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Pinstripe Pundits: What if the Yankees Sign Nobody?

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We know the Yankees’ situation by now. After letting Nick Swisher, Russell Martin, Ichiro (still could be back), and Eric Chavez walk, the Yankees have yet to make any moves to replace their production this offseason. Their only move during the winter meetings was announcing that A-Rod would need hip surgery.

It’s still very early in the offseason, but based on what we’ve seen, Brian Cashman has been unwilling (or unable?) to pay for players to fill the obvious voids on the roster. So what would happen if they continued to exercise extreme frugality and didn’t bring in anybody to fill the holes? How would the team look if they went entirely with what they have at the moment? Here’s a look at what the batting order might look like:

SS/DH Derek Jeter
LF       Curtis Granderson
1B       Mark Teixeira
2B       Robinson Cano
RF       Chris Dickerson
SS/DH Eduardo Nunez
CF       Brett Gardner
C         Chris Stewart
3B       David Adams

According to Baseballmusings.com’s lineup tool, this lineup would score 4.609 runs per game. You can click on these blue words to see all of the theoretical best and worst lineups according to the tool. The OBP and SLG numbers are from ZiPS. Believe it or not, this offense wouldn’t be all that bad; only 7 teams scored more than 4.6 runs per game last season—including the Yankees with 4.96. There will obviously be injuries though and the team currently has little major league talent to serve as depth, especially in the outfield. Otherwise though, the Yankees’ offense is still a force despite having some weak links.

Repoz Posted: December 09, 2012 at 05:34 PM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 09, 2012 at 06:23 PM (#4320394)
Wow, we've come a long way in 10 years: Yankee signing speculation, 2003
   2. SG Posted: December 09, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4320395)
Seems simple enough. Get 162 games out of every single player in the starting lineup and the team will be fine.
   3. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 09, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4320405)
I would expect notable moves by the Yankees to occur later in the offseason. Right now most players are looking for big money in multi-year contracts, you can bet they'll be in on players more once the market settles down and free agents are more willing to accept one-year deals.
   4. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4320418)
WTF is Chris Dickerson?
   5. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4320420)
Wow, we've come a long way in 10 years: Yankee signing speculation, 2003


Indeed.

"Mr. Wilhelm, I think I've found a way to sign Reed Johnson and Geovany Soto, and it wouldn't cost that much."
   6. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4320434)
[4] from memory, former toolsy/fast Reds semi-prospect buried by Dusty and then, I think, traded to the Yankees for a something negligible early in the 2011 season.
   7. TerpNats Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:10 PM (#4320447)
That should still be a capable lineup, and the Yankees should be an AL East contender. But if getting under the limit for 2014 will pay off in 2015 and thereafter, the short-term pain for long-term gain makes perfect sense. Were Mike Rizzo the Yankees' GM instead of Brian Cashman, he would do the same thing.
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:21 PM (#4320452)
You know who David Adams is, but not Chris Dickerson?

David Adams is apparently the team's 2008 third-round pick and has a very good OBP in 125 games with Trenton.

Chris Dickerson has played in 258 MLB games. Apparently what the Yankees traded for him was a soon-to-retire Sergio Mitre. This was after the Reds mysteriously traded him for a soon-to-retire Jim Edmonds.
   9. Dan Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4320464)
The Yankees will almost assuredly bring back Ichiro and Ibañez for RF and DH, and they already have an offer out to Youkilis. Pierzynski is too perfect of a fit not to happen as well, i suspect. I expect a lineup more like this:

RF Ichiro
SS Jeter
2B Cano
1B Teixeira
LF Granderson
3B Youkilis
DH Ibañez
C Pierzynski
CF Gardner
   10. Bruce Markusen Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:09 PM (#4320470)
Right now the Yankees' front office looks completely dysfunctional. The owners are unwilling to use the one major advantage they've always had--money--to improve the team. The general manager looks dazed and confused, stunted by the owners and without a creative plan to improve the team. I know it's early in the off season, but right now the Yankees are re-living the winter of 1992.
   11. McCoy Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4320474)
What if Yankees was spelled D-O-D-G-E-R-S?
   12. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:19 PM (#4320477)
9- Sounds as if the Indians are about to sign Reynolds, so I'm guessing Youkilis does land in the Bronx.

