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Sunday, September 05, 2010
Are you just going to ignore the 210 lb Giant squatting in America’s living room?
The steroid era is beginning to close—although how can we ever be 100 percent sure—and those famously associated are aging and rapidly mutating into irrelevance. Those who are actually clean—Derek Jeter is 36, Chipper Jones is 38 and after tearing his ACL looks to have played his last inning, and Ken Griffey Jr. already retired, at the age of 40, in June—won’t be around with hard hats and shovels to help in the rebuilding process.
Posey comes into the league at a time when you’d have to be clinically insane to stick HGH, or whatever undetectable cosmetic drug is now new on the market, in your body. The top shelf prospects coming up from this year forward won’t face the same level of scrutiny as the generation before them. The likes of Joe Mauer and Dustin Pedroia should crawl from the rubble unscathed, but they’re in a very small minority. The sport is just beginning to emerge from an incredibly scandalous and damaging decade; players like Posey are exactly what the sport needs—the talented, young, and undoubtedly clean talents.
In a game that values the statistic, these guys are giving MLB executives all the more reason to market them as the new face of the league. They should be in commercials and made household names as quickly as possible. They’re performing on the field, now they need to be in America’s living room.
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1. bobm Posted: September 05, 2010 at 01:06 PM (#3633774)Putting Posey aside, why would a generic player have to be "clinically insane" to use an "undetectable" PED? What's the risk?
Again, putting Posey aside, how can one say that these talents are "undoubtedly clean" if there are "undetectable" PEDs available to stick in one's body?
Because what's "undetectable" today may not be "undetectable" tomorrow, and sometimes ballplayers are known to be a little slow on catching up with the news. I'm sure that plenty of players who've tested positive in the past few years thought that they'd never get caught, either.
Again, putting Posey aside, how can one say that these talents are "undoubtedly clean" if there are "undetectable" PEDs available to stick in one's body?
We can't, but we can refrain from assuming otherwise until those "undetectable PEDs have actually been detected, while leaving the "undoubtedly"s to the sportswriters.
He is because his performance has clearly not been enhanced in any way.
We know Randy Johnson used no enhancements. If he were the type to resort to chemical aids, he would have used some concealer on his mug, at the very least Oil of Olay.
Sportswriters have innate abilities not possessed by ordinary humans. Also, they have a better opportunity to check out whether players have back acne.
I'm aware of a few attempts to gauge the effect of drug usage on performance using statanalysis, but generally unconvinced by them - either way. There's so much noise in performance data that confidence intervals tend to be wide, so identifying whether someone's numbers have been improved - or not improved - by drugs is hard; maybe number crunching isn't the way to do it.
In any case, if there are some studies you think deserve more credence, could you highlight them? Thanks!
Another PED-related thing I wonder about is whether testing can detect use in the off-season among the guys who might go offshore to get their supplies. Some people I know who have gone to winter ball in various countries have suggested that there's some stuff readily available - though its efficacy can be disputed.
What are the regs on this? I think MLB can test players in the off-season in the U.S. - what about elsewhere? What about minor leaguers?
And in the meantime they make millions and when they finally get caught they only have to serve a 50 game suspension.
I'm pretty sure Gary Maddox was clean.
I would imagine that a fair amount of this speculation is actually based on off the record conversations with the players' in question teammates. I would imagine that the writers ask guys in the clubhouse, on the condition of not writing a column about it, if one guy or another guy is clean.
If it's really just BS, then that's just terrible reporting, and of course, also an option.
So close.
But what about Garry Maddox?
(Live by the misspelling, die by the misspelling.)
You know what baseball needs to jolt some life into it? It needs Big Mac and Slammin Sammy to find some truly undetectable super PEDs so they can come back next year and battle all season to see who is first to 80 homers. Baseball was rarely ever better or more interesting during that era, and for shame all those sportswriters trying to pretend it wasn't. A pox on those trying to exile that eras heros merely because they tried too hard to win, while they remain silent over a Hall of Fame being filled with a rogues gallery of spitball throwers, corked bat users, sign stealers, racists, and amphetamine poppers.
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