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1. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:22 AM (#4216470)So, really, starters go deep into games primarily to maintain that advantage. But a completely unused bullpen forfeits that advantage. It's an interesting strait to navigate and probably the single most difficult (and therefore important) strategic element a manger has to deal with.
OK, in 1988 they did have pitch counts. Those duded did manage 60%QS and 6.4 IP/start ... but just 94 pitch/GS vs. 2011's 96. In fact, most pitchers per start since 1988 when b-r tracks them ...
2000: 98
2012: 96
2011: 96
2010: 96
1999: 96
Everything else in the last 25 years is below that, never lower than 92. The distribution around that mean is a lot tighter than it used to be with >120 pitch starts and <80 down. The >120 are especially down heavily in 2012 with just 17 so far compared to 59 last year and 79 in 2010.
People who want to bag on the quality start focus on the minimum to qualify for the stat, and not what it is really saying. It's a better stat for pitcher than wins, and that isn't remotely debateable.
So, which part of that is the lie?
Good point. And along with that minimum bar point, the "average" QS would obviously still look pretty good because you get the best games and filter out the chaff. If it was called "games where the pitcher did not suck," or "acceptable starts" it would probably be less controversial.
Definitely parallels the de-emphasis on the swing man. If most relievers are really accustomed to one inning roles, it is harder to patch together 6-7 IP of relief.
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