments at the time of the non-tender. He's a pretty good reliever, but probably not good enough to get away with being insubordinate.
   19. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: September 02, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4225313)
Yeah, it's seeming likely that Aceves was non-tendered because he's not just an #######, but an ####### in a way that hurts the team & pisses off ownership.

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