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Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Pirates close to signing Eric Hinske

The Pirates, mostly quiet this off-season, are closing in on a one-year contract with free-agent infielder/outfielder Eric Hinske, according to a major-league source. An agreement could be reached as soon as Wednesday, the source said. The deal would pay Hinske between $1 million and $2 million guaranteed, plus incentives.

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   1. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:35 AM (#3062071)
I have no idea how you'd measure this, but Hinske has over 900 games in the AL East, despite playing on three different teams. I wonder who has the (3-divison) record for that.
   2. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:53 AM (#3062076)
Steve Finley comes to mind (NL West).


EDIT: Finley played 1648 games for all NL West teams:
- ARZ: 849
- COL: 43
- LAN: 58
- SDN: 602
- SFN: 139
   3. Greg K Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:08 AM (#3062078)
If you want to be nit-picky about it Finley spent 1991-1993 in the NL West as well with the Astros
   4. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:11 AM (#3062080)
Well the original poster specified just the three division era.
   5. villageidiom Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:12 AM (#3062081)
I have no idea how you'd measure this, but Hinske has over 900 games in the AL East, despite playing on three different teams. I wonder who has the (3-divison) record for that.
Granted, much of it wasn't during the 3-division era, but Rickey Henderson played 1828 games for Oakland, Seattle, and Anaheim.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:14 AM (#3062082)
Well if you want to be real nit-picky, he asked for the 3-division record.

And if you want to be downright the nit-pickingest nit-picker what ever lived, you'd note he asked for the "(3-division) record" whatever that is.

Or if you're Shooty, you're still giggling about fat chicks.
   7. Greg K Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:26 AM (#3062085)
Don't you realize that if you force me to actually fully read every comment I make a snooty comment about the terrorists win?

In all seriousness, my apologies for the tone
I just found it interesting that even at the beginning of his career he couldn't escape the West (aside from 89-90 and 94)
   8. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:27 AM (#3062087)
I wonder who has the (3-divison) record for that.


Since you didn't specify the guys had to play for more than one team, I'd guess that the most games played in a single division in the three-division era still belongs to Biggio with 2052, though Chipper, Jeter (and potentially Garrett Anderson, if he signs with an AL West club) would pass him this year.

I don't think that's what RB had in mind though.
   9. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:37 AM (#3062090)
I guess he's better than Mientkiewicz. But much more boring.
   10. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:42 AM (#3062091)
I read the challenge as most games in the 3-division era with 3 or more teams. And we're essentially just talking about position players.
   11. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:52 AM (#3062093)
This is the dullest thread I've ever read. More snark, please!
   12. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:57 AM (#3062095)
First thing to come to my mind is, "Does this mean Andy LaRoche can expect to spend lots of time on the bench or in Indianapolis?"
   13. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:03 AM (#3062096)
I don't think that the Pirates are signing Hinske to play 3B, but rather figure into their LF/RF plans. And he'll be a major upgrade for them there. As last week's ZIPS shows, they don't have any MLB-quality corner outfielders (assuming Doumit plays catcher and McLouth stays in center).
   14. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:07 AM (#3062097)
JZ, you have to pick one theory or the other. Is Andy LaRoche the new young mediocrity who will be guaranteed a starting job not despite, but because of, his incredibly low ceiling? Or is he the new young martyr whose career will be destroyed intentionally so the team can play mediocre veterans? One or the other. Freddy Sanchez or Craig Wilson? He can't be both both.
   15. Al Kaline Trio Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:13 AM (#3062099)
The final piece!
   16. Tripon Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:46 AM (#3062103)
Pirates had to know about the wrist problem with Andy LaRoche, and they traded for him anyway?
   17. Babe Adams Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:48 AM (#3062105)
He stunk in '07. He stunk in the second half of '08.
   18. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:53 AM (#3062106)
At the time I figured they were betting on LaRoche to be the team's next star in the Kendall-Giles-Bay line. Now, I really have no idea. That's what makes me curious what they do with him.

It may be that they've stopped losing on purpose and have moved on to merely being another cheap team. Or it's POSSIBLE... well, don't go around telling people I'm admitting this but it's possible that maybe Littlefield was really that spectacularly terrible at everything.

