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Phillies’ Maikel Franco has fallen out of Gabe Kapler’s favor for second straight year

“I think when he is performing like Maikel Franco is capable of performing, he’s a lot better than that. And right now he is still trying to find his way and we’ll look for opportunities to give him an opportunity to get going. Right now we have other guys we are going to see ahead of him,” Kapler said. “The value is directly related to his performance. Maikel Franco has a tremendous amount of value playing to his potential. Right now he’s struggling to reach that potential.”

Jim Furtado Posted: June 21, 2019 at 09:10 PM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:40 PM (#5854894)
The K-rate is really good, the walk rate is fine ... he's just not hitting worth crap. That's either a major fluke or an injury. He's never been a good hitter but even his power peripherals are pretty much in line with his career -- this is strictly a singles slump, he's hitting 187 on GBs.
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: June 21, 2019 at 11:28 PM (#5854898)
his last 31 days, Franco's BA is .140 and his xBA is .252. he has a ridiculous 12 pct hit pct in that span and just 20 pct for the year.

he's a little bit off, and he's now chasing too many pitches - not surprising, given the circumstances. and yes, if he's injured then Kapler hasn't noticed.

I don't see "great player" in the numbers, so it's not that big a deal and the Phillies have other options.

but if Kapler (and therefore management) is basing his decisions solely on the back of a Topps baseball card stats, that's a scary sign for the franchise.

   3. stevegamer Posted: June 22, 2019 at 01:17 AM (#5854913)
Actually Kapler using the back of a Topps baseball card would likely be an improvement over his own thoughts.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: June 22, 2019 at 04:32 AM (#5854921)
#2 ... sure, no argument. He's never been much of a hitter and he's a below-average fielder ... and I suppose "when he's at his potential..." is kinder than "he's just not very good and we have other options (at least as long as Scott Kingery keeps putting up a 316 ISO ... WTF?)"

Maybe he recently discovered he wasn't the first Maikel in MLB. That would throw anybody off their game.
   5. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 22, 2019 at 11:46 AM (#5854945)
I think when he is performing like Maikel Franco is capable of performing, he’s a lot better than that.

Like all mediocre at best players, he has the occasional month when it looks like he finally put it together. Then he reverts to bail and whale and the normal Maikel resurfaces.

EDIT: I'd trade him for a bucket of batting practice balls or case of sunflower seeds at this point. The Phils have been pretty bad at drafting, developing players this decade. I'm starting to feel that it's all going to fall apart and 5 years from now they will be scuffling to stay under 100 losses. Sickels gives them 1 (#39) in the top 100 prospects. I don't think Matt Klentak knows what he is doing.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 22, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5854951)
Actually Kapler using the back of a Topps baseball card would likely be an improvement over his own thoughts.
As long as they’re looking for opportunities to give him an opportunity, I’m fine with it. Everyone deserves opportunities for an opportunity.
   7. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: June 22, 2019 at 12:46 PM (#5854956)
Looking at his BBRef page makes it clear that hitting in front of the pitcher is a good way to lead the Majors in IBB. He's hitting .206 but leads the majors with 13 intentional walks. I understand wanting to face the pitcher but when a guy is hitting like this I'd pitch to him and see if I could get two outs before turning the lineup over.
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: June 22, 2019 at 01:42 PM (#5854967)
when a guy is hitting like this I'd pitch to him and see if I could get two outs before turning the lineup over.


Since these are usually issued with two outs, then getting a weak-hitting NO. 8 hitter out and then getting to start off the next with a pitcher/non-starter has much more value than the difference between Franco and the pitcher.

   9. . Posted: June 22, 2019 at 01:44 PM (#5854969)
Kapler's a weird dude and I'd move on from him.

He's weird independent of this, but the tic whereby he thinks saying "Maikel Franco" multiple times close to each other instead of "Maikel" is clearly one that he thinks makes him sound smart or decisive or a leader or whatever. That kind of thing annoys pretty annoyingly.
   10. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 22, 2019 at 09:09 PM (#5855076)
Since these are usually issued with two outs, then getting a weak-hitting NO. 8 hitter out and then getting to start off the next with a pitcher/non-starter has much more value than the difference between Franco and the pitcher.


If you happen to hit his bat right, Franco will blast it out of the park, which does have some TEH FEAR inducement to decide on a walk.
   11. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: June 22, 2019 at 10:26 PM (#5855105)
67 OPS+, despite a league-leading 13 IBB.

Of course he has fallen out of favor.
   12. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: June 24, 2019 at 12:53 AM (#5855273)
if you dig into franco's gamelog on b-ref:

franco had an OPS over .900 on april 27th. 8 of his 13 IBBs happened before that date.

since april 28th, franco has hit .156/.206/.252, with 7 XBHs, 4 GIDPs, 21 Ks and 3 non-IBBs in 136 PAs.


EDIT: I'd trade him for a bucket of batting practice balls or case of sunflower seeds at this point. The Phils have been pretty bad at drafting, developing players this decade. I'm starting to feel that it's all going to fall apart and 5 years from now they will be scuffling to stay under 100 losses. Sickels gives them 1 (#39) in the top 100 prospects. I don't think Matt Klentak knows what he is doing.

i think klentak has been fine.
his player acquisition is okay.
his drafting is okay.
players just turn to #### when they get here.

to be clear, that's on him, too, but it's just comical at this point. when someone gets here, they play like ####; when they leave, they rebound.
santana last year (w/PHI): .229/.352/.416 (105 OPS+)
santana this year: .292/.415/.532 (148 OPS+)

realmuto last year: .277/.340/.484 (130 OPS+)
realmuto this year (w/PHI): .261/.318/.428 (92 OPS+)

segura last year: .304/.341/.415 (111 OPS+)
segura this year (w/PHI): .269/.318/.433 (93 OPS+)


pitching arms get ruined:
charlie morton (2016) -- 4 starts and done
clay buchholz (2017) -- 2 starts and done

the bullpen has gone to #### this year. dominguez, robertson, neshek and hunter were supposed to be the stoppers, but instead, they've pitched 50 combined innings with a 4.50 ERA.


and that's before even approaching the issues they've had with player development.


if i was klentak, i'd fire kapler tonight, send a blank check to mike scioscia, and have him finish the season as manager. at least then i'd know i have a professional looking at this situation with fresh eyes. something is very wrong here and kapler does not have the answer. to me, that means he has to go. also, he's a complete ####### nutter.



but back to franco...his days are already numbered. the phillies drafted alec bohm last year, and unlike every other recent top 10 pick they've made, this guy actually seems like he's too good to get ###### up. he's already in AA, and there's an outside chance that he'll be the phillies everyday 3B before september callups.
   13. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 24, 2019 at 11:11 AM (#5855320)
Oh wow—this headline was a shocker!

I had been following Franco a bit, and knew he’d gotten off to an incredible start. For various reasons the Phillies fell off my radar, so I just assumed he was still having a great year—he was just a late bloomer.

But—no!!!

Maikel Franco through April 28th: .271/.360/.542, 7 homers, 5 doubles.
Maikel Franco since April 28th: .155/.204/.240
   14. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: June 24, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5855338)
[13]: well, i guess that's one person who has me on ignore.
   15. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 24, 2019 at 12:40 PM (#5855343)
14- I have everyone in ignore, I use this site as a personal diary.

Also, my bad.
   16. Bote Man Posted: June 24, 2019 at 03:12 PM (#5855425)
to be clear, that's on him, too, but it's just comical at this point. when someone gets here, they play like sh|t; when they leave, they rebound.

Now do Harper!
   17. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 24, 2019 at 10:12 PM (#5855560)
santana last year (w/PHI): .229/.352/.416 (105 OPS+)
santana this year: .292/.415/.532 (148 OPS+)

realmuto last year: .277/.340/.484 (130 OPS+)
realmuto this year (w/PHI): .261/.318/.428 (92 OPS+)

segura last year: .304/.341/.415 (111 OPS+)
segura this year (w/PHI): .269/.318/.433 (93 OPS+)


J. P. Crawford w/ Phils: ..214/.333/.358 85 OPS+
J. P. Crawford w/ Seattle: .300/.377/.450 126 OPS+

That he has only 114 PAs this year is not important, of course. ;)
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 24, 2019 at 10:43 PM (#5855563)
Wrong thread.

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