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Wednesday, October 11, 2017

Peter Gammons: Moving on from the anticipated departure of John Farrell - GammonsDaily.com

I don’t see Ausmus as a fit.

This is an important decision. The window here closes soon, where the Yankee window is just opening. The good young Red Sox players are soon going to make big coin. According to MLBTraderumors.com, Mookie Betts, Jackie Bradley, Jr., Tyler Thornburg, Xander Bogaerts, Eduardo Rodriguez, Joe Kelly and Drew Pomeranz stand to make between $30-35M in arbitration this winter. If so, they will take the payroll within $20-25M of the luxury tax threshold. So forget Eric Hosmer. Maybe J.D. Martinez, who as a left fielder-DH, would necessitate trading a Bradley for the $6M he likely will make.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 11, 2017 at 09:23 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. stevegamer Posted: October 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM (#5550729)
The Yankees & Red Sox can afford payrolls that mean if the team is well managed the windows for them never truly close. They just have to deal with some luxury tax from time to time.
   2. John Northey Posted: October 11, 2017 at 11:34 PM (#5550837)
True, but all teams appear to be acting like the luxury tax is a hard cap now. A few will be over but the Yankees are acting like they'll do almost anything to stay under this year as many others are too. Should be interesting to see if the teams hold on to that or not this winter.
   3. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 12, 2017 at 09:09 AM (#5550949)
True, but all teams appear to be acting like the luxury tax is a hard cap now. A few will be over but the Yankees are acting like they'll do almost anything to stay under this year as many others are too. Should be interesting to see if the teams hold on to that or not this winter.


I think it's more about only being over for 1 maybe 2 years in a row. Each year over adds more to the tax bill. The Yankees were paying 50% on their overage, a first time payer would be at 20%.
   4. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 12, 2017 at 09:20 AM (#5550959)
HEAVEN FORBID WE ALLOW PLAYERS TO BE PAID A MARKET RATE FOR THEIR SERVICES.

One of the great things to come out of the Marlins sale was the revelation that they had one of the highest-paid front offices in the game. Nobody cares about doughy pasty guys shoving the money in their pockets. It's those sweaty jocks trying to make the most of their short window of marketability that need to be curbed.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 12, 2017 at 09:23 AM (#5550965)
True, but all teams appear to be acting like the luxury tax is a hard cap no

But even a $200M hard cap means your window should never really close. You'll have bad years, but should never need a prolonged rebuilding period where you win <75 games.
   6. Rally Posted: October 13, 2017 at 02:20 PM (#5553240)
The good young Red Sox players are soon going to make big coin. According to MLBTraderumors.com, Mookie Betts, Jackie Bradley, Jr., Tyler Thornburg, Xander Bogaerts, Eduardo Rodriguez, Joe Kelly and Drew Pomeranz stand to make between $30-35M in arbitration this winter.


Is that supposed to sound like a lot? That is a tremendous amount of value: 1 MVP level performer, a very good starting shortstop and center fielder, two starting pitchers, and two relievers. If they were all on the free agent market you would probably have to pay over 100 million annually to bring them back. Meanwhile the Red Sox will pay 30 million for a single left-handed reliever.
   7. dlf Posted: October 13, 2017 at 02:40 PM (#5553269)
One of the great things to come out of the Marlins sale was the revelation that they had one of the highest-paid front offices in the game. Nobody cares about doughy pasty guys shoving the money in their pockets. It's those sweaty jocks trying to make the most of their short window of marketability that need to be curbed.


If it comes to money in Loria / Samson's pockets, I'm all for scorn and ridicule. And hey, your alma matter appears to have fixed the problem of players not getting enough folding money in Oxford. :)

That being said, I think that many teams would be better served by spending more on off-field matters. Paying for quality meals for minor leaguers, having first class training staff & medical personnel, perhaps adding a few dozen video analysts to document and break down the mechanics for scouting and training purposes ... while there is a limit on the number of coaches in the dugout, add non-uniformed coaches who specialize on either small elements of play or small groups of players.
   8. jmurph Posted: October 13, 2017 at 03:21 PM (#5553335)
Is that supposed to sound like a lot? That is a tremendous amount of value: 1 MVP level performer, a very good starting shortstop and center fielder, two starting pitchers, and two relievers. If they were all on the free agent market you would probably have to pay over 100 million annually to bring them back.

Agree. If Boston's window is closing, then that phrase doesn't mean a whole lot. They have multiple young, cheap players at premium positions who have shown All Star level talent. They have holes to fill, as all teams do. They're fine.

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