...but I doubt it.
   19. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:22 AM (#3062113)
Fair points.
   20. Walt Davis Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM (#3062120)
In all seriousness, my apologies for the tone

I didn't have a problem with the tone myself. :-)
   21. Marcel Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM (#3062122)
He stunk in '07. He stunk in the second half of '08.

Hinske? If by stunk you mean was incredibly unlucky, then yes. He stunk in 07. Looking closer however, reveals a 13% BB rate and a .194 Isolated Slugging%. His overall numbers were depressed by a very low BABiP which was supported by a 10% LD rate. There is no way that his true talent level was really that low though and, sure enough, he regressed to a 19% LD rate in '08.

As for '08, it's true he did most of his damage in April and June. But are you really going to complain about getting a 107 OPS+ out of your fourth outfielder? I think most teams would be more than willing to take that, especially when it's attached to a guy that can play all four corner positions without embarassing himself.
   22. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 01:36 PM (#3062130)
I guess I was aiming for someone who has spent a bunch of time in one division, but with multiple teams. Obviously Jeter (1985 games) has played a lot more than Hinske, but that's because he's great. I just found it interesting that you had a journeyman player who has bounced around within a division while (before this move) never leaving it. I had no idea it would launch such discussion.

Eyeballing it, I would guess Hinske does, in fact, hold the record. Which isn't saying much.
   23. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: January 28, 2009 at 01:49 PM (#3062132)
Scott Spiezio played in 1073 games from 1996-2005 for Oakland, Anaheim, and Seattle, but he never got to Texas.
   24. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:15 PM (#3062178)
Bruce Chen hit four NL East teams in three years at the start of his career.
   25. RJ in TO Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:22 PM (#3062187)
I guess I was aiming for someone who has spent a bunch of time in one division, but with multiple teams.


For pitchers, David Wells just missed a complete of the AL East - he made it to Toronto, Baltimore, New York, Toronto again, New York again, and Boston. Granted, he also spent some time outside of the AL East.
   26. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:26 PM (#3062196)
Mark McLemore spent all but four seasons of his career playing for all four AL West teams.
   27. Famous Original Joe C Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:37 PM (#3062210)
This is the dullest thread I've ever read. More snark, please!

What is there to say? It's all so predictable at this point.
   28. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:38 PM (#3062211)
Here's a quick formula: DivGames = g(first team) + 2 * g(second team) + 3*g(third team) +...

According to this formula, Finley checks in at 2917 NL West DG. Hinske has 1266. Hinske's DG/G (the rate stat!) is 1.40 (Finley is 1.13 thanks to his out-of-division dalliance.)

If you revisionist-history McLemore, he appears to have:

272 for ANA (nee CAL), 635 for TEX, 466 for SEA, 77 for OAK, for a total of 2691 DG, or 1.47 DG/G

Spiezio has 359 OAK, 573 ANA, 141 SEA = 1714 DG or 1.35 DG/G.

Of course, a player who has played his entire career for two teams in the same division, equally split, would grade out at 1.50. Who is such a player?
   29. Mike Green Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:49 PM (#3062224)
"Bruce Chen hit four NL East teams in three years at the start of his career."

I had no idea his control was that bad.
   30. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:50 PM (#3062226)
Of course, a player who has played his entire career for two teams in the same division, equally split, would grade out at 1.50. Who is such a player?
Different standards for pitchers, of course, but Mussina has 288 games for Baltimore and 249 for the Yankees. So that's 1.46.

His one-time teammate Jimmy Key has 59 with Baltimore, 94 with the Yankees and 317 with Toronto. So that makes him a 1.45, which is still pretty good.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:50 PM (#3062227)
These type of meaningless stat thought exercises (even an off the cuff type of one) is one of the reasons I love this place. I mean playing time in one division is not really important but it can be a fun exercise (and it's got me rooting for Finley to win the formula-post 28- for some weird reason--the Houston in the west is probably why)
   32. RJ in TO Posted: January 28, 2009 at 03:52 PM (#3062231)
Bruce Chen hit four NL East teams in three years at the start of his career.


He was also signed by three AL East teams, although he never played in the majors for Toronto.
   33. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: January 28, 2009 at 04:49 PM (#3062289)
You could apply the same formula for games played for all teams to find the most peripatetic, long-lived player out there.

