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Monday, December 11, 2017

Peter Gammons: Splashes and notes from the Orlando Winter Meetings - GammonsDaily.com

Stanton and Judge are from the same cloth, modest, respectful, thoughtful. They’re now the biggest show in baseball. Red Sox fans do not want to waste an Advent Sunday thinking about the potential of having four lefthanded starts in their rotation against them, plus Sanchez and Torres…or the reminder from one Yankee official that Frazier and Miguel Andujar will be in there sometime this season.

Oh yes, and Cashman and Steinbrenner have them under the luxury tax threshold, so instead of being taxed at 50% when Bryce Harper and Manny Machado come out next fall, it will be 20%. Many psychologists believe that no matter what we may believe, 90% of decisions are inherently irrational.

So Cashman has made the Yankees outliers hitting in a stadium that in many important stretches has little outfield over which the 21st Century Bombers can launch.

Jim Furtado Posted: December 11, 2017 at 06:15 AM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. ??'s Biggest Fan! Posted: December 11, 2017 at 09:56 AM (#5589932)
Does he use an editor for his stuff posted to his website? This is almost indecipherable.
   2. dejarouehg Posted: December 11, 2017 at 10:30 AM (#5589955)
I don't think so. He could do away with some of his parenthetical inserts/comments, but on the whole, I still enjoy reading his work even if he does ignore large parts of the league.
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: December 11, 2017 at 10:38 AM (#5589965)

Does he use an editor for his stuff posted to his website?


It's a free site with no advertising written by a guy who suffered a serious brain injury 10 years ago. I think this is the best we can reasonably hope for.
   4. dejarouehg Posted: December 11, 2017 at 10:50 AM (#5589987)
I didn't recall a brain injury. What happened to him? (Being serious - I thought he might have had a stroke.)
   5. Batman Posted: December 11, 2017 at 10:50 AM (#5589988)
I don't think he liked editing on his newspaper columns. Or the editors just threw up their hands and left it up to the reader.

Gammons had an aneurysm. It seemed to slow him down a little on MLB Network after he came back, but I still like his work. You can always tell he really knows and likes baseball, and that earns some leeway with me.
   6. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: December 11, 2017 at 11:51 AM (#5590101)
Gammons had an aneurysm. It seemed to slow him down a little on MLB Network after he came back, but I still like his work. You can always tell he really knows and likes baseball, and that earns some leeway with me.


True, but.......

</gammonspeak>
   7. dlf Posted: December 11, 2017 at 12:18 PM (#5590124)
You can always tell he really knows and likes baseball, and that earns some leeway with me.


Yep. He may have lost a few mph off his fastball, but I go out of my way to read writers who clearly love baseball and similarly avoid those who write with barely (if at all) concealed hatred for their subject matter. Give me Gammons' semi-sensical ramblings anyday over a Plaschke or Shaughnessy or Pearlman.
   8. wjones Posted: December 11, 2017 at 02:11 PM (#5590244)
Gammons had an aneurysm. It seemed to slow him down a little on MLB Network after he came back, but I still like his work. You can always tell he really knows and likes baseball, and that earns some leeway with me.

Speaking of physical limitations, has anyone seen that Matt Yallof has returned to MLB Network? Seems they are gradually working him in. His speech is noticeably slower, but all in all he seems to have made a remarkable recovery. Good to see.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: December 11, 2017 at 02:28 PM (#5590266)
Many psychologists believe that no matter what we may believe, 90% of decisions are inherently irrational.


This is tremendous.
   10. Rob_Wood Posted: December 11, 2017 at 03:11 PM (#5590311)
Every sportswriter tries to carve out a niche for themselves. Gammons cornered the market on long rambling sentence fragments that have only a passing resemblance to coherent thoughts (oftentimes the end of the sentence has no bearing on the beginning of the sentence).

But I love Peter and his writing "style".
   11. Batman Posted: December 11, 2017 at 03:22 PM (#5590333)
And Mike Crudale.

The Random Diamond Notes page is still up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Yankees are a team that could easily have lost 83 games last year, adn there's still the whole Aaron Boone business, but they can still throw Miguel Andujar and a rejuvenated Kyle Higashioka out there, and then there's Gary Sanchez.

Will Seth Lugo and his kitten please come home?
   12. donlock Posted: December 12, 2017 at 12:43 AM (#5590561)
But what does this mean?

living in the immediate, and when he and Hal Steinbrenner set out to make over the Yankees from their post-Messersmith Decision prominence—from Reggie Jackson to Alex Rodriguez—to a team whose history and resources take them to the level of multi-dimensional power, he did it with patience, and he did it with modesty and he did it with detail.

What is a "post-Messersmith Decision prominence"? What is "multi-dimensional power"? How is it an example of patience, modesty and detail?

Gammo is a graduate of the Groton school in NE. His old English teachers must be spinning in their graves.
   13. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: December 12, 2017 at 12:28 PM (#5590843)
I actually think Gammons writing is kind of beautiful if you put in the correct punctuation and add a few words. Like the first sentence:

Stanton and Judge are from the same cloth, modest, respectful, thoughtful.


As it is, it's a disaster.

1) It's a cliche
2) it leaves out the "cut" from the cliche
3) the serial commas just make no sense. That's far too much work for the first comma to do!
4) There needs to be an "and" before thoughtful, no matter what else you do.
5) Even if you put a colon after cloth, making it a list, the words "modest, respectful, thoughtful" would seem to refer to the cloth, not the players.

But, if you just ignore this, it scans pretty well on the internet and you get the point.
   14. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: December 12, 2017 at 12:37 PM (#5590846)
Couple of really bold statements, there.... (hint, hint)
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: December 12, 2017 at 12:41 PM (#5590850)
Nope. Didn't work.
   16. PreservedFish Posted: December 12, 2017 at 12:56 PM (#5590863)
#13 -

Ok, now do that with this one:

So Cashman has made the Yankees outliers hitting in a stadium that in many important stretches has little outfield over which the 21st Century Bombers can launch.
   17. Batman Posted: December 12, 2017 at 12:58 PM (#5590865)


donlock is boldlock
   18. Batman Posted: December 12, 2017 at 01:00 PM (#5590867)
Is that better?
   19. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: December 12, 2017 at 01:02 PM (#5590871)
Better is subjective.
   20. jmurph Posted: December 12, 2017 at 01:13 PM (#5590875)
I see it's time for my semi-annual plea to JUST USE THE ####### BUTTONS.
   21. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: December 12, 2017 at 03:08 PM (#5590984)
I see it's time for my semi-annual plea to JUST USE THE ####### BUTTONS.


Buttons disappear when you're on "edit."
   22. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: December 12, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5591110)
Phew, and here I was thinking pedantry had died at primer.

Gammons is what he is. He loves baseball and he's somewhat informative, that's good enough for me. Then again my command of the written language is quite average so I more then happy to overlook a number of grammatical errors.
   23. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: December 12, 2017 at 04:40 PM (#5591119)
The text reads like he is speaking into a recorder. The cadence and patterns make a lot more sense if you heard them in conversation.

I agree with those who are glad to have a writer who loves the sport.

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