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Friday, August 26, 2011

Phillies announcer, former All-Star Gary Matthews calls Mets ‘crybabies’ in 7-4 Mets victory

A few hours later, in the sixth inning of a horrendous baseball game, [Mike] Pelfrey hung a slider inside to Placido Polanco. Polanco wears an elbow guard, and Pelfrey thought he leaned into the pitch. He shared his feelings with Polanco.

Polanco jawed with Pelfrey and Josh Thole. Some Phillies rose to the top step of their dugout. On television, Phillies broadcaster Gary Matthews - father of Gary Matthews Jr., whom the Mets released last year - called the team “crybabies.”

A while after that, a Daily News reporter saw Matthews in the hallway behind the broadcast booth.

“Tell them Sarge said it - the Mets are crybabies,” Matthews repeated to the reporter, an earnest, Jimmy Olsen-type. “That’s why they lose.”

Announcer and reporter parted, then Matthews doubled back. He closed his fists and made crying motions under his eyes.

“Make sure you have tears, like this,” he said.

Told of this later… [Mets manager Terry] Collins grinned and shrugged.

“I don’t give a (——),” he said.

The District Attorney Posted: August 26, 2011 at 06:34 AM | 33 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM (#3909381)
“Tell them Sarge said it - the Mets are crybabies,” Matthews repeated to the reporter, an earnest, Jimmy Olsen-type. “That’s why they lose.”

Announcer and reporter parted, then Matthews doubled back. He closed his fists and made crying motions under his eyes.


Did he sing the Diarrhea Song afterward and then pull the hair of a girl he secretly likes?
   2. RollingWave Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM (#3909384)
I have a feeling if his son were still on that team...
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM (#3909405)
Please, please, please, may this be egregious enough to get Sarge fired. PLEASE!

Told of this later… Collins grinned and shrugged.

“I don’t give a (— —),” he said.

Perfect response, except I can't figure out any two letter curse word to fit.
   4. Adam B. Posted: August 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM (#3909415)
It's not a two-letter word. It's a pair of boobies smooshed together.
   5. Accent Shallow is probably a hologram Posted: August 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM (#3909416)
Was the "must get out of the way of the pitch" ever strictly enforced?

As long as I can remember, the efforts have seemed pretty token, and enforcement of the rule sporadic and arbitrary.
   6. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq., LLC Posted: August 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM (#3909418)
It's not a two-letter word. It's a pair of boobies smooshed together.
No, it's a Chinese guy. Very racist, Daily News.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: August 26, 2011 at 01:28 PM (#3909445)
Tough to play the "crybabies" card against the winning team, no?

Meanwhile, his kid has not played in the bigs since:
June 15, 2010: Released by the New York Mets.

Who's the crybaby now?
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 26, 2011 at 01:38 PM (#3909458)
As the father of a baby who cries a lot, I must say I find it very offensive my son would be compared to the Mets.
   9. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 26, 2011 at 01:45 PM (#3909467)
No, it's a Chinese guy. Very racist, Daily News.

Wouldn't \ / be a Chinese guy?
   10. Dale Sams Posted: August 26, 2011 at 01:45 PM (#3909468)
No, it's a Chinese guy. Very racist, Daily News.


Looks like Homer Simpson's waist to me.
   11. Sam M. Posted: August 26, 2011 at 02:11 PM (#3909490)
A most opportune time to "hijack" a Mets thread to talk about something Mets-related that actually matters, instead of this nonsense over nothing.

The Mets finally have some high-end prospects, with high-end talent, performing extremely well in the minors. In recent years, the guys with the high ceilings have not performed (or, in some cases, stayed healthy), and the guys who've performed haven't had the high ceilings. But now, Zack Wheeler has been extremely impressive since the trade over from the Giants, Matt Harvey has looked great in Binghamton, and Jeurys Familia is perhaps only a notch behind those two. Even Reese Havens is finally healthy and, not surprisingly, hitting well.

They still don't have the depth of pitching prospects that the Braves do, obviously, but it is really nice to see the guys who at least one day have the chance to be great performing like it.
   12. billyshears Posted: August 26, 2011 at 02:17 PM (#3909496)
But now, Zack Wheeler has been extremely impressive since the trade over from the Giants, Matt Harvey has looked great in Binghamton, and Jeurys Familia is perhaps only a notch behind those two.


It has been fun to follow those guys the past few weeks. And Brandon Nimmo even broke his run of 7ks in 8 ABs with a home run the other night.
   13. Sam M. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3910042)
So, speaking of the Mets, Chris Capuano just tossed this little gem at the Braves tonight:

9 2 0 0 0 13

That is (I'm pretty sure) good for a game score of 96. None of Halladay, Lee, Kershaw, or Lincecum has a better performance in the National League this year. Surprisingly, in the AL, neither Weaver nor Verlander has as good or better, either -- Verlander struck out only 4 in the no-hitter. Same for CC and King Felix.