Roberto Alomar seems to be a reasonable first guess:

TOR 703
CLE 471
SDP 448
BAL 412
NYM 222
CHW 85
ARI 38
Total 6523

Rickey! is close:
OAK 1705
NYY 596
SDP 358
NYM 152
SEA 92
BOS 72
TOR 44
ANA 32
LAD 30
Total 6305
   34. villageidiom Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:05 PM (#3062299)
You could apply the same formula for games played for all teams to find the most peripatetic, long-lived player out there.
Should you lump a player's second tour of duty with a team together with his first in that formula? If not, Rickey's numbers get comically large.
   35. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:05 PM (#3062300)
My thought was Reggie Jackson:

KCA/OAK: 1207
NYY: 792
CAL: 687
BAL: 134
Total: 5388

Dave Winfield:
NYY: 1182
SD: 1116
CAL: 270
MIN: 220
TOR: 156
CLE: 46
Total: 6160
   36. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:05 PM (#3062301)
How about Rusty Staub at 6872 (NYM 942, HOU 833, DET 549, MTL 518, TEX 109).
Admission: I totally didn't remember that Staub was ever a Tiger or Ranger.
   37. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:05 PM (#3062302)
Gary Sheffield:

FLA 558
LAD 526
NYY 347
MIL 294
ATL 290
DET 247
SDP 214
Total 8257

Tough to beat someone who has 200 or more games for 7 different teams.
   38. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:06 PM (#3062304)
How 'bout Gary Sheffield? Don't have time to actually tab it up, but he came to mind.

And Eric J was tabbing it up as I was thinking about it. I lose.

Sheffield quite probably holds the record in this particular junk stat. Julio Franco comes to mind... also Bobby Bonilla. Andres Galarraga looks like he should have a fairly impressive number.
   39. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:13 PM (#3062311)
Reggie Sanders played full seasons for a lot of different teams, but doesn't quite have the longevity:

CIN 805
STL 228
SFG 140
SDP 133
PIT 130
ARI 126
KCR 112
ATL 103
Total 5227

Sheffield's life story looks unbeatable.
   40. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:20 PM (#3062319)
Finley himself does quite well actually:

ARZ: 849
SDN: 602
HOU: 557
BAL: 223
SFN: 139
LAA: 112
LAN: 58
COL: 43

Total 6733
   41. flournoy Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:26 PM (#3062323)
Has any player played in all six divisions?
   42. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:30 PM (#3062330)
Considering Sheffield is still active, and currently playing for his #6 team to this point... if he plays 101 games next year, he'll pick up nearly 500 points and be over 2000 ahead of Finley, who I think is a good bet to have the second-highest score. Sheff's ratio of (whatever we're calling this) to games is about 10:3, which is pretty impressive.
   43. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:32 PM (#3062331)
Mike Myers?

EDIT: Yes, but only because of a 2-game cameo with FLA in 1996.
   44. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:33 PM (#3062333)
Rickey missed the AL Central... there's still time, though, right?

Carl Everett got five out of six, missed the NL West...

Jesse Orosco missed the AL West...

Can't think of anyone.

EDIT: Wow, good job.
   45. flournoy Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:39 PM (#3062341)
As the divisions are currently aligned, Mike Morgan missed the NL East, though he played for the Cubs when they were in the East.

Todd Zeile missed the AL Central.

Terry Mulholland touched 'em all.
   46. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:39 PM (#3062342)
Royce Clayton.

NLW: SFG, COL, ARI
NLC: STL, MIL, CIN
NLE: WAS
ALW: TEX
ALC: CWS
ALE: TOR, BOS

Didn't finish until the last year of his career. He also has a weighted games (or whatever) total of 7605.
   47. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:42 PM (#3062349)
Kenny Lofton has also played in every division - NYY, CLE/CWS, TEX, PHI, HOU/PIT/CHC, SFG/LAD. His weighted games total would be a lot more impressive if he hadn't had 3 stints in Cleveland, but it's still a fairly-impressive 5661.
   48. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:47 PM (#3062352)
Jose Mesa and Dan Miceli, too. My guess is there are several middle-relief types who've done it.
   49. flournoy Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:48 PM (#3062353)
Yeah, with six (seven if Morgan counts) guys already named, I guess it's not that noteworthy. But cool nonetheless.
   50. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:50 PM (#3062356)
Ron Villone managed it in a completely nondescript career of 654 games, which is pretty damn impressive.
   51. flournoy Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:52 PM (#3062357)
Wow, Ron Villone is still active. I'd have guessed that he retired about four years ago.
   52. Lassus Posted: January 28, 2009 at 05:57 PM (#3062364)
If you had asked me "Who played more games, Roberto Alomar or Rickey Henderson", I never really would have thought Roberto would win, let alone by over 200 games.

Wait, Sheffield has them both by 2000? Weird. I guess I had the entirely incorrect impression that Rickey would be among the leaders in games played.
   53. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:02 PM (#3062371)

Jesse Orosco missed the AL West...


Yea, but he got the Federal League and the Union League.
   54. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:03 PM (#3062372)
Wait, Sheffield has them both by 2000? Weird. I guess I had the entirely incorrect impression that Rickey would be among the leaders in games played.
It's not games played, it's games played by team, with a multiplier to give credit for more than one team. See #28
   55. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:05 PM (#3062378)
I think if you look at a bunch of numbers and conclude that Gary Sheffield has played the equivalent of 12 more seasons than Rickey Henderson, you're reading something wrong.
   56. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:11 PM (#3062384)
I think if you look at a bunch of numbers and conclude that Gary Sheffield has played the equivalent of 12 more seasons than Rickey Henderson, you're reading something wrong.

Also, if you conclude that Sheffield has played 50 full seasons.
   57. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:50 PM (#3062450)
Oh, and I like the Hinske signing, if the reported terms are correct.
   58. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:53 PM (#3062453)
OK... so which hitters have played in all 6 divisions?

We've named Royce Clayton and Kenny Lofton. After that... let's see...

Found another... Gregg Zaun! (15 games with the Rockies in '03). That may be it.
   59. RJ in TO Posted: January 28, 2009 at 06:54 PM (#3062457)
At $1M for a guy who can play (or at least stand) at all four corners, and is a decent bet to hit at around or a bit better than league average, it's hard not to like that deal.
   60. flournoy Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:13 PM (#3062484)
If Paul Bako signs with an AL West team, he'll have played in all six divisions.
   61. Bad Doctor Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:45 PM (#3062550)
If, as long rumored, the NL West absorbs Japan's Central League, Matt Stairs is in.
   62. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:46 PM (#3062551)
And if the Mike Cameron to the Yankees trade falls through, he'll have it too; he'd get bonus points in that I (would) distinctly remember him playing for all six divisions. No cups of coffee!

EDIT: Jose Guillen has done it too. He apparently played on the '02 Diamondbacks.
   63. Bad Doctor Posted: January 28, 2009 at 07:59 PM (#3062566)
Hey, found another hitter -- this guy is 32 and has already played in each of the six divisions. And to go full circle, he's only one team short of hitting all of the teams in an entire division! Name that vagabond!

EDIT: Oh crap, that's what I get for not refreshing. Jose Guillen/Rangers.
   64. Super Creepy Derek Lowe (GGC) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:01 PM (#3062569)
If, as long rumored, the NL West absorbs Japan's Central League

?!
   65. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:16 PM (#3062583)
I found a guy with six divisions. He's played for the Rangers, A's, White Sox, Yankees, Padres, Reds, and Nationals. (not in that order) And has only 2159 career at-bats. And he's not a catcher or a pitcher.

Anyone know who I mean?

<u>Close calls:</u>

Hideo Nomo, of all people, played in every division except the AL West.

Also Bob Wickman. Also Damian Jackson. Also Russ Branyan. (damn 4-team division)

Jose Hernandez, missing the AL East.
Paul Abbott, missing the NL West.
Tony Batista, missing the NL Central.
Todd Walker, missing the NL East.
Donnie Sadler, missing the NL East.

Glenallen Hill, missing the NL East. Although he played for the Cubs when they were in the NL East, too...
   66. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:27 PM (#3062602)
Miguel Batista, six divisions. I had no idea he'd played for the Marlins, the Pirates, or the Cubs.
   67. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:29 PM (#3062605)
I found a guy with six divisions. He's played for the Rangers, A's, White Sox, Yankees, Padres, Reds, and Nationals. And has only 2159 career at-bats. And he's not a catcher or a pitcher.
Hmm...I dunno.

Incidentally, Mike Stanton played for every division except the AL Central: Braves, Yankees, Nationals, Reds, Giants, Rangers, Red Sox.
   68. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:30 PM (#3062607)
Anyone know who I mean?


D'Angelo Jimenez
   69. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:34 PM (#3062611)
UPDATE: It's Esteban Loaiza? Nope, he's a pitcher. But he's another 6-division guy - Nats, Pirates, Dodgers + Blue Jays, White Sox, and Athletics (among others - Yankees, Rangers as well).

Oh wait, it's D'Angelo Jimenez!
   70. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 08:39 PM (#3062620)
"Miguel Batista, six divisions. I had no idea he'd played for the Marlins, the Pirates, or the Cubs."

Ah, I remember that. He was our Rule 5 pick like six million years ago. Good times!
   71. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 09:34 PM (#3062676)
Yep, D'Angelo Jimenez. Possibly the only player whose bb-ref ID ends with an apostrophe (jimend'01.shtml)

I'd like to know if any players who played in all six divisions have fewer career ABs (2159) or games played (641) than jimend'01. All the other players mentioned are well-known guys who had long careers.

The full list of these players is something it would be hard to search for, but not impossible, just look for all the possible combinations of six teams (e.g. BAL-MIN-OAK-NYM-CHC-ARI, BAL-MIN-OAK-NYM-CHC-LAD, BAL-MIN-OAK-NYM-CHC-SFG...) in a player's career, during the 6-division era. Though the Brewers switching leagues complicates matters too.
   72. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 09:58 PM (#3062709)
"Yep, D'Angelo Jimenez. Possibly the only player whose bb-ref ID ends with an apostrophe (jimend'01.shtml)"

I just checked, and I'm pretty sure that he is. Jake Flowers could've matched him if he'd gone by his given name (D'Arcy), but he didn't. There are a few active players in the low minors who would match it if they made the majors (D'Marcus Ingram, D'Arby Myers, and D'Andre Vaughn), but none seem like particularly good prospects at this point.
   73. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:01 PM (#3062719)
I'd like to know if any players who played in all six divisions have fewer career ABs (2159) or games played (641) than jimend'01. All the other players mentioned are well-known guys who had long careers.
Yes. It's a player I've never, ever heard of.

Backup catcher Alberto Castillo. 418 games and 1026 ABs from 1995 to 2007, for the Mets, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Yankees, Giants, Royals, Athletics, and Orioles. 11 games in the NL West, 1 in the AL West.
   74. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:04 PM (#3062725)
It's a player I've never, ever heard of.

You didn't miss much.
   75. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM (#3062735)
Getting back to the original question posed in #28, we have Giambi who has 947 with Oakland and 903 with the Yankees. So that's a 1.4881081081081081081081081081081, which I bet is as close as anyone will come to a perfect 1.50 score. Of course, Gimabi is about to ruin that this season, but such is life.
   76. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:17 PM (#3062752)
It would be possible for someone's name to start with O', or L'. Like this guy. (though the basketball-reference algorithm ignores the apostrophe)
   77. jwb Posted: January 29, 2009 at 01:29 AM (#3062855)
A few more, G in Div >= 1500, Tm in Div > 1, Year >= 1994. The Angels are canards.

Garret Anderson
.           ANA    1235
.           CAL     261
.           LAA     553
.           AL  W  2049

Jim Thome
.           CHA     426
.           CLE    1318
.           AL  C  1744

Steve Finley
.           ARI     872
.           COL      43
.           LAN      62
.           SDN     618
.           SFN     139
.           NL  W  1734

Magglio Ordonez
.           CHA    1004
.           DET     553
.           AL  C  1557

Tim Salmon
.           ANA    1048
.           CAL     399
.           LAA      76
.           AL  W  1523 


I remember when Ordonez came up he was living in the same apartment complex as the son of one of my wife's cousins. I think only one of them is worried about making mortgage payments these days. If you take out the team > 1 part, Chipper is only one game behind Jeter.
   78. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 29, 2009 at 02:05 AM (#3062903)
I'd like to know if any players who played in all six divisions have fewer career ABs (2159) or games played (641) than jimend'01. All the other players mentioned are well-known guys who had long careers.
I found our winner. Hold your breath...

Wilson Delgado. 253 games and 543 ABs in his career, with the Giants, Yankees, Royals, Cardinals, Angels and Mets.

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