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Friday, November 11, 2011

Pete Rose serves players as unofficial advisor

Bet Advisor: I Analyze, you lose.

Rose regularly attends games each season in Cincinnati and Philadelphia, two of the places where he played during his 23-year career, and is often introduced to players.

“Then they end up texting me all the time,” Rose said. “I have play-hard credentials. No b———t, no non-sense credentials and I think players respect that. That’s why young players like me today.”

...Rose said it’s not a matter of proper coaching not being available for today’s players, but rather an issue with their self-esteem.

“It’s amazing what of lack of confidence some of these players have for all that money they’re making,” Rose said.

“When A-Rod texts me it’s all about just patting him on the a—and telling him how good he is. He don’t need me to tell him how to play third base, he can play third base. It’s just re-enforcing that he’s good. With Joey Votto it’s the same thing. The better the player, the less confidence they seem to have.”

...The only criticism Rose has for today’s coaches is that they seem to ignore the fundamentals in some cases.

“I’ve gotten texts from A-Rod before where he said he’s hitting inside the ball,” Rose said. “I texted him back and said, ‘What the hell is that?’ A lot of times these coaches are so technical you forget about seeing the ball and hitting the ball.”

 

Repoz Posted: November 11, 2011 at 10:46 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, reds, sabermetrics, yankees

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   1. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: November 11, 2011 at 11:12 AM (#3991054)
Well that excerpt is certainly a target-rich environment.
   2. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: November 11, 2011 at 03:29 PM (#3991129)
All I do is show up for work, work hard and give an effort. I approach what I do now the same way I did when I played.


You'll never see Pete Rose lollygagging during an autograph. He signs all eight letters, every time.
   3. Bitter Mouse Posted: November 11, 2011 at 03:58 PM (#3991148)
Too many possible ways to go.

Anyway I love how he blames the coaches for Arod using a technical term in a text.
   4. Swedish Chef Posted: November 11, 2011 at 04:18 PM (#3991164)
It’s just re-enforcing that he’s good. With Joey Votto it’s the same thing. The better the player, the less confidence they seem to have.

Funny, I thought if there was anyone that would be immune from the impostor effect it would be a professional athlete, they tend to get instant feedback on just how awesome they are.
   5. Greg K Posted: November 11, 2011 at 04:35 PM (#3991180)
Funny, I thought if there was anyone that would be immune from the impostor effect it would be a professional athlete, they tend to get instant feedback on just how awesome they are.

They also get the pleasure of failing in front of an audience of tens of thousands (millions if you include TV). I can imagine being a professional athlete can be a catalyst for just about every psychological malady there is.
   6. Tripon Posted: November 11, 2011 at 04:59 PM (#3991199)
This is setting off my bullshit meter.
   7. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: November 11, 2011 at 05:31 PM (#3991216)
They also get the pleasure of failing in front of an audience of tens of thousands (millions if you include TV). I can imagine being a professional athlete can be a catalyst for just about every psychological malady there is.

Pure false consciousness there, as we all know that players with potential mental issues never get signed to begin with. Or at least that's what Professor Sigmund DiPerna sez, and who are you to contradict him?
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 11, 2011 at 05:38 PM (#3991226)
You'll never see Pete Rose lollygagging during an autograph. He signs all eight letters, every time.


And he adds the digits 4, 1, 9 and 2 as a bonus!
   9. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: November 11, 2011 at 06:13 PM (#3991242)
Pete Rose hit twenty doubles, but thirty triples, as a 20-year-old in D ball? What an odd-looking stat line.
   10. Hack Wilson Posted: November 11, 2011 at 06:24 PM (#3991246)
What a great mentor Rose is. I think if Penn State called Petey would listen.
   11. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: November 11, 2011 at 06:29 PM (#3991248)
Pete Rose hit twenty doubles, but thirty triples, as a 20-year-old in D ball? What an odd-looking stat line.


It must have been a huge field. The team had 22 home runs and 72 triples in 134 games, but the stats may be incomplete. Other than two guys who had no doubles and one triple, nobody else had more 3B than 2B.

EDIT: The whole league was kind of like that. The teams combined for 404 triples and 209 HR.
   12. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 11, 2011 at 07:18 PM (#3991279)
The 1960 Tampa Tarpons played in Al Lopez Field.

LF - 340
CF - 400
RF - 340

This article calls it a "bandbox", and says Rose's 30 triples is the FSL record.
   13. zonk Posted: November 11, 2011 at 07:26 PM (#3991287)
What are things that will not end well, Alex....

Bad Ideas again for $400.

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