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1. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: December 07, 2009 at 05:18 PM (#3405542)That was my thought too but geez, I realize Castillo ain't great but he still gets on at a pretty good clip, he's a useful player. That trade makes the pretty big assumption that last year was a one time only thing by Burrell and not the beginning of the end.
He's only signed for one more year; not too much risk really.
Performance-wise, that makes all sorts of sense for the Rays. But is Milton Bradley really the best role model you want to bring in to mentor B.J. Upton?
Tatis.
2010 and 2011, at about $6M a season.
He'll still only be 25 and his erratic performance and occasional benchings for lack of hustle suggest to me that he's still got some growing up to do. But I live in Chicago, watch the Rays less than 3 times a year, and am pretty much just talking out of my ass here. Mostly, I'd kind of gotten the impression that the Rays were an organization that looked for "character" - Floyd got a lot of credit as a "clubhouse leader" a couple of years ago, they traded away Dukes and Young. This move just surprises me, but, as I said, I don't follow the Rays much and in terms of baseball performance it makes a lot of sense for them.
The rumor is that the Cubs are thisclose to landing Mike Cameron to play CF -- only awaiting the outlay damage of moving Milton to pull the trigger.
All things considered, I think I'd rather have Castillo at 2B, Cameron in CF, Fukudome in RF than I would Fukudome in CF, Burrell in RF (ugh!), and Fontenbaker at 2B.
Starlin Castro shouldn't be playing with the big club next year, and I'm fine with him easing in to the tune of 200 PAs or so in 2011.
Castillo's defense may blow, but he can still get on base.
Castillo is owed $12 million, evenly split in 2010 and 2011. Burrell is owed $9 million in 2010.
If this move allows the Cubs to pick up an OF who can hit, this may be preferable.
EDIT: I thought Burrell was cheaper than that so Castillo seems less bad in comparison.
His defense blew in 2009, but prior to that he was okay. Was his poor showing in 2009 a permanent effect of his injuries, or something else, or will he bounce back? I don't trust one year of defensive stats.
Then it's definitely true!
thanks Tim.
That's an awfully old team, though -- 2011 would be pretty damn ugly... 5 regulars age 34 or older (Lee - assuming he's resigned; Fukudome, Cameron, Castillo, Soriano), another 2 that are on the wrong side of 30 (Theriot, A-Ram).
I would expect Hendry is hoping to get 1984-esque swan songs from a number of veterans and thinks he can add a pitcher in-season.
Happy about this as a Met fan, although I have no clue who's gonna play 2B, but we needed a bat in either LF/1B and I do think Burrell can be that (although Lord knows he wasn't last year.)
Who plays second? Hudson's a FA, right?
Posted at 11:51 am:
There is a report online, from a questionable source, suggesting the Mets were part of a three-way trade this morning.
However, no other outlet is reporting such a transaction; and I, and others, see no evidence yet that such a deal was agreed upon.
#Mets officials say nothing up with Burrell.
The salary blackhole plays LF, and it's so enormous and engulfing that no other contractual complaints can escape its suckitational pull.
Which is probably what they ought to be doing, under the circumstances. 2011-12 looks to be pretty ugly regardless of what else happens.
Ben Shpigel
Despite Philadelphia-area report, Pat Burrell IS NOT a Met. Totally bogus, says one team official.
Tim,
How on earth do you have time to post on bbtf during the winter meetings?! I imagine you in your bunker with a Mountain Dew iv drip and a standing order for pizzas to be delivered every five hours.
Not if he can become an only midly below average 1B.
If Burrell can get back to being a +20 bat, he can give up ~20 R's on defense/positional adjustment and still be a +2.0 WAR player. 1B is a -12.5 positional.
I'd rather take the chance on Delgado who was good while healthy in 2009 than on Burrell rebounding offensively and being adequate at a position he hasn't played since 2000.
Well, the problem with Bradley is not that he's lazy or undisciplined in his approach. It's that he's mad as a hatter. I don't know if insanity rubs off on people in quite that way.
I do not want him in a house
I do not want him with a mouse
I do not want him on a chair
I do not want him anywhere.
Just wondering, do we know the way we rank positional defense is right? Is 1st base really that much worse off than left field?
It's only 5 runs different, -7.5 vs. -12.5. I think Tango has written something on how he does it; basically how players that move/split time between positions do.
I would not take him for a Geo
I would not take him for Castillo
I do not want to give him a whirl
I do not like this Pat Burrell!
My last year of playing strat-o-matic was the 2007 card set. I had Pat the Bat on my team. About half way through the season I moved him from LF (which was his only position) to firstbase. Sure he had to have the worst 1b Defense possible, but it took his awful D out of left and allowed me to put a better player in Of (I believe it was Hunter Pence). I was getting killed with Burrell-Hawpe as my corner OFs
That's some sorrowful corner OFing.
On a related note, MLB had a 1984 Cards/Cubs game on yesterday. I stopped by long enough to see Willie McGee triple on a looper to RF -- being manned by Keith Moreland. It was funny to watch Moreland try to run to the corner. Somehow McGee only got a triple.
EDIT: Newsday's Ken Davidoff tweets:Even better.
If it's THE game, he needed it for the cycle.
pound signs are easier to implement for users working from, say, phones, however.
Characters are the outs of twitter!
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