Really? I must have missed a few, right? There's something wrong if Chris Capuano just tossed the game of the year. Or hell, even if he just tossed one of the top two or three . . . .
   14. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:22 AM (#3910054)
Really? I must have missed a few, right? There's something wrong if Chris Capuano just tossed the game of the year. Or hell, even if he just tossed one of the top two or three . . .


According to Play Index, Verlander's 12-strikeout shutout on June 14 is tied with Ervin Santana's no-hitter at 94 for the best game score of the year.
   15. Sam M. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3910057)
Verlander's 12-strikeout shutout on June 14 is tied with Ervin Santana's no-hitter at 94 for the best game score of the year.


OK. All of the pitchers I mentioned in # 13 now have a mission for the rest of 2011: they have to top a 96. I mean, come on. Capuano? Even as a Mets' fan, I don't think that's right. You might be able to win a few bets knowing that, because really -- who's going to get that no matter how many guesses you give them? But that's not just right.
   16. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3910064)
Last year's best game score was by Brandon Morrow and the year before that was Jonathan Sanchez, and they both have the same career ERA+ as Capuano.

Anyway, as a Mets fan, you should embrace that.
   17. Sam M. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3910072)
I find that somehow depressing.

Or perhaps it's a trend we can use? Maybe we should be looking for the next guy with the career 98 ERA+ who is going to have his one moment in the sun sometime in 2012.

EDIT:

Niese (90) and Pelfrey (93) are, sadly, lagging far behind the pace they need to be setting here . . . .
   18. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:43 AM (#3910077)
Since 1919, the top 11 (3 games or more) in 96+ game scores are the people you would expect (Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Warren Spahn, Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens, Juan Marichal, Sandy Koufax, Walter Johnson, Pedro Martinez, and Bob Gibson) and Frank Tanana (Frank Tanana.)

Spahn had five of those games and went 2-3.
   19. Sam M. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:56 AM (#3910084)
# 18 -- That list is yet another of the many reflections of the decline of the complete game. You see only Clemens, Johnson, and Pedro on that list among pitchers whose careers started after 1975. Tanana was the only other one who started his major league career in the '70s, and he twice threw 20 or more CGs in a season. Most of those guys hit the perfect sweet spot: they were terrific pitchers, and they pitched in an era (the 60s and 70s) when they could pile up CGs in outstanding performances, with relatively low run totals. Great pitchers of the modern era are no less great, but they are less likely to accumulate game scores of 95 or more, because they just don't throw 9 inning complete games nearly as often. As you said, Verlander topped out at 94 this year.

Just call him Cy Capuano!
   20. The District Attorney Posted: August 27, 2011 at 03:06 AM (#3910088)
Interesting. Tanana certainly wasn't Pedro/Koufax even at his best, but it was a good run, and all three of the 96+ games are from that peak period (actually, they're from two years of it, 1975 and 1976). The last one is fun. Tanana has already thrown 277.3 IP (plus spring training) in the season. He has thrown 23 complete games. He has thrown 118.3 IP in his last 13 starts... in other words, more than a regulation complete game per start, every start, for the past two months. He is 23 years old. It's the final weekend of the season, and you're down 15 games in the standings. What could possibly go wrong here? Send the guy out to pitch 11 more innings (striking out 14).

I think we discussed this with Niese, but his peripherals are extremely solid -- 2.5 BB/9, 7.9 K/9, 52% GB. Assuming the .333 BABIP comes down, he should have no problems at all. (The weird thing is that it was .324 last year.)
   21. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: August 27, 2011 at 03:31 AM (#3910095)
You might be able to win a few bets knowing that, because really -- who's going to get that no matter how many guesses you give them? But that's not just right.


You: Hey, bet you can't guess who has the highest Game Score this season.
Guy at bar: What the #### is a game score? Go back to your mom's basement, you nerd.
   22. PreservedFish Posted: August 27, 2011 at 05:06 AM (#3910138)
Capuano has impressed me despite the 81 ERA+. Not that he has incredible stuff or anything, but he seems like a really solid pitcher. I was wondering how I have this impression of quality despite the bad results. Part of it is just that he's in good shape, a good athlete, and seems intelligent. Another part is that his FIP is a lot lower than his ERA. And tonight they showed a statistic: his ERA in innings 1-5 is something like 3.40, but in innings 6+ it was 11.00. I suppose that means that he quite frequently looks strong and then just loses it immediately before he gets the hook.

Anyway, I have hopes that he'll stick with the Mets for a few years and provide a steadying Steve Trachsel type of performance.
   23. Benji Posted: August 27, 2011 at 06:06 AM (#3910153)
Back to Matthews. He's a horrible announcer, he was overrated as a player and he's an #######. Wonder how Hernandez feels. He brings "Sarge" up all the time on Met games (when he's not fawning all over Rodent Victorino or doing that asinine 'you kids at home' crap) as some kind of star player / role model. I can't wait until the Phillies go back to the perennial stiff they were for 50 years.

P.S. Matthews once took credit for the "Fightin' Phils" appelation. Well, he must have been some prodigy because when MLB-TV did the show about Topps that was on the 1952 Phillies cards.
   24. Adam Starblind Posted: August 29, 2011 at 05:49 PM (#3911504)

Did he sing the Diarrhea Song afterward and then pull the hair of a girl he secretly likes?


Point taken, but come on - the Diarrhea Song is still funny.
   25. Lassus Posted: August 29, 2011 at 06:26 PM (#3911545)
and then pull the hair of a girl he secretly likes?

Does this actually ever happen? When I was in first grade, I simply avoided the girl I liked like the plague for fear I would get teased to death.
   26. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: August 29, 2011 at 06:32 PM (#3911553)
Capuano is from my home town! How did I not know that? His high school got wrecked in the recent tornado and will probably never open again. His xFIP is 3.70, which is pretty solid. He's only on a 1 year deal, right?
   27. Something Other Posted: August 29, 2011 at 08:01 PM (#3911649)
@25 No hair pulling, though a solid smack on the arm followed by running away was one of the customary rites of courtship. I myself memorized a poem in order to move up in the rankings. I was Elaine's Idonye's third favorite boyfriend in kindergarden (an achievement carrying no privileges I can recall) and wanted better, so I memorized a poem that included the lines "I want to be a big slob, just like my old man". I remember standing with my back to our classroom wall. Elaine, who knew what was what, put a hand against the wall on either side of my head and leaned in as I recited. I was stiff with terror, my soul stuffed in my throat. I think we drew a crowd because I can see leering in the background the almost featureless balloons that in memory stand in for faces. I also recall making no progress whatever with the lovely Elaine (a slender brunette with extravagant braids) despite this heroic effort. She pinched my heart for a long time after, for well over a decade, in fact, until the evening I was visiting my parents by train and on the long walk up the hill from the station to their barn of a house passed our crummy neighborhood bar and lo! through window and neon she stood, those features beneath a crown of hair. In I went, ordered a beer at the bar, and as the crowd moved and ebbed I was able to see her clearly. She had become a pleasantly pretty young woman, with nothing remarkable or entrancing about her posture or her manner. She seemed entirely comfortable in that shabby place, and the idea that I might approach her and speak and she would have no earthly idea who I was was far more painful than the prospect of a successful fleshy return with a woman whose current ordinary prettiness held none of the sting to which, at nineteen or so, I was drawn. And so I left, content enough. I never saw or even heard of her again.
   28. AJMcCringleberry Posted: August 29, 2011 at 08:32 PM (#3911687)
When I was in first grade, I simply avoided the girl I liked like the plague for fear I would get teased to death.

I do that now!
   29. Howie Menckel Posted: August 29, 2011 at 09:09 PM (#3911722)
I googled Elaine's name, no luck. Maybe she got married - or is so unremarkable that she's never so much as been listed in some charity group's press release thanking volunteers, or whatever. Or you made up the name, lol.

Now, if she googled her name and found this (not there yet, at least), it's a charming story overall - if not terribly flattering in some respects.

But sometimes I read stuff where people appear to be using real names from the past, and I wonder if they realize that could cause awkwardness if, say, a husband googled his wife's maiden name.

"Be careful out there!"

:)
   30. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: August 29, 2011 at 09:36 PM (#3911747)
   31. Something Other Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:22 AM (#3913041)
@29: Oops. You're right.

Well, I can hope that over the years as her memory faded so has my recollection of her name.

I wonder if they realize that could cause awkwardness if, say, a husband googled his wife's maiden name.
You dated this guy in kindergarden! And never told me about him?? You slut!!!

Although, if she claimed to have been sober during all of 1976 I may have caused problems.
   32. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 31, 2011 at 04:51 AM (#3913065)
Two great things about Frank Tanana: his career was better than Ron Guidry's, and his peak was also better than Guidry's (if "peak" is anything longer than one season).
Where's the Tanana-for-the-Hall contingent?
   33. Something Other Posted: August 31, 2011 at 07:03 AM (#3913088)
Tommy in CT! Paging Tommy in CT to the thread!

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