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Friday, February 01, 2008

Philadelphia Daily News: Amaro: Feliz ‘a winning player’ (RR)

and as his B-Ref sponsor page calls him…The “Prodigious Out Making Machine.”

Why would the Giants, a team that finished next to last in runs scored in 2007, make so little effort to keep him? Why, in fact, would they offer him less than the $5 million he made last season and why did he end up having to take a pay cut to come to the Phillies?

“I don’t know,” Feliz said softly. “I would love to know. But I don’t know why.”

One ranking baseball official with intimate knowledge of the San Francisco front office, offered this opinion: “He has the ability, the raw tools,” he said. “He has the potential to be a pretty decent player. His raw numbers are pretty good. And he’s a manager’s dream, an outstanding young man who doesn’t complain about anything.

“But then you see him swing at a 1-2 slider in the dirt with two outs and the tying run on third. Or you know that he’s a pretty good third baseman with a superb arm, yet when a big play is needed, he sometimes drops the throw.

“Maybe somebody can get to him. But you look at his on-base percentage [.288] and the other things and he just wasn’t consistent enough.”

Repoz Posted: February 01, 2008 at 01:25 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. HGM Posted: February 01, 2008 at 01:38 PM (#2681465)
I think the dude's been incredibly consistent.
   2. rfloh Posted: February 01, 2008 at 01:50 PM (#2681466)
Why would the Giants, a team that finished next to last in runs scored in 2007, make so little effort to keep him? Why, in fact, would they offer him less than the $5 million he made last season and why did he end up having to take a pay cut to come to the Phillies?


But then you see him swing at a 1-2 slider in the dirt with two outs and the tying run on third.


But you look at his on-base percentage [.288]
   3. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: February 01, 2008 at 03:33 PM (#2681519)
What's with, "he sometimes drops the throw"? Sounds bizarre, made-up.
   4. The Artist Posted: February 01, 2008 at 06:50 PM (#2681671)
Seriously - Petey's a great guy by all accounts, but there isn't a Giants fan alive who doesn't know what happens on a 2-strike count, with a slider in the dirt.
   5. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 01, 2008 at 07:02 PM (#2681686)
“He has the ability, the raw tools,” he said. “He has the potential to be a pretty decent player. His raw numbers are pretty good. And he’s a manager’s dream, an outstanding young man who doesn’t complain about anything.

Crissakes. He's not a 24 year old prospect. He is what he is at this point.
   6. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: February 01, 2008 at 07:04 PM (#2681690)
Shooty, but the potential is still there...
   7. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 01, 2008 at 07:08 PM (#2681696)
Shooty, but the potential is still there...

True. I'm 35 and I keep hoping my poetry will suddenly stop sucking. Yes, that's right. I write poetry and I drink tea. And I don't even hedge by trying to sound like Bukowski. Now who wants to fight!
   8. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: February 01, 2008 at 09:14 PM (#2681804)
Now who wants to fight!

The ghost of Dylan Thomas told me he would like to put his fist on your gob. "If only," he sepulchrally moaned, "if only. Boys of summer, my ass."
   9. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 01, 2008 at 09:18 PM (#2681808)
The ghost of Dylan Thomas told me he would like to put his fist on your gob. "If only," he sepulchrally moaned, "if only. Boys of summer, my ass."

Ha! Something tells me this isn't going to segue into a one thousand post thread, ala the Rob Neyer movie thread anytime soon.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:11 PM (#2681857)
Why would the Giants, a team that finished next to last in runs scored in 2007, make so little effort to keep him?

Next time someone tries to tell you there's no such thing as a dumb question ...
   11. Boots Day Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:15 PM (#2681859)
I write poetry and I drink tea.

This admission isn't going to help much with your presidential bid, Adlai.
   12. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:19 PM (#2681866)
This admission isn't going to help much with your presidential bid, Adlai.

Jeez, if only you knew what I haven't admitted to yet.
   13. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:27 PM (#2681872)
Now who wants to fight!

And Verlaine's tortured spirit replies, "mais oui!
It shall be, then, upon a summer's day"
As it starts polishing its musket
   14. The Good Face Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:32 PM (#2681880)
I write poetry and I drink tea.

This admission isn't going to help much with your presidential bid, Adlai.


Ah, but so did Miyamoto Musashi, and he was pretty much the most ass-kickingest guy ever!
   15. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:35 PM (#2681883)
I write poetry and I drink tea.

This admission isn't going to help much with your presidential bid, Adlai.


Skill with prose and poetry seems to be a requirement for Indian political leaders! You could try there if you fail here.
   16. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:40 PM (#2681887)
Skill with prose and poetry seems to be a requirement for Indian political leaders! You could try there if you fail here.

Will they settle for effort instead of skill? If I had any skill, I wouldn't be locked in this cubicle with spreadsheets goofing with you guys all day.
   17. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:46 PM (#2681893)

Will they settle for effort instead of skill?


oh thats fine as long as you can portray the image that you are a serious poet! Good money laudering skills help too
   18. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 01, 2008 at 10:51 PM (#2681899)
oh thats fine as long as you can portray the image that you are a serious poet! Good money laudering skills help too

Are you having a laugh. Because those two skills are basically all I've got. Who knew that in this world there could be a place for the likes of me.
   19. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: February 01, 2008 at 11:07 PM (#2681913)
When I saw a Pedro Feliz link go to 18 posts, I knew it had to have gone horribly off-topic. Imagine, poetry and tea. What's this site coming to?
   20. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: February 01, 2008 at 11:31 PM (#2681933)
And how come Jose Mesa can be Joe Table but I have never heard Pedro Feliz called Peter Happy? Imagine the fun with that name.
   21. DCW3 Posted: February 01, 2008 at 11:36 PM (#2681936)
Now people can call him Pedro Philiz.
   22. Steve Treder Posted: February 01, 2008 at 11:38 PM (#2681941)
And how come Jose Mesa can be Joe Table but I have never heard Pedro Feliz called Peter Happy?

Actually he was sometimes referred to as Happy Peter on talk radio in the Bay Area.
   23. Social media assassin (Templeusox) Posted: February 01, 2008 at 11:41 PM (#2681944)
When he first broke into professional baseball, everyone called him Pedro Felix, and that continued for a substantial length of time because he was too polite to correct them.

Thank you Vin Scully.

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