Right now the Yankees' front office looks completely dysfunctional. The owners are unwilling to use the one major advantage they've always had--money--to improve the team. The general manager looks dazed and confused, stunted by the owners and without a creative plan to improve the team. I know it's early in the off season, but right now the Yankees are re-living the winter of 1992.


I'm going to wait and see. They've lost Martin and Chavez this off-season. Maybe that says something definitive about the plan or lack of one or maybe it says nothing.
   13. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4320479)
THE Chris Dickerson???
   14. Cowboy Popup Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4320481)
RF Ichiro
SS Jeter
2B Cano
1B Teixeira
LF Granderson
3B Youkilis
DH Ibañez
C Pierzynski
CF Gardner


That lineup would hit ~.180 against lefties.
   15. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:36 PM (#4320482)
If the Yankees signed Youkilis and Pierzynski, my son would probably become a White Sox fan. Better to root for the team that let those guys walk than to root for those guys. Personally, I'd never consider anything that drastic, but I probably wouldn't bother to re-up my MLB.TV subscription.
   16. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: December 09, 2012 at 09:45 PM (#4320486)
THE Chris Dickerson???


C0ck of the walk baby!
   17. Bruce Markusen Posted: December 09, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4320498)
The Yankees may have moved a step closer to signing Youkilis. The Indians have signed Mark Reynolds to play first base, with Lonnie Chisenhall playing third base. So unless there's another "mystery" team out there, Youkilis could be headed to NY.
   18. puck Posted: December 09, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4320514)
THE Chris Dickerson???

Yes, Yankees strength coach and supplements advisor.
   19. valuearbitrageur Posted: December 09, 2012 at 11:48 PM (#4320580)
I would expect notable moves by the Yankees to occur later in the offseason. Right now most players are looking for big money in multi-year contracts, you can bet they'll be in on players more once the market settles down and free agents are more willing to accept one-year deals.


Their starting third baseman is losing a half season to surgery and they neglect to even offer his backup $3M, one of the few in a market almost devoid of capable replacements. I think that says more about the Yankees willingness and ability to do deals this off-season than anything else.
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: December 10, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4320597)
I think the ###### will still somehow throw 150 innings of 105 ERA+, picking up 12 wins and helping the club win the goddamned AL East again before turning back into a pumpkin next season. That's what always seems to happen when the Yankees sign Nobody.

   21. JE (Jason) Posted: December 10, 2012 at 12:46 AM (#4320609)
Is the Granderson-Gardner switch merely the author's hope or based on something said by Cashman?
   22. Dan Posted: December 10, 2012 at 02:44 AM (#4320688)
Is the Granderson-Gardner switch merely the author's hope or based on something said by Cashman?


It was mentioned as a possibility by either Cashman or Girardi after the season, I don't recall which. I also expect it to happen.
   23. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: December 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM (#4320871)
SS/DH Derek Jeter
SS/DH Eduardo Nunez
He's proposing that Eduardo Nunez be used as the DH when Jeter is in the field?
   24. Bug Selig Posted: December 10, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4321237)
He's proposing that Eduardo Nunez be used as the DH when Jeter is in the field?


Yup. Both times.
   25. scottm Posted: December 10, 2012 at 10:53 PM (#4321442)
Ronnier Mustelier? Age 27, but only because he arrived from Cuba at 26; in two minor-league yrs, 324/378/497, and he didn't really trail off in 89 games at AAA (303/359/455). Only 26 of his games were at 3B, but as a hitter he looks more major-league ready than Adams; so why isn't he the frontrunner for the job